comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 38 minutes ago
I think when people find so little or no joy in supporting their club it is hard for others to accept their constant negativity.
Both Billy & Don make good points at times but it is an ocean of negative comments which don't just ignore positive elements of the club/owners, they dismiss them entirely as luck or means to trouser profits etc. their total criticism of all things Spurs undermines the credibility their more valid criticisms.
they take the approach that a LFC mate of mine takes in assessing Kane. He doesn't rate him as he hasn't got pace. Yes, a valid criticism but only one aspect of his makeup. He wouldnt have him at LFC - his opinion but the basis of which is narrow and lacking proper consideration.
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I’ve always found this forum a bit unique in that there is a bit more evenly distributed spread of opinions about the owners, but generally from what I come across on Twitter and some of the YouTube stuff I watch I do think there is quite a prevelant anti-ENIC sentiment out there now and since the whole Mourinho debacle and then the Super League and the absolute mess of the last managerial appointment it does seem to have gotten significant worse so I don’t think that the likes of the two posters you mention are alone in that.
Like with yourself I actually find you to be a pretty measured and intelligent poster, but could also understand why someone would label you as overly positive, or blindly loyal to the owners, whereas that’s not the case, you just offer opinions as you see things.
I’m not comfortable with supporters being labelled in certain ways as it seems to suggest that their views are slightly disingenuous and driven by an agenda rather than the sincerity of their opinions.
I thought our last performance was good. Entertaining and a good result. It gave me joy and hope.
comment by ABC Jelly (U22709)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 38 minutes ago
I think when people find so little or no joy in supporting their club it is hard for others to accept their constant negativity.
Both Billy & Don make good points at times but it is an ocean of negative comments which don't just ignore positive elements of the club/owners, they dismiss them entirely as luck or means to trouser profits etc. their total criticism of all things Spurs undermines the credibility their more valid criticisms.
they take the approach that a LFC mate of mine takes in assessing Kane. He doesn't rate him as he hasn't got pace. Yes, a valid criticism but only one aspect of his makeup. He wouldnt have him at LFC - his opinion but the basis of which is narrow and lacking proper consideration.
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I’ve always found this forum a bit unique in that there is a bit more evenly distributed spread of opinions about the owners, but generally from what I come across on Twitter and some of the YouTube stuff I watch I do think there is quite a prevelant anti-ENIC sentiment out there now and since the whole Mourinho debacle and then the Super League and the absolute mess of the last managerial appointment it does seem to have gotten significant worse so I don’t think that the likes of the two posters you mention are alone in that.
Like with yourself I actually find you to be a pretty measured and intelligent poster, but could also understand why someone would label you as overly positive, or blindly loyal to the owners, whereas that’s not the case, you just offer opinions as you see things.
I’m not comfortable with supporters being labelled in certain ways as it seems to suggest that their views are slightly disingenuous and driven by an agenda rather than the sincerity of their opinions.
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As a wise man once said, Form your views on life from twitter and you too will become an idiot.
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 2 hours, 43 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 5 minutes ago
I like you Devonshire, but Jesus Christ you are a Levy and ENIC sympathiser. How can you be happy with the club failing to sign an adequate back up ? Meaning we are left with a 17 year old rookie as our only sub striker. How the hell in any shape or form is that acceptable for any club let alone a top club.
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Its not acceptable, but not signing a backup striker isn't a reason to demand a change in ownership .....
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The last 20 years of misery and extortionate tickets prices is a reason to demand a change of ownership though
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by ABC Jelly (U22709)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 38 minutes ago
I think when people find so little or no joy in supporting their club it is hard for others to accept their constant negativity.
Both Billy & Don make good points at times but it is an ocean of negative comments which don't just ignore positive elements of the club/owners, they dismiss them entirely as luck or means to trouser profits etc. their total criticism of all things Spurs undermines the credibility their more valid criticisms.
they take the approach that a LFC mate of mine takes in assessing Kane. He doesn't rate him as he hasn't got pace. Yes, a valid criticism but only one aspect of his makeup. He wouldnt have him at LFC - his opinion but the basis of which is narrow and lacking proper consideration.
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I’ve always found this forum a bit unique in that there is a bit more evenly distributed spread of opinions about the owners, but generally from what I come across on Twitter and some of the YouTube stuff I watch I do think there is quite a prevelant anti-ENIC sentiment out there now and since the whole Mourinho debacle and then the Super League and the absolute mess of the last managerial appointment it does seem to have gotten significant worse so I don’t think that the likes of the two posters you mention are alone in that.
Like with yourself I actually find you to be a pretty measured and intelligent poster, but could also understand why someone would label you as overly positive, or blindly loyal to the owners, whereas that’s not the case, you just offer opinions as you see things.
I’m not comfortable with supporters being labelled in certain ways as it seems to suggest that their views are slightly disingenuous and driven by an agenda rather than the sincerity of their opinions.
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As a wise man once said, Form your views on life from twitter and you too will become an idiot.
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A wise man could say the same thing about online football forums.
We do not need a back up striker, what we need is another striker to rival Kane for a starting place, to play along side Kane or instead of Kane. So that performances do not suffer when one or the other is rested, injured or out of form.
Unfortunately ENIC balk at the asking prices and we are left with a short squad time and time again.
It is time these Mickey Mouse owners moved on.
It is time these Mickey Mouse owners moved on.
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the way you say it is as if its as easy as moving a player on (which we have found is not as easy as it seems anyway). change of ownership is probably just about the riskiest thing that can happen to a football club.
I will ask you the same thing I have asked others.... can you name even one buyer? even one?
when we want players out, we have an idea of who we want in. when we want a manager out, every fan has an idea who they might want in. as for an owner, people want ENIC out, and I have heard not one single person ever give me the name of someone they want to come and buy the club.
I am all for ENIC out if they are to be replaced with someone willing to inject cash into the club, makes non stop sensible decisions, doesn't neglect the academy due to purchase power, and there is little if any risk of them being a total maverick and therefore risking the future of the club.
I would be interested to know peoples shortlist for the above would-be owners.
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
It is time these Mickey Mouse owners moved on.
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the way you say it is as if its as easy as moving a player on (which we have found is not as easy as it seems anyway). change of ownership is probably just about the riskiest thing that can happen to a football club.
I will ask you the same thing I have asked others.... can you name even one buyer? even one?
when we want players out, we have an idea of who we want in. when we want a manager out, every fan has an idea who they might want in. as for an owner, people want ENIC out, and I have heard not one single person ever give me the name of someone they want to come and buy the club.
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You always say this chronic. Owners are not football players, so why would any of us have an individual of who want ? But, to answer your question. Owners like Leicester who are willing to spend money to win trophies, hence the team they have built up which have won the league and Fa cup. Ok, the league was a one off, but the point being, the Leicester owners want too push the club forward to win more honours. Our bunch of property developers are more interested in lady gaga concerts and winning the net spend trophy every season. In other words, we want ambitious owners who put on field matters first, off field matters second, which is the complete opposite of ENIC and Levy where on field matters is always secondary. That should answer your question pretty clearly mate
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 15 hours, 41 minutes ago
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
It is time these Mickey Mouse owners moved on.
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the way you say it is as if its as easy as moving a player on (which we have found is not as easy as it seems anyway). change of ownership is probably just about the riskiest thing that can happen to a football club.
I will ask you the same thing I have asked others.... can you name even one buyer? even one?
when we want players out, we have an idea of who we want in. when we want a manager out, every fan has an idea who they might want in. as for an owner, people want ENIC out, and I have heard not one single person ever give me the name of someone they want to come and buy the club.
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You always say this chronic. Owners are not football players, so why would any of us have an individual of who want ? But, to answer your question. Owners like Leicester who are willing to spend money to win trophies, hence the team they have built up which have won the league and Fa cup. Ok, the league was a one off, but the point being, the Leicester owners want too push the club forward to win more honours. Our bunch of property developers are more interested in lady gaga concerts and winning the net spend trophy every season. In other words, we want ambitious owners who put on field matters first, off field matters second, which is the complete opposite of ENIC and Levy where on field matters is always secondary. That should answer your question pretty clearly mate
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You just dont get it do you.
On the one hand its "we want owners that spend". Then in the same breath you criticise the owners for pursuing for seeking new revenue streams through the Stadium.
What would you prefer....the literal 10s of millions the stadium will generate from Lady Gaga, Guns& Rose, AJ, NFL etc....or nothing.
If these uses pay the interest on the stadium then everything else we earn is gravy.
The focus is rightly on earning as much money as possible so we can spend as much money as possible. Or are you just another sugar daddy day dreamer expecting our owners to play fantasy football like the oil clubs?
Chronic retaining his place in the Spurs numpty Galactica
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 15 hours, 41 minutes ago
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
It is time these Mickey Mouse owners moved on.
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the way you say it is as if its as easy as moving a player on (which we have found is not as easy as it seems anyway). change of ownership is probably just about the riskiest thing that can happen to a football club.
I will ask you the same thing I have asked others.... can you name even one buyer? even one?
when we want players out, we have an idea of who we want in. when we want a manager out, every fan has an idea who they might want in. as for an owner, people want ENIC out, and I have heard not one single person ever give me the name of someone they want to come and buy the club.
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You always say this chronic. Owners are not football players, so why would any of us have an individual of who want ? But, to answer your question. Owners like Leicester who are willing to spend money to win trophies, hence the team they have built up which have won the league and Fa cup. Ok, the league was a one off, but the point being, the Leicester owners want too push the club forward to win more honours. Our bunch of property developers are more interested in lady gaga concerts and winning the net spend trophy every season. In other words, we want ambitious owners who put on field matters first, off field matters second, which is the complete opposite of ENIC and Levy where on field matters is always secondary. That should answer your question pretty clearly mate
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You just dont get it do you.
On the one hand its "we want owners that spend". Then in the same breath you criticise the owners for pursuing for seeking new revenue streams through the Stadium.
What would you prefer....the literal 10s of millions the stadium will generate from Lady Gaga, Guns& Rose, AJ, NFL etc....or nothing.
If these uses pay the interest on the stadium then everything else we earn is gravy.
The focus is rightly on earning as much money as possible so we can spend as much money as possible. Or are you just another sugar daddy day dreamer expecting our owners to play fantasy football like the oil clubs?
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Yes I do “get it” Devonshire. On what planet do you think our owners and Levy will spend big with the revenue we got ? Please tell me. Show me any evidence under this regime, we will go out and splash what is needed to build a successful team. Levy has already said in an interview he doesn’t believe spending big means success. That’s his mentality. Trying to build success on a lemonade budget. I think you need to get your head out the sand mate. This stadium and revenue streams makes no difference. Levy will still be Levy and ENIC will still be ENIC. They don’t harbour the level of ambition other top clubs do regardless of our stadium. Stop trying to make excuses for them ffs.
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 16 hours, 27 minutes ago
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
It is time these Mickey Mouse owners moved on.
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the way you say it is as if its as easy as moving a player on (which we have found is not as easy as it seems anyway). change of ownership is probably just about the riskiest thing that can happen to a football club.
I will ask you the same thing I have asked others.... can you name even one buyer? even one?
when we want players out, we have an idea of who we want in. when we want a manager out, every fan has an idea who they might want in. as for an owner, people want ENIC out, and I have heard not one single person ever give me the name of someone they want to come and buy the club.
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You always say this chronic. Owners are not football players, so why would any of us have an individual of who want ? But, to answer your question. Owners like Leicester who are willing to spend money to win trophies, hence the team they have built up which have won the league and Fa cup. Ok, the league was a one off, but the point being, the Leicester owners want too push the club forward to win more honours. Our bunch of property developers are more interested in lady gaga concerts and winning the net spend trophy every season. In other words, we want ambitious owners who put on field matters first, off field matters second, which is the complete opposite of ENIC and Levy where on field matters is always secondary. That should answer your question pretty clearly mate
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so basically, you didnt answer the question, because you dont know. exactly my point. when you can put forward a sensible candidate to buy spurs then I will join you on your ENIC out crusade.
comment by FC Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 38 minutes ago
Chronic retaining his place in the Spurs numpty Galactica
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this probably sounded really good when you thought it up in your head.
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by FC Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 38 minutes ago
Chronic retaining his place in the Spurs numpty Galactica
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this probably sounded really good when you thought it up in your head.
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Still looks good in print as well son
You sizzle Ace morespurs Sandy and latterly chocolate strikefish are a class back five... No other club on this site has this sort of talent pool
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 16 hours, 27 minutes ago
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
It is time these Mickey Mouse owners moved on.
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the way you say it is as if its as easy as moving a player on (which we have found is not as easy as it seems anyway). change of ownership is probably just about the riskiest thing that can happen to a football club.
I will ask you the same thing I have asked others.... can you name even one buyer? even one?
when we want players out, we have an idea of who we want in. when we want a manager out, every fan has an idea who they might want in. as for an owner, people want ENIC out, and I have heard not one single person ever give me the name of someone they want to come and buy the club.
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You always say this chronic. Owners are not football players, so why would any of us have an individual of who want ? But, to answer your question. Owners like Leicester who are willing to spend money to win trophies, hence the team they have built up which have won the league and Fa cup. Ok, the league was a one off, but the point being, the Leicester owners want too push the club forward to win more honours. Our bunch of property developers are more interested in lady gaga concerts and winning the net spend trophy every season. In other words, we want ambitious owners who put on field matters first, off field matters second, which is the complete opposite of ENIC and Levy where on field matters is always secondary. That should answer your question pretty clearly mate
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so basically, you didnt answer the question, because you dont know. exactly my point. when you can put forward a sensible candidate to buy spurs then I will join you on your ENIC out crusade.
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I answered you clearly son. Stop trying to get answers that are impossible to get. I told you exactly what I want from my owners, end of story. You carry on with your blind loyalty to ENIC and Levy, it’s absolutely ridiculous mate
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 15 hours, 41 minutes ago
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
It is time these Mickey Mouse owners moved on.
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the way you say it is as if its as easy as moving a player on (which we have found is not as easy as it seems anyway). change of ownership is probably just about the riskiest thing that can happen to a football club.
I will ask you the same thing I have asked others.... can you name even one buyer? even one?
when we want players out, we have an idea of who we want in. when we want a manager out, every fan has an idea who they might want in. as for an owner, people want ENIC out, and I have heard not one single person ever give me the name of someone they want to come and buy the club.
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You always say this chronic. Owners are not football players, so why would any of us have an individual of who want ? But, to answer your question. Owners like Leicester who are willing to spend money to win trophies, hence the team they have built up which have won the league and Fa cup. Ok, the league was a one off, but the point being, the Leicester owners want too push the club forward to win more honours. Our bunch of property developers are more interested in lady gaga concerts and winning the net spend trophy every season. In other words, we want ambitious owners who put on field matters first, off field matters second, which is the complete opposite of ENIC and Levy where on field matters is always secondary. That should answer your question pretty clearly mate
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You just dont get it do you.
On the one hand its "we want owners that spend". Then in the same breath you criticise the owners for pursuing for seeking new revenue streams through the Stadium.
What would you prefer....the literal 10s of millions the stadium will generate from Lady Gaga, Guns& Rose, AJ, NFL etc....or nothing.
If these uses pay the interest on the stadium then everything else we earn is gravy.
The focus is rightly on earning as much money as possible so we can spend as much money as possible. Or are you just another sugar daddy day dreamer expecting our owners to play fantasy football like the oil clubs?
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exactly. Don you have to surely be able to see what Devonshire is saying here..... you are criticising the owners for doing non football things to raise money, because they do not spend enough on the team, but the whole point that they are doing the other stuff is to generate money to spend on the team.....
and we have seen this through an increase in wages and spending over the last couple of years. COVID hugely set us back. probably came at the worst time for us as we had just built the stadium, but now that events are back I would expect the next year or two to have increased funds available. If we do not increase our spending to match our revenue, then you might start to have a point.
If you hadnt noticed, our Jewish and Arabic friends are not exactly the best of buddies, and dont really do business with each other, so the idea of ENIC selling the club to some kind of middle eastern oil baron is pretty unlikely.
If we sold ENIC, it would probably be bought buy another consortium, and run exactly the same way, simply because the majority of football clubs in the country operate on this basis, and only a handful have owners who put in serious cash injections.
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 16 hours, 27 minutes ago
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
It is time these Mickey Mouse owners moved on.
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the way you say it is as if its as easy as moving a player on (which we have found is not as easy as it seems anyway). change of ownership is probably just about the riskiest thing that can happen to a football club.
I will ask you the same thing I have asked others.... can you name even one buyer? even one?
when we want players out, we have an idea of who we want in. when we want a manager out, every fan has an idea who they might want in. as for an owner, people want ENIC out, and I have heard not one single person ever give me the name of someone they want to come and buy the club.
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You always say this chronic. Owners are not football players, so why would any of us have an individual of who want ? But, to answer your question. Owners like Leicester who are willing to spend money to win trophies, hence the team they have built up which have won the league and Fa cup. Ok, the league was a one off, but the point being, the Leicester owners want too push the club forward to win more honours. Our bunch of property developers are more interested in lady gaga concerts and winning the net spend trophy every season. In other words, we want ambitious owners who put on field matters first, off field matters second, which is the complete opposite of ENIC and Levy where on field matters is always secondary. That should answer your question pretty clearly mate
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so basically, you didnt answer the question, because you dont know. exactly my point. when you can put forward a sensible candidate to buy spurs then I will join you on your ENIC out crusade.
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I answered you clearly son. Stop trying to get answers that are impossible to get. I told you exactly what I want from my owners, end of story. You carry on with your blind loyalty to ENIC and Levy, it’s absolutely ridiculous mate
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I do not have any blind loyalty to ENIC. I already said that if the ideal owner came along then I would be happy for them to sell.
I am making pretty objective statements... just comparing how it was then to how it was now, and pointing out the good things that they have done (which there are many), and also the bad things they have done (of which there are also several). basically they are not perfect, but there are far far worse owners out there.
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 3 hours, 37 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 15 hours, 41 minutes ago
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
It is time these Mickey Mouse owners moved on.
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the way you say it is as if its as easy as moving a player on (which we have found is not as easy as it seems anyway). change of ownership is probably just about the riskiest thing that can happen to a football club.
I will ask you the same thing I have asked others.... can you name even one buyer? even one?
when we want players out, we have an idea of who we want in. when we want a manager out, every fan has an idea who they might want in. as for an owner, people want ENIC out, and I have heard not one single person ever give me the name of someone they want to come and buy the club.
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You always say this chronic. Owners are not football players, so why would any of us have an individual of who want ? But, to answer your question. Owners like Leicester who are willing to spend money to win trophies, hence the team they have built up which have won the league and Fa cup. Ok, the league was a one off, but the point being, the Leicester owners want too push the club forward to win more honours. Our bunch of property developers are more interested in lady gaga concerts and winning the net spend trophy every season. In other words, we want ambitious owners who put on field matters first, off field matters second, which is the complete opposite of ENIC and Levy where on field matters is always secondary. That should answer your question pretty clearly mate
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You just dont get it do you.
On the one hand its "we want owners that spend". Then in the same breath you criticise the owners for pursuing for seeking new revenue streams through the Stadium.
What would you prefer....the literal 10s of millions the stadium will generate from Lady Gaga, Guns& Rose, AJ, NFL etc....or nothing.
If these uses pay the interest on the stadium then everything else we earn is gravy.
The focus is rightly on earning as much money as possible so we can spend as much money as possible. Or are you just another sugar daddy day dreamer expecting our owners to play fantasy football like the oil clubs?
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Yes I do “get it” Devonshire. On what planet do you think our owners and Levy will spend big with the revenue we got ? Please tell me. Show me any evidence under this regime, we will go out and splash what is needed to build a successful team. Levy has already said in an interview he doesn’t believe spending big means success. That’s his mentality. Trying to build success on a lemonade budget. I think you need to get your head out the sand mate. This stadium and revenue streams makes no difference. Levy will still be Levy and ENIC will still be ENIC. They don’t harbour the level of ambition other top clubs do regardless of our stadium. Stop trying to make excuses for them ffs.
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Is not building a massive stadium to boost our revenues to enable greater spending ambition?
If we manage in the future to gain a stadium sponsor and or an NFL franchise, bringing in 10s of millions more, is this not ambition?
Here is a link to Spurs transfer spend. Its a pretty reliable source of info. Have a look at our transfer spending, net and gross before and after the new stadium in 2019.
Look at it. read it. and then tell me how the new stadium has not boosted our spending, because it is something you repeat continually
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/tottenham-hotspur/alletransfers/verein/148
SPOILER ALERT: £300m gross £200m net spending over 2.5 seasons (5 windows) is not a lemonade budget. And this does not even account for the deferred purchase of Romero & Gollini (£60m) and any dealings we do in January
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It goes way beyond pi** poor spending on transfers and not buying the right players in the right positions. This season being a prime example where we haven’t replaced Bales or Vinicius goals, yet you are still making excuses for that
replace Vinicius' goals you mean goal
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 7 minutes ago
It goes way beyond pi** poor spending on transfers and not buying the right players in the right positions. This season being a prime example where we haven’t replaced Bales or Vinicius goals, yet you are still making excuses for that
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ffs don. you cannot be serious. are you actually incapable of looking at a big picture? every time anyone shows you the progress of the club on a wholistic level, you always dig into these micro example of we didnt buy x or y. that just discredits your argument..... are you honestly judging the ownership of the club on the basis that we have not signed a replacement backup striker?
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 7 minutes ago
It goes way beyond pi** poor spending on transfers and not buying the right players in the right positions. This season being a prime example where we haven’t replaced Bales or Vinicius goals, yet you are still making excuses for that
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ffs don. you cannot be serious. are you actually incapable of looking at a big picture? every time anyone shows you the progress of the club on a wholistic level, you always dig into these micro example of we didnt buy x or y. that just discredits your argument..... are you honestly judging the ownership of the club on the basis that we have not signed a replacement backup striker?
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F*** me. Every single time with you. No!!!!!!!!!!!!!
.Super league fiasco
.Highest ticket prices in Europe with nothing on the pitch to show for it
.Pandemic shambles
.No ambition
.Never backed the best manager in a decade
.Lack of strategy and planning
.Sacking a manager before a cup final and replacing with a rookie just to save money in case Mourinho won it - scandalous
.1 league cup in over 21 years
.Manager farce this summer - embarrassing
.Constant false promises and lies to the supporters
.No on field strategy and only care about off field matters
.Lack of communication with own supporters
Do you want me to go on chronic or do you want me to stop ? You put your hand in your ears every time I answer you, so it’s pointless even discussing with you
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comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 38 minutes ago
I think when people find so little or no joy in supporting their club it is hard for others to accept their constant negativity.
Both Billy & Don make good points at times but it is an ocean of negative comments which don't just ignore positive elements of the club/owners, they dismiss them entirely as luck or means to trouser profits etc. their total criticism of all things Spurs undermines the credibility their more valid criticisms.
they take the approach that a LFC mate of mine takes in assessing Kane. He doesn't rate him as he hasn't got pace. Yes, a valid criticism but only one aspect of his makeup. He wouldnt have him at LFC - his opinion but the basis of which is narrow and lacking proper consideration.
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I’ve always found this forum a bit unique in that there is a bit more evenly distributed spread of opinions about the owners, but generally from what I come across on Twitter and some of the YouTube stuff I watch I do think there is quite a prevelant anti-ENIC sentiment out there now and since the whole Mourinho debacle and then the Super League and the absolute mess of the last managerial appointment it does seem to have gotten significant worse so I don’t think that the likes of the two posters you mention are alone in that.
Like with yourself I actually find you to be a pretty measured and intelligent poster, but could also understand why someone would label you as overly positive, or blindly loyal to the owners, whereas that’s not the case, you just offer opinions as you see things.
I’m not comfortable with supporters being labelled in certain ways as it seems to suggest that their views are slightly disingenuous and driven by an agenda rather than the sincerity of their opinions.
posted on 12/10/21
I thought our last performance was good. Entertaining and a good result. It gave me joy and hope.
posted on 12/10/21
comment by ABC Jelly (U22709)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 38 minutes ago
I think when people find so little or no joy in supporting their club it is hard for others to accept their constant negativity.
Both Billy & Don make good points at times but it is an ocean of negative comments which don't just ignore positive elements of the club/owners, they dismiss them entirely as luck or means to trouser profits etc. their total criticism of all things Spurs undermines the credibility their more valid criticisms.
they take the approach that a LFC mate of mine takes in assessing Kane. He doesn't rate him as he hasn't got pace. Yes, a valid criticism but only one aspect of his makeup. He wouldnt have him at LFC - his opinion but the basis of which is narrow and lacking proper consideration.
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I’ve always found this forum a bit unique in that there is a bit more evenly distributed spread of opinions about the owners, but generally from what I come across on Twitter and some of the YouTube stuff I watch I do think there is quite a prevelant anti-ENIC sentiment out there now and since the whole Mourinho debacle and then the Super League and the absolute mess of the last managerial appointment it does seem to have gotten significant worse so I don’t think that the likes of the two posters you mention are alone in that.
Like with yourself I actually find you to be a pretty measured and intelligent poster, but could also understand why someone would label you as overly positive, or blindly loyal to the owners, whereas that’s not the case, you just offer opinions as you see things.
I’m not comfortable with supporters being labelled in certain ways as it seems to suggest that their views are slightly disingenuous and driven by an agenda rather than the sincerity of their opinions.
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As a wise man once said, Form your views on life from twitter and you too will become an idiot.
posted on 12/10/21
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 2 hours, 43 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 5 minutes ago
I like you Devonshire, but Jesus Christ you are a Levy and ENIC sympathiser. How can you be happy with the club failing to sign an adequate back up ? Meaning we are left with a 17 year old rookie as our only sub striker. How the hell in any shape or form is that acceptable for any club let alone a top club.
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Its not acceptable, but not signing a backup striker isn't a reason to demand a change in ownership .....
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The last 20 years of misery and extortionate tickets prices is a reason to demand a change of ownership though
posted on 12/10/21
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by ABC Jelly (U22709)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 38 minutes ago
I think when people find so little or no joy in supporting their club it is hard for others to accept their constant negativity.
Both Billy & Don make good points at times but it is an ocean of negative comments which don't just ignore positive elements of the club/owners, they dismiss them entirely as luck or means to trouser profits etc. their total criticism of all things Spurs undermines the credibility their more valid criticisms.
they take the approach that a LFC mate of mine takes in assessing Kane. He doesn't rate him as he hasn't got pace. Yes, a valid criticism but only one aspect of his makeup. He wouldnt have him at LFC - his opinion but the basis of which is narrow and lacking proper consideration.
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I’ve always found this forum a bit unique in that there is a bit more evenly distributed spread of opinions about the owners, but generally from what I come across on Twitter and some of the YouTube stuff I watch I do think there is quite a prevelant anti-ENIC sentiment out there now and since the whole Mourinho debacle and then the Super League and the absolute mess of the last managerial appointment it does seem to have gotten significant worse so I don’t think that the likes of the two posters you mention are alone in that.
Like with yourself I actually find you to be a pretty measured and intelligent poster, but could also understand why someone would label you as overly positive, or blindly loyal to the owners, whereas that’s not the case, you just offer opinions as you see things.
I’m not comfortable with supporters being labelled in certain ways as it seems to suggest that their views are slightly disingenuous and driven by an agenda rather than the sincerity of their opinions.
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As a wise man once said, Form your views on life from twitter and you too will become an idiot.
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A wise man could say the same thing about online football forums.
posted on 12/10/21
We do not need a back up striker, what we need is another striker to rival Kane for a starting place, to play along side Kane or instead of Kane. So that performances do not suffer when one or the other is rested, injured or out of form.
Unfortunately ENIC balk at the asking prices and we are left with a short squad time and time again.
It is time these Mickey Mouse owners moved on.
posted on 12/10/21
It is time these Mickey Mouse owners moved on.
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the way you say it is as if its as easy as moving a player on (which we have found is not as easy as it seems anyway). change of ownership is probably just about the riskiest thing that can happen to a football club.
I will ask you the same thing I have asked others.... can you name even one buyer? even one?
when we want players out, we have an idea of who we want in. when we want a manager out, every fan has an idea who they might want in. as for an owner, people want ENIC out, and I have heard not one single person ever give me the name of someone they want to come and buy the club.
posted on 12/10/21
I am all for ENIC out if they are to be replaced with someone willing to inject cash into the club, makes non stop sensible decisions, doesn't neglect the academy due to purchase power, and there is little if any risk of them being a total maverick and therefore risking the future of the club.
I would be interested to know peoples shortlist for the above would-be owners.
posted on 12/10/21
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
It is time these Mickey Mouse owners moved on.
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the way you say it is as if its as easy as moving a player on (which we have found is not as easy as it seems anyway). change of ownership is probably just about the riskiest thing that can happen to a football club.
I will ask you the same thing I have asked others.... can you name even one buyer? even one?
when we want players out, we have an idea of who we want in. when we want a manager out, every fan has an idea who they might want in. as for an owner, people want ENIC out, and I have heard not one single person ever give me the name of someone they want to come and buy the club.
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You always say this chronic. Owners are not football players, so why would any of us have an individual of who want ? But, to answer your question. Owners like Leicester who are willing to spend money to win trophies, hence the team they have built up which have won the league and Fa cup. Ok, the league was a one off, but the point being, the Leicester owners want too push the club forward to win more honours. Our bunch of property developers are more interested in lady gaga concerts and winning the net spend trophy every season. In other words, we want ambitious owners who put on field matters first, off field matters second, which is the complete opposite of ENIC and Levy where on field matters is always secondary. That should answer your question pretty clearly mate
posted on 13/10/21
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 15 hours, 41 minutes ago
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
It is time these Mickey Mouse owners moved on.
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the way you say it is as if its as easy as moving a player on (which we have found is not as easy as it seems anyway). change of ownership is probably just about the riskiest thing that can happen to a football club.
I will ask you the same thing I have asked others.... can you name even one buyer? even one?
when we want players out, we have an idea of who we want in. when we want a manager out, every fan has an idea who they might want in. as for an owner, people want ENIC out, and I have heard not one single person ever give me the name of someone they want to come and buy the club.
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You always say this chronic. Owners are not football players, so why would any of us have an individual of who want ? But, to answer your question. Owners like Leicester who are willing to spend money to win trophies, hence the team they have built up which have won the league and Fa cup. Ok, the league was a one off, but the point being, the Leicester owners want too push the club forward to win more honours. Our bunch of property developers are more interested in lady gaga concerts and winning the net spend trophy every season. In other words, we want ambitious owners who put on field matters first, off field matters second, which is the complete opposite of ENIC and Levy where on field matters is always secondary. That should answer your question pretty clearly mate
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You just dont get it do you.
On the one hand its "we want owners that spend". Then in the same breath you criticise the owners for pursuing for seeking new revenue streams through the Stadium.
What would you prefer....the literal 10s of millions the stadium will generate from Lady Gaga, Guns& Rose, AJ, NFL etc....or nothing.
If these uses pay the interest on the stadium then everything else we earn is gravy.
The focus is rightly on earning as much money as possible so we can spend as much money as possible. Or are you just another sugar daddy day dreamer expecting our owners to play fantasy football like the oil clubs?
posted on 13/10/21
Chronic retaining his place in the Spurs numpty Galactica
posted on 13/10/21
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 15 hours, 41 minutes ago
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
It is time these Mickey Mouse owners moved on.
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the way you say it is as if its as easy as moving a player on (which we have found is not as easy as it seems anyway). change of ownership is probably just about the riskiest thing that can happen to a football club.
I will ask you the same thing I have asked others.... can you name even one buyer? even one?
when we want players out, we have an idea of who we want in. when we want a manager out, every fan has an idea who they might want in. as for an owner, people want ENIC out, and I have heard not one single person ever give me the name of someone they want to come and buy the club.
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You always say this chronic. Owners are not football players, so why would any of us have an individual of who want ? But, to answer your question. Owners like Leicester who are willing to spend money to win trophies, hence the team they have built up which have won the league and Fa cup. Ok, the league was a one off, but the point being, the Leicester owners want too push the club forward to win more honours. Our bunch of property developers are more interested in lady gaga concerts and winning the net spend trophy every season. In other words, we want ambitious owners who put on field matters first, off field matters second, which is the complete opposite of ENIC and Levy where on field matters is always secondary. That should answer your question pretty clearly mate
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You just dont get it do you.
On the one hand its "we want owners that spend". Then in the same breath you criticise the owners for pursuing for seeking new revenue streams through the Stadium.
What would you prefer....the literal 10s of millions the stadium will generate from Lady Gaga, Guns& Rose, AJ, NFL etc....or nothing.
If these uses pay the interest on the stadium then everything else we earn is gravy.
The focus is rightly on earning as much money as possible so we can spend as much money as possible. Or are you just another sugar daddy day dreamer expecting our owners to play fantasy football like the oil clubs?
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Yes I do “get it” Devonshire. On what planet do you think our owners and Levy will spend big with the revenue we got ? Please tell me. Show me any evidence under this regime, we will go out and splash what is needed to build a successful team. Levy has already said in an interview he doesn’t believe spending big means success. That’s his mentality. Trying to build success on a lemonade budget. I think you need to get your head out the sand mate. This stadium and revenue streams makes no difference. Levy will still be Levy and ENIC will still be ENIC. They don’t harbour the level of ambition other top clubs do regardless of our stadium. Stop trying to make excuses for them ffs.
posted on 13/10/21
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 16 hours, 27 minutes ago
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
It is time these Mickey Mouse owners moved on.
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the way you say it is as if its as easy as moving a player on (which we have found is not as easy as it seems anyway). change of ownership is probably just about the riskiest thing that can happen to a football club.
I will ask you the same thing I have asked others.... can you name even one buyer? even one?
when we want players out, we have an idea of who we want in. when we want a manager out, every fan has an idea who they might want in. as for an owner, people want ENIC out, and I have heard not one single person ever give me the name of someone they want to come and buy the club.
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You always say this chronic. Owners are not football players, so why would any of us have an individual of who want ? But, to answer your question. Owners like Leicester who are willing to spend money to win trophies, hence the team they have built up which have won the league and Fa cup. Ok, the league was a one off, but the point being, the Leicester owners want too push the club forward to win more honours. Our bunch of property developers are more interested in lady gaga concerts and winning the net spend trophy every season. In other words, we want ambitious owners who put on field matters first, off field matters second, which is the complete opposite of ENIC and Levy where on field matters is always secondary. That should answer your question pretty clearly mate
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so basically, you didnt answer the question, because you dont know. exactly my point. when you can put forward a sensible candidate to buy spurs then I will join you on your ENIC out crusade.
posted on 13/10/21
comment by FC Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 38 minutes ago
Chronic retaining his place in the Spurs numpty Galactica
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this probably sounded really good when you thought it up in your head.
posted on 13/10/21
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by FC Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 38 minutes ago
Chronic retaining his place in the Spurs numpty Galactica
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this probably sounded really good when you thought it up in your head.
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Still looks good in print as well son
posted on 13/10/21
You sizzle Ace morespurs Sandy and latterly chocolate strikefish are a class back five... No other club on this site has this sort of talent pool
posted on 13/10/21
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 16 hours, 27 minutes ago
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
It is time these Mickey Mouse owners moved on.
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the way you say it is as if its as easy as moving a player on (which we have found is not as easy as it seems anyway). change of ownership is probably just about the riskiest thing that can happen to a football club.
I will ask you the same thing I have asked others.... can you name even one buyer? even one?
when we want players out, we have an idea of who we want in. when we want a manager out, every fan has an idea who they might want in. as for an owner, people want ENIC out, and I have heard not one single person ever give me the name of someone they want to come and buy the club.
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You always say this chronic. Owners are not football players, so why would any of us have an individual of who want ? But, to answer your question. Owners like Leicester who are willing to spend money to win trophies, hence the team they have built up which have won the league and Fa cup. Ok, the league was a one off, but the point being, the Leicester owners want too push the club forward to win more honours. Our bunch of property developers are more interested in lady gaga concerts and winning the net spend trophy every season. In other words, we want ambitious owners who put on field matters first, off field matters second, which is the complete opposite of ENIC and Levy where on field matters is always secondary. That should answer your question pretty clearly mate
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so basically, you didnt answer the question, because you dont know. exactly my point. when you can put forward a sensible candidate to buy spurs then I will join you on your ENIC out crusade.
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I answered you clearly son. Stop trying to get answers that are impossible to get. I told you exactly what I want from my owners, end of story. You carry on with your blind loyalty to ENIC and Levy, it’s absolutely ridiculous mate
posted on 13/10/21
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 15 hours, 41 minutes ago
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
It is time these Mickey Mouse owners moved on.
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the way you say it is as if its as easy as moving a player on (which we have found is not as easy as it seems anyway). change of ownership is probably just about the riskiest thing that can happen to a football club.
I will ask you the same thing I have asked others.... can you name even one buyer? even one?
when we want players out, we have an idea of who we want in. when we want a manager out, every fan has an idea who they might want in. as for an owner, people want ENIC out, and I have heard not one single person ever give me the name of someone they want to come and buy the club.
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You always say this chronic. Owners are not football players, so why would any of us have an individual of who want ? But, to answer your question. Owners like Leicester who are willing to spend money to win trophies, hence the team they have built up which have won the league and Fa cup. Ok, the league was a one off, but the point being, the Leicester owners want too push the club forward to win more honours. Our bunch of property developers are more interested in lady gaga concerts and winning the net spend trophy every season. In other words, we want ambitious owners who put on field matters first, off field matters second, which is the complete opposite of ENIC and Levy where on field matters is always secondary. That should answer your question pretty clearly mate
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You just dont get it do you.
On the one hand its "we want owners that spend". Then in the same breath you criticise the owners for pursuing for seeking new revenue streams through the Stadium.
What would you prefer....the literal 10s of millions the stadium will generate from Lady Gaga, Guns& Rose, AJ, NFL etc....or nothing.
If these uses pay the interest on the stadium then everything else we earn is gravy.
The focus is rightly on earning as much money as possible so we can spend as much money as possible. Or are you just another sugar daddy day dreamer expecting our owners to play fantasy football like the oil clubs?
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exactly. Don you have to surely be able to see what Devonshire is saying here..... you are criticising the owners for doing non football things to raise money, because they do not spend enough on the team, but the whole point that they are doing the other stuff is to generate money to spend on the team.....
and we have seen this through an increase in wages and spending over the last couple of years. COVID hugely set us back. probably came at the worst time for us as we had just built the stadium, but now that events are back I would expect the next year or two to have increased funds available. If we do not increase our spending to match our revenue, then you might start to have a point.
If you hadnt noticed, our Jewish and Arabic friends are not exactly the best of buddies, and dont really do business with each other, so the idea of ENIC selling the club to some kind of middle eastern oil baron is pretty unlikely.
If we sold ENIC, it would probably be bought buy another consortium, and run exactly the same way, simply because the majority of football clubs in the country operate on this basis, and only a handful have owners who put in serious cash injections.
posted on 13/10/21
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 16 hours, 27 minutes ago
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
It is time these Mickey Mouse owners moved on.
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the way you say it is as if its as easy as moving a player on (which we have found is not as easy as it seems anyway). change of ownership is probably just about the riskiest thing that can happen to a football club.
I will ask you the same thing I have asked others.... can you name even one buyer? even one?
when we want players out, we have an idea of who we want in. when we want a manager out, every fan has an idea who they might want in. as for an owner, people want ENIC out, and I have heard not one single person ever give me the name of someone they want to come and buy the club.
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You always say this chronic. Owners are not football players, so why would any of us have an individual of who want ? But, to answer your question. Owners like Leicester who are willing to spend money to win trophies, hence the team they have built up which have won the league and Fa cup. Ok, the league was a one off, but the point being, the Leicester owners want too push the club forward to win more honours. Our bunch of property developers are more interested in lady gaga concerts and winning the net spend trophy every season. In other words, we want ambitious owners who put on field matters first, off field matters second, which is the complete opposite of ENIC and Levy where on field matters is always secondary. That should answer your question pretty clearly mate
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so basically, you didnt answer the question, because you dont know. exactly my point. when you can put forward a sensible candidate to buy spurs then I will join you on your ENIC out crusade.
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I answered you clearly son. Stop trying to get answers that are impossible to get. I told you exactly what I want from my owners, end of story. You carry on with your blind loyalty to ENIC and Levy, it’s absolutely ridiculous mate
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I do not have any blind loyalty to ENIC. I already said that if the ideal owner came along then I would be happy for them to sell.
I am making pretty objective statements... just comparing how it was then to how it was now, and pointing out the good things that they have done (which there are many), and also the bad things they have done (of which there are also several). basically they are not perfect, but there are far far worse owners out there.
posted on 13/10/21
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 3 hours, 37 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 15 hours, 41 minutes ago
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
It is time these Mickey Mouse owners moved on.
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the way you say it is as if its as easy as moving a player on (which we have found is not as easy as it seems anyway). change of ownership is probably just about the riskiest thing that can happen to a football club.
I will ask you the same thing I have asked others.... can you name even one buyer? even one?
when we want players out, we have an idea of who we want in. when we want a manager out, every fan has an idea who they might want in. as for an owner, people want ENIC out, and I have heard not one single person ever give me the name of someone they want to come and buy the club.
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You always say this chronic. Owners are not football players, so why would any of us have an individual of who want ? But, to answer your question. Owners like Leicester who are willing to spend money to win trophies, hence the team they have built up which have won the league and Fa cup. Ok, the league was a one off, but the point being, the Leicester owners want too push the club forward to win more honours. Our bunch of property developers are more interested in lady gaga concerts and winning the net spend trophy every season. In other words, we want ambitious owners who put on field matters first, off field matters second, which is the complete opposite of ENIC and Levy where on field matters is always secondary. That should answer your question pretty clearly mate
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You just dont get it do you.
On the one hand its "we want owners that spend". Then in the same breath you criticise the owners for pursuing for seeking new revenue streams through the Stadium.
What would you prefer....the literal 10s of millions the stadium will generate from Lady Gaga, Guns& Rose, AJ, NFL etc....or nothing.
If these uses pay the interest on the stadium then everything else we earn is gravy.
The focus is rightly on earning as much money as possible so we can spend as much money as possible. Or are you just another sugar daddy day dreamer expecting our owners to play fantasy football like the oil clubs?
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Yes I do “get it” Devonshire. On what planet do you think our owners and Levy will spend big with the revenue we got ? Please tell me. Show me any evidence under this regime, we will go out and splash what is needed to build a successful team. Levy has already said in an interview he doesn’t believe spending big means success. That’s his mentality. Trying to build success on a lemonade budget. I think you need to get your head out the sand mate. This stadium and revenue streams makes no difference. Levy will still be Levy and ENIC will still be ENIC. They don’t harbour the level of ambition other top clubs do regardless of our stadium. Stop trying to make excuses for them ffs.
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Is not building a massive stadium to boost our revenues to enable greater spending ambition?
If we manage in the future to gain a stadium sponsor and or an NFL franchise, bringing in 10s of millions more, is this not ambition?
Here is a link to Spurs transfer spend. Its a pretty reliable source of info. Have a look at our transfer spending, net and gross before and after the new stadium in 2019.
Look at it. read it. and then tell me how the new stadium has not boosted our spending, because it is something you repeat continually
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/tottenham-hotspur/alletransfers/verein/148
SPOILER ALERT: £300m gross £200m net spending over 2.5 seasons (5 windows) is not a lemonade budget. And this does not even account for the deferred purchase of Romero & Gollini (£60m) and any dealings we do in January
posted on 13/10/21
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posted on 13/10/21
It goes way beyond pi** poor spending on transfers and not buying the right players in the right positions. This season being a prime example where we haven’t replaced Bales or Vinicius goals, yet you are still making excuses for that
posted on 13/10/21
replace Vinicius' goals you mean goal
posted on 13/10/21
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 7 minutes ago
It goes way beyond pi** poor spending on transfers and not buying the right players in the right positions. This season being a prime example where we haven’t replaced Bales or Vinicius goals, yet you are still making excuses for that
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ffs don. you cannot be serious. are you actually incapable of looking at a big picture? every time anyone shows you the progress of the club on a wholistic level, you always dig into these micro example of we didnt buy x or y. that just discredits your argument..... are you honestly judging the ownership of the club on the basis that we have not signed a replacement backup striker?
posted on 13/10/21
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 7 minutes ago
It goes way beyond pi** poor spending on transfers and not buying the right players in the right positions. This season being a prime example where we haven’t replaced Bales or Vinicius goals, yet you are still making excuses for that
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ffs don. you cannot be serious. are you actually incapable of looking at a big picture? every time anyone shows you the progress of the club on a wholistic level, you always dig into these micro example of we didnt buy x or y. that just discredits your argument..... are you honestly judging the ownership of the club on the basis that we have not signed a replacement backup striker?
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F*** me. Every single time with you. No!!!!!!!!!!!!!
.Super league fiasco
.Highest ticket prices in Europe with nothing on the pitch to show for it
.Pandemic shambles
.No ambition
.Never backed the best manager in a decade
.Lack of strategy and planning
.Sacking a manager before a cup final and replacing with a rookie just to save money in case Mourinho won it - scandalous
.1 league cup in over 21 years
.Manager farce this summer - embarrassing
.Constant false promises and lies to the supporters
.No on field strategy and only care about off field matters
.Lack of communication with own supporters
Do you want me to go on chronic or do you want me to stop ? You put your hand in your ears every time I answer you, so it’s pointless even discussing with you
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