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Bigger flop: Pogba or Ozil?

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posted on 15/10/20

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Neither have flopped really.

posted on 15/10/20

Up until Ozil frauded that contract it would have been Pogba easily

posted on 15/10/20

comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 25 minutes ago
Neither have flopped really.
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posted on 15/10/20

Nah Ozil. 2 years longer and even Pogba's weak performances in that time. Have shown at least the will to win the game. For instance I can't say I've ever seen him just blatantly let the opposition run past him unchallenged (he might have, just saying I've never seen it).

Yes I'm biased but as the only PL player I've seen, be as lazy/vanishing as he is, for as long as he has been, whilst being paid as much money as he gets. Well that makes Ozil hands down the biggest PL flop of all time for me. Over 150 million quid for a player who didn't/doesn't even care if he wins a game or not and spent 5 years proving it. More money than that if fact, because that's just the dumb 5 year contract wages + fee.

posted on 15/10/20

Pepe

comment by Culer (U22424)

posted on 15/10/20

How was Ozil a flop?? No trophies for 9 years until he arrived. He's let himself down in the last 18 months but he's been a great player for Arsenal.

posted on 15/10/20

Nah Ozil. 2 years longer and even Pogba's weak performances in that time. Have shown at least the will to win the game. For instance I can't say I've ever seen him just blatantly let the opposition run past him unchallenged (he might have, just saying I've never seen it).

so what you are saying is you’ve never seen Pogba play

posted on 15/10/20

comment by Culer (U22424)
posted 20 seconds ago
How was Ozil a flop?? No trophies for 9 years until he arrived. He's let himself down in the last 18 months but he's been a great player for Arsenal.
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He came to Arsenal with massive expectations and didn’t live up to them ergo he is a flop

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comment by Culer (U22424)
posted 26 seconds ago
How was Ozil a flop?? No trophies for 9 years until he arrived. He's let himself down in the last 18 months but he's been a great player for Arsenal.
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You say he's let himself down for 18 months btw.

I say he's let Arsenal FC down for 5 years. ANything we've managed in the last five years has been in spite of Ozil, not because of him.

posted on 15/10/20

Don’t think you can call either a flop but I do feel both could/could’ve been much better with more effort.

Both play in 2nd gear and with Pogba especially you feel he has another few gears to go to.

posted on 15/10/20

comment by Aubameyang FC (U3245)
posted 8 seconds ago
Ozil and great in the same sentence
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What do you expect from someone opening with "How was Ozil a flop?"

comment by Culer (U22424)

posted on 15/10/20

comment by WB2 (Emery'll Get Me Killed) (U8276)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by Culer (U22424)
posted 26 seconds ago
How was Ozil a flop?? No trophies for 9 years until he arrived. He's let himself down in the last 18 months but he's been a great player for Arsenal.
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You say he's let himself down for 18 monthsbtw.

I say he's let Arsenal FC down for 5 years. ANything we've managed in the last five years has been in spite of Ozil, not because of him.
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Absolutely not true. He's a great player.

comment by Culer (U22424)

posted on 15/10/20

comment by No Thomas No Partey (U18355)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Culer (U22424)
posted 20 seconds ago
How was Ozil a flop?? No trophies for 9 years until he arrived. He's let himself down in the last 18 months but he's been a great player for Arsenal.
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He came to Arsenal with massive expectations and didn’t live up to them ergo he is a flop
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Yes he has lived up to expectations

posted on 15/10/20

Don’t think you can call either a flop but I do feel both could/could’ve been much better with more effort.
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Ok but Ozill was worse

posted on 15/10/20

Neither have been good or lived i up to expectations but ozil wins this.

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He had a good 3 months when he joined and was good in 2015

Apart from that he’s been mostly shiiit. People like me made excuses for him all the time when the truth is he never gave a fack

I can’t believe he will have been here for 8 years when he finally does fack off. What a waste of money

posted on 15/10/20

Harry Maguire

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posted on 15/10/20

Both have been big time flops.

Utd can absorb the cost of Pogba flopping and move on. Ozil flopping has completely facked Arsenal over.

Therefore, Ozil wins..... unfortunately ☹

posted on 15/10/20

comment by No Thomas No Partey (U18355)
posted 37 seconds ago
He had a good 3 months when he joined and was good in 2015

Apart from that he’s been mostly shiiit. People like me made excuses for him all the time when the truth is he never gave a fack

I can’t believe he will have been here for 8 years when he finally does fack off. What a waste of money
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I hate him so much because I've felt that mid-end of season 2, when I started really paying attention to how little he does defensively. Seen him as deadweight since and just wanted us to get rid.

posted on 15/10/20

Arsenal hadn't won anything for nine years before Ozil joined. They then won three FA Cups in the following four years. Coincidence?

posted on 15/10/20

comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 4 minutes ago
Harry Maguire
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Is way too good for Spurs

posted on 15/10/20

comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 9 minutes ago
Harry Maguire
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Flop or overrated? Or both?

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