comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 30 minutes ago
Why is it that Spurs fans have already decided they will be 10-15 points better off next season, may I ask.
Just because they have signed some players, is that it? That's not how it works.
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1. We had a crap manager for the first 10 games last season
2. We now have a fantastic manager who av. 2 pts a game despite coming in mid season
3. We sustained excellent form at the end of last season, almost matching LFC & Citys, so have clearly improved and become more consistent
4. We have added depth and quality and experience to the squad, improving it in multiple areas, giving us a better chance of achieving consistency
Type of wum sharticle Wahl does...He lights the fuse between Liverpool and Spurs fans, and gently blends into background while having a good laugh....
Working imo
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 26 seconds ago
Yeah, I deliberately ignored it because people were using Nuno as a reason as to why you'll end up with more points, so I used Conte's record since he started.
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So you wouldn't proceed to eliminate the teething process & the part where he actually got to bring his own players in?
So I'm guessing when Klopp came in and averaged 1.67 points in his first season. You expected him to do the same thing in the 16/17 season and finish up on 63 points?
Cmon, surely you are not that dense?
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Nope, but using a "since January ppg" as a guide for next season is just utter nonsense really.
It reminds me of when United fans created the "since Bruno Fernandes signed" premier league table, equally cringeworthy.
If you want to believe it is though, go for it. I mean if we use purely since January 2022, form you can expect Liverpool to go unbeaten next season if that's the case. We all know it won't happen though.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 30 minutes ago
Why is it that Spurs fans have already decided they will be 10-15 points better off next season, may I ask.
Just because they have signed some players, is that it? That's not how it works.
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1. We had a crap manager for the first 10 games last season
2. We now have a fantastic manager who av. 2 pts a game despite coming in mid season
3. We sustained excellent form at the end of last season, almost matching LFC & Citys, so have clearly improved and become more consistent
4. We have added depth and quality and experience to the squad, improving it in multiple areas, giving us a better chance of achieving consistency
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Cone didn't have pre-season as well!
Wahl should be concerned about whether Chelsea can get 3rd again.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 30 minutes ago
Why is it that Spurs fans have already decided they will be 10-15 points better off next season, may I ask.
Just because they have signed some players, is that it? That's not how it works.
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1. We had a crap manager for the first 10 games last season
2. We now have a fantastic manager who av. 2 pts a game despite coming in mid season
3. We sustained excellent form at the end of last season, almost matching LFC & Citys, so have clearly improved and become more consistent
4. We have added depth and quality and experience to the squad, improving it in multiple areas, giving us a better chance of achieving consistency
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2 points a game gets you 76 points.... We got 92 last year....
The fact you had excellent form and still couldn't compete with LFC and City should surely tell you something?
You've added three players... Only one of whom I believe will impact you.
Let's be honest, it'll take a pretty big collapse from LFC to be battling with Spurs in the league table, no chance in hell Spurs are getting near 90 points.
Why is it nonsense? Also "cringeworthy" - come off it how hysterical can you get when challenged
I believe, that with time and the right signings we will imrpove significantly under Conte. This is based on all the historical evidence that we have to justify this (+ him being one of the best managers in the world when it comes to league football) - also the fact that we have signed well and will likely be out of the cups (also based on historical evidence).
If you find that surprising then thats cool, but I remember a similar article with all the same Liverpool "fans" acting equally as outrageoud when there was a debate last January as to who would score more goals Kane or Jota.
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 1 minute ago
Why is it nonsense? Also "cringeworthy" - come off ithow hysterical can you get when challenged
I believe, that with time and the right signings we will imrpove significantly under Conte. This is based on all the historical evidence that we have to justify this (+ him being one of the best managers in the world when it comes to league football) - also the fact that we have signed well and will likely be out of the cups (also based on historical evidence).
If you find that surprising then thats cool, but I remember a similar article with all the same Liverpool "fans" acting equally as outrageoud when there was a debate last January as to who would score more goals Kane or Jota.
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Kane or Jota?
Well what about if we just pick an arbitrary period of the year when Jota outscored Kane? That's how Spurs fans operate...
I said it before, I'd never rule out Spurs finishing ahead of us, but Bissouma, Perisic and Richarlison are not getting you to 90 points when you have a European competition to fight, I expect 80 to be an excellent season for Spurs.
Meanwhile we've had 90 points plus in 3 of the last 4 seasons....
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 26 seconds ago
Yeah, I deliberately ignored it because people were using Nuno as a reason as to why you'll end up with more points, so I used Conte's record since he started.
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So you wouldn't proceed to eliminate the teething process & the part where he actually got to bring his own players in?
So I'm guessing when Klopp came in and averaged 1.67 points in his first season. You expected him to do the same thing in the 16/17 season and finish up on 63 points?
Cmon, surely you are not that dense?
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Nope, but using a "since January ppg" as a guide for next season is just utter nonsense really.
It reminds me of when United fans created the "since Bruno Fernandes signed" premier league table, equally cringeworthy.
If you want to believe it is though, go for it. I mean if we use purely since January 2022, form you can expect Liverpool to go unbeaten next season if that's the case. We all know it won't happen though.
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I think he is that dense.
Bruno was one player, who made a difference, but lets face it they still had Ole at the Wheel, the ceiling is limited.
From Feb onwards Spurs had 2 new faces in, the return of Romero and with every passing day more time on the training pitch with Conte.
Funnily enough the results and the consistency got better and better
comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 1 minute ago
Why is it nonsense? Also "cringeworthy" - come off ithow hysterical can you get when challenged
I believe, that with time and the right signings we will imrpove significantly under Conte. This is based on all the historical evidence that we have to justify this (+ him being one of the best managers in the world when it comes to league football) - also the fact that we have signed well and will likely be out of the cups (also based on historical evidence).
If you find that surprising then thats cool, but I remember a similar article with all the same Liverpool "fans" acting equally as outrageoud when there was a debate last January as to who would score more goals Kane or Jota.
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Kane or Jota?
Well what about if we just pick an arbitrary period of the year when Jota outscored Kane? That's how Spurs fans operate...
I said it before, I'd never rule out Spurs finishing ahead of us, but Bissouma, Perisic and Richarlison are not getting you to 90 points when you have a European competition to fight, I expect 80 to be an excellent season for Spurs.
Meanwhile we've had 90 points plus in 3 of the last 4 seasons....
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I dont think we will get 90, I think we will get between 80-86 and Liverpool will get between 83-93.
comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 30 minutes ago
Why is it that Spurs fans have already decided they will be 10-15 points better off next season, may I ask.
Just because they have signed some players, is that it? That's not how it works.
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1. We had a crap manager for the first 10 games last season
2. We now have a fantastic manager who av. 2 pts a game despite coming in mid season
3. We sustained excellent form at the end of last season, almost matching LFC & Citys, so have clearly improved and become more consistent
4. We have added depth and quality and experience to the squad, improving it in multiple areas, giving us a better chance of achieving consistency
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2 points a game gets you 76 points.... We got 92 last year....
The fact you had excellent form and still couldn't compete with LFC and City should surely tell you something?
You've added three players... Only one of whom I believe will impact you.
Let's be honest, it'll take a pretty big collapse from LFC to be battling with Spurs in the league table, no chance in hell Spurs are getting near 90 points.
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I dont think Liverpool will get 90 points this season.
Couldnt careless which of our signings the mighty Luke thinks will impact us, im backing our managers selection on this one
and its 4 players, soon to be 6 and possibly 7.
Hard to know but we look the best equipped team to challenge the top 2. I can't think that we will not improve our points total on last season so we will see.
What we're doing is kind of like when Liverpool spent the cash. There was a positivity around the team and most were predicting them to challenge for the title, and they did. Don't see why the same can't apply to us.
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 9 minutes ago
Why is it nonsense? Also "cringeworthy" - come off ithow hysterical can you get when challenged
I believe, that with time and the right signings we will imrpove significantly under Conte. This is based on all the historical evidence that we have to justify this (+ him being one of the best managers in the world when it comes to league football) - also the fact that we have signed well and will likely be out of the cups (also based on historical evidence).
If you find that surprising then thats cool, but I remember a similar article with all the same Liverpool "fans" acting equally as outrageoud when there was a debate last January as to who would score more goals Kane or Jota.
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It's nonsense because there is nothing tangible to back it up. If Spurs were already going at the points per game under Conte required to get that tally, you'd have a point. Instead you are averaging 2 points a game which is 76 in a season. That is the historical evidence.
Your signings may or may not improve you, same for ours, but that is pure guesswork at this stage.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
Hard to know but we look the best equipped team to challenge the top 2. I can't think that we will not improve our points total on last season so we will see.
What we're doing is kind of like when Liverpool spent the cash. There was a positivity around the team and most were predicting them to challenge for the title, and they did. Don't see why the same can't apply to us.
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Because Liverpool have exclusive rights on going from 75 points one year to 97 the year later.
How preposterous to suggest Spurs could do 10-15 better.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 30 minutes ago
Why is it that Spurs fans have already decided they will be 10-15 points better off next season, may I ask.
Just because they have signed some players, is that it? That's not how it works.
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1. We had a crap manager for the first 10 games last season
2. We now have a fantastic manager who av. 2 pts a game despite coming in mid season
3. We sustained excellent form at the end of last season, almost matching LFC & Citys, so have clearly improved and become more consistent
4. We have added depth and quality and experience to the squad, improving it in multiple areas, giving us a better chance of achieving consistency
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2 points a game gets you 76 points.... We got 92 last year....
The fact you had excellent form and still couldn't compete with LFC and City should surely tell you something?
You've added three players... Only one of whom I believe will impact you.
Let's be honest, it'll take a pretty big collapse from LFC to be battling with Spurs in the league table, no chance in hell Spurs are getting near 90 points.
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I dont think Liverpool will get 90 points this season.
Couldnt careless which of our signings the mighty Luke thinks will impact us, im backing our managers selection on this one
and its 4 players, soon to be 6 and possibly 7.
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And I'd back our managers as well
Klopp has proven to get 99% of signings right, with Konate who knows.
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
Hard to know but we look the best equipped team to challenge the top 2. I can't think that we will not improve our points total on last season so we will see.
What we're doing is kind of like when Liverpool spent the cash. There was a positivity around the team and most were predicting them to challenge for the title, and they did. Don't see why the same can't apply to us.
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Because Liverpool have exclusive rights on going from 75 points one year to 97 the year later.
How preposterous to suggest Spurs could do 10-15 better.
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Our form started to improve already after the January signings. Ended up finishing the season with 2 losses in 14 and 10 wins. I don't see why there can't be a continuation of this especially after strengthening the squad and not losing any key players.
comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 30 minutes ago
Why is it that Spurs fans have already decided they will be 10-15 points better off next season, may I ask.
Just because they have signed some players, is that it? That's not how it works.
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1. We had a crap manager for the first 10 games last season
2. We now have a fantastic manager who av. 2 pts a game despite coming in mid season
3. We sustained excellent form at the end of last season, almost matching LFC & Citys, so have clearly improved and become more consistent
4. We have added depth and quality and experience to the squad, improving it in multiple areas, giving us a better chance of achieving consistency
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2 points a game gets you 76 points.... We got 92 last year....
The fact you had excellent form and still couldn't compete with LFC and City should surely tell you something?
You've added three players... Only one of whom I believe will impact you.
Let's be honest, it'll take a pretty big collapse from LFC to be battling with Spurs in the league table, no chance in hell Spurs are getting near 90 points.
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I dont think Liverpool will get 90 points this season.
Couldnt careless which of our signings the mighty Luke thinks will impact us, im backing our managers selection on this one
and its 4 players, soon to be 6 and possibly 7.
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And I'd back our managers as well
Klopp has proven to get 99% of signings right, with Konate who knows.
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Why is there no chance of Spurs getting near 90 points? We got 86 points when we were at our peak under Poch. We now have Conte are doing to the sort of spending we should have done back then.
Also it was only the season before last that Liverpool had to scrape into the top 4 with a header from the keeper, being the defending champions. Liverpool have shown they are capable of dropping their levels significantly. In fact both Liverpool and City have. It's not like they've hit 90+ points all the time these last few years.
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 9 minutes ago
Why is it nonsense? Also "cringeworthy" - come off ithow hysterical can you get when challenged
I believe, that with time and the right signings we will imrpove significantly under Conte. This is based on all the historical evidence that we have to justify this (+ him being one of the best managers in the world when it comes to league football) - also the fact that we have signed well and will likely be out of the cups (also based on historical evidence).
If you find that surprising then thats cool, but I remember a similar article with all the same Liverpool "fans" acting equally as outrageoud when there was a debate last January as to who would score more goals Kane or Jota.
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It's nonsense because there is nothing tangible to back it up. If Spurs were already going at the points per game under Conte required to get that tally, you'd have a point. Instead you are averaging 2 points a game which is 76 in a season. That is the historical evidence.
Your signings may or may not improve you, same for ours, but that is pure guesswork at this stage.
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Still do not get it do you.
Klopp took over mid season didnt he. 12 points, with 30 left to play.
In the first 15 games he managed 6 wins, lost 5. 22 points
in teh next 15 games (Feb onwards) he managed 7 wins, losing 3. 26 points.
48 points overall, 1.67av.
Seems to me the more time klopp coached them the better they got.
AND you'll never guess what happened the next season, after a few signings (Matip mane and Wijnaldum )...they got better again. Losing just 6 all season, averaging 2 points a game. and gaining top 4.
The pattern here is that Klopp is a top manager. he improved them from day 1, and the results got better and better through the season, and then in the following seasons. Top managers make this happen, almost without fail.
Conte is doing this at Spurs. Probably starting from a higher base than when Klopp took on liverpool. Already got us 2 points a game, is now building for the next stage. But hes done it pretty much everywhere he goes.
I'd say we're a top class CB, RWB and maybe CM away from that 90 point mark, but with teh dealings we have done, and with Contes record you'd expect significant improvement and 80-86 is not an unreasonable shout.
It's be absolutely no surprise to see Conte leave in the next 12 months but the way he is now Pep, Ferguson and Shankley all mixed into one is pretty good value to read tbh.
In reality he had a good season at Chelsea once and won some stuff in Europe's 5th tier league.
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 18 seconds ago
It's be absolutely no surprise to see Conte leave in the next 12 months but the way he is now Pep, Ferguson and Shankley all mixed into one is pretty good value to read tbh.
In reality he had a good season at Chelsea once and won some stuff in Europe's 5th tier league.
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That's pathetic!
Would be like saying Klopp only won the Bundesliga when Bayern had an off season, has a dreadful record in finals and has only 4 cups to his name in England in 7 years.
Fact is neither have failed anywhere they have been, not all of it measured in trophies.
I think spurs will get 76-80 points, if they do that they should get top 4. A good run in the CL and another year with Conte in charge should have them a good platform to progress further.
However I expect other teams to spend and improve too so we’re see what happens.
If spurs could make it a 3way title race fantastic, it beats having the same 2 clubs going at it.
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comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 1 minute ago
Why is it that Spurs fans have already decided they will be 10-15 points better off next season, may I ask.
Just because they have signed some players, is that it? That's not how it works.
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No Nuno for a start.
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if they get off to a slow start what will the excuse be this year. i think they will be better but none of their buys would get into the liverpool team.
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Bissouma would
I thought the key debate point Liverpool fans would be pushing would be that we won't hit 90 points. Not that our points tally won't improve at all even though there's obviously a lot of reasons to assume that it will do
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posted on 8/7/22
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 30 minutes ago
Why is it that Spurs fans have already decided they will be 10-15 points better off next season, may I ask.
Just because they have signed some players, is that it? That's not how it works.
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1. We had a crap manager for the first 10 games last season
2. We now have a fantastic manager who av. 2 pts a game despite coming in mid season
3. We sustained excellent form at the end of last season, almost matching LFC & Citys, so have clearly improved and become more consistent
4. We have added depth and quality and experience to the squad, improving it in multiple areas, giving us a better chance of achieving consistency
posted on 8/7/22
Type of wum sharticle Wahl does...He lights the fuse between Liverpool and Spurs fans, and gently blends into background while having a good laugh....
Working imo
posted on 8/7/22
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 26 seconds ago
Yeah, I deliberately ignored it because people were using Nuno as a reason as to why you'll end up with more points, so I used Conte's record since he started.
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So you wouldn't proceed to eliminate the teething process & the part where he actually got to bring his own players in?
So I'm guessing when Klopp came in and averaged 1.67 points in his first season. You expected him to do the same thing in the 16/17 season and finish up on 63 points?
Cmon, surely you are not that dense?
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Nope, but using a "since January ppg" as a guide for next season is just utter nonsense really.
It reminds me of when United fans created the "since Bruno Fernandes signed" premier league table, equally cringeworthy.
If you want to believe it is though, go for it. I mean if we use purely since January 2022, form you can expect Liverpool to go unbeaten next season if that's the case. We all know it won't happen though.
posted on 8/7/22
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 30 minutes ago
Why is it that Spurs fans have already decided they will be 10-15 points better off next season, may I ask.
Just because they have signed some players, is that it? That's not how it works.
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1. We had a crap manager for the first 10 games last season
2. We now have a fantastic manager who av. 2 pts a game despite coming in mid season
3. We sustained excellent form at the end of last season, almost matching LFC & Citys, so have clearly improved and become more consistent
4. We have added depth and quality and experience to the squad, improving it in multiple areas, giving us a better chance of achieving consistency
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Cone didn't have pre-season as well!
posted on 8/7/22
*Conte
posted on 8/7/22
Wahl should be concerned about whether Chelsea can get 3rd again.
posted on 8/7/22
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 30 minutes ago
Why is it that Spurs fans have already decided they will be 10-15 points better off next season, may I ask.
Just because they have signed some players, is that it? That's not how it works.
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1. We had a crap manager for the first 10 games last season
2. We now have a fantastic manager who av. 2 pts a game despite coming in mid season
3. We sustained excellent form at the end of last season, almost matching LFC & Citys, so have clearly improved and become more consistent
4. We have added depth and quality and experience to the squad, improving it in multiple areas, giving us a better chance of achieving consistency
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2 points a game gets you 76 points.... We got 92 last year....
The fact you had excellent form and still couldn't compete with LFC and City should surely tell you something?
You've added three players... Only one of whom I believe will impact you.
Let's be honest, it'll take a pretty big collapse from LFC to be battling with Spurs in the league table, no chance in hell Spurs are getting near 90 points.
posted on 8/7/22
Why is it nonsense? Also "cringeworthy" - come off it how hysterical can you get when challenged
I believe, that with time and the right signings we will imrpove significantly under Conte. This is based on all the historical evidence that we have to justify this (+ him being one of the best managers in the world when it comes to league football) - also the fact that we have signed well and will likely be out of the cups (also based on historical evidence).
If you find that surprising then thats cool, but I remember a similar article with all the same Liverpool "fans" acting equally as outrageoud when there was a debate last January as to who would score more goals Kane or Jota.
posted on 8/7/22
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 1 minute ago
Why is it nonsense? Also "cringeworthy" - come off ithow hysterical can you get when challenged
I believe, that with time and the right signings we will imrpove significantly under Conte. This is based on all the historical evidence that we have to justify this (+ him being one of the best managers in the world when it comes to league football) - also the fact that we have signed well and will likely be out of the cups (also based on historical evidence).
If you find that surprising then thats cool, but I remember a similar article with all the same Liverpool "fans" acting equally as outrageoud when there was a debate last January as to who would score more goals Kane or Jota.
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Kane or Jota?
Well what about if we just pick an arbitrary period of the year when Jota outscored Kane? That's how Spurs fans operate...
I said it before, I'd never rule out Spurs finishing ahead of us, but Bissouma, Perisic and Richarlison are not getting you to 90 points when you have a European competition to fight, I expect 80 to be an excellent season for Spurs.
Meanwhile we've had 90 points plus in 3 of the last 4 seasons....
posted on 8/7/22
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 26 seconds ago
Yeah, I deliberately ignored it because people were using Nuno as a reason as to why you'll end up with more points, so I used Conte's record since he started.
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So you wouldn't proceed to eliminate the teething process & the part where he actually got to bring his own players in?
So I'm guessing when Klopp came in and averaged 1.67 points in his first season. You expected him to do the same thing in the 16/17 season and finish up on 63 points?
Cmon, surely you are not that dense?
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Nope, but using a "since January ppg" as a guide for next season is just utter nonsense really.
It reminds me of when United fans created the "since Bruno Fernandes signed" premier league table, equally cringeworthy.
If you want to believe it is though, go for it. I mean if we use purely since January 2022, form you can expect Liverpool to go unbeaten next season if that's the case. We all know it won't happen though.
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I think he is that dense.
Bruno was one player, who made a difference, but lets face it they still had Ole at the Wheel, the ceiling is limited.
From Feb onwards Spurs had 2 new faces in, the return of Romero and with every passing day more time on the training pitch with Conte.
Funnily enough the results and the consistency got better and better
posted on 8/7/22
comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 1 minute ago
Why is it nonsense? Also "cringeworthy" - come off ithow hysterical can you get when challenged
I believe, that with time and the right signings we will imrpove significantly under Conte. This is based on all the historical evidence that we have to justify this (+ him being one of the best managers in the world when it comes to league football) - also the fact that we have signed well and will likely be out of the cups (also based on historical evidence).
If you find that surprising then thats cool, but I remember a similar article with all the same Liverpool "fans" acting equally as outrageoud when there was a debate last January as to who would score more goals Kane or Jota.
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Kane or Jota?
Well what about if we just pick an arbitrary period of the year when Jota outscored Kane? That's how Spurs fans operate...
I said it before, I'd never rule out Spurs finishing ahead of us, but Bissouma, Perisic and Richarlison are not getting you to 90 points when you have a European competition to fight, I expect 80 to be an excellent season for Spurs.
Meanwhile we've had 90 points plus in 3 of the last 4 seasons....
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I dont think we will get 90, I think we will get between 80-86 and Liverpool will get between 83-93.
posted on 8/7/22
comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 30 minutes ago
Why is it that Spurs fans have already decided they will be 10-15 points better off next season, may I ask.
Just because they have signed some players, is that it? That's not how it works.
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1. We had a crap manager for the first 10 games last season
2. We now have a fantastic manager who av. 2 pts a game despite coming in mid season
3. We sustained excellent form at the end of last season, almost matching LFC & Citys, so have clearly improved and become more consistent
4. We have added depth and quality and experience to the squad, improving it in multiple areas, giving us a better chance of achieving consistency
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2 points a game gets you 76 points.... We got 92 last year....
The fact you had excellent form and still couldn't compete with LFC and City should surely tell you something?
You've added three players... Only one of whom I believe will impact you.
Let's be honest, it'll take a pretty big collapse from LFC to be battling with Spurs in the league table, no chance in hell Spurs are getting near 90 points.
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I dont think Liverpool will get 90 points this season.
Couldnt careless which of our signings the mighty Luke thinks will impact us, im backing our managers selection on this one
and its 4 players, soon to be 6 and possibly 7.
posted on 8/7/22
Hard to know but we look the best equipped team to challenge the top 2. I can't think that we will not improve our points total on last season so we will see.
What we're doing is kind of like when Liverpool spent the cash. There was a positivity around the team and most were predicting them to challenge for the title, and they did. Don't see why the same can't apply to us.
posted on 8/7/22
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 9 minutes ago
Why is it nonsense? Also "cringeworthy" - come off ithow hysterical can you get when challenged
I believe, that with time and the right signings we will imrpove significantly under Conte. This is based on all the historical evidence that we have to justify this (+ him being one of the best managers in the world when it comes to league football) - also the fact that we have signed well and will likely be out of the cups (also based on historical evidence).
If you find that surprising then thats cool, but I remember a similar article with all the same Liverpool "fans" acting equally as outrageoud when there was a debate last January as to who would score more goals Kane or Jota.
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It's nonsense because there is nothing tangible to back it up. If Spurs were already going at the points per game under Conte required to get that tally, you'd have a point. Instead you are averaging 2 points a game which is 76 in a season. That is the historical evidence.
Your signings may or may not improve you, same for ours, but that is pure guesswork at this stage.
posted on 8/7/22
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
Hard to know but we look the best equipped team to challenge the top 2. I can't think that we will not improve our points total on last season so we will see.
What we're doing is kind of like when Liverpool spent the cash. There was a positivity around the team and most were predicting them to challenge for the title, and they did. Don't see why the same can't apply to us.
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Because Liverpool have exclusive rights on going from 75 points one year to 97 the year later.
How preposterous to suggest Spurs could do 10-15 better.
posted on 8/7/22
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 30 minutes ago
Why is it that Spurs fans have already decided they will be 10-15 points better off next season, may I ask.
Just because they have signed some players, is that it? That's not how it works.
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1. We had a crap manager for the first 10 games last season
2. We now have a fantastic manager who av. 2 pts a game despite coming in mid season
3. We sustained excellent form at the end of last season, almost matching LFC & Citys, so have clearly improved and become more consistent
4. We have added depth and quality and experience to the squad, improving it in multiple areas, giving us a better chance of achieving consistency
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2 points a game gets you 76 points.... We got 92 last year....
The fact you had excellent form and still couldn't compete with LFC and City should surely tell you something?
You've added three players... Only one of whom I believe will impact you.
Let's be honest, it'll take a pretty big collapse from LFC to be battling with Spurs in the league table, no chance in hell Spurs are getting near 90 points.
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I dont think Liverpool will get 90 points this season.
Couldnt careless which of our signings the mighty Luke thinks will impact us, im backing our managers selection on this one
and its 4 players, soon to be 6 and possibly 7.
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And I'd back our managers as well
Klopp has proven to get 99% of signings right, with Konate who knows.
posted on 8/7/22
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 minute ago
Hard to know but we look the best equipped team to challenge the top 2. I can't think that we will not improve our points total on last season so we will see.
What we're doing is kind of like when Liverpool spent the cash. There was a positivity around the team and most were predicting them to challenge for the title, and they did. Don't see why the same can't apply to us.
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Because Liverpool have exclusive rights on going from 75 points one year to 97 the year later.
How preposterous to suggest Spurs could do 10-15 better.
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Our form started to improve already after the January signings. Ended up finishing the season with 2 losses in 14 and 10 wins. I don't see why there can't be a continuation of this especially after strengthening the squad and not losing any key players.
posted on 8/7/22
comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Luke Combs - FJB (U3979)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 30 minutes ago
Why is it that Spurs fans have already decided they will be 10-15 points better off next season, may I ask.
Just because they have signed some players, is that it? That's not how it works.
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1. We had a crap manager for the first 10 games last season
2. We now have a fantastic manager who av. 2 pts a game despite coming in mid season
3. We sustained excellent form at the end of last season, almost matching LFC & Citys, so have clearly improved and become more consistent
4. We have added depth and quality and experience to the squad, improving it in multiple areas, giving us a better chance of achieving consistency
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2 points a game gets you 76 points.... We got 92 last year....
The fact you had excellent form and still couldn't compete with LFC and City should surely tell you something?
You've added three players... Only one of whom I believe will impact you.
Let's be honest, it'll take a pretty big collapse from LFC to be battling with Spurs in the league table, no chance in hell Spurs are getting near 90 points.
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I dont think Liverpool will get 90 points this season.
Couldnt careless which of our signings the mighty Luke thinks will impact us, im backing our managers selection on this one
and its 4 players, soon to be 6 and possibly 7.
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And I'd back our managers as well
Klopp has proven to get 99% of signings right, with Konate who knows.
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Why is there no chance of Spurs getting near 90 points? We got 86 points when we were at our peak under Poch. We now have Conte are doing to the sort of spending we should have done back then.
Also it was only the season before last that Liverpool had to scrape into the top 4 with a header from the keeper, being the defending champions. Liverpool have shown they are capable of dropping their levels significantly. In fact both Liverpool and City have. It's not like they've hit 90+ points all the time these last few years.
posted on 8/7/22
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 9 minutes ago
Why is it nonsense? Also "cringeworthy" - come off ithow hysterical can you get when challenged
I believe, that with time and the right signings we will imrpove significantly under Conte. This is based on all the historical evidence that we have to justify this (+ him being one of the best managers in the world when it comes to league football) - also the fact that we have signed well and will likely be out of the cups (also based on historical evidence).
If you find that surprising then thats cool, but I remember a similar article with all the same Liverpool "fans" acting equally as outrageoud when there was a debate last January as to who would score more goals Kane or Jota.
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It's nonsense because there is nothing tangible to back it up. If Spurs were already going at the points per game under Conte required to get that tally, you'd have a point. Instead you are averaging 2 points a game which is 76 in a season. That is the historical evidence.
Your signings may or may not improve you, same for ours, but that is pure guesswork at this stage.
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Still do not get it do you.
Klopp took over mid season didnt he. 12 points, with 30 left to play.
In the first 15 games he managed 6 wins, lost 5. 22 points
in teh next 15 games (Feb onwards) he managed 7 wins, losing 3. 26 points.
48 points overall, 1.67av.
Seems to me the more time klopp coached them the better they got.
AND you'll never guess what happened the next season, after a few signings (Matip mane and Wijnaldum )...they got better again. Losing just 6 all season, averaging 2 points a game. and gaining top 4.
The pattern here is that Klopp is a top manager. he improved them from day 1, and the results got better and better through the season, and then in the following seasons. Top managers make this happen, almost without fail.
Conte is doing this at Spurs. Probably starting from a higher base than when Klopp took on liverpool. Already got us 2 points a game, is now building for the next stage. But hes done it pretty much everywhere he goes.
I'd say we're a top class CB, RWB and maybe CM away from that 90 point mark, but with teh dealings we have done, and with Contes record you'd expect significant improvement and 80-86 is not an unreasonable shout.
posted on 8/7/22
It's be absolutely no surprise to see Conte leave in the next 12 months but the way he is now Pep, Ferguson and Shankley all mixed into one is pretty good value to read tbh.
In reality he had a good season at Chelsea once and won some stuff in Europe's 5th tier league.
posted on 8/7/22
Oops spelt Shankly wrong
posted on 8/7/22
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 18 seconds ago
It's be absolutely no surprise to see Conte leave in the next 12 months but the way he is now Pep, Ferguson and Shankley all mixed into one is pretty good value to read tbh.
In reality he had a good season at Chelsea once and won some stuff in Europe's 5th tier league.
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That's pathetic!
Would be like saying Klopp only won the Bundesliga when Bayern had an off season, has a dreadful record in finals and has only 4 cups to his name in England in 7 years.
Fact is neither have failed anywhere they have been, not all of it measured in trophies.
posted on 8/7/22
I think spurs will get 76-80 points, if they do that they should get top 4. A good run in the CL and another year with Conte in charge should have them a good platform to progress further.
However I expect other teams to spend and improve too so we’re see what happens.
If spurs could make it a 3way title race fantastic, it beats having the same 2 clubs going at it.
posted on 8/7/22
comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 1 hour, 24 minutes ago
comment by Darren The King Fletcher (U10026)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 1 minute ago
Why is it that Spurs fans have already decided they will be 10-15 points better off next season, may I ask.
Just because they have signed some players, is that it? That's not how it works.
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No Nuno for a start.
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if they get off to a slow start what will the excuse be this year. i think they will be better but none of their buys would get into the liverpool team.
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Bissouma would
posted on 8/7/22
I thought the key debate point Liverpool fans would be pushing would be that we won't hit 90 points. Not that our points tally won't improve at all even though there's obviously a lot of reasons to assume that it will do
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