Walcott is such a simpleton ffs. What is the point if he’s agreeing absolute morons in there

comment by T-BAD (U11806)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 7 seconds ago
It is a red. Saliba just came back from the International break with his head scrambled. Probably read too many reports from his France performance.
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No need to grab. In the past he would trust himself to get back.

comment by Bats Uncensored (U18355)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
Won’t be surprised if we approach this like Spurs/City and let them have the ball
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Bats knew AGAIN.

Put on Martinelli, take off Trossard. Route one to Havertz and try get a corner.

comment by You Can't Buy Class ¯\_/^v^\_/¯ (U12019)
posted 1 minute ago
Would rather a 1 on 1 with the GK and potentially down a goal than down to 10.

S|-|ite from Trossard and stoopid from Saliba.

Was it actually a clear and obvious error to give a yellow card though? Basically on the halfway line.
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Yes. It was a "clear and obvious error" not to issue a red for what was clearly a red card offense. The ref probably needed to review the positioning of other Arsenal players to see if there was any cover for Saliba. If this was reversed and in our favour, we'd all be fully on board with the decision.

comment by 50 No longer trusting the process (U1147)
posted 1 minute ago
Walcott is such a simpleton ffs. What is the point if he’s agreeingabsolute morons in there
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It's pretty obvious that Sky aren't allowed to disagree with refs. It honestly might be contractual at this point.

Would keep Trossard on, merino off martinelli on

comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by T-BAD (U11806)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 7 seconds ago
It is a red. Saliba just came back from the International break with his head scrambled. Probably read too many reports from his France performance.
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No need to grab. In the past he would trust himself to get back.
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I think to put that on the France stuff is creating a lot of narrative. I think he just instinctively had a little pull thinking it'd be inconsequential cos he'd have it covered anyway.

comment by Bats Uncensored (U18355)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Bats Uncensored (U18355)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
Won’t be surprised if we approach this like Spurs/City and let them have the ball
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Bats knew AGAIN.
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We seem to approach every away game, regardless of the opposition, with this defensive style now

comment by T-BAD (U11806)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by T-BAD (U11806)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 7 seconds ago
It is a red. Saliba just came back from the International break with his head scrambled. Probably read too many reports from his France performance.
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No need to grab. In the past he would trust himself to get back.
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I think to put that on the France stuff is creating a lot of narrative. I think he just instinctively had a little pull thinking it'd be inconsequential cos he'd have it covered anyway.
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The mistake he made for France was just that. He tried to get back was a bit slow, slipped and gave away a pen.

comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by You Can't Buy Class ¯\_/^v^\_/¯ (U12019)
posted 1 minute ago
Would rather a 1 on 1 with the GK and potentially down a goal than down to 10.

S|-|ite from Trossard and stoopid from Saliba.

Was it actually a clear and obvious error to give a yellow card though? Basically on the halfway line.
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Yes. It was a "clear and obvious error" not to issue a red for what was clearly a red card offense. The ref probably needed to review the positioning of other Arsenal players to see if there was any cover for Saliba. If this was reversed and in our favour, we'd all be fully on board with the decision.

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It wasn't clear and obvious, it is a subjective call and there was enough in it to justify a yellow as there was for a red. The on-field call was made with clear view of the incident and there is a very high bar for VAR intervention.
If the ref had given red it should have stood, if he gave a yellow it should have stood.

comment by HEY, WE'RE BACK (U22866)
posted 3 minutes ago
Same ref, told Gibbs-White he clearly got the ball - he made the shape of the ball with his hands

The 4th official then whispered in his ear, he didn’t even check the screen - preceded to get his Red out and send him off

Diabolical

The 4th Official SHOULD NOT be allowed to intervene and change the refs mind, especially when the ref saw the incident for himself and made the call


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Whatever happened with Gibbs White or whoever is completely irrelevant to the fact that everything was textbook and spot on in the decision to send Saliba off. We have no one to blame but ourselves. Tired of this silly persecution complex.

Do we have a carling cup game before Liverpool?

comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by T-BAD (U11806)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by T-BAD (U11806)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 7 seconds ago
It is a red. Saliba just came back from the International break with his head scrambled. Probably read too many reports from his France performance.
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What
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No need to grab. In the past he would trust himself to get back.
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I think to put that on the France stuff is creating a lot of narrative. I think he just instinctively had a little pull thinking it'd be inconsequential cos he'd have it covered anyway.
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The mistake he made for France was just that. He tried to get back was a bit slow, slipped and gave away a pen.
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I think they were completely different. Slipping in the pen area in a way that's not your fault vs making a foul on the halfway line?

comment by Passion Power - Make 1984 fiction again(U8398) (U8398)
posted 37 seconds ago
Do we have a carling cup game before Liverpool?
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No

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by You Can't Buy Class ¯\_/^v^\_/¯ (U12019)
posted 1 minute ago
Would rather a 1 on 1 with the GK and potentially down a goal than down to 10.

S|-|ite from Trossard and stoopid from Saliba.

Was it actually a clear and obvious error to give a yellow card though? Basically on the halfway line.
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Yes. It was a "clear and obvious error" not to issue a red for what was clearly a red card offense. The ref probably needed to review the positioning of other Arsenal players to see if there was any cover for Saliba. If this was reversed and in our favour, we'd all be fully on board with the decision.

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It wasn't clear and obvious, it is a subjective call and there was enough in it to justify a yellow as there was for a red. The on-field call was made with clear view of the incident and there is a very high bar for VAR intervention.
If the ref had given red it should have stood, if he gave a yellow it should have stood.
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As usual DJ thinking similar to me.

The Sky presenter even mentioned Ben White coming across and the trajectory of the ball heading towards him.

WHAT A MISS!!!

Bournemouth should be leading

Phew

comment by T-BAD (U11806)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by T-BAD (U11806)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by T-BAD (U11806)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 7 seconds ago
It is a red. Saliba just came back from the International break with his head scrambled. Probably read too many reports from his France performance.
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What
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No need to grab. In the past he would trust himself to get back.
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I think to put that on the France stuff is creating a lot of narrative. I think he just instinctively had a little pull thinking it'd be inconsequential cos he'd have it covered anyway.
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The mistake he made for France was just that. He tried to get back was a bit slow, slipped and gave away a pen.
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I think they were completely different. Slipping in the pen area in a way that's not your fault vs making a foul on the halfway line?
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Saliba has this way of defending where he allows players to run of him and then catches up. Ever since he has started for France I think he is getting different coaching. That screws up youngsters especially after mistakes.

Hopefully that missed chance will cost them dearly!

comment by Snooker_49 (U10665)
posted 20 seconds ago
Hopefully that missed chance will cost them dearly!
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Kiwior at the back. They will definitely have another chance

I don't think a week with Deschamp will undo months with Arteta

Merino is completely off pace. Declan Rice needs to stay back to cover if he loses possession.

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by You Can't Buy Class ¯\_/^v^\_/¯ (U12019)
posted 1 minute ago
Would rather a 1 on 1 with the GK and potentially down a goal than down to 10.

S|-|ite from Trossard and stoopid from Saliba.

Was it actually a clear and obvious error to give a yellow card though? Basically on the halfway line.
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Yes. It was a "clear and obvious error" not to issue a red for what was clearly a red card offense. The ref probably needed to review the positioning of other Arsenal players to see if there was any cover for Saliba. If this was reversed and in our favour, we'd all be fully on board with the decision.

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It wasn't clear and obvious, it is a subjective call and there was enough in it to justify a yellow as there was for a red. The on-field call was made with clear view of the incident and there is a very high bar for VAR intervention.
If the ref had given red it should have stood, if he gave a yellow it should have stood.
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Except only offside calls for you count as "clear and obvious", I'd say the ref issuing a yellow in that case was a "clear and obvious error". His review falls well within the defined parameters of "clear and obvious" errors.