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Will Tottenham finish above Liverpool?

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posted on 9/7/22

comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Sir Bob..... "Glory to Ukraine!" - &... (U3823)
posted 6 hours, 52 minutes ago
'Will Tottenham finish above Liverpool?'



Yes i am sure that this will happen.






Just probably not in my lifetime



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So what are you like four years old then? If you are 10 or over it would have already have happened five times in your lifetime.
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Oh dear sad sandy needs an English Language lesson it seems.

The question was 'WILL Tottenham finish above Liverpool?'

It wasn't 'HAVE Tottenham finished above Liverpool?'

Do grow up there's a good lad.


posted on 9/7/22

City will do well to get 25 league games out of Haaland and losing Sterling is a big miss for them for a number of reasons, in part that he is always fit and is versatile.

Phillips is no great shakes either and isn't better than Rodri anyway.

posted on 9/7/22

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Mellor, Lovely Cushioned Header, FOR GERRARD, ... (U1859)
posted 16 minutes ago
Devonshire, ive certainly not played down manes departure, if you scroll back through the mane leaving articles that were around you will see my comments outlining how big a miss he will be. For what its worth I also think haaland will be a superstar in this league.

I thought you were finally on the right tracks there, you said "in your opinion" city will be much better and we will be much weaker, fsir enough if thats your opinion. Then you went on to say city are now miles ahead which again is nothing more than hypothetical nonesense. Reality is we have to wait and see how the players adapt and how both teams adjust to a tweak in their normal styles.

Just because a player with a rep comes in or goes out is no guarentee of anything. Everyone said we were finished when countinho left and we "overspent" on van dijk. 4 months later we were in a champs league final.
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to be clear I haven't said you'll be much weaker, just weaker. Your form this season was exceptional and I don't think you will repeat it. I think there is logic in my reasoning,as explained. With the addition of Halaand and Phillips I think City are stronger again.

I did say they'll be way ahead, and that is perhaps a bit ott but relatively speaking 6 -9 points difference when you already hitting 90 points or more is a big difference and I think they'll win the league by that much.

Call it hypothetical if you want, but its a but pointless to dismiss things as this as that just shuts down conversation on how a season might pan out.

Saying IF Halaand doesnt quite work out and IF Nunez is awesome is also hypothetical but I have given my reasons why the reverse is more likely, based on some pretty obvious observations.

Don't expect a lfc fan to agree with me, that's how I see it and I don't think I'm being wild in my judgement.

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You’re basically working the broken clock theory.

posted on 9/7/22

comment by SteveF (U22027)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by Sir Bob..... "Glory to Ukraine!" - "Glory to the heroes!" (U3823)
posted 6 hours, 39 minutes ago
'Will Tottenham finish above Liverpool?'



Yes i am sure that this will happen.






Just probably not in my lifetime



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Is
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Apart from attempting the dramatic effect ( that ain't working ) does it ever occur to you that when Spurs do finish above Liverpool ( and it's not as if that never happens - try 8 times in the last 13 seasons ) you pal, will look even more stupid that you sound.

Yeah, that's right, 8 out of 13 seasons. Try looking it up. If fact, from 2009/10 to 2017/18, Spurs finished about your wonderful Liverpool 8 out of 9 seasons.

Surprisingly football didn't start in 2018/19 when your team started to compete with City, any more than football did not start in 1992 when Sky came along.

And Liverpool won't be up there with City forever. Like all phases of dominance, it will end sooner or later. Just ask Utd fans.
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I'm quite clearly more capable than you of writing properly.

And yes it was for dramatic effect (and actually it's working just fine thanks)

And as long as I don't ever come on here and look or sound as stupid as you then that'll do for me thanks.

Oh and try looking up the phrase tongue-in-cheek, I don't hold hold out much hope of you ever being fully educated to a decent level but it'll be just a little step forward for you.


Okay pal.

comment by Neo (U9135)

posted on 9/7/22

comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 8 hours, 51 minutes ago
comment by KissDoughBear (U20930)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 27 minutes ago
This is hilarious. Will be a good article to revisit some nutcase opinions at the end of next season. Some Spurs fans on here, you gotta love them.
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Genuinely the stupidest thing anyone has written on this thread was you saying that son "might" get into Liverpool's starting eleven .
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I thought it was having Gomez in his team over Romero. But I thought it had to be a WUM cos nobody is that stupid.
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Romero doesn’t make a combined team by the way. Matip and Konate both better than him. Considerably in my opinion.

posted on 9/7/22

Haaland, Alvarez and Phillips in.

Jesus, Sterling and Fernandinho out as things stand.

I'm not sure you can make a case that City have massively improved so far based on that.

Haaland is probably going to be world class so should be an upgrade but he also has injury issues. Sterling and Jesus, whilst worse players, knew the system inside out and Sterling in particular will be a big miss given he regularly scored 15+ a season.

They're basically selling 25 goals a season and bringing in what they hope will be 30/35.

posted on 9/7/22

I should imagine l will be along soon to change TFA to reflect something positive towards Maureen based on the votes already cast.

posted on 9/7/22

Tbf it’s hard for City to massively improve, they are already ridiculous. It’s about maintaining standards really.

Next season is hard to predict because of the world cup. I did fancy Liverpool to win it because not many of their team will play regularly at the world cup, but that was before Mane left - I think his importance is being underplayed, particularly when it comes to the big games where he’s usually the key performer in Liverpool’s attack.

posted on 9/7/22

comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Tbf it’s hard for City to massively improve, they are already ridiculous. It’s about maintaining standards really.

Next season is hard to predict because of the world cup. I did fancy Liverpool to win it because not many of their team will play regularly at the world cup, but that was before Mane left - I think his importance is being underplayed, particularly when it comes to the big games where he’s usually the key performer in Liverpool’s attack.
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I think we’re relying on Diaz stepping up and adding goals to his already impressive all round play. Added to that, with Salah having a full summer off and his contract situation sorted, Klopp will be hoping for the Salah from the first half of last season. I’m intrigued by how Klopp is going to tweak things to accommodate Nunez. It might not need to be as big a change as some may think, just a case of us being able to make better use of all the crosses that Robbo and Trent put in.

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted on 9/7/22

Both Liverpool and City have dropped off slightly from the levels they were at a couple of years ago when they were getting near 100 points. For City their signings may get them back up there, but for Liverpool losing Mane and relying on someone new to the PL, I think it's too much to ask they'll get back up there next season. I wouldn't be surprised to see their points tally fall somewhere between 80 and 90 points.

posted on 9/7/22

I get that, but it’s difficult to do. Not just on an individual basis but also in terms of the chemistry Mane had with the rest of the team. The latter is what has made Liverpool so good, these players have been playing together for years.

posted on 9/7/22

I'm more than happy with Salah, Jota, Diaz, Nunez and Firmino. I don't think we'll be struggling for goals anyway.

posted on 9/7/22

comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 8 hours, 51 minutes ago
comment by KissDoughBear (U20930)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 27 minutes ago
This is hilarious. Will be a good article to revisit some nutcase opinions at the end of next season. Some Spurs fans on here, you gotta love them.
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Genuinely the stupidest thing anyone has written on this thread was you saying that son "might" get into Liverpool's starting eleven .
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I thought it was having Gomez in his team over Romero. But I thought it had to be a WUM cos nobody is that stupid.
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Romero doesn’t make a combined team by the way. Matip and Konate both better than him. Considerably in my opinion.
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The fact you added considerably I can’t take that seriously

Romero is the best centre back we have since prime Toby ….potentially better

He was voted the best defender in Italy the season before we signed him

Fair enough it’s your opinion by they aren’t better than Romero and certainly not considerably

Romero , Kane and son would get in a combined 11 and anything else is just bias

I like matip by the way ….Konate looks s bit clumsy when I’ve seen him play but it’s only been a few times so maybe he is better then what I’ve seen

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted on 9/7/22

I forgot they have lost Origi too. Make that between 70-80 points that their points total will be.

posted on 9/7/22

Origi played 121 minutes of Prem football last season. I reckon we'll cope.

posted on 9/7/22

comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 6 minutes ago
I'm more than happy with Salah, Jota, Diaz, Nunez and Firmino. I don't think we'll be struggling for goals anyway.
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Probably not overall. But I think Mane raises Liverpool’s performance levels and that may cost them a few points over the season.

posted on 9/7/22

comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 6 minutes ago
Both Liverpool and City have dropped off slightly from the levels they were at a couple of years ago when they were getting near 100 points. For City their signings may get them back up there, but for Liverpool losing Mane and relying on someone new to the PL, I think it's too much to ask they'll get back up there next season. I wouldn't be surprised to see their points tally fall somewhere between 80 and 90 points.
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It’s bizarre how you say Liverpool will drop off because of changes made, but City won’t. You do realise that Haaland has never played in the PL either? Just because he’s at a higher level than Nunez on arrival here doesn’t guarantee anything. There are numerous world class players who have come and done little in the prem.

posted on 9/7/22

comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 6 minutes ago
I'm more than happy with Salah, Jota, Diaz, Nunez and Firmino. I don't think we'll be struggling for goals anyway.
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Probably not overall. But I think Mane raises Liverpool’s performance levels and that may cost them a few points over the season.
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In the second half of last season yeah. Before that he'd had a pretty poor previous 12 months. Plenty on here (not you) said he was finished and declining.

You're right though, he loves a big goal especially against City, we'll just have to see on that one. He has insane movement and a top attitude but in terms of all round play he only got 2 assists last season and has never chipped in with many.

It's a bit of an unknown atm. It wouldn't surprise me if Nunez ripped it up giving our record of signings under Klopp.

posted on 9/7/22

Assists aren’t everything, though. I think Mane helps others in the Liverpool team play better with his link up play and movement. And he just had a habit of being decisive in big moments to win Liverpool matches.

It doesn’t need to be a significant drop off for Liverpool to start posting a more normal points total either (I think we could see similar with City).

When we sold Ronaldo we actually score lots more goals than following season, but had five points few because we lost the player that was decisive in the big moments - even if we smashed more teams we were meant to beat.

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted on 9/7/22

comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 6 minutes ago
Both Liverpool and City have dropped off slightly from the levels they were at a couple of years ago when they were getting near 100 points. For City their signings may get them back up there, but for Liverpool losing Mane and relying on someone new to the PL, I think it's too much to ask they'll get back up there next season. I wouldn't be surprised to see their points tally fall somewhere between 80 and 90 points.
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It’s bizarre how you say Liverpool will drop off because of changes made, but City won’t. You do realise that Haaland has never played in the PL either? Just because he’s at a higher level than Nunez on arrival here doesn’t guarantee anything. There are numerous world class players who have come and done little in the prem.
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There are never any guarantees but you go with what is likely, and that would be Haaland, given he has had a 1 in 1 strike record at every level in the past few years, carrying that on, in a team that will provide him plenty of chances.

Also Pep has shown he copes better with losing players than Klopp does. They still won the league with almost 100 points when KDB was out injured. I don't think Klopp would cope as well if someone as key as that was out for him.

posted on 9/7/22

comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 6 minutes ago
Both Liverpool and City have dropped off slightly from the levels they were at a couple of years ago when they were getting near 100 points. For City their signings may get them back up there, but for Liverpool losing Mane and relying on someone new to the PL, I think it's too much to ask they'll get back up there next season. I wouldn't be surprised to see their points tally fall somewhere between 80 and 90 points.
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It’s bizarre how you say Liverpool will drop off because of changes made, but City won’t. You do realise that Haaland has never played in the PL either? Just because he’s at a higher level than Nunez on arrival here doesn’t guarantee anything. There are numerous world class players who have come and done little in the prem.
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There are never any guarantees but you go with what is likely, and that would be Haaland, given he has had a 1 in 1 strike record at every level in the past few years, carrying that on, in a team that will provide him plenty of chances.

Also Pep has shown he copes better with losing players than Klopp does. They still won the league with almost 100 points when KDB was out injured. I don't think Klopp would cope as well if someone as key as that was out for him.
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You’re just making a whole heap of assumptions to suit your argument. You state as fact that Klopp doesn’t cope with losing players as well as Pep, then say you ‘don’t think’ he would. That’s just baseless.

posted on 9/7/22

comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 37 minutes ago
I forgot they have lost Origi too. Make that between 70-80 points that their points total will be.
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so you think you’re going finish above us

posted on 9/7/22

Diaz came into the side last season taking Mane’s position and matched Mane’s goal contributions per minute over the season in a new team and league.
Diaz will be fine and I predict will contribute more goal contributions than Mane did this past season.

I expect Nunez to be eased in but expect around 20 goals/assists next season which again is more that Mane last season.

Another season of plenty of goals for us


posted on 9/7/22

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 3 hours, 4 minutes ago
comment by Mellor, Lovely Cushioned Header, FOR GERRARD, ... (U1859)
posted 16 minutes ago
Devonshire, ive certainly not played down manes departure, if you scroll back through the mane leaving articles that were around you will see my comments outlining how big a miss he will be. For what its worth I also think haaland will be a superstar in this league.

I thought you were finally on the right tracks there, you said "in your opinion" city will be much better and we will be much weaker, fsir enough if thats your opinion. Then you went on to say city are now miles ahead which again is nothing more than hypothetical nonesense. Reality is we have to wait and see how the players adapt and how both teams adjust to a tweak in their normal styles.

Just because a player with a rep comes in or goes out is no guarentee of anything. Everyone said we were finished when countinho left and we "overspent" on van dijk. 4 months later we were in a champs league final.
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to be clear I haven't said you'll be much weaker, just weaker. Your form this season was exceptional and I don't think you will repeat it. I think there is logic in my reasoning,as explained. With the addition of Halaand and Phillips I think City are stronger again.

I did say they'll be way ahead, and that is perhaps a bit ott but relatively speaking 6 -9 points difference when you already hitting 90 points or more is a big difference and I think they'll win the league by that much.

Call it hypothetical if you want, but its a but pointless to dismiss things as this as that just shuts down conversation on how a season might pan out.

Saying IF Halaand doesnt quite work out and IF Nunez is awesome is also hypothetical but I have given my reasons why the reverse is more likely, based on some pretty obvious observations.

Don't expect a lfc fan to agree with me, that's how I see it and I don't think I'm being wild in my judgement.

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No im absolutely fine with that. Its all opinions, no issue you voicing it and can see your logic. I just had issue with the sweeping statement that they will be miles ahead 👍.

Personally I dont think much will separate us at all. Head would say city just but il always back my team as I did before a ball was kicked last season.

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted on 9/7/22

comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 6 minutes ago
Both Liverpool and City have dropped off slightly from the levels they were at a couple of years ago when they were getting near 100 points. For City their signings may get them back up there, but for Liverpool losing Mane and relying on someone new to the PL, I think it's too much to ask they'll get back up there next season. I wouldn't be surprised to see their points tally fall somewhere between 80 and 90 points.
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It’s bizarre how you say Liverpool will drop off because of changes made, but City won’t. You do realise that Haaland has never played in the PL either? Just because he’s at a higher level than Nunez on arrival here doesn’t guarantee anything. There are numerous world class players who have come and done little in the prem.
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There are never any guarantees but you go with what is likely, and that would be Haaland, given he has had a 1 in 1 strike record at every level in the past few years, carrying that on, in a team that will provide him plenty of chances.

Also Pep has shown he copes better with losing players than Klopp does. They still won the league with almost 100 points when KDB was out injured. I don't think Klopp would cope as well if someone as key as that was out for him.
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You’re just making a whole heap of assumptions to suit your argument. You state as fact that Klopp doesn’t cope with losing players as well as Pep, then say you ‘don’t think’ he would. That’s just baseless.
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Well when they had all the injury problems Klopp barely scraped into the top 4. He needed the keeper of all players to score a winning goal. It's not exactly baseless is it. Pep has proven to be more wily in managing his team to success, as proven with more titles since they've both been competing with one another.

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