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comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 1/4/22

comment by Don (U22703)
posted 6 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 7 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 22 seconds ago
So Mendy was arrested but then released without charge, until Aug 2021 when he was arrested again.

The relevence is, Greenwood will either be charged or released, as Mendy was.
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Nah that's not really how it works. Being released under investigation is relatively new and is used where the police don't feel that bail conditions are required. There is still a live investigation just as if you have been bailed. In Mason's case I would expect he was bailed due to concerns that he would try to intimidate Harriet and the police wanted those restrictions in place.
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We don't know there are any restrictions on him, although common sense would tell you to not make contact with the other party.
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He has been bailed - of course there are restrictions/conditions on him. That is the very purpose of bail as opposed to being released pending investigations.

The lad is suspected of threatening to kill Harriet. I am 99.99% sure that his bail conditions will specify that he cannot contact her. Carry on trying to pretend otherwise if you wish, but it would be absolutely mental if that isn't the case.

Either way, I am not really sure what point you think you are making anyway. We are discussing why the fact Mason hasn't yet been charged isn't necessarily a good thing for him. As we have seen with Mendy, the actual charges were not brought until a year after the initial arrest. The fact that one was released pending further investigations and the other bailed doesn't alter anything. It certainly doesn't go in Mason's favour, as the police clearly feel that the seriousness of the potential charges and evidence at hand means that Mason represents a threat to Harriet/the case. If anything, Mason being bailed rather than released pending further investigation points to him being in a more precarious situation than Mendy was.

posted on 1/4/22

I dont know why you do this to yourself Elvis. Are you expecting him to hold his hands up and say "yeah, fair enough you're probably right" ?

posted on 1/4/22

Saying we don't know if there are any restrictions on someone who is on bail is my favourite thing today. It's only 10:46 but I cant see it being beaten.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 1/4/22

comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 57 minutes ago
I dont know why you do this to yourself Elvis. Are you expecting him to hold his hands up and say "yeah, fair enough you're probably right" ?
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I just like telling him how stupid he is.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 1/4/22

comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 39 minutes ago
Saying we don't know if there are any restrictions on someone who is on bail is my favourite thing today. It's only 10:46 but I cant see it being beaten.
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RDD is a special kind of special.

posted on 1/4/22

comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 39 minutes ago
Saying we don't know if there are any restrictions on someone who is on bail is my favourite thing today. It's only 10:46 but I cant see it being beaten.
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RDD is a special kind of special.
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But who is the more special of the specials? RDD or Stretty?

posted on 1/4/22

comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 6 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 7 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 22 seconds ago
So Mendy was arrested but then released without charge, until Aug 2021 when he was arrested again.

The relevence is, Greenwood will either be charged or released, as Mendy was.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Nah that's not really how it works. Being released under investigation is relatively new and is used where the police don't feel that bail conditions are required. There is still a live investigation just as if you have been bailed. In Mason's case I would expect he was bailed due to concerns that he would try to intimidate Harriet and the police wanted those restrictions in place.
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We don't know there are any restrictions on him, although common sense would tell you to not make contact with the other party.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

He has been bailed - of course there are restrictions/conditions on him. That is the very purpose of bail as opposed to being released pending investigations.

The lad is suspected of threatening to kill Harriet. I am 99.99% sure that his bail conditions will specify that he cannot contact her. Carry on trying to pretend otherwise if you wish, but it would be absolutely mental if that isn't the case.

Either way, I am not really sure what point you think you are making anyway. We are discussing why the fact Mason hasn't yet been charged isn't necessarily a good thing for him. As we have seen with Mendy, the actual charges were not brought until a year after the initial arrest. The fact that one was released pending further investigations and the other bailed doesn't alter anything. It certainly doesn't go in Mason's favour, as the police clearly feel that the seriousness of the potential charges and evidence at hand means that Mason represents a threat to Harriet/the case. If anything, Mason being bailed rather than released pending further investigation points to him being in a more precarious situation than Mendy was.
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There are different kinds of bail. Some with conditions, others without.

We also dont know if the threats to kill were aimed at her.

The fact the police havent yet found grounds to charge him is certainly more positive than having already been charged.

posted on 1/4/22

Go look up unconditional bail

posted on 1/4/22

posted on 1/4/22

Genuine question here RDD but in your head is it everyone else marching out of step?

I do find people like you quite fascinating tbh.

posted on 1/4/22

comment by babyen ansikt snikmorder (U9094)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 39 minutes ago
Saying we don't know if there are any restrictions on someone who is on bail is my favourite thing today. It's only 10:46 but I cant see it being beaten.
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RDD is a special kind of special.
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But who is the more special of the specials? RDD or Stretty?
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Stretty for sure.

posted on 1/4/22

comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Genuine question here RDD but in your head is it everyone else marching out of step?

I do find people like you quite fascinating tbh.
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You should head over to the trump thread, stretty is on fire

posted on 1/4/22

There's a Trump thread?!?!?

Excellent.

Link that please Baz.

posted on 1/4/22

comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
There's a Trump thread?!?!?

Excellent.

Link that please Baz.
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It started as a sort of trump thread, but it’s basically the stretty show

https://www.ja606.co.uk/articles/viewArticle/443677

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 1/4/22

comment by Don (U22703)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 6 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 7 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 22 seconds ago
So Mendy was arrested but then released without charge, until Aug 2021 when he was arrested again.

The relevence is, Greenwood will either be charged or released, as Mendy was.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Nah that's not really how it works. Being released under investigation is relatively new and is used where the police don't feel that bail conditions are required. There is still a live investigation just as if you have been bailed. In Mason's case I would expect he was bailed due to concerns that he would try to intimidate Harriet and the police wanted those restrictions in place.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

We don't know there are any restrictions on him, although common sense would tell you to not make contact with the other party.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

He has been bailed - of course there are restrictions/conditions on him. That is the very purpose of bail as opposed to being released pending investigations.

The lad is suspected of threatening to kill Harriet. I am 99.99% sure that his bail conditions will specify that he cannot contact her. Carry on trying to pretend otherwise if you wish, but it would be absolutely mental if that isn't the case.

Either way, I am not really sure what point you think you are making anyway. We are discussing why the fact Mason hasn't yet been charged isn't necessarily a good thing for him. As we have seen with Mendy, the actual charges were not brought until a year after the initial arrest. The fact that one was released pending further investigations and the other bailed doesn't alter anything. It certainly doesn't go in Mason's favour, as the police clearly feel that the seriousness of the potential charges and evidence at hand means that Mason represents a threat to Harriet/the case. If anything, Mason being bailed rather than released pending further investigation points to him being in a more precarious situation than Mendy was.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

There are different kinds of bail. Some with conditions, others without.

We also dont know if the threats to kill were aimed at her.

The fact the police havent yet found grounds to charge him is certainly more positive than having already been charged.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Whoever the threats to kill were made against, I am certain that a condition of his bail is to not make contact with them. Either way, its totally irrelevant to the discussion we were having. The fact that Greenwood hasn't been charged as yet isn't an indication either way as to whether he will be charged eventually. As demonstrated by how Mendy's situation has panned out. It could easily be that they are building a big case against him. And like Mendy, he might actually end up facing even more charges than the 4 he is currently suspected of.

posted on 1/4/22

comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 37 minutes ago
Genuine question here RDD but in your head is it everyone else marching out of step?

I do find people like you quite fascinating tbh.
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Less of the condescension please. Im correct here 👍🏻

posted on 1/4/22

comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 6 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 7 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 22 seconds ago
So Mendy was arrested but then released without charge, until Aug 2021 when he was arrested again.

The relevence is, Greenwood will either be charged or released, as Mendy was.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Nah that's not really how it works. Being released under investigation is relatively new and is used where the police don't feel that bail conditions are required. There is still a live investigation just as if you have been bailed. In Mason's case I would expect he was bailed due to concerns that he would try to intimidate Harriet and the police wanted those restrictions in place.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

We don't know there are any restrictions on him, although common sense would tell you to not make contact with the other party.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

He has been bailed - of course there are restrictions/conditions on him. That is the very purpose of bail as opposed to being released pending investigations.

The lad is suspected of threatening to kill Harriet. I am 99.99% sure that his bail conditions will specify that he cannot contact her. Carry on trying to pretend otherwise if you wish, but it would be absolutely mental if that isn't the case.

Either way, I am not really sure what point you think you are making anyway. We are discussing why the fact Mason hasn't yet been charged isn't necessarily a good thing for him. As we have seen with Mendy, the actual charges were not brought until a year after the initial arrest. The fact that one was released pending further investigations and the other bailed doesn't alter anything. It certainly doesn't go in Mason's favour, as the police clearly feel that the seriousness of the potential charges and evidence at hand means that Mason represents a threat to Harriet/the case. If anything, Mason being bailed rather than released pending further investigation points to him being in a more precarious situation than Mendy was.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

There are different kinds of bail. Some with conditions, others without.

We also dont know if the threats to kill were aimed at her.

The fact the police havent yet found grounds to charge him is certainly more positive than having already been charged.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Whoever the threats to kill were made against, I am certain that a condition of his bail is to not make contact with them. Either way, its totally irrelevant to the discussion we were having. The fact that Greenwood hasn't been charged as yet isn't an indication either way as to whether he will be charged eventually. As demonstrated by how Mendy's situation has panned out. It could easily be that they are building a big case against him. And like Mendy, he might actually end up facing even more charges than the 4 he is currently suspected of.
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it is relevant. I was correct. You were not.

posted on 1/4/22

comment by Don (U22703)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 37 minutes ago
Genuine question here RDD but in your head is it everyone else marching out of step?

I do find people like you quite fascinating tbh.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Less of the condescension please. Im correct here 👍🏻
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No, you're not.

Do you know what bail with literally no conditions is called? Nothing. Because there isnt anything.

Answer my original question please.

posted on 1/4/22

No charges is a positive compared with having been charged. That cannot be questioned.

Yes, the police could continue to investigate and charge him down the line, but they could also determine that they dont gave grounds to charge.

posted on 1/4/22

Grass is green.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 1/4/22

comment by Don (U22703)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 6 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 7 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 22 seconds ago
So Mendy was arrested but then released without charge, until Aug 2021 when he was arrested again.

The relevence is, Greenwood will either be charged or released, as Mendy was.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Nah that's not really how it works. Being released under investigation is relatively new and is used where the police don't feel that bail conditions are required. There is still a live investigation just as if you have been bailed. In Mason's case I would expect he was bailed due to concerns that he would try to intimidate Harriet and the police wanted those restrictions in place.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

We don't know there are any restrictions on him, although common sense would tell you to not make contact with the other party.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

He has been bailed - of course there are restrictions/conditions on him. That is the very purpose of bail as opposed to being released pending investigations.

The lad is suspected of threatening to kill Harriet. I am 99.99% sure that his bail conditions will specify that he cannot contact her. Carry on trying to pretend otherwise if you wish, but it would be absolutely mental if that isn't the case.

Either way, I am not really sure what point you think you are making anyway. We are discussing why the fact Mason hasn't yet been charged isn't necessarily a good thing for him. As we have seen with Mendy, the actual charges were not brought until a year after the initial arrest. The fact that one was released pending further investigations and the other bailed doesn't alter anything. It certainly doesn't go in Mason's favour, as the police clearly feel that the seriousness of the potential charges and evidence at hand means that Mason represents a threat to Harriet/the case. If anything, Mason being bailed rather than released pending further investigation points to him being in a more precarious situation than Mendy was.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

There are different kinds of bail. Some with conditions, others without.

We also dont know if the threats to kill were aimed at her.

The fact the police havent yet found grounds to charge him is certainly more positive than having already been charged.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Whoever the threats to kill were made against, I am certain that a condition of his bail is to not make contact with them. Either way, its totally irrelevant to the discussion we were having. The fact that Greenwood hasn't been charged as yet isn't an indication either way as to whether he will be charged eventually. As demonstrated by how Mendy's situation has panned out. It could easily be that they are building a big case against him. And like Mendy, he might actually end up facing even more charges than the 4 he is currently suspected of.
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it is relevant. I was correct. You were not.
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No, its not relevant to the discussion we were having. Just another of your usual sidesteps when you realise your point is incorrect.

The fact that Greenwood hasn't been charged yet means nothing. It could mean that the police don't have enough evidence as yet to charge him. It could mean the the case they are building is complex. It could even mean that the case is getting bigger and additional charges are going to be brought. We have no idea. What we do know is that these cases do tend to drag out for a long time.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 1/4/22

comment by Don (U22703)
posted 8 minutes ago

No charges is a positive compared with having been charged. That cannot be questioned.
-------------------

What is better for Mason? Getting charged with 4 crimes now, or getting charged with those same 4 crimes plus another 3 crimes a few months down the line?

posted on 1/4/22

comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 37 minutes ago
Genuine question here RDD but in your head is it everyone else marching out of step?

I do find people like you quite fascinating tbh.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Less of the condescension please. Im correct here 👍🏻
----------------------------------------------------------------------

No, you're not.

Do you know what bail with literally no conditions is called? Nothing. Because there isnt anything.

Answer my original question please.
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Unconditional bail. Look it up.

posted on 1/4/22

comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 8 minutes ago

No charges is a positive compared with having been charged. That cannot be questioned.
-------------------

What is better for Mason? Getting charged with 4 crimes now, or getting charged with those same 4 crimes plus another 3 crimes a few months down the line?
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They cant sit on charges if they have grounds to charge.

posted on 1/4/22

comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 6 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 7 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 22 seconds ago
So Mendy was arrested but then released without charge, until Aug 2021 when he was arrested again.

The relevence is, Greenwood will either be charged or released, as Mendy was.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Nah that's not really how it works. Being released under investigation is relatively new and is used where the police don't feel that bail conditions are required. There is still a live investigation just as if you have been bailed. In Mason's case I would expect he was bailed due to concerns that he would try to intimidate Harriet and the police wanted those restrictions in place.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

We don't know there are any restrictions on him, although common sense would tell you to not make contact with the other party.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

He has been bailed - of course there are restrictions/conditions on him. That is the very purpose of bail as opposed to being released pending investigations.

The lad is suspected of threatening to kill Harriet. I am 99.99% sure that his bail conditions will specify that he cannot contact her. Carry on trying to pretend otherwise if you wish, but it would be absolutely mental if that isn't the case.

Either way, I am not really sure what point you think you are making anyway. We are discussing why the fact Mason hasn't yet been charged isn't necessarily a good thing for him. As we have seen with Mendy, the actual charges were not brought until a year after the initial arrest. The fact that one was released pending further investigations and the other bailed doesn't alter anything. It certainly doesn't go in Mason's favour, as the police clearly feel that the seriousness of the potential charges and evidence at hand means that Mason represents a threat to Harriet/the case. If anything, Mason being bailed rather than released pending further investigation points to him being in a more precarious situation than Mendy was.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

There are different kinds of bail. Some with conditions, others without.

We also dont know if the threats to kill were aimed at her.

The fact the police havent yet found grounds to charge him is certainly more positive than having already been charged.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Whoever the threats to kill were made against, I am certain that a condition of his bail is to not make contact with them. Either way, its totally irrelevant to the discussion we were having. The fact that Greenwood hasn't been charged as yet isn't an indication either way as to whether he will be charged eventually. As demonstrated by how Mendy's situation has panned out. It could easily be that they are building a big case against him. And like Mendy, he might actually end up facing even more charges than the 4 he is currently suspected of.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

it is relevant. I was correct. You were not.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

No, its not relevant to the discussion we were having. Just another of your usual sidesteps when you realise your point is incorrect.

The fact that Greenwood hasn't been charged yet means nothing. It could mean that the police don't have enough evidence as yet to charge him. It could mean the the case they are building is complex. It could even mean that the case is getting bigger and additional charges are going to be brought. We have no idea. What we do know is that these cases do tend to drag out for a long time.
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The police cannot sit on charges if rhey have grounds to charge, irrespective if there investigation is ongoing.

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