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posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
comment by spyro-12 (U21947)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robb Eriksen (U22716)
posted 1 hour, 53 minutes ago
I would have liked to have visited Iran pre-1979. Looked like a cool place, much like Lebanon before shiiit hit the fan.
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I get the impression Iran is and always has been fascinating. The cities today have highly educated people, many of whom would like to live in a more liberal society. The countryside is much more conservative and religious. The theocracy is hideous, brutal and hypocritical. We shouldn't idealise the regime of the Shah, which was toppled in 1979. It was also a brutal and corrupt autocracy, only one that wasn't concerned with religion and ideas of public morality.
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Wait till you find out what syria was like before the 2011 war. Before the west funded terrorists who blew so many of centries old architecture and artifacts.
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Pack it in you Russian bot, I come from Iraq so I’ve seen first hand what the West has done to our countries but don’t make out the governments in place haven’t contributed to the shiiitshow seen there right now. Iraqi politicians are one of the most corrupt gangsters going, it’s got fack all to do with the West on that part.
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Not sure anyone there suggested that the governments in places like Syria or Iraq are not culpable in any way for the outcomes in their country, or complicity is corruption.
Spyro's comment was short & crude but the UK & US's policy towards Syria was pretty monstrous; attempting to topple a non-subservient government on the one hand, which included arming some pretty nasty extremist militia groups (more or less what it did in Libya, with predicted & awful outcomes), whilst simultaneously trying to contain ISIS. The results of which have been a convoluted mess and horror for the country.
Also back to the topic... Iranian women standing up for their rights are incredibly brave given the violent reaction of the state. Their courage quickly frankly shames all of us who face no such heavy-handed resistance at home and yet still watch on fairly apathetically as our governments indulge their own brand of internal corruption, facilitate mass wealth accumulation and support & conduct wars of aggression abroad. Good luck to them.
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 2 hours, 1 minute ago
comment by Robb Eriksen (U22716)
posted 1 hour, 53 minutes ago
I would have liked to have visited Iran pre-1979. Looked like a cool place, much like Lebanon before shiiit hit the fan.
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I get the impression Iran is and always has been fascinating. The cities today have highly educated people, many of whom would like to live in a more liberal society. The countryside is much more conservative and religious. The theocracy is hideous, brutal and hypocritical. We shouldn't idealise the regime of the Shah, which was toppled in 1979. It was also a brutal and corrupt autocracy, only one that wasn't concerned with religion and ideas of public morality.
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Amnesty International described the Shah as "reigning with an all pervasive terror". It became a major torture centre (much like Chile under US-installed Pinochet).
"Cool place"...
A friend of mine who is an adventure travel/tour leader with extensive experience travelling all over Asia loves Iran. Tehran is one of her favourite places to visit. I'd certainly like to travel there some day.
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I'm honestly flabbergasted at some of the ignorance on this thread. People really don't have a clue.
comment by Ole dirty Baztard - penited and penandes (U19119)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ertugrul bey (U19849)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Shaun M - Livin da vi la Roca (U9955)
posted 4 minutes ago
Why can't the world just get find something they enjoy and just leave each other alone?
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They enjoy money and that is the problem.
The wars are making money for certain people. Heck even the churches in America have taken up causes they never did before because of money. Look it up. Abortion for example wasn't an issue in the way it has become for American preachers. And black churches were the forefront of civil rights but very quiet these days. Again money.
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Gullible people who believe in sky fairies donating hard earned money for televangelists new private jets, also are a big problem. .
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These churches and institutions of religion are funded more by governments than the people.
Sure people contribute too. But that's not the money they've gone silent for.
Where I can't get my head around is why the populace allow them to get away with it. It certainly isn't religion. Even Jesus went into the markets and turned things upside down.
You only have to look at the state of this country, outside of religion, to see how the populace are the ones who do the "fighting" whereas the benefit lies elsewhere. I mean look at the budget. It clearly helps the rich. But it's the working class who keep voting for these idiots.
Furthermore I think the whole religion is go blame and the whole sky fairy stuff is akin to the same populace blaming immigrants and Europe for their troubles when they should be paying attention to those with the wealth who are sc rewing them over.
Can't speak for the Iranian situation currently but this emphasis on women and hijab isn't always as it appears.
Turkey had more women fighting for hijab when they banned it in universities than those wanting it off.
The Arab Spring was portrayed as women wanting freedom. Yeah well those 7 may well have done. Similarly in Pakistan the whole my body my choice was a handful of women. Majority of wen came out against both. France hijab ban is women fighting against it.
Problem is it's always portrayed as a womens lib issue with the narrative being it's well supported. It isn't by women themselves from those parts.
Let people live how they want as long as they don't pose a danger. Those who want to do things different are free to stay or leave.
People on here will be against the death penalty. But America has it. Doesn't stop people visiting or wanting to visit. Similarly so we may not like certain practices in other parts of the world. But if you can go. Visit if safe to do so and accept it is what it is.
comment by King TUt (U3732)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 2 hours, 1 minute ago
comment by Robb Eriksen (U22716)
posted 1 hour, 53 minutes ago
I would have liked to have visited Iran pre-1979. Looked like a cool place, much like Lebanon before shiiit hit the fan.
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I get the impression Iran is and always has been fascinating. The cities today have highly educated people, many of whom would like to live in a more liberal society. The countryside is much more conservative and religious. The theocracy is hideous, brutal and hypocritical. We shouldn't idealise the regime of the Shah, which was toppled in 1979. It was also a brutal and corrupt autocracy, only one that wasn't concerned with religion and ideas of public morality.
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Amnesty International described the Shah as "reigning with an all pervasive terror". It became a major torture centre (much like Chile under US-installed Pinochet).
"Cool place"...
A friend of mine who is an adventure travel/tour leader with extensive experience travelling all over Asia loves Iran. Tehran is one of her favourite places to visit. I'd certainly like to travel there some day.
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I'm honestly flabbergasted at some of the ignorance on this thread. People really don't have a clue.
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Have travelled through all the Stans a few years back, Turkmenistan, UZBEKISTAN, TAJIKISTAN, KYRGYZSTAN AND KAZAKHSTAN. (Dunno why the capitals)
Loved it, fascinating cultures and great people for the most part. Very similar to Iran, especially the first two.
It's a symbol of oppression and violence/control over women by insecure small minded men.
Bizarre how just because it's become so common and many indoctrinated victims choose to wear it that it's deemed acceptable.
It should be as welcome as KKK gowns and SS uniforms in any society that sees women as more than a man's posession.
Speaking as an atheist/agnostic, can we please stop with the sky fairies remark.
First of all you don't know, far far cleverer people than you have believed.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
Speaking as an atheist/agnostic, can we please stop with the sky fairies remark.
First of all you don't know, far far cleverer people than you have believed.
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Feck off with that shiiiite.
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
Speaking as an atheist/agnostic, can we please stop with the sky fairies remark.
First of all you don't know, far far cleverer people than you have believed.
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Feck off with that shiiiite.
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So reasonably put. Pithy, witty and almost in the English language
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
Speaking as an atheist/agnostic, can we please stop with the sky fairies remark.
First of all you don't know, far far cleverer people than you have believed.
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Feck off with that shiiiite.
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I bet people who know you call you ' two balls and no brain' don't they?
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
Speaking as an atheist/agnostic, can we please stop with the sky fairies remark.
First of all you don't know, far far cleverer people than you have believed.
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Feck off with that shiiiite.
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So reasonably put. Pithy, witty and almost in the English language
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It doesn't justify a sensible answer though, there's no sensible part to believing that our species has figured out/chosen the right god out of the millions of God's people have made up over the years. Sky fairies is what they are.
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 49 minutes ago
It's a symbol of oppression and violence/control over women by insecure small minded men.
Bizarre how just because it's become so common and many indoctrinated victims choose to wear it that it's deemed acceptable.
It should be as welcome as KKK gowns and SS uniforms in any society that sees women as more than a man's posession.
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My wife wears a hijab. - she's Pakistani.
Her dad tells her not to wear it, her sisters do not wear it. She chooses to because she feels empowered.
Muslim women that wear hijabs and are career driven, confident and successful (like my wife) are actually amazing. It's great that they do not fear the absolute m0 ngs in this country, and others, and just get on with their lives.
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
Speaking as an atheist/agnostic, can we please stop with the sky fairies remark.
First of all you don't know, far far cleverer people than you have believed.
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Feck off with that shiiiite.
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So reasonably put. Pithy, witty and almost in the English language
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It doesn't justify a sensible answer though, there's no sensible part to believing that our species has figured out/chosen the right god out of the millions of God's people have made up over the years. Sky fairies is what they are.
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There, I knew you would get it wrong.
Religion isn't the issue.
People using religion to manipulate and control people is the issue.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
Speaking as an atheist/agnostic, can we please stop with the sky fairies remark.
First of all you don't know, far far cleverer people than you have believed.
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Feck off with that shiiiite.
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So reasonably put. Pithy, witty and almost in the English language
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It doesn't justify a sensible answer though, there's no sensible part to believing that our species has figured out/chosen the right god out of the millions of God's people have made up over the years. Sky fairies is what they are.
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There, I knew you would get it wrong.
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It isn't wrong though is it?
There is quite literally zero evidence of any single god existing. Quite literally no different than believing pixies are at the bottom of the garden or Santa Claus rides reindeer around at xmas.
comment by GregUnited (U1192)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 49 minutes ago
It's a symbol of oppression and violence/control over women by insecure small minded men.
Bizarre how just because it's become so common and many indoctrinated victims choose to wear it that it's deemed acceptable.
It should be as welcome as KKK gowns and SS uniforms in any society that sees women as more than a man's posession.
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My wife wears a hijab. - she's Pakistani.
Her dad tells her not to wear it, her sisters do not wear it. She chooses to because she feels empowered.
Muslim women that wear hijabs and are career driven, confident and successful (like my wife) are actually amazing. It's great that they do not fear the absolute m0 ngs in this country, and others, and just get on with their lives.
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And none of that changes it being first and foremost a symbol of oppression against women
It depends on what you mean by evidence.
But that's not the point I'm making. Millions do believe, some will be posters. So instead of mocking comments a simple' I think you are wrong' carries no insult and angers no one
comment by Cinciwolf---throwing money around like confetti (U11551)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
Speaking as an atheist/agnostic, can we please stop with the sky fairies remark.
First of all you don't know, far far cleverer people than you have believed.
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Feck off with that shiiiite.
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So reasonably put. Pithy, witty and almost in the English language
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It doesn't justify a sensible answer though, there's no sensible part to believing that our species has figured out/chosen the right god out of the millions of God's people have made up over the years. Sky fairies is what they are.
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There, I knew you would get it wrong.
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It isn't wrong though is it?
There is quite literally zero evidence of any single god existing. Quite literally no different than believing pixies are at the bottom of the garden or Santa Claus rides reindeer around at xmas.
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Maybe just show a little respect for people who do believe there is somebody beyond what we can see.
It's not all about you and your opinions.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 58 seconds ago
It depends on what you mean by evidence.
But that's not the point I'm making. Millions do believe, some will be posters. So instead of mocking comments a simple' I think you are wrong' carries no insult and angers no one
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Depends i guess. Religion repulses me, it is the reason the world is in such a shat situation. Anyone believing/prolonging the nonsense is a moron and partially to blame for the state of our world.
comment by Cinciwolf---throwing money around like confetti (U11551)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 58 seconds ago
It depends on what you mean by evidence.
But that's not the point I'm making. Millions do believe, some will be posters. So instead of mocking comments a simple' I think you are wrong' carries no insult and angers no one
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Depends i guess. Religion repulses me, it is the reason the world is in such a shat situation. Anyone believing/prolonging the nonsense is a moron and partially to blame for the state of our world.
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Does Putin believe then?
I have to agree with Greg to an extent here. I personally think religion is stupid and very much stand with the women in Iran with their protests and of course I’m sure there’s a huge swath of Muslim women out there forced with violence to wear hijabs and niqabs etc who really should be helped out of those situations but I work in Western Sydney where there is a large Arab population and at least 7/8 of the girls I work with wear hijabs and are some of the most confident and happy women you could ever meet and seem very free thinking and wear the hijabs as a choice.
It should always come down to choice but at the same time many in the west are of the assumption that every Muslim women is being forced to wear something they don’t want. Many, many of them actually like what the hijab brings and from what I’ve seen it’s a focus on what they can bring to a company and less on what they look like etc.
So in short - protest against the powerful men who control what women wear and what they do but also celebrate and support the women who actually have the choice and feel empowered by the hijab.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf---throwing money around like confetti (U11551)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 58 seconds ago
It depends on what you mean by evidence.
But that's not the point I'm making. Millions do believe, some will be posters. So instead of mocking comments a simple' I think you are wrong' carries no insult and angers no one
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Depends i guess. Religion repulses me, it is the reason the world is in such a shat situation. Anyone believing/prolonging the nonsense is a moron and partially to blame for the state of our world.
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Does Putin believe then?
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Yeah he does. Wears a crucifix and brought up devout orthodox.
Also this is part of Russian bolloks
He said: “Russian Orthodoxy for centuries saw itself as guardian of the true faith in contrast to Western Catholicism and Protestantism.
“Moscow, according to this lore, is the third Rome, the seat of the true Christendom, after Constantinople and the Roman Empire.”
Mr Tooley added that Russian Orthodoxy has nearly always been a “cheerleading nationalist subordinate to the state”.
comment by Robb Eriksen (U22716)
posted 1 minute ago
I have to agree with Greg to an extent here. I personally think religion is stupid and very much stand with the women in Iran with their protests and of course I’m sure there’s a huge swath of Muslim women out there forced with violence to wear hijabs and niqabs etc who really should be helped out of those situations but I work in Western Sydney where there is a large Arab population and at least 7/8 of the girls I work with wear hijabs and are some of the most confident and happy women you could ever meet and seem very free thinking and wear the hijabs as a choice.
It should always come down to choice but at the same time many in the west are of the assumption that every Muslim women is being forced to wear something they don’t want. Many, many of them actually like what the hijab brings and from what I’ve seen it’s a focus on what they can bring to a company and less on what they look like etc.
So in short - protest against the powerful men who control what women wear and what they do but also celebrate and support the women who actually have the choice and feel empowered by the hijab.
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Exactly right
comment by GregUnited (U1192)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 49 minutes ago
It's a symbol of oppression and violence/control over women by insecure small minded men.
Bizarre how just because it's become so common and many indoctrinated victims choose to wear it that it's deemed acceptable.
It should be as welcome as KKK gowns and SS uniforms in any society that sees women as more than a man's posession.
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My wife wears a hijab. - she's Pakistani.
Her dad tells her not to wear it, her sisters do not wear it. She chooses to because she feels empowered.
Muslim women that wear hijabs and are career driven, confident and successful (like my wife) are actually amazing. It's great that they do not fear the absolute m0 ngs in this country, and others, and just get on with their lives.
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She can't be that smart if she married a cvnt.
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 6 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by Robb Eriksen (U22716)
posted 1 hour, 53 minutes ago
I would have liked to have visited Iran pre-1979. Looked like a cool place, much like Lebanon before shiiit hit the fan.
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I get the impression Iran is and always has been fascinating. The cities today have highly educated people, many of whom would like to live in a more liberal society.
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Maybe why by far and away the largest proportion of refugees heading for the UK start their journey in Iran. Or claim they did. Maybe Afghans in that group?
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posted on 24/9/22
comment by Ignacio Varga (U11781)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
comment by spyro-12 (U21947)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robb Eriksen (U22716)
posted 1 hour, 53 minutes ago
I would have liked to have visited Iran pre-1979. Looked like a cool place, much like Lebanon before shiiit hit the fan.
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I get the impression Iran is and always has been fascinating. The cities today have highly educated people, many of whom would like to live in a more liberal society. The countryside is much more conservative and religious. The theocracy is hideous, brutal and hypocritical. We shouldn't idealise the regime of the Shah, which was toppled in 1979. It was also a brutal and corrupt autocracy, only one that wasn't concerned with religion and ideas of public morality.
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Wait till you find out what syria was like before the 2011 war. Before the west funded terrorists who blew so many of centries old architecture and artifacts.
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Pack it in you Russian bot, I come from Iraq so I’ve seen first hand what the West has done to our countries but don’t make out the governments in place haven’t contributed to the shiiitshow seen there right now. Iraqi politicians are one of the most corrupt gangsters going, it’s got fack all to do with the West on that part.
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Not sure anyone there suggested that the governments in places like Syria or Iraq are not culpable in any way for the outcomes in their country, or complicity is corruption.
Spyro's comment was short & crude but the UK & US's policy towards Syria was pretty monstrous; attempting to topple a non-subservient government on the one hand, which included arming some pretty nasty extremist militia groups (more or less what it did in Libya, with predicted & awful outcomes), whilst simultaneously trying to contain ISIS. The results of which have been a convoluted mess and horror for the country.
Also back to the topic... Iranian women standing up for their rights are incredibly brave given the violent reaction of the state. Their courage quickly frankly shames all of us who face no such heavy-handed resistance at home and yet still watch on fairly apathetically as our governments indulge their own brand of internal corruption, facilitate mass wealth accumulation and support & conduct wars of aggression abroad. Good luck to them.
posted on 24/9/22
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 2 hours, 1 minute ago
comment by Robb Eriksen (U22716)
posted 1 hour, 53 minutes ago
I would have liked to have visited Iran pre-1979. Looked like a cool place, much like Lebanon before shiiit hit the fan.
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I get the impression Iran is and always has been fascinating. The cities today have highly educated people, many of whom would like to live in a more liberal society. The countryside is much more conservative and religious. The theocracy is hideous, brutal and hypocritical. We shouldn't idealise the regime of the Shah, which was toppled in 1979. It was also a brutal and corrupt autocracy, only one that wasn't concerned with religion and ideas of public morality.
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Amnesty International described the Shah as "reigning with an all pervasive terror". It became a major torture centre (much like Chile under US-installed Pinochet).
"Cool place"...
A friend of mine who is an adventure travel/tour leader with extensive experience travelling all over Asia loves Iran. Tehran is one of her favourite places to visit. I'd certainly like to travel there some day.
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I'm honestly flabbergasted at some of the ignorance on this thread. People really don't have a clue.
posted on 24/9/22
comment by Ole dirty Baztard - penited and penandes (U19119)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ertugrul bey (U19849)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Shaun M - Livin da vi la Roca (U9955)
posted 4 minutes ago
Why can't the world just get find something they enjoy and just leave each other alone?
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They enjoy money and that is the problem.
The wars are making money for certain people. Heck even the churches in America have taken up causes they never did before because of money. Look it up. Abortion for example wasn't an issue in the way it has become for American preachers. And black churches were the forefront of civil rights but very quiet these days. Again money.
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Gullible people who believe in sky fairies donating hard earned money for televangelists new private jets, also are a big problem. .
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These churches and institutions of religion are funded more by governments than the people.
Sure people contribute too. But that's not the money they've gone silent for.
Where I can't get my head around is why the populace allow them to get away with it. It certainly isn't religion. Even Jesus went into the markets and turned things upside down.
You only have to look at the state of this country, outside of religion, to see how the populace are the ones who do the "fighting" whereas the benefit lies elsewhere. I mean look at the budget. It clearly helps the rich. But it's the working class who keep voting for these idiots.
Furthermore I think the whole religion is go blame and the whole sky fairy stuff is akin to the same populace blaming immigrants and Europe for their troubles when they should be paying attention to those with the wealth who are sc rewing them over.
posted on 24/9/22
Can't speak for the Iranian situation currently but this emphasis on women and hijab isn't always as it appears.
Turkey had more women fighting for hijab when they banned it in universities than those wanting it off.
The Arab Spring was portrayed as women wanting freedom. Yeah well those 7 may well have done. Similarly in Pakistan the whole my body my choice was a handful of women. Majority of wen came out against both. France hijab ban is women fighting against it.
Problem is it's always portrayed as a womens lib issue with the narrative being it's well supported. It isn't by women themselves from those parts.
Let people live how they want as long as they don't pose a danger. Those who want to do things different are free to stay or leave.
People on here will be against the death penalty. But America has it. Doesn't stop people visiting or wanting to visit. Similarly so we may not like certain practices in other parts of the world. But if you can go. Visit if safe to do so and accept it is what it is.
posted on 24/9/22
comment by King TUt (U3732)
posted 1 hour, 41 minutes ago
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 2 hours, 1 minute ago
comment by Robb Eriksen (U22716)
posted 1 hour, 53 minutes ago
I would have liked to have visited Iran pre-1979. Looked like a cool place, much like Lebanon before shiiit hit the fan.
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I get the impression Iran is and always has been fascinating. The cities today have highly educated people, many of whom would like to live in a more liberal society. The countryside is much more conservative and religious. The theocracy is hideous, brutal and hypocritical. We shouldn't idealise the regime of the Shah, which was toppled in 1979. It was also a brutal and corrupt autocracy, only one that wasn't concerned with religion and ideas of public morality.
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Amnesty International described the Shah as "reigning with an all pervasive terror". It became a major torture centre (much like Chile under US-installed Pinochet).
"Cool place"...
A friend of mine who is an adventure travel/tour leader with extensive experience travelling all over Asia loves Iran. Tehran is one of her favourite places to visit. I'd certainly like to travel there some day.
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I'm honestly flabbergasted at some of the ignorance on this thread. People really don't have a clue.
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Have travelled through all the Stans a few years back, Turkmenistan, UZBEKISTAN, TAJIKISTAN, KYRGYZSTAN AND KAZAKHSTAN. (Dunno why the capitals)
Loved it, fascinating cultures and great people for the most part. Very similar to Iran, especially the first two.
posted on 24/9/22
It's a symbol of oppression and violence/control over women by insecure small minded men.
Bizarre how just because it's become so common and many indoctrinated victims choose to wear it that it's deemed acceptable.
It should be as welcome as KKK gowns and SS uniforms in any society that sees women as more than a man's posession.
posted on 24/9/22
Speaking as an atheist/agnostic, can we please stop with the sky fairies remark.
First of all you don't know, far far cleverer people than you have believed.
posted on 24/9/22
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
Speaking as an atheist/agnostic, can we please stop with the sky fairies remark.
First of all you don't know, far far cleverer people than you have believed.
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Feck off with that shiiiite.
posted on 24/9/22
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
Speaking as an atheist/agnostic, can we please stop with the sky fairies remark.
First of all you don't know, far far cleverer people than you have believed.
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Feck off with that shiiiite.
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So reasonably put. Pithy, witty and almost in the English language
posted on 24/9/22
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
Speaking as an atheist/agnostic, can we please stop with the sky fairies remark.
First of all you don't know, far far cleverer people than you have believed.
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Feck off with that shiiiite.
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I bet people who know you call you ' two balls and no brain' don't they?
posted on 24/9/22
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
Speaking as an atheist/agnostic, can we please stop with the sky fairies remark.
First of all you don't know, far far cleverer people than you have believed.
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Feck off with that shiiiite.
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So reasonably put. Pithy, witty and almost in the English language
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It doesn't justify a sensible answer though, there's no sensible part to believing that our species has figured out/chosen the right god out of the millions of God's people have made up over the years. Sky fairies is what they are.
posted on 24/9/22
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 49 minutes ago
It's a symbol of oppression and violence/control over women by insecure small minded men.
Bizarre how just because it's become so common and many indoctrinated victims choose to wear it that it's deemed acceptable.
It should be as welcome as KKK gowns and SS uniforms in any society that sees women as more than a man's posession.
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My wife wears a hijab. - she's Pakistani.
Her dad tells her not to wear it, her sisters do not wear it. She chooses to because she feels empowered.
Muslim women that wear hijabs and are career driven, confident and successful (like my wife) are actually amazing. It's great that they do not fear the absolute m0 ngs in this country, and others, and just get on with their lives.
posted on 24/9/22
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
Speaking as an atheist/agnostic, can we please stop with the sky fairies remark.
First of all you don't know, far far cleverer people than you have believed.
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Feck off with that shiiiite.
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So reasonably put. Pithy, witty and almost in the English language
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It doesn't justify a sensible answer though, there's no sensible part to believing that our species has figured out/chosen the right god out of the millions of God's people have made up over the years. Sky fairies is what they are.
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There, I knew you would get it wrong.
posted on 24/9/22
Religion isn't the issue.
People using religion to manipulate and control people is the issue.
posted on 24/9/22
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
Speaking as an atheist/agnostic, can we please stop with the sky fairies remark.
First of all you don't know, far far cleverer people than you have believed.
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Feck off with that shiiiite.
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So reasonably put. Pithy, witty and almost in the English language
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It doesn't justify a sensible answer though, there's no sensible part to believing that our species has figured out/chosen the right god out of the millions of God's people have made up over the years. Sky fairies is what they are.
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There, I knew you would get it wrong.
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It isn't wrong though is it?
There is quite literally zero evidence of any single god existing. Quite literally no different than believing pixies are at the bottom of the garden or Santa Claus rides reindeer around at xmas.
posted on 24/9/22
comment by GregUnited (U1192)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 49 minutes ago
It's a symbol of oppression and violence/control over women by insecure small minded men.
Bizarre how just because it's become so common and many indoctrinated victims choose to wear it that it's deemed acceptable.
It should be as welcome as KKK gowns and SS uniforms in any society that sees women as more than a man's posession.
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My wife wears a hijab. - she's Pakistani.
Her dad tells her not to wear it, her sisters do not wear it. She chooses to because she feels empowered.
Muslim women that wear hijabs and are career driven, confident and successful (like my wife) are actually amazing. It's great that they do not fear the absolute m0 ngs in this country, and others, and just get on with their lives.
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And none of that changes it being first and foremost a symbol of oppression against women
posted on 24/9/22
It depends on what you mean by evidence.
But that's not the point I'm making. Millions do believe, some will be posters. So instead of mocking comments a simple' I think you are wrong' carries no insult and angers no one
posted on 24/9/22
comment by Cinciwolf---throwing money around like confetti (U11551)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
Speaking as an atheist/agnostic, can we please stop with the sky fairies remark.
First of all you don't know, far far cleverer people than you have believed.
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Feck off with that shiiiite.
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So reasonably put. Pithy, witty and almost in the English language
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It doesn't justify a sensible answer though, there's no sensible part to believing that our species has figured out/chosen the right god out of the millions of God's people have made up over the years. Sky fairies is what they are.
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There, I knew you would get it wrong.
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It isn't wrong though is it?
There is quite literally zero evidence of any single god existing. Quite literally no different than believing pixies are at the bottom of the garden or Santa Claus rides reindeer around at xmas.
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Maybe just show a little respect for people who do believe there is somebody beyond what we can see.
It's not all about you and your opinions.
posted on 24/9/22
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 58 seconds ago
It depends on what you mean by evidence.
But that's not the point I'm making. Millions do believe, some will be posters. So instead of mocking comments a simple' I think you are wrong' carries no insult and angers no one
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Depends i guess. Religion repulses me, it is the reason the world is in such a shat situation. Anyone believing/prolonging the nonsense is a moron and partially to blame for the state of our world.
posted on 24/9/22
comment by Cinciwolf---throwing money around like confetti (U11551)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 58 seconds ago
It depends on what you mean by evidence.
But that's not the point I'm making. Millions do believe, some will be posters. So instead of mocking comments a simple' I think you are wrong' carries no insult and angers no one
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Depends i guess. Religion repulses me, it is the reason the world is in such a shat situation. Anyone believing/prolonging the nonsense is a moron and partially to blame for the state of our world.
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Does Putin believe then?
posted on 24/9/22
I have to agree with Greg to an extent here. I personally think religion is stupid and very much stand with the women in Iran with their protests and of course I’m sure there’s a huge swath of Muslim women out there forced with violence to wear hijabs and niqabs etc who really should be helped out of those situations but I work in Western Sydney where there is a large Arab population and at least 7/8 of the girls I work with wear hijabs and are some of the most confident and happy women you could ever meet and seem very free thinking and wear the hijabs as a choice.
It should always come down to choice but at the same time many in the west are of the assumption that every Muslim women is being forced to wear something they don’t want. Many, many of them actually like what the hijab brings and from what I’ve seen it’s a focus on what they can bring to a company and less on what they look like etc.
So in short - protest against the powerful men who control what women wear and what they do but also celebrate and support the women who actually have the choice and feel empowered by the hijab.
posted on 24/9/22
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf---throwing money around like confetti (U11551)
posted 36 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 58 seconds ago
It depends on what you mean by evidence.
But that's not the point I'm making. Millions do believe, some will be posters. So instead of mocking comments a simple' I think you are wrong' carries no insult and angers no one
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Depends i guess. Religion repulses me, it is the reason the world is in such a shat situation. Anyone believing/prolonging the nonsense is a moron and partially to blame for the state of our world.
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Does Putin believe then?
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Yeah he does. Wears a crucifix and brought up devout orthodox.
Also this is part of Russian bolloks
He said: “Russian Orthodoxy for centuries saw itself as guardian of the true faith in contrast to Western Catholicism and Protestantism.
“Moscow, according to this lore, is the third Rome, the seat of the true Christendom, after Constantinople and the Roman Empire.”
Mr Tooley added that Russian Orthodoxy has nearly always been a “cheerleading nationalist subordinate to the state”.
posted on 24/9/22
comment by Robb Eriksen (U22716)
posted 1 minute ago
I have to agree with Greg to an extent here. I personally think religion is stupid and very much stand with the women in Iran with their protests and of course I’m sure there’s a huge swath of Muslim women out there forced with violence to wear hijabs and niqabs etc who really should be helped out of those situations but I work in Western Sydney where there is a large Arab population and at least 7/8 of the girls I work with wear hijabs and are some of the most confident and happy women you could ever meet and seem very free thinking and wear the hijabs as a choice.
It should always come down to choice but at the same time many in the west are of the assumption that every Muslim women is being forced to wear something they don’t want. Many, many of them actually like what the hijab brings and from what I’ve seen it’s a focus on what they can bring to a company and less on what they look like etc.
So in short - protest against the powerful men who control what women wear and what they do but also celebrate and support the women who actually have the choice and feel empowered by the hijab.
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Exactly right
posted on 24/9/22
comment by GregUnited (U1192)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 49 minutes ago
It's a symbol of oppression and violence/control over women by insecure small minded men.
Bizarre how just because it's become so common and many indoctrinated victims choose to wear it that it's deemed acceptable.
It should be as welcome as KKK gowns and SS uniforms in any society that sees women as more than a man's posession.
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My wife wears a hijab. - she's Pakistani.
Her dad tells her not to wear it, her sisters do not wear it. She chooses to because she feels empowered.
Muslim women that wear hijabs and are career driven, confident and successful (like my wife) are actually amazing. It's great that they do not fear the absolute m0 ngs in this country, and others, and just get on with their lives.
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She can't be that smart if she married a cvnt.
posted on 24/9/22
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 6 hours, 39 minutes ago
comment by Robb Eriksen (U22716)
posted 1 hour, 53 minutes ago
I would have liked to have visited Iran pre-1979. Looked like a cool place, much like Lebanon before shiiit hit the fan.
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I get the impression Iran is and always has been fascinating. The cities today have highly educated people, many of whom would like to live in a more liberal society.
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Maybe why by far and away the largest proportion of refugees heading for the UK start their journey in Iran. Or claim they did. Maybe Afghans in that group?
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