comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
People don't half talk some sh!t.

So if you've been made redundant from a 0 hours contract job due to policy in a gig economy that this Government has purposely nurtured and it takes six weeks for your universal credit to come through then what geniuses?
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Just don't pay your mortgage, phone bill, sky bill, or utility bills that month.

comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
People don't half talk some sh!t.

So if you've been made redundant from a 0 hours contract job due to policy in a gig economy that this Government has purposely nurtured and it takes six weeks for your universal credit to come through then what geniuses?
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Just don't pay your mortgage, phone bill, sky bill, or utility bills that month.
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Mortgage

Theresa May, strong & stable, stole all the food from the children’s table.

It's fvcking mad how Tories can claim £200k in expenses for things like gas, electric and rent PLUS have subsidised food and drink and then vote against free school meals for four months.

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 33 minutes ago
Theresa May, strong & stable, stole all the food from the children’s table.
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Rem Maggie Thatcher, milk snatcher

comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 21 minutes ago
It's fvcking mad how Tories can claim £200k in expenses for things like gas, electric and rent PLUS have subsidised food and drink and then vote against free school meals for four months.
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The true parasites.

comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 33 minutes ago
Theresa May, strong & stable, stole all the food from the children’s table.
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Rem Maggie Thatcher, milk snatcher


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Of course, it’s how I learnt what a Tory was.

comment by deBear (U8633)
posted 2 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by Boom SakaLaca(U3664)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 41 minutes ago

comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 10 minutes ago
This Government is scvm and anyone who voted for them should stand outside on Thursdays at 6pm and say 'sorry' for one minute.
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The only scvm are the irresponsible parents who don't feed their children, all of whom have the benefits to cover it
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I don't either 'side' are scvm.

It's a very emotive subject and not one which should be characterised as 'us' versus 'them'.

It's far too complex an issue.

The UK has a good social welfare structure - perhaps not the best in the world but it's certainly far from the worst.

I applaud Marcus Rashford for bring some attention to the subject, especially when he doesn't need to.

It's clear he has the best of intentions and hopefully his campaign can galvanise some long term, institutionalised change for the better.

I heard from a teacher some time ago that she has to nominate some children in her class for Christmas presents from Barnados if they suspect that they won't receive anything at all.

Coupled with the thought of hungry children, it really upsets me. Particularly as a parent.

I have seen the other side too, knowing that there can be a 'benefit culture' where people can exploit the system to cheat. Whole departments in local authorities have to be set up to counter act this fraud.

I can see the logic in not granting additional free meals to avoid exacerbating the potential over reliance on 'handouts', but given the context, the relatively low cost and the short term nature of the request. They should have absolutely voted to provide those meals.

Then once the dust has settled have some honest and open dialogue about how TF we got ourselves in to this situation and how to avoid a repeat.

This will inevitably mean some uncomfortable truths to be faced on both 'sides'...
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I had to read this twice just to confirm it is actually a balanced opinion.

You don't get many of those on here, as some other posters are helpfully demonstrating.

I wouldn't mind, but it actually harms the chance of doing anything about it generally.

Seeing as everyone is writing poetry...

Tony Blair, with stupid hair
Took us into an illegal war
His fatal flaw.
Gordon Brown, such a clown
There was no elation
When he bankrupted the nation.

Corbyn the terror sympathiser
Are Labour voters any wiser?
Anti-semitism is rife,
Started by Red Ken.
Anyone voting Labour then?

comment by Boom SakaLaca (U3664)
posted 4 minutes ago
Seeing as everyone is writing poetry...

Tony Blair, with stupid hair
Took us into an illegal war
His fatal flaw.
Gordon Brown, such a clown
There was no elation
When he bankrupted the nation.

Corbyn the terror sympathiser
Are Labour voters any wiser?
Anti-semitism is rife,
Started by Red Ken.
Anyone voting Labour then?
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Ooooh. Can I play?

Ole's at the wheel, tell me how good does it feel.
We've got Bruno Fernandes and Fred,
Marcus Rashford makes sure kids get fed.
Do do do do dooooo, do do do do dooooo,
The greatest of English football, we've won it all.

I've always thought free school meals should be obligatory really, especially at primary school level. Kids who don't really know how/what they are feeding them, schools and parents are capable of keeping track of what their kids eat and then that way that's at minimum 1 healthy meal a day they are getting you would assume. Maybe not practically the best idea, but something that should certainly be strived for, especially with kids at that age.

Maybe once you move to secondary school, maybe you can put some the option there of a school meal or kids pay for their own things, as you'd expect a child of 11+ to be capable of feeding themselves and getting into habits of eating meals is something that can help kids to a better diet and to avoid constant unhealthy eating as well.

Admittedly only so much can be done, but there are better ways than what were there and hopefully Rashford's actions is an eye-opener for the government. Glad to see his popularity is being used to good effect really, despite the OP's opinion.

I do also understand the other side of the spectrum regarding taking liberties for what we pay for though as well, but in times like this, it gives every family in the country at least an opportunity to save a few quid a week somewhere, no matter who/where you are from.

It’s an emotive issue, but not a complicated one, feed the f*cking kids.

I wouldn't mind, but it actually harms the chance of doing anything about it generally.

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Nothing will get solved properly with either side of an argument 'digging the trenches'.

An ethos which seems to represent every social justice debate these days

Juts people retreating further and further in to their own intransigence...

comment by Dunne was under Unger and I was over Dunne (U6037)
posted 20 minutes ago

comment by Boom SakaLaca (U3664)
posted 4 minutes ago
Seeing as everyone is writing poetry...

Tony Blair, with stupid hair
Took us into an illegal war
His fatal flaw.
Gordon Brown, such a clown
There was no elation
When he bankrupted the nation.

Corbyn the terror sympathiser
Are Labour voters any wiser?
Anti-semitism is rife,
Started by Red Ken.
Anyone voting Labour then?
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Ooooh. Can I play?

Ole's at the wheel, tell me how good does it feel.
We've got Bruno Fernandes and Fred,
Marcus Rashford makes sure kids get fed.
Do do do do dooooo, do do do do dooooo,
The greatest of English football, we've won it all.

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Top stuff Dunne

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 8 minutes ago
It’s an emotive issue, but not a complicated one, feed the f*cking kids.
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https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=would+somebody+think+of+the+children&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=SgeEPtUoEewL_M%252C_fWDstqAjq4raM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kQHBIA9vNzVnO8rdvRK6CHGWGUcJw&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi23eOx1NLsAhXQSxUIHdL1Co4Q9QF6BAgCEDw#imgrc=SgeEPtUoEewL_M

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 10 minutes ago

It’s an emotive issue, but not a complicated one, feed the f*cking kids.
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Couldn't agree more AFTP.
Exactly what parents should be doing with their benefits.

comment by Dunne was under Unger and I was over Dunne (U6037)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 8 minutes ago
It’s an emotive issue, but not a complicated one, feed the f*cking kids.
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https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=would+somebody+think+of+the+children&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=SgeEPtUoEewL_M%252C_fWDstqAjq4raM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kQHBIA9vNzVnO8rdvRK6CHGWGUcJw&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi23eOx1NLsAhXQSxUIHdL1Co4Q9QF6BAgCEDw#imgrc=SgeEPtUoEewL_M
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pc gone mad my grandad fought and died in both world wars and he said to me the other day all he got as a kid was a piece of bread and some gruel didnt do him any harm kids these days need to grow up

comment by deBear (U8633)
posted 5 minutes ago
I wouldn't mind, but it actually harms the chance of doing anything about it generally.

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Nothing will get solved properly with either side of an argument 'digging the trenches'.

An ethos which seems to represent every social justice debate these days

Juts people retreating further and further in to their own intransigence...


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Just so we’re clear;

One side is happy for kids to go hungry, in winter, during a global pandemic.

And the other side isn’t.

comment by Boom SakaLaca (U3664)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 10 minutes ago

It’s an emotive issue, but not a complicated one, feed the f*cking kids.
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Couldn't agree more AFTP.
Exactly what parents should be doing with their benefits.
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You're obviously pretty clueless about the benefits system, I system I used to work on.

I notice you didn't answer my question before.

I'll add more to it because this is happening everyday.

So if you've been made redundant from a 0 hours contract job due to policy in a gig economy that this Government has purposely nurtured and it takes six weeks for your universal credit to come through.

Your universal credit finally comes through, it's £1100 for everything including your kids but you've already missed one months rent which is £600 and housing benefit only goes to £450 anyway. Your entire £1100 doesnt cover the two months rent and now you can face eviction and no one has even eaten and no bills have been paid.

But yeah, it's the parents fault. You come across as a complete moron tbh.

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by deBear (U8633)
posted 5 minutes ago
I wouldn't mind, but it actually harms the chance of doing anything about it generally.

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Nothing will get solved properly with either side of an argument 'digging the trenches'.

An ethos which seems to represent every social justice debate these days

Juts people retreating further and further in to their own intransigence...


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Just so we’re clear;

One side is happy for kids to go hungry, in winter, during a global pandemic.

And the other side isn’t.
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I believe there were some on the ‘other’ side who wanted the proposal to pass...

comment by *Robbing Hoody - Clandestine Boat Pleb (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Boom SakaLaca(U3664)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 10 minutes ago

It’s an emotive issue, but not a complicated one, feed the f*cking kids.
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Couldn't agree more AFTP.
Exactly what parents should be doing with their benefits.
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You're obviously pretty clueless about the benefits system, I system I used to work on.

I notice you didn't answer my question before.

I'll add more to it because this is happening everyday.

So if you've been made redundant from a 0 hours contract job due to policy in a gig economy that this Government has purposely nurtured and it takes six weeks for your universal credit to come through.

Your universal credit finally comes through, it's £1100 for everything including your kids but you've already missed one months rent which is £600 and housing benefit only goes to £450 anyway. Your entire £1100 doesnt cover the two months rent and now you can face eviction and no one has even eaten and no bills have been paid.

But yeah, it's the parents fault. You come across as a complete moron tbh.
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comment by deBear (U8633)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by deBear (U8633)
posted 5 minutes ago
I wouldn't mind, but it actually harms the chance of doing anything about it generally.

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Nothing will get solved properly with either side of an argument 'digging the trenches'.

An ethos which seems to represent every social justice debate these days

Juts people retreating further and further in to their own intransigence...


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Just so we’re clear;

One side is happy for kids to go hungry, in winter, during a global pandemic.

And the other side isn’t.
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I believe there were some on the ‘other’ side who wanted the proposal to pass...

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Good luck here, mucker.

Mon the Gers

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Just so we're clear no one is happy for kids to go hungry.

I have no answer to Robbing's conundrum, sounds an unlikely/fabricated scenario to me but if it's not a system change is needed for sure.