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posted on 1/6/20

comment by *Prankster 20/20 (U22336)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by *Prankster 20/20 (U22336)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by *Prankster 20/20 (U22336)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by *Prankster 20/20 (U22336)
posted 22 seconds ago
Got to agree with VC and Cinci here.

I lived in the states for 10 plus years leaving in 2000.

My peoples I speak with are saying what these guys are saying.

The message is getting lost with the violence and looting.

Something needs to be done about the suffering of blacks at the hands of the police.

Rioting, looting, burning, and destroying your communities ain’t the answer.
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What is the answer?
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Not thatpeaceful protests/demonstrations planned on mass scale.
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What evidence do you have to back that up, considering g that countless peaceful demonstrations have been carried out over the years and black people are still being murdered.
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I’m talking from a global perspective, people are listening.

What’s your solution
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What is having people around the world listening going to achieve?

I don't have an easy solution to solving systemic racism, which is why I don't try and tell people what the right and wrong ways are of protesting it are. I know that what has already been tried clearly hasn't worked though, or else we wouldn't be in this situation again.
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So burning your own community works for u

I’ll leave you do it, you’re critical of others for suggesting different courses of action when you have nothing to add yourself
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That's exactly what you're doing too criticising actions when all you have to suggest is getting the world to listen

posted on 1/6/20

comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
What evidence do you have to back that up,

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What evidence do you have that rioting looting and arson will make a change?

I ask because this is a repeat of Baltimore a few years back. And nothing changed. The community that got raised to the ground is still boarded up.
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When have I said that i think rioting and looting will make a change?

If I wanted to say that though I could point out that Chauvin wasn't arrested until after the rioting started though.
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That’s the thing. No sensible person here is saying that looting and rioting is the right thing to do. Only that it’s a logical reaction. None of us have the answer to this huge and multi layered problem but when people say ‘rioting and looting won’t change anything’ they appear to be coming at the issue without understanding that when something as evil as this happens as what happened to George Floyd, what do people expect?

Rather than blame the rioters and looters for doing what they’re doing, people need to spend 100% of their energy in debates like this pointing fingers at the system which provokes these things rather than the people pushed into rioting.

posted on 1/6/20

When have I said that i think rioting and looting will make a change?

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So you are condoning it then if you think it won’t make a change, Good to know where you stand.

Personally I don’t condone violence, looting and arson. And I don’t think it will make anything change.

posted on 1/6/20

To say I condone it implies I think it's wrong but accept it anyway, which isn't the case.

posted on 1/6/20

comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by *Prankster 20/20 (U22336)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by *Prankster 20/20 (U22336)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by *Prankster 20/20 (U22336)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by *Prankster 20/20 (U22336)
posted 22 seconds ago
Got to agree with VC and Cinci here.

I lived in the states for 10 plus years leaving in 2000.

My peoples I speak with are saying what these guys are saying.

The message is getting lost with the violence and looting.

Something needs to be done about the suffering of blacks at the hands of the police.

Rioting, looting, burning, and destroying your communities ain’t the answer.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What is the answer?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not thatpeaceful protests/demonstrations planned on mass scale.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What evidence do you have to back that up, considering g that countless peaceful demonstrations have been carried out over the years and black people are still being murdered.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I’m talking from a global perspective, people are listening.

What’s your solution
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What is having people around the world listening going to achieve?

I don't have an easy solution to solving systemic racism, which is why I don't try and tell people what the right and wrong ways are of protesting it are. I know that what has already been tried clearly hasn't worked though, or else we wouldn't be in this situation again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So burning your own community works for u

I’ll leave you do it, you’re critical of others for suggesting different courses of action when you have nothing to add yourself
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That's exactly what you're doing toocriticising actions when all you have to suggest is getting the world to listen
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I’m critical of them destroying their local businesses, own neighbourhoods, and cities.
Through rioting, looting, and burning.

posted on 1/6/20

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posted on 1/6/20

comment by *Prankster 20/20 (U22336)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by *Prankster 20/20 (U22336)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by *Prankster 20/20 (U22336)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by *Prankster 20/20 (U22336)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by *Prankster 20/20 (U22336)
posted 22 seconds ago
Got to agree with VC and Cinci here.

I lived in the states for 10 plus years leaving in 2000.

My peoples I speak with are saying what these guys are saying.

The message is getting lost with the violence and looting.

Something needs to be done about the suffering of blacks at the hands of the police.

Rioting, looting, burning, and destroying your communities ain’t the answer.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What is the answer?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not thatpeaceful protests/demonstrations planned on mass scale.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What evidence do you have to back that up, considering g that countless peaceful demonstrations have been carried out over the years and black people are still being murdered.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I’m talking from a global perspective, people are listening.

What’s your solution
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What is having people around the world listening going to achieve?

I don't have an easy solution to solving systemic racism, which is why I don't try and tell people what the right and wrong ways are of protesting it are. I know that what has already been tried clearly hasn't worked though, or else we wouldn't be in this situation again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So burning your own community works for u

I’ll leave you do it, you’re critical of others for suggesting different courses of action when you have nothing to add yourself
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That's exactly what you're doing toocriticising actions when all you have to suggest is getting the world to listen
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I’m critical of them destroying their local businesses, own neighbourhoods, and cities.
Through rioting, looting, and burning.
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It's not (solely) them... for the umpteenth time, infiltrators!

Secondly... some of those business owners understand what's happening because, whilst their businesses can be rebuilt, lives cannot be brought back. And these are the owners of small businesses whose very livelihoods can be destroyed by events like this, not the Fortune 500 types like Target.

posted on 1/6/20

comment by Maul Person (U12977)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by *Prankster 20/20 (U22336)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by *Prankster 20/20 (U22336)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by *Prankster 20/20 (U22336)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by *Prankster 20/20 (U22336)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by *Prankster 20/20 (U22336)
posted 22 seconds ago
Got to agree with VC and Cinci here.

I lived in the states for 10 plus years leaving in 2000.

My peoples I speak with are saying what these guys are saying.

The message is getting lost with the violence and looting.

Something needs to be done about the suffering of blacks at the hands of the police.

Rioting, looting, burning, and destroying your communities ain’t the answer.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What is the answer?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not thatpeaceful protests/demonstrations planned on mass scale.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What evidence do you have to back that up, considering g that countless peaceful demonstrations have been carried out over the years and black people are still being murdered.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I’m talking from a global perspective, people are listening.

What’s your solution
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What is having people around the world listening going to achieve?

I don't have an easy solution to solving systemic racism, which is why I don't try and tell people what the right and wrong ways are of protesting it are. I know that what has already been tried clearly hasn't worked though, or else we wouldn't be in this situation again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So burning your own community works for u

I’ll leave you do it, you’re critical of others for suggesting different courses of action when you have nothing to add yourself
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That's exactly what you're doing toocriticising actions when all you have to suggest is getting the world to listen
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I’m critical of them destroying their local businesses, own neighbourhoods, and cities.
Through rioting, looting, and burning.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's not (solely) them... for the umpteenth time, infiltrators!

Secondly... some of those business owners understand what's happening because, whilst their businesses can be rebuilt, lives cannot be brought back. And these are the owners of small businesses whose very livelihoods can be destroyed by events like this, not the Fortune 500 types like Target.
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With Covid, these businesses must be suffering anyway, this makes it worse. And like you said, it won't bring anyone back.

posted on 1/6/20

Thanks everyone for your contributions so far

posted on 1/6/20

Apologies I have not participated since early this morning but I have read all the comments since early this morning

posted on 1/6/20

I created this thread to get a feel for people's sentiment.

posted on 1/6/20

My observation: I am tempted to address some of the posts here directly. Completely different from brexit debate as lives are involved, but like the brexit debate some have very strong views that probably will never change.

posted on 1/6/20

local protesters r not doing that.

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Yes some of them are. It isn’t all outsiders. For example in DC last night most of the arrests were people from DC and the DC metro area. One was an outsider and two were undetermined. That was out of 17.

posted on 1/6/20

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posted on 1/6/20

I’m critical of them destroying their local businesses, own neighbourhoods, and cities.
Through rioting, looting, and burning.

.......

Exactly Pranky. This is why I keep going back to the Baltimore riots of a few years back. Whole neighborhoods were destroyed. People lost their businesses.

Some places are still boarded up.

posted on 1/6/20

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posted on 1/6/20

comment by Fourzah (U22366)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by new cdm obsesion - julian garner (U13920)
posted 11 minutes ago
I created this thread to get a feel for people's sentiment.
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where in the US do you live?
(if u don mind me asking)
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In the 51st state.

posted on 1/6/20

comment by Fourzah (U22366)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 13 minutes ago
local protesters r not doing that.

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Yes some of them are. It isn’t all outsiders. For example in DC last night most of the arrests were people from DC and the DC metro area. One was an outsider and two were undetermined. That was out of 17.


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i shuddaput 'generally'
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People getting arrested does not necessarily mean they were all rioting. It's reported that in many places an extraordinarily higher number of "foreigners" is present.

posted on 1/6/20

Fourz

Was it NY State you lived in?

posted on 1/6/20

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 5 minutes ago
I’m critical of them destroying their local businesses, own neighbourhoods, and cities.
Through rioting, looting, and burning.

.......

Exactly Pranky. This is why I keep going back to the Baltimore riots of a few years back. Whole neighborhoods were destroyed. People lost their businesses.

Some places are still boarded up.

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Baltimore has many worse problems than those riots. There's a lot of 'boarding up' in Baltimore, even without the riots.

posted on 1/6/20

comment by Robb Sancho (U22311)
posted 1 hour, 36 minutes ago
Rioting, looting, burning, and destroying your communities ain’t the answer.
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No one is saying it’s the answer

People are saying that it’s the only logical reaction people are having after centuries of abuse and misjustice.
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Out of curiosity would the RAs response in Northern Ireland have been the logical reaction?

posted on 1/6/20

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posted on 1/6/20

comment by Fourzah (U22366)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by new cdm obsesion - julian garner (U13920)
posted 11 minutes ago
I created this thread to get a feel for people's sentiment.
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where in the US do you live?
(if u don mind me asking)
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I don't know if it is a good/bad thing you think i live in the US. I live in the UK

Racism in the UK, is nowhere on the scale as the US. it exists here too as in other places in the world including countries in afrca.

So while some might say it is a US issue I think it is a global issue because US are seen as the custodian of liberty and if it is ok to be racist in the US then imagine the precedent that sets for the rests of the world.

I see fight against racism as the boldest step in fight against all manners of equality. that is why I make an extra effort to educate myself on the issue

posted on 1/6/20

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 8 minutes ago
I’m critical of them destroying their local businesses, own neighbourhoods, and cities.
Through rioting, looting, and burning.

.......

Exactly Pranky. This is why I keep going back to the Baltimore riots of a few years back. Whole neighborhoods were destroyed. People lost their businesses.

Some places are still boarded up.

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Some people just don’t want to here how it is.

I’ve got dem and rep mates in different states who all agree this reaction is madness. That’s whites, blacks, and Hispanics.

posted on 1/6/20

People getting arrested does not necessarily mean they were all rioting.

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It is specifically what the DC ones were arrested for.

They were not arrested for wearing loud shirts or looking at people in a funny way.

Don’t fall for the misguided notion that these protests are all far left and far right out of towners. Whilst there is evidence of infiltration it is still a lot of the locals dong it.

Atlanta was pretty much all local as were the arrest last night and the night before according to the Mayor early today.

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