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comment by St3vie (U11028)

posted on 1/12/20

comment by Marco 2 - a venom high (U21577)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 14 minutes ago
Celtic went from Deila to Rodgers and the impact was monumental, and it was clear to see how much pact having the right manager made

You then went from Rodgers to Lennon...from a guy that nearly won the Premier League with Liverpool, to a bit of an alky who had been sacked by Hibs

The impact.......well, you are seeing it now aren't you

Your board took the 10 for granted because they thought we wouldn't get our act together quickly enough...same thinking was involved when they appointed Deila, cheap option is all that was required
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We didn't go from Rodgers to Lennon. Rodgers pashed off and we needed someone to do a job
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Exactly, do a job...for 6 months, then got someone in that summer to ensure the 10 was won

Same way you've just said if a change is to be made, should be done in the summer

What happened when Rodgers left is almost the equivalent of us giving Murty the job full time after Pedro

posted on 1/12/20

It's weird because on paper Lennon has been backed financially.

All of those signings (barkas aside as I'd never heard of him) seemed decent impact but if anything barkas and Duffy have probably had a negative impact and ajeti Turnbull no real chance.

That's a lot of wasted cash. We know all about that look at Pena and Herrera.

comment by St3vie (U11028)

posted on 1/12/20

comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum are not mine but a fictionalised version loosely based on someone similar to me (U14864)
posted 43 seconds ago
It's weird because on paper Lennon has been backed financially.

All of those signings (barkas aside as I'd never heard of him) seemed decent impact but if anything barkas and Duffy have probably had a negative impact and ajeti Turnbull no real chance.

That's a lot of wasted cash. We know all about that look at Pena and Herrera.
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It's pretty simple mate, the manager isn't good enough...that's it

You think if Pedro had the same group of players Gerrard has now, we'd be playing as well as we are?

posted on 1/12/20

comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum are not mine but a fictionalised version loosely based on someone similar to me (U14864)
posted 43 seconds ago
It's weird because on paper Lennon has been backed financially.

All of those signings (barkas aside as I'd never heard of him) seemed decent impact but if anything barkas and Duffy have probably had a negative impact and ajeti Turnbull no real chance.

That's a lot of wasted cash. We know all about that look at Pena and Herrera.
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It's pretty simple mate, the manager isn't good enough...that's it

You think if Pedro had the same group of players Gerrard has now, we'd be playing as well as we are?
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He'd still be working on his PowerPoint slides.

posted on 1/12/20

I think Marco is right, change the manager now and the options are limited and who is to say his ideas can be put in motion when the team are low on confidence with massive pressure on them to get 10IAR. It would be more of a miracle for a new guy to come in and achieve that than for Lennon to turn it around, knowing the club, players etc.

And it's funny watching your fanbase turn on a Celtic hero if he can't

posted on 1/12/20

i find this odd tbh

at the end of the day, the players don't look remotely interested, it's honestly like they can't be bothered and I've never seen anything like it.

it's as much them as the manager, he didn't do tactics last year and we were fine in the league, the players are the problem.

a new manager would have to come in and add a bit of freshness, but imo it would have to be someone who instantly commands admiration and respect and that's not anyone that we will appoint.

posted on 1/12/20

i don't see anything to say lennon can turn it around, but a fresh face with actual tactical ideas might be able to

posted on 1/12/20

comment by JFK - The Rebel Treble (U8919)
posted 3 minutes ago
i find this odd tbh

at the end of the day, the players don't look remotely interested, it's honestly like they can't be bothered and I've never seen anything like it.

it's as much them as the manager, he didn't do tactics last year and we were fine in the league, the players are the problem.

a new manager would have to come in and add a bit of freshness, but imo it would have to be someone who instantly commands admiration and respect and that's not anyone that we will appoint.
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The players not looking interested surely suggests they aren’t playing for the manager first and foremost.

posted on 1/12/20

comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Marco 2 - a venom high (U21577)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by JFK - The Rebel Treble (U8919)
posted 38 seconds ago
you mentioned this earlier and i asked you to explain to me what you have seen to suggest that celtic will turn it around and go on a fine run of form while rangers performances dip.

when you're ready
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I am sure that the team will gain good form at some point and other teams form will dip. Why? We have players that are internationals and have won loads of medals with us. They have winning mentality but need to get a grip or fac off

If we change manager right now we will not win 10. Stick with Lennon and we have a chance. He has done it before, 2011/2012.

Get a new manager in during summer 2021

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Mate

Your team has pretty much been on a steady decline ever since Lennon took over.

Over a year ago, Cluj scored 4 goals at Celtic Park to pap you out the Champions League under Lennon.

Almost a year ago, we outplayed you in the league cup final, yet somehow managed to lose the game..we then won at Celtic Park, and in the next old firm after that, your team didn't even register a shot on target.

Talking about him turning it round in 11/12 is lunacy for me, 2012 was an extremely turbulent season for Rangers, players were taking pay cuts and all sorts, we had to sell our best player in the January window and then went into administration in the February.

We also had McCoist as manager, a man who went on to prove just how poor a manager he was in the subsequent years down the leagues
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You know Celtic better than me

posted on 1/12/20

I think it was pretty well known that Edouard and Ntcham wanted to move on, possibly a couple of others too i seen Ajer mentioned.

I doubt it was Lennon who said they couldn't be sold, it would have been Lawell wanting more money that meant they were kept. I think they probably know that, know these players have soured the atmosphere and feel partly responsible hence why they aren't sacking him.

posted on 1/12/20

A new man would need to come in and tackle the root of the issue which appears to me anyway to be forcing players to stay that want out.

I think you can manage that situation if it's one or two players when it's 3/4/5 it's much more difficult as it's a group within the squad as that negativity spreads more.


FFS Kris Boyd is on Sky Sports news dressed as an elf saying Lennon should stay

comment by Ghod#18 (U9390)

posted on 1/12/20

to anyone who thinks we're over reacting and are self entitled etc read this

https://twitter.com/gigpod/status/1333751914606039041

posted on 1/12/20

Tweet from Alison Conroy "Don’t be expecting any big announcements come from Celtic" no śhìť sherlock

posted on 1/12/20

comment by Ghod#18 (U9390)
posted 4 minutes ago
to anyone who thinks we're over reacting and are self entitled etc read this

https://twitter.com/gigpod/status/1333751914606039041
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well that guys just a defeatist.

KTF

posted on 1/12/20

comment by Ghod#18 (U9390)
posted 7 minutes ago
to anyone who thinks we're over reacting and are self entitled etc read this

https://twitter.com/gigpod/status/1333751914606039041
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Some of those are pathetic.

Two instagram stories
A tick tock
A podcaster not invited to a conference
A transfer target not signed.
A look by Ntcham


FFS the banter years would have put you 6 feet under

posted on 1/12/20

comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by Marco 2 - a venom high (U21577)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 14 minutes ago
Celtic went from Deila to Rodgers and the impact was monumental, and it was clear to see how much pact having the right manager made

You then went from Rodgers to Lennon...from a guy that nearly won the Premier League with Liverpool, to a bit of an alky who had been sacked by Hibs

The impact.......well, you are seeing it now aren't you

Your board took the 10 for granted because they thought we wouldn't get our act together quickly enough...same thinking was involved when they appointed Deila, cheap option is all that was required
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We didn't go from Rodgers to Lennon. Rodgers pashed off and we needed someone to do a job
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Exactly, do a job...for 6 months, then got someone in that summer to ensure the 10 was won

Same way you've just said if a change is to be made, should be done in the summer

What happened when Rodgers left is almost the equivalent of us giving Murty the job full time after Pedro
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No you pushed Pedro out

posted on 1/12/20

comment by Ghod#18 (U9390)
posted 3 hours, 47 minutes ago
comment by rocknrollbhoy (U10410)
posted 2 minutes ago

I know the players are to blame for this period too but my god most of them must be cringing aswell and desperate for him to go, thinking how much worse can it get?


the lack of effort from the players won't be forgotten about, none of this will be forgotten about

I never seen the game on Sunday but I've heard Edouard was nothing short of a disgrace
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Eddie was one of most players who were disinterested in Sunday’s game. No energy, no attempts to take players on, CBA attitude

posted on 1/12/20

comment by HB Fash - Never doubted Stevie G as manager (U21935)
posted 30 minutes ago
I think Marco is right, change the manager now and the options are limited and who is to say his ideas can be put in motion when the team are low on confidence with massive pressure on them to get 10IAR. It would be more of a miracle for a new guy to come in and achieve that than for Lennon to turn it around, knowing the club, players etc.

And it's funny watching your fanbase turn on a Celtic hero if he can't
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Thank you

Just thinking, was JFK at Celtic Park Sunday night?

posted on 1/12/20

comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum... (U14864)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum are not mine but a fictionalised version loosely based on someone similar to me (U14864)
posted 43 seconds ago
It's weird because on paper Lennon has been backed financially.

All of those signings (barkas aside as I'd never heard of him) seemed decent impact but if anything barkas and Duffy have probably had a negative impact and ajeti Turnbull no real chance.

That's a lot of wasted cash. We know all about that look at Pena and Herrera.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

It's pretty simple mate, the manager isn't good enough...that's it

You think if Pedro had the same group of players Gerrard has now, we'd be playing as well as we are?
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He'd still be working on his PowerPoint slides.
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And perhaps a bit of topiary

posted on 1/12/20

comment by JFK - The Rebel Treble (U8919)
posted 1 hour ago
so KTF then aye?
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You silly boy
Label people when you have a poor argument

posted on 1/12/20

Lennon and the board should have agreed that he guides the team to 9IAR then leaves a hero.

But he chose to stay and risks everything.

It's all easy with hindsight though.

posted on 1/12/20

comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum are not mine but a fictionalised version loosely based on someone similar to me (U14864)
posted 43 seconds ago
It's weird because on paper Lennon has been backed financially.

All of those signings (barkas aside as I'd never heard of him) seemed decent impact but if anything barkas and Duffy have probably had a negative impact and ajeti Turnbull no real chance.

That's a lot of wasted cash. We know all about that look at Pena and Herrera.
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It's pretty simple mate, the manager isn't good enough...that's it

You think if Pedro had the same group of players Gerrard has now, we'd be playing as well as we are?
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Have a look at Lennon's record

posted on 1/12/20

Oh my, another day and another long thread to entertain me later...so very very pleasing....

posted on 1/12/20

comment by Marco 2 - a venom high (U21577)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by super phoenix rangers - comments on this forum are not mine but a fictionalised version loosely based on someone similar to me (U14864)
posted 43 seconds ago
It's weird because on paper Lennon has been backed financially.

All of those signings (barkas aside as I'd never heard of him) seemed decent impact but if anything barkas and Duffy have probably had a negative impact and ajeti Turnbull no real chance.

That's a lot of wasted cash. We know all about that look at Pena and Herrera.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

It's pretty simple mate, the manager isn't good enough...that's it

You think if Pedro had the same group of players Gerrard has now, we'd be playing as well as we are?
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Have a look at Lennon's record
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You have a bit of form right now, enjoy it

comment by lauders (U9757)

posted on 1/12/20

comment by Marco 2 - a venom high (U21577)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by JFK - The Rebel Treble (U8919)
posted 1 hour ago
so KTF then aye?
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You silly boy
Label people when you have a poor argument
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Good for you mate. No point taking it from them. Get behind the team like a real fan

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