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Genuine question here RDD but in your head is it everyone else marching out of step?
I do find people like you quite fascinating tbh.
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Less of the condescension please. Im correct here 👍🏻
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No, you're not.
Do you know what bail with literally no conditions is called? Nothing. Because there isnt anything.
Answer my original question please.
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Unconditional bail. Look it up.
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I don't need to. Bail in itself is a condition you utter mef.
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Genuine question here RDD but in your head is it everyone else marching out of step?
I do find people like you quite fascinating tbh.
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Less of the condescension please. Im correct here 👍🏻
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No, you're not.
Do you know what bail with literally no conditions is called? Nothing. Because there isnt anything.
Answer my original question please.
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Unconditional bail. Look it up.
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I don't need to. Bail in itself is a condition you utter mef.
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We were talking about specific restrictions.
It is possible to be bailed without restrictions / conditions.
I was right.
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So Mendy was arrested but then released without charge, until Aug 2021 when he was arrested again.
The relevence is, Greenwood will either be charged or released, as Mendy was.
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Nah that's not really how it works. Being released under investigation is relatively new and is used where the police don't feel that bail conditions are required. There is still a live investigation just as if you have been bailed. In Mason's case I would expect he was bailed due to concerns that he would try to intimidate Harriet and the police wanted those restrictions in place.
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We don't know there are any restrictions on him, although common sense would tell you to not make contact with the other party.
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He has been bailed - of course there are restrictions/conditions on him. That is the very purpose of bail as opposed to being released pending investigations.
The lad is suspected of threatening to kill Harriet. I am 99.99% sure that his bail conditions will specify that he cannot contact her. Carry on trying to pretend otherwise if you wish, but it would be absolutely mental if that isn't the case.
Either way, I am not really sure what point you think you are making anyway. We are discussing why the fact Mason hasn't yet been charged isn't necessarily a good thing for him. As we have seen with Mendy, the actual charges were not brought until a year after the initial arrest. The fact that one was released pending further investigations and the other bailed doesn't alter anything. It certainly doesn't go in Mason's favour, as the police clearly feel that the seriousness of the potential charges and evidence at hand means that Mason represents a threat to Harriet/the case. If anything, Mason being bailed rather than released pending further investigation points to him being in a more precarious situation than Mendy was.
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There are different kinds of bail. Some with conditions, others without.
We also dont know if the threats to kill were aimed at her.
The fact the police havent yet found grounds to charge him is certainly more positive than having already been charged.
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Whoever the threats to kill were made against, I am certain that a condition of his bail is to not make contact with them. Either way, its totally irrelevant to the discussion we were having. The fact that Greenwood hasn't been charged as yet isn't an indication either way as to whether he will be charged eventually. As demonstrated by how Mendy's situation has panned out. It could easily be that they are building a big case against him. And like Mendy, he might actually end up facing even more charges than the 4 he is currently suspected of.
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it is relevant. I was correct. You were not.
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No, its not relevant to the discussion we were having. Just another of your usual sidesteps when you realise your point is incorrect.
The fact that Greenwood hasn't been charged yet means nothing. It could mean that the police don't have enough evidence as yet to charge him. It could mean the the case they are building is complex. It could even mean that the case is getting bigger and additional charges are going to be brought. We have no idea. What we do know is that these cases do tend to drag out for a long time.
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The police cannot sit on charges if rhey have grounds to charge, irrespective if there investigation is ongoing.
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The Police will only bring charges once the CPS are satisfied as to whether or not the evidential test is met for each and every charge. He is facing the prospect of at least 4 charges. It could be more. It could be less. But the police won't and don't have to make a decision on which charges will be brought until they have investigated each of the potential charges.
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Genuine question here RDD but in your head is it everyone else marching out of step?
I do find people like you quite fascinating tbh.
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Less of the condescension please. Im correct here 👍🏻
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No, you're not.
Do you know what bail with literally no conditions is called? Nothing. Because there isnt anything.
Answer my original question please.
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Unconditional bail. Look it up.
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I don't need to. Bail in itself is a condition you utter mef.
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We were talking about specific restrictions.
It is possible to be bailed without restrictions / conditions.
I was right.
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They fact you have to return to the police station is a restriction. And that is without even taking into consideration the fact he is suspected of threatening to kill someone.
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So Mendy was arrested but then released without charge, until Aug 2021 when he was arrested again.
The relevence is, Greenwood will either be charged or released, as Mendy was.
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Nah that's not really how it works. Being released under investigation is relatively new and is used where the police don't feel that bail conditions are required. There is still a live investigation just as if you have been bailed. In Mason's case I would expect he was bailed due to concerns that he would try to intimidate Harriet and the police wanted those restrictions in place.
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We don't know there are any restrictions on him, although common sense would tell you to not make contact with the other party.
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He has been bailed - of course there are restrictions/conditions on him. That is the very purpose of bail as opposed to being released pending investigations.
The lad is suspected of threatening to kill Harriet. I am 99.99% sure that his bail conditions will specify that he cannot contact her. Carry on trying to pretend otherwise if you wish, but it would be absolutely mental if that isn't the case.
Either way, I am not really sure what point you think you are making anyway. We are discussing why the fact Mason hasn't yet been charged isn't necessarily a good thing for him. As we have seen with Mendy, the actual charges were not brought until a year after the initial arrest. The fact that one was released pending further investigations and the other bailed doesn't alter anything. It certainly doesn't go in Mason's favour, as the police clearly feel that the seriousness of the potential charges and evidence at hand means that Mason represents a threat to Harriet/the case. If anything, Mason being bailed rather than released pending further investigation points to him being in a more precarious situation than Mendy was.
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There are different kinds of bail. Some with conditions, others without.
We also dont know if the threats to kill were aimed at her.
The fact the police havent yet found grounds to charge him is certainly more positive than having already been charged.
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Whoever the threats to kill were made against, I am certain that a condition of his bail is to not make contact with them. Either way, its totally irrelevant to the discussion we were having. The fact that Greenwood hasn't been charged as yet isn't an indication either way as to whether he will be charged eventually. As demonstrated by how Mendy's situation has panned out. It could easily be that they are building a big case against him. And like Mendy, he might actually end up facing even more charges than the 4 he is currently suspected of.
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it is relevant. I was correct. You were not.
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No, its not relevant to the discussion we were having. Just another of your usual sidesteps when you realise your point is incorrect.
The fact that Greenwood hasn't been charged yet means nothing. It could mean that the police don't have enough evidence as yet to charge him. It could mean the the case they are building is complex. It could even mean that the case is getting bigger and additional charges are going to be brought. We have no idea. What we do know is that these cases do tend to drag out for a long time.
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The police cannot sit on charges if rhey have grounds to charge, irrespective if there investigation is ongoing.
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The Police will only bring charges once the CPS are satisfied as to whether or not the evidential test is met for each and every charge. He is facing the prospect of at least 4 charges. It could be more. It could be less. But the police won't and don't have to make a decision on which charges will be brought until they have investigated each of the potential charges.
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The police must charge when they have grounds, irrespesctive of other charges being investigated.
Ie, they wouldnt not charge him with assault whislt they investigated a threat to kill.
it doesnt even have to go to the CPS. The police can decide if they dont have grounds to continue investigating / charging.
Essentially, the police dont yet have sufficient grounds to charge or they would have.
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Genuine question here RDD but in your head is it everyone else marching out of step?
I do find people like you quite fascinating tbh.
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Less of the condescension please. Im correct here 👍🏻
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No, you're not.
Do you know what bail with literally no conditions is called? Nothing. Because there isnt anything.
Answer my original question please.
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Unconditional bail. Look it up.
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I don't need to. Bail in itself is a condition you utter mef.
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We were talking about specific restrictions.
It is possible to be bailed without restrictions / conditions.
I was right.
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They fact you have to return to the police station is a restriction. And that is without even taking into consideration the fact he is suspected of threatening to kill someone.
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You dont always HAVE to attend a station. You can just wait until you get called to court.
And what does visiting the police station restrict?
Anyway, il go with the legal definition rather than your attempts to wriggle out of your incorrect claims that all bail includes restrictions.
Bail in itself is a restriction. That's why it has it's own word. It's not even up for debate and you are talking utter nonsense.
Be amazed if he puts on a united shirt again. Would be a nightmare for sponsors even if it's 'just' a 5ex game where he threatens rape and bloodiest his Mrs. Even best case scenario is a bad scenario. Sponsors won't touch it with a barge pole and united revenues are in decline as it is
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Bail in itself is a restriction. That's why it has it's own word. It's not even up for debate and you are talking utter nonsense.
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Nobody was arguing he wasnt on bail.
The conversation was what if any restrictions are included within his bail.
I was right in that it isnt inevitable there are restrictions within his bail (beyond the obvious returning for questioning if required)
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So Mendy was arrested but then released without charge, until Aug 2021 when he was arrested again.
The relevence is, Greenwood will either be charged or released, as Mendy was.
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Nah that's not really how it works. Being released under investigation is relatively new and is used where the police don't feel that bail conditions are required. There is still a live investigation just as if you have been bailed. In Mason's case I would expect he was bailed due to concerns that he would try to intimidate Harriet and the police wanted those restrictions in place.
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We don't know there are any restrictions on him, although common sense would tell you to not make contact with the other party.
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He has been bailed - of course there are restrictions/conditions on him. That is the very purpose of bail as opposed to being released pending investigations.
The lad is suspected of threatening to kill Harriet. I am 99.99% sure that his bail conditions will specify that he cannot contact her. Carry on trying to pretend otherwise if you wish, but it would be absolutely mental if that isn't the case.
Either way, I am not really sure what point you think you are making anyway. We are discussing why the fact Mason hasn't yet been charged isn't necessarily a good thing for him. As we have seen with Mendy, the actual charges were not brought until a year after the initial arrest. The fact that one was released pending further investigations and the other bailed doesn't alter anything. It certainly doesn't go in Mason's favour, as the police clearly feel that the seriousness of the potential charges and evidence at hand means that Mason represents a threat to Harriet/the case. If anything, Mason being bailed rather than released pending further investigation points to him being in a more precarious situation than Mendy was.
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There are different kinds of bail. Some with conditions, others without.
We also dont know if the threats to kill were aimed at her.
The fact the police havent yet found grounds to charge him is certainly more positive than having already been charged.
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Whoever the threats to kill were made against, I am certain that a condition of his bail is to not make contact with them. Either way, its totally irrelevant to the discussion we were having. The fact that Greenwood hasn't been charged as yet isn't an indication either way as to whether he will be charged eventually. As demonstrated by how Mendy's situation has panned out. It could easily be that they are building a big case against him. And like Mendy, he might actually end up facing even more charges than the 4 he is currently suspected of.
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it is relevant. I was correct. You were not.
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No, its not relevant to the discussion we were having. Just another of your usual sidesteps when you realise your point is incorrect.
The fact that Greenwood hasn't been charged yet means nothing. It could mean that the police don't have enough evidence as yet to charge him. It could mean the the case they are building is complex. It could even mean that the case is getting bigger and additional charges are going to be brought. We have no idea. What we do know is that these cases do tend to drag out for a long time.
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The police cannot sit on charges if rhey have grounds to charge, irrespective if there investigation is ongoing.
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The Police will only bring charges once the CPS are satisfied as to whether or not the evidential test is met for each and every charge. He is facing the prospect of at least 4 charges. It could be more. It could be less. But the police won't and don't have to make a decision on which charges will be brought until they have investigated each of the potential charges.
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The police must charge when they have grounds, irrespesctive of other charges being investigated.
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I don't believe that is true at all. The police could for instance have enough evidence to give them a good chance of a conviction. Do they have to stop there? Or or they able to continue investigating to improve their case? Where is the tipping point? I doesn't make any sense at all. Especially if the charges are linked. And I would think eve more so if they are looking to prove controlling and coercive behavior, which links the charges even further.
The police must charge when they have grounds, irrespesctive of other charges being investigated.
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Also completely untrue.
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Bail in itself is a restriction. That's why it has it's own word. It's not even up for debate and you are talking utter nonsense.
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Nobody was arguing he wasnt on bail.
The conversation was what if any restrictions are included within his bail.
I was right in that it isnt inevitable there are restrictions within his bail (beyond the obvious returning for questioning if required)
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Do you think that Mason is currently allowed to contact the person that he allegedly threatened to kill?
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The police must charge when they have grounds, irrespesctive of other charges being investigated.
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Also completely untrue.
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Yeh, sounds utterly daft the more I think about it.
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The police must charge when they have grounds, irrespesctive of other charges being investigated.
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Also completely untrue.
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Yeh, sounds utterly daft the more I think about it.
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Wouldn't get very far with undercover operations would they.
RDD v elvis is definitely the new TOOR v Winston
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Grass is green.
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Good to smoke as well
Ultimately, sponsors are only concerned with what the watching audience think, and in this case, that is largely young / middle aged male United fans.
Are these people really going to stop using Teamviewer / DHL / Kohler if Greenwood apologises, gets educated and does some anti violence charity work?
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The police must charge when they have grounds, irrespesctive of other charges being investigated.
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Also completely untrue.
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it really isnt. Go and look at the CPS Legal guidance on charging.
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The police must charge when they have grounds, irrespesctive of other charges being investigated.
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Also completely untrue.
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it really isnt. Go and look at the CPS Legal guidance on charging.
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I don't need to. It's completely untrue.
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So Mendy was arrested but then released without charge, until Aug 2021 when he was arrested again.
The relevence is, Greenwood will either be charged or released, as Mendy was.
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Nah that's not really how it works. Being released under investigation is relatively new and is used where the police don't feel that bail conditions are required. There is still a live investigation just as if you have been bailed. In Mason's case I would expect he was bailed due to concerns that he would try to intimidate Harriet and the police wanted those restrictions in place.
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We don't know there are any restrictions on him, although common sense would tell you to not make contact with the other party.
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He has been bailed - of course there are restrictions/conditions on him. That is the very purpose of bail as opposed to being released pending investigations.
The lad is suspected of threatening to kill Harriet. I am 99.99% sure that his bail conditions will specify that he cannot contact her. Carry on trying to pretend otherwise if you wish, but it would be absolutely mental if that isn't the case.
Either way, I am not really sure what point you think you are making anyway. We are discussing why the fact Mason hasn't yet been charged isn't necessarily a good thing for him. As we have seen with Mendy, the actual charges were not brought until a year after the initial arrest. The fact that one was released pending further investigations and the other bailed doesn't alter anything. It certainly doesn't go in Mason's favour, as the police clearly feel that the seriousness of the potential charges and evidence at hand means that Mason represents a threat to Harriet/the case. If anything, Mason being bailed rather than released pending further investigation points to him being in a more precarious situation than Mendy was.
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There are different kinds of bail. Some with conditions, others without.
We also dont know if the threats to kill were aimed at her.
The fact the police havent yet found grounds to charge him is certainly more positive than having already been charged.
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Whoever the threats to kill were made against, I am certain that a condition of his bail is to not make contact with them. Either way, its totally irrelevant to the discussion we were having. The fact that Greenwood hasn't been charged as yet isn't an indication either way as to whether he will be charged eventually. As demonstrated by how Mendy's situation has panned out. It could easily be that they are building a big case against him. And like Mendy, he might actually end up facing even more charges than the 4 he is currently suspected of.
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it is relevant. I was correct. You were not.
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No, its not relevant to the discussion we were having. Just another of your usual sidesteps when you realise your point is incorrect.
The fact that Greenwood hasn't been charged yet means nothing. It could mean that the police don't have enough evidence as yet to charge him. It could mean the the case they are building is complex. It could even mean that the case is getting bigger and additional charges are going to be brought. We have no idea. What we do know is that these cases do tend to drag out for a long time.
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The police cannot sit on charges if rhey have grounds to charge, irrespective if there investigation is ongoing.
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The Police will only bring charges once the CPS are satisfied as to whether or not the evidential test is met for each and every charge. He is facing the prospect of at least 4 charges. It could be more. It could be less. But the police won't and don't have to make a decision on which charges will be brought until they have investigated each of the potential charges.
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The police must charge when they have grounds, irrespesctive of other charges being investigated.
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I don't believe that is true at all. The police could for instance have enough evidence to give them a good chance of a conviction. Do they have to stop there? Or or they able to continue investigating to improve their case? Where is the tipping point? I doesn't make any sense at all. Especially if the charges are linked. And I would think eve more so if they are looking to prove controlling and coercive behavior, which links the charges even further.
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If they grounds to charge, they should. Go and see the CPS legal guidance on charging.
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The police must charge when they have grounds, irrespesctive of other charges being investigated.
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Also completely untrue.
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it really isnt. Go and look at the CPS Legal guidance on charging.
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I don't need to. It's completely untrue.
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It isnt. No good sticking your head in the sand
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The police must charge when they have grounds, irrespesctive of other charges being investigated.
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Also completely untrue.
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Yeh, sounds utterly daft the more I think about it.
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Wouldn't get very far with undercover operations would they.
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Obviously they wouldnt if doing so would result in harm to an officer, but that isnt the case here is it.
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The police must charge when they have grounds, irrespesctive of other charges being investigated.
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Also completely untrue.
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Yeh, sounds utterly daft the more I think about it.
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Wouldn't get very far with undercover operations would they.
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Obviously they wouldnt if doing so would result in harm to an officer, but that isnt the case here is it.
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That's a weird way of saying 'actually I'm wrong again" but okay!
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Genuine question here RDD but in your head is it everyone else marching out of step?
I do find people like you quite fascinating tbh.
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Less of the condescension please. Im correct here 👍🏻
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No, you're not.
Do you know what bail with literally no conditions is called? Nothing. Because there isnt anything.
Answer my original question please.
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Unconditional bail. Look it up.
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I don't need to. Bail in itself is a condition you utter mef.
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Oh.
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Genuine question here RDD but in your head is it everyone else marching out of step?
I do find people like you quite fascinating tbh.
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Less of the condescension please. Im correct here 👍🏻
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No, you're not.
Do you know what bail with literally no conditions is called? Nothing. Because there isnt anything.
Answer my original question please.
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Unconditional bail. Look it up.
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I don't need to. Bail in itself is a condition you utter mef.
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We were talking about specific restrictions.
It is possible to be bailed without restrictions / conditions.
I was right.
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So Mendy was arrested but then released without charge, until Aug 2021 when he was arrested again.
The relevence is, Greenwood will either be charged or released, as Mendy was.
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Nah that's not really how it works. Being released under investigation is relatively new and is used where the police don't feel that bail conditions are required. There is still a live investigation just as if you have been bailed. In Mason's case I would expect he was bailed due to concerns that he would try to intimidate Harriet and the police wanted those restrictions in place.
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We don't know there are any restrictions on him, although common sense would tell you to not make contact with the other party.
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He has been bailed - of course there are restrictions/conditions on him. That is the very purpose of bail as opposed to being released pending investigations.
The lad is suspected of threatening to kill Harriet. I am 99.99% sure that his bail conditions will specify that he cannot contact her. Carry on trying to pretend otherwise if you wish, but it would be absolutely mental if that isn't the case.
Either way, I am not really sure what point you think you are making anyway. We are discussing why the fact Mason hasn't yet been charged isn't necessarily a good thing for him. As we have seen with Mendy, the actual charges were not brought until a year after the initial arrest. The fact that one was released pending further investigations and the other bailed doesn't alter anything. It certainly doesn't go in Mason's favour, as the police clearly feel that the seriousness of the potential charges and evidence at hand means that Mason represents a threat to Harriet/the case. If anything, Mason being bailed rather than released pending further investigation points to him being in a more precarious situation than Mendy was.
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There are different kinds of bail. Some with conditions, others without.
We also dont know if the threats to kill were aimed at her.
The fact the police havent yet found grounds to charge him is certainly more positive than having already been charged.
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Whoever the threats to kill were made against, I am certain that a condition of his bail is to not make contact with them. Either way, its totally irrelevant to the discussion we were having. The fact that Greenwood hasn't been charged as yet isn't an indication either way as to whether he will be charged eventually. As demonstrated by how Mendy's situation has panned out. It could easily be that they are building a big case against him. And like Mendy, he might actually end up facing even more charges than the 4 he is currently suspected of.
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it is relevant. I was correct. You were not.
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No, its not relevant to the discussion we were having. Just another of your usual sidesteps when you realise your point is incorrect.
The fact that Greenwood hasn't been charged yet means nothing. It could mean that the police don't have enough evidence as yet to charge him. It could mean the the case they are building is complex. It could even mean that the case is getting bigger and additional charges are going to be brought. We have no idea. What we do know is that these cases do tend to drag out for a long time.
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The police cannot sit on charges if rhey have grounds to charge, irrespective if there investigation is ongoing.
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The Police will only bring charges once the CPS are satisfied as to whether or not the evidential test is met for each and every charge. He is facing the prospect of at least 4 charges. It could be more. It could be less. But the police won't and don't have to make a decision on which charges will be brought until they have investigated each of the potential charges.
posted on 1/4/22
comment by Don (U22703)
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Genuine question here RDD but in your head is it everyone else marching out of step?
I do find people like you quite fascinating tbh.
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Less of the condescension please. Im correct here 👍🏻
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No, you're not.
Do you know what bail with literally no conditions is called? Nothing. Because there isnt anything.
Answer my original question please.
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Unconditional bail. Look it up.
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I don't need to. Bail in itself is a condition you utter mef.
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We were talking about specific restrictions.
It is possible to be bailed without restrictions / conditions.
I was right.
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They fact you have to return to the police station is a restriction. And that is without even taking into consideration the fact he is suspected of threatening to kill someone.
posted on 1/4/22
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
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So Mendy was arrested but then released without charge, until Aug 2021 when he was arrested again.
The relevence is, Greenwood will either be charged or released, as Mendy was.
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Nah that's not really how it works. Being released under investigation is relatively new and is used where the police don't feel that bail conditions are required. There is still a live investigation just as if you have been bailed. In Mason's case I would expect he was bailed due to concerns that he would try to intimidate Harriet and the police wanted those restrictions in place.
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We don't know there are any restrictions on him, although common sense would tell you to not make contact with the other party.
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He has been bailed - of course there are restrictions/conditions on him. That is the very purpose of bail as opposed to being released pending investigations.
The lad is suspected of threatening to kill Harriet. I am 99.99% sure that his bail conditions will specify that he cannot contact her. Carry on trying to pretend otherwise if you wish, but it would be absolutely mental if that isn't the case.
Either way, I am not really sure what point you think you are making anyway. We are discussing why the fact Mason hasn't yet been charged isn't necessarily a good thing for him. As we have seen with Mendy, the actual charges were not brought until a year after the initial arrest. The fact that one was released pending further investigations and the other bailed doesn't alter anything. It certainly doesn't go in Mason's favour, as the police clearly feel that the seriousness of the potential charges and evidence at hand means that Mason represents a threat to Harriet/the case. If anything, Mason being bailed rather than released pending further investigation points to him being in a more precarious situation than Mendy was.
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There are different kinds of bail. Some with conditions, others without.
We also dont know if the threats to kill were aimed at her.
The fact the police havent yet found grounds to charge him is certainly more positive than having already been charged.
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Whoever the threats to kill were made against, I am certain that a condition of his bail is to not make contact with them. Either way, its totally irrelevant to the discussion we were having. The fact that Greenwood hasn't been charged as yet isn't an indication either way as to whether he will be charged eventually. As demonstrated by how Mendy's situation has panned out. It could easily be that they are building a big case against him. And like Mendy, he might actually end up facing even more charges than the 4 he is currently suspected of.
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it is relevant. I was correct. You were not.
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No, its not relevant to the discussion we were having. Just another of your usual sidesteps when you realise your point is incorrect.
The fact that Greenwood hasn't been charged yet means nothing. It could mean that the police don't have enough evidence as yet to charge him. It could mean the the case they are building is complex. It could even mean that the case is getting bigger and additional charges are going to be brought. We have no idea. What we do know is that these cases do tend to drag out for a long time.
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The police cannot sit on charges if rhey have grounds to charge, irrespective if there investigation is ongoing.
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The Police will only bring charges once the CPS are satisfied as to whether or not the evidential test is met for each and every charge. He is facing the prospect of at least 4 charges. It could be more. It could be less. But the police won't and don't have to make a decision on which charges will be brought until they have investigated each of the potential charges.
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The police must charge when they have grounds, irrespesctive of other charges being investigated.
Ie, they wouldnt not charge him with assault whislt they investigated a threat to kill.
it doesnt even have to go to the CPS. The police can decide if they dont have grounds to continue investigating / charging.
Essentially, the police dont yet have sufficient grounds to charge or they would have.
posted on 1/4/22
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
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comment by Don (U22703)
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comment by Don (U22703)
posted 2 minutes ago
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posted 37 minutes ago
Genuine question here RDD but in your head is it everyone else marching out of step?
I do find people like you quite fascinating tbh.
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Less of the condescension please. Im correct here 👍🏻
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No, you're not.
Do you know what bail with literally no conditions is called? Nothing. Because there isnt anything.
Answer my original question please.
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Unconditional bail. Look it up.
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I don't need to. Bail in itself is a condition you utter mef.
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We were talking about specific restrictions.
It is possible to be bailed without restrictions / conditions.
I was right.
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They fact you have to return to the police station is a restriction. And that is without even taking into consideration the fact he is suspected of threatening to kill someone.
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You dont always HAVE to attend a station. You can just wait until you get called to court.
And what does visiting the police station restrict?
Anyway, il go with the legal definition rather than your attempts to wriggle out of your incorrect claims that all bail includes restrictions.
posted on 1/4/22
Bail in itself is a restriction. That's why it has it's own word. It's not even up for debate and you are talking utter nonsense.
posted on 1/4/22
Be amazed if he puts on a united shirt again. Would be a nightmare for sponsors even if it's 'just' a 5ex game where he threatens rape and bloodiest his Mrs. Even best case scenario is a bad scenario. Sponsors won't touch it with a barge pole and united revenues are in decline as it is
posted on 1/4/22
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 6 minutes ago
Bail in itself is a restriction. That's why it has it's own word. It's not even up for debate and you are talking utter nonsense.
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Nobody was arguing he wasnt on bail.
The conversation was what if any restrictions are included within his bail.
I was right in that it isnt inevitable there are restrictions within his bail (beyond the obvious returning for questioning if required)
posted on 1/4/22
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comment by Don (U22703)
posted 22 seconds ago
So Mendy was arrested but then released without charge, until Aug 2021 when he was arrested again.
The relevence is, Greenwood will either be charged or released, as Mendy was.
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Nah that's not really how it works. Being released under investigation is relatively new and is used where the police don't feel that bail conditions are required. There is still a live investigation just as if you have been bailed. In Mason's case I would expect he was bailed due to concerns that he would try to intimidate Harriet and the police wanted those restrictions in place.
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We don't know there are any restrictions on him, although common sense would tell you to not make contact with the other party.
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He has been bailed - of course there are restrictions/conditions on him. That is the very purpose of bail as opposed to being released pending investigations.
The lad is suspected of threatening to kill Harriet. I am 99.99% sure that his bail conditions will specify that he cannot contact her. Carry on trying to pretend otherwise if you wish, but it would be absolutely mental if that isn't the case.
Either way, I am not really sure what point you think you are making anyway. We are discussing why the fact Mason hasn't yet been charged isn't necessarily a good thing for him. As we have seen with Mendy, the actual charges were not brought until a year after the initial arrest. The fact that one was released pending further investigations and the other bailed doesn't alter anything. It certainly doesn't go in Mason's favour, as the police clearly feel that the seriousness of the potential charges and evidence at hand means that Mason represents a threat to Harriet/the case. If anything, Mason being bailed rather than released pending further investigation points to him being in a more precarious situation than Mendy was.
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There are different kinds of bail. Some with conditions, others without.
We also dont know if the threats to kill were aimed at her.
The fact the police havent yet found grounds to charge him is certainly more positive than having already been charged.
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Whoever the threats to kill were made against, I am certain that a condition of his bail is to not make contact with them. Either way, its totally irrelevant to the discussion we were having. The fact that Greenwood hasn't been charged as yet isn't an indication either way as to whether he will be charged eventually. As demonstrated by how Mendy's situation has panned out. It could easily be that they are building a big case against him. And like Mendy, he might actually end up facing even more charges than the 4 he is currently suspected of.
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it is relevant. I was correct. You were not.
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No, its not relevant to the discussion we were having. Just another of your usual sidesteps when you realise your point is incorrect.
The fact that Greenwood hasn't been charged yet means nothing. It could mean that the police don't have enough evidence as yet to charge him. It could mean the the case they are building is complex. It could even mean that the case is getting bigger and additional charges are going to be brought. We have no idea. What we do know is that these cases do tend to drag out for a long time.
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The police cannot sit on charges if rhey have grounds to charge, irrespective if there investigation is ongoing.
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The Police will only bring charges once the CPS are satisfied as to whether or not the evidential test is met for each and every charge. He is facing the prospect of at least 4 charges. It could be more. It could be less. But the police won't and don't have to make a decision on which charges will be brought until they have investigated each of the potential charges.
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The police must charge when they have grounds, irrespesctive of other charges being investigated.
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I don't believe that is true at all. The police could for instance have enough evidence to give them a good chance of a conviction. Do they have to stop there? Or or they able to continue investigating to improve their case? Where is the tipping point? I doesn't make any sense at all. Especially if the charges are linked. And I would think eve more so if they are looking to prove controlling and coercive behavior, which links the charges even further.
posted on 1/4/22
The police must charge when they have grounds, irrespesctive of other charges being investigated.
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Also completely untrue.
posted on 1/4/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 6 minutes ago
Bail in itself is a restriction. That's why it has it's own word. It's not even up for debate and you are talking utter nonsense.
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Nobody was arguing he wasnt on bail.
The conversation was what if any restrictions are included within his bail.
I was right in that it isnt inevitable there are restrictions within his bail (beyond the obvious returning for questioning if required)
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Do you think that Mason is currently allowed to contact the person that he allegedly threatened to kill?
posted on 1/4/22
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 13 seconds ago
The police must charge when they have grounds, irrespesctive of other charges being investigated.
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Also completely untrue.
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Yeh, sounds utterly daft the more I think about it.
posted on 1/4/22
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 13 seconds ago
The police must charge when they have grounds, irrespesctive of other charges being investigated.
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Also completely untrue.
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Yeh, sounds utterly daft the more I think about it.
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Wouldn't get very far with undercover operations would they.
posted on 1/4/22
RDD v elvis is definitely the new TOOR v Winston
posted on 1/4/22
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
Grass is green.
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Good to smoke as well
posted on 1/4/22
Ultimately, sponsors are only concerned with what the watching audience think, and in this case, that is largely young / middle aged male United fans.
Are these people really going to stop using Teamviewer / DHL / Kohler if Greenwood apologises, gets educated and does some anti violence charity work?
posted on 1/4/22
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 8 minutes ago
The police must charge when they have grounds, irrespesctive of other charges being investigated.
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Also completely untrue.
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it really isnt. Go and look at the CPS Legal guidance on charging.
posted on 1/4/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 8 minutes ago
The police must charge when they have grounds, irrespesctive of other charges being investigated.
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Also completely untrue.
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it really isnt. Go and look at the CPS Legal guidance on charging.
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I don't need to. It's completely untrue.
posted on 1/4/22
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 11 minutes ago
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posted 6 hours, 5 minutes ago
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posted 7 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 22 seconds ago
So Mendy was arrested but then released without charge, until Aug 2021 when he was arrested again.
The relevence is, Greenwood will either be charged or released, as Mendy was.
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Nah that's not really how it works. Being released under investigation is relatively new and is used where the police don't feel that bail conditions are required. There is still a live investigation just as if you have been bailed. In Mason's case I would expect he was bailed due to concerns that he would try to intimidate Harriet and the police wanted those restrictions in place.
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We don't know there are any restrictions on him, although common sense would tell you to not make contact with the other party.
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He has been bailed - of course there are restrictions/conditions on him. That is the very purpose of bail as opposed to being released pending investigations.
The lad is suspected of threatening to kill Harriet. I am 99.99% sure that his bail conditions will specify that he cannot contact her. Carry on trying to pretend otherwise if you wish, but it would be absolutely mental if that isn't the case.
Either way, I am not really sure what point you think you are making anyway. We are discussing why the fact Mason hasn't yet been charged isn't necessarily a good thing for him. As we have seen with Mendy, the actual charges were not brought until a year after the initial arrest. The fact that one was released pending further investigations and the other bailed doesn't alter anything. It certainly doesn't go in Mason's favour, as the police clearly feel that the seriousness of the potential charges and evidence at hand means that Mason represents a threat to Harriet/the case. If anything, Mason being bailed rather than released pending further investigation points to him being in a more precarious situation than Mendy was.
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There are different kinds of bail. Some with conditions, others without.
We also dont know if the threats to kill were aimed at her.
The fact the police havent yet found grounds to charge him is certainly more positive than having already been charged.
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Whoever the threats to kill were made against, I am certain that a condition of his bail is to not make contact with them. Either way, its totally irrelevant to the discussion we were having. The fact that Greenwood hasn't been charged as yet isn't an indication either way as to whether he will be charged eventually. As demonstrated by how Mendy's situation has panned out. It could easily be that they are building a big case against him. And like Mendy, he might actually end up facing even more charges than the 4 he is currently suspected of.
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it is relevant. I was correct. You were not.
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No, its not relevant to the discussion we were having. Just another of your usual sidesteps when you realise your point is incorrect.
The fact that Greenwood hasn't been charged yet means nothing. It could mean that the police don't have enough evidence as yet to charge him. It could mean the the case they are building is complex. It could even mean that the case is getting bigger and additional charges are going to be brought. We have no idea. What we do know is that these cases do tend to drag out for a long time.
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The police cannot sit on charges if rhey have grounds to charge, irrespective if there investigation is ongoing.
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The Police will only bring charges once the CPS are satisfied as to whether or not the evidential test is met for each and every charge. He is facing the prospect of at least 4 charges. It could be more. It could be less. But the police won't and don't have to make a decision on which charges will be brought until they have investigated each of the potential charges.
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The police must charge when they have grounds, irrespesctive of other charges being investigated.
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I don't believe that is true at all. The police could for instance have enough evidence to give them a good chance of a conviction. Do they have to stop there? Or or they able to continue investigating to improve their case? Where is the tipping point? I doesn't make any sense at all. Especially if the charges are linked. And I would think eve more so if they are looking to prove controlling and coercive behavior, which links the charges even further.
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If they grounds to charge, they should. Go and see the CPS legal guidance on charging.
posted on 1/4/22
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 8 minutes ago
The police must charge when they have grounds, irrespesctive of other charges being investigated.
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Also completely untrue.
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it really isnt. Go and look at the CPS Legal guidance on charging.
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I don't need to. It's completely untrue.
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It isnt. No good sticking your head in the sand
posted on 1/4/22
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 13 seconds ago
The police must charge when they have grounds, irrespesctive of other charges being investigated.
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Also completely untrue.
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Yeh, sounds utterly daft the more I think about it.
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Wouldn't get very far with undercover operations would they.
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Obviously they wouldnt if doing so would result in harm to an officer, but that isnt the case here is it.
posted on 1/4/22
comment by Don (U22703)
posted 58 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 13 seconds ago
The police must charge when they have grounds, irrespesctive of other charges being investigated.
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Also completely untrue.
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Yeh, sounds utterly daft the more I think about it.
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Wouldn't get very far with undercover operations would they.
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Obviously they wouldnt if doing so would result in harm to an officer, but that isnt the case here is it.
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That's a weird way of saying 'actually I'm wrong again" but okay!
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