Doesn’t seem likely a similar process would be followed given the stakeholders in the Russian state, and the power vacuum that would be created with Putin’s demise. I hope you’re right, of course, I just don’t share your optimism.
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Doesn’t seem likely a similar process would be followed given the stakeholders in the Russian state, and the power vacuum that would be created with Putin’s demise. I hope you’re right, of course, I just don’t share your optimism.
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Some commentators have written a lot about Putin’s pre-war concerns about Ukrainians getting a lot wealthier very quickly as the country integrates more with Europe, and his fear that EU membership would further accelerate that process (which it undoubtedly would).
Notwithstanding the vast amount of rebuilding Ukraine will require, ironically, on the face of it, he could have brought the day that Ukraine’s standard of living surpasses Russia’s forward quite significantly both by tanking Russia’s economy and undermining its future growth, and by bringing Ukraine’s EU membership closer.
This does worry me about Ukraine’s future though: let’s say for argument’s sake there’s some sort of ceasefire at some point, and boundaries are somehow re-pencilled for now whilst negotiations go on, etc. etc. Maybe there’s eventually some sort of peace agreement, reparations of some kind are paid, whatever.
Then there’s huge outside investment in rebuilding Ukraine, new US and European business ties are forged, Ukraine is thrust towards EU membership, the new, smaller, rejuvenated, upskilled, well-supported and internationalist country flourishes.
Is Putin going to be happy with and stand by and watch that outcome?
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernançalvemiro triumvirate (U17054)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Doesn’t seem likely a similar process would be followed given the stakeholders in the Russian state, and the power vacuum that would be created with Putin’s demise. I hope you’re right, of course, I just don’t share your optimism.
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Some commentators have written a lot about Putin’s pre-war concerns about Ukrainians getting a lot wealthier very quickly as the country integrates more with Europe, and his fear that EU membership would further accelerate that process (which it undoubtedly would).
Notwithstanding the vast amount of rebuilding Ukraine will require, ironically, on the face of it, he could have brought the day that Ukraine’s standard of living surpasses Russia’s forward quite significantly both by tanking Russia’s economy and undermining its future growth, and by bringing Ukraine’s EU membership closer.
This does worry me about Ukraine’s future though: let’s say for argument’s sake there’s some sort of ceasefire at some point, and boundaries are somehow re-pencilled for now whilst negotiations go on, etc. etc. Maybe there’s eventually some sort of peace agreement, reparations of some kind are paid, whatever.
Then there’s huge outside investment in rebuilding Ukraine, new US and European business ties are forged, Ukraine is thrust towards EU membership, the new, smaller, rejuvenated, upskilled, well-supported and internationalist country flourishes.
Is Putin going to be happy with and stand by and watch that outcome?
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I think that’s why Ukraine will join NATO once they’ve booted Russia out and then they’ll be untouchable.
comment by peks - Supreme Commander (U6618)
posted 5 hours, 22 minutes ago
comment by Robb Cummins-Lyon (U22716)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by peks - Supreme Commander (U6618)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb Cummins-Lyon (U22716)
posted 2 minutes ago
Looking at the weekend I legit think if NATO wanted to invade Russia they could probably make it to Moscow fairly easily.
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you're forgetting the 5000+ nukes Russia has Robb
small oversight
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1) do they even work?
2) would they nuke their own country if invading forces came from multiple fronts??
I know it hurts to hear this Pekski but your country is a paper tiger
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given the billions of $$ of US military equipment, expertise, etc that has been poured into Ukraine it should have been an easy victory against the Russian paper tigers
and yet here we are with Russia having achieved most of their territorial objectives and the Ukrainian military on it's knees
How is this possible?
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What? This war has been a complete and utter humiliation for Russia, no other words for it.
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unl... (U17054)
posted 2 hours, 47 minutes ago
There’s a pretty good argument that history will look back at Putin as one of the very worst leaders in Russian history.
All of the opportunities the country had after the fall of the wall - the unique geography and rich resources of the place, the wide strategic regional and global geopolitical influence, the wealth, the workforce, the liberalisation and enfranchisement the Soviet regime had already seeded… - and what has he done?
He’s facked the constitution up, he’s taken complete control of the media, he’s restricted internet access, hes shut down cultural growth and opportunities, he’s completely facked international Russian business interests, he’s tanked the economy, he’s massively curbed personal freedoms, he’s sent hundreds of thousands of young men to torment and their deaths fighting an illegal war which will make the country a pariah state for years if not decades to come, he’s made life difficult for emigrants outside Russia everywhere, he’s triggered a brain drain of productive working aged men and women all queuing at the borders to escape the country, he’s made 95% of Russians much poorer than they were…
Disastrous for global peace, disastrous for Russian families, disastrous for Russia plc, disastrous for Russia as a global power.
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Yep, he has been a disaster for Russia, zero doubt about that. It is still 1980 in Russia.
On a slightly separate note, I do recommend the Tetris movie on Apple TV. Watched it the other night and was an interesting slice on corruption as the Soviet Union fell mixed with a story about one of the great games on one of the great consoles.
Just on EU membership, GDP per capita in Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania has more than doubled since the three voted to join the EU.
Over the same period, Russia’s GDP per capita has increased by forty-something percent.
Estonia and Latvia are now producing twice as much wealth per head as Russia, and the gap is widening year on year as the European economies grow and Russia’s shrinks.
rosso, yeah I think that’s a major concern for the stability of the region. Not just in the case of Putin, but any potential successor with similar attitudes towards Ukraine.
comment by Robb Cummins-Lyon (U22716)
posted 19 minutes ago
On a slightly separate note, I do recommend the Tetris movie on Apple TV. Watched it the other night and was an interesting slice on corruption as the Soviet Union fell mixed with a story about one of the great games on one of the great consoles.
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Quite a lot of things I want to watch though, so I'm not sure I can fit it in
Out of curiosity, which bits of Russia used to belong to China?
comment by peks - Supreme Commander (U6618)
posted 3 hours, 8 minutes ago
Russia is the most resource rich country on earth
it's never going to become an improvised backwater
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Other very large, extremely resource-rich countries:
Canada
Australia
Brazil
Congo
Whose governance systems, structures and practices would you say Russia's is closest to?
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 14 minutes ago
Out of curiosity, which bits of Russia used to belong to China?
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Outer Manchuria and parts of Siberia, I believe.
comment by peks - Supreme Commander (U6618)
posted 3 hours, 13 minutes ago
why do you think Western European style "democracy" is what is wanted by Russians ?
They've had a taste of that in the early 90s under Yelstin and it was extremely harmful to most Russians "
This is what the "West£ tries to do everywhere, impose it's ideals and political system on others....Iraq, Libya....did it work well there ?
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On the first part of that comment, do you personally think that their economic struggles at the time had more to do with Yeltsin, or would you say that the total implosion of the Soviet system, a completely inadequate industrial infrastructure, loss of all the client-state republics, and other related issues also had something to do with it?
On the second part, rather than the people of those countries not wanting the system per se, how much do you think might be a backlash to having it imposed by force, how much might have to do with plutocratic governance systems that are even more financially corrupt than the West's, and how much with other global powers also fighting for control by backing warlords and militias in order to destabilise those countries and interfere with democratisation?
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by peks - Supreme Commander (U6618)
posted 3 hours, 8 minutes ago
Russia is the most resource rich country on earth
it's never going to become an improvised backwater
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Other very large, extremely resource-rich countries:
Canada
Australia
Brazil
Congo
Whose governance systems, structures and practices would you say Russia's is closest to?
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I think peks point just highlights what an absolute disaster Putin has been and what a shambles Russia is. They should be a global powerhouse but are a bit of a joke.
Can't actually beli ve what i am reading from peks right now to be honest.
I have a Russian buddy here now i see weekly, he bailed out of Russia last September and he goes against every single point peks is trying to make.
Peks is a clown. Just checked and compared Russia's to Canada's gdp per capita. Canada's is 4 times what theirs is. And as for their industrial prowess?
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 10 minutes ago
Can't actually beli ve what i am reading from peks right now to be honest.
I have a Russian buddy here now i see weekly, he bailed out of Russia last September and he goes against every single point peks is trying to make.
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Yeah I've met as many new Russian refugees as Ukranian refugees here in the past year. Stupid fvks leaving their Idyllic paradise of a homeland.
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 14 minutes ago
Out of curiosity, which bits of Russia used to belong to China?
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Outer Manchuria and parts of Siberia, I believe.
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Interesting, I had no idea.
I just had a quick read about it, the first thing that struck me was that Russian Manchuria was popularly known as Green Ukraine, due to the vast numbers of Ukrainians who resettled there.
No idea of the region's demographics nowadays, but good luck to Russia if they have to rely on ethnic Ukrainians to try to hold onto it.
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernançalvemiro triumvirate (U17054)
posted 3 hours, 22 minutes ago
Russia
GDP per capita 2013: US$15,975
GDP per capita 2021: US$12,195 (lower than Bulgaria and Romania)
China
GDP per capita 2013: US$7,020
GDP per capita 2021: US$12,556
US
GDP per capita 2013: US$53,291
GDP per capita 2021: US$70,249
EU
GDP per capita 2013: US$34,564
GDP per capita 2021: US$38,411
Russia was going the wrong way, at a rate, before the war and before the sanctions.
It is now poorer than every single EU country, China, South-East Asia and half of Latin America. The likes of Brazil, Mexico, Malaysia, Indonesia and India will pass it within a generation, and in some of those cases, much sooner.
The path it is on is one to ruin.
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thar GDP per capita stuff is bolllloxxx
USA has a v high per capita GDP, and 1/3 of the population are living in cardboard boxes
Have visited in the past 8 years Russia, Belarus, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Ukraine, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan and can safely say the mighty Russia for quality of life came in around 5-6th from that lot, the country is a shambles.
comment by peks - Supreme Commander (U6618)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernançalvemiro triumvirate (U17054)
posted 3 hours, 22 minutes ago
Russia
GDP per capita 2013: US$15,975
GDP per capita 2021: US$12,195 (lower than Bulgaria and Romania)
China
GDP per capita 2013: US$7,020
GDP per capita 2021: US$12,556
US
GDP per capita 2013: US$53,291
GDP per capita 2021: US$70,249
EU
GDP per capita 2013: US$34,564
GDP per capita 2021: US$38,411
Russia was going the wrong way, at a rate, before the war and before the sanctions.
It is now poorer than every single EU country, China, South-East Asia and half of Latin America. The likes of Brazil, Mexico, Malaysia, Indonesia and India will pass it within a generation, and in some of those cases, much sooner.
The path it is on is one to ruin.
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thar GDP per capita stuff is bolllloxxx
USA has a v high per capita GDP, and 1/3 of the population are living in cardboard boxes
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A third? 33.333%? Shut da fvk up. Keep it coming idiot-boy.
comment by peks - Supreme Commander (U6618)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernançalvemiro triumvirate (U17054)
posted 3 hours, 22 minutes ago
Russia
GDP per capita 2013: US$15,975
GDP per capita 2021: US$12,195 (lower than Bulgaria and Romania)
China
GDP per capita 2013: US$7,020
GDP per capita 2021: US$12,556
US
GDP per capita 2013: US$53,291
GDP per capita 2021: US$70,249
EU
GDP per capita 2013: US$34,564
GDP per capita 2021: US$38,411
Russia was going the wrong way, at a rate, before the war and before the sanctions.
It is now poorer than every single EU country, China, South-East Asia and half of Latin America. The likes of Brazil, Mexico, Malaysia, Indonesia and India will pass it within a generation, and in some of those cases, much sooner.
The path it is on is one to ruin.
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thar GDP per capita stuff is bolllloxxx
USA has a v high per capita GDP, and 1/3 of the population are living in cardboard boxes
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Income inequality in Russia is among the highest in Europe, and not just that, and when you couple that with already low and rapidly declining GDP, it also means that there will be that many more people around or below the poverty line.
Why is it even necessary to point this out to you? Surely you can reach these conclusions on your own, or are you being intentionally obtuse for a reason?
Poor facks queue around the block for bread ffs.
comment by peks - Supreme Commander (U6618)
USA has a v high per capita GDP, and 1/3 of the population are living in cardboard boxes
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and you cannot argue with the facts.
fyi this makes the us homeless population the 13th largest country in the world.
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by peks - Supreme Commander (U6618)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernançalvemiro triumvirate (U17054)
posted 3 hours, 22 minutes ago
Russia
GDP per capita 2013: US$15,975
GDP per capita 2021: US$12,195 (lower than Bulgaria and Romania)
China
GDP per capita 2013: US$7,020
GDP per capita 2021: US$12,556
US
GDP per capita 2013: US$53,291
GDP per capita 2021: US$70,249
EU
GDP per capita 2013: US$34,564
GDP per capita 2021: US$38,411
Russia was going the wrong way, at a rate, before the war and before the sanctions.
It is now poorer than every single EU country, China, South-East Asia and half of Latin America. The likes of Brazil, Mexico, Malaysia, Indonesia and India will pass it within a generation, and in some of those cases, much sooner.
The path it is on is one to ruin.
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thar GDP per capita stuff is bolllloxxx
USA has a v high per capita GDP, and 1/3 of the population are living in cardboard boxes
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A third? 33.333%? Shut da fvk up. Keep it coming idiot-boy.
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I think the US has more expendable income than anywhere else doesn't it, or certainly right up there.
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posted on 26/6/23
Doesn’t seem likely a similar process would be followed given the stakeholders in the Russian state, and the power vacuum that would be created with Putin’s demise. I hope you’re right, of course, I just don’t share your optimism.
posted on 26/6/23
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Doesn’t seem likely a similar process would be followed given the stakeholders in the Russian state, and the power vacuum that would be created with Putin’s demise. I hope you’re right, of course, I just don’t share your optimism.
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Some commentators have written a lot about Putin’s pre-war concerns about Ukrainians getting a lot wealthier very quickly as the country integrates more with Europe, and his fear that EU membership would further accelerate that process (which it undoubtedly would).
Notwithstanding the vast amount of rebuilding Ukraine will require, ironically, on the face of it, he could have brought the day that Ukraine’s standard of living surpasses Russia’s forward quite significantly both by tanking Russia’s economy and undermining its future growth, and by bringing Ukraine’s EU membership closer.
This does worry me about Ukraine’s future though: let’s say for argument’s sake there’s some sort of ceasefire at some point, and boundaries are somehow re-pencilled for now whilst negotiations go on, etc. etc. Maybe there’s eventually some sort of peace agreement, reparations of some kind are paid, whatever.
Then there’s huge outside investment in rebuilding Ukraine, new US and European business ties are forged, Ukraine is thrust towards EU membership, the new, smaller, rejuvenated, upskilled, well-supported and internationalist country flourishes.
Is Putin going to be happy with and stand by and watch that outcome?
posted on 26/6/23
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernançalvemiro triumvirate (U17054)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Doesn’t seem likely a similar process would be followed given the stakeholders in the Russian state, and the power vacuum that would be created with Putin’s demise. I hope you’re right, of course, I just don’t share your optimism.
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Some commentators have written a lot about Putin’s pre-war concerns about Ukrainians getting a lot wealthier very quickly as the country integrates more with Europe, and his fear that EU membership would further accelerate that process (which it undoubtedly would).
Notwithstanding the vast amount of rebuilding Ukraine will require, ironically, on the face of it, he could have brought the day that Ukraine’s standard of living surpasses Russia’s forward quite significantly both by tanking Russia’s economy and undermining its future growth, and by bringing Ukraine’s EU membership closer.
This does worry me about Ukraine’s future though: let’s say for argument’s sake there’s some sort of ceasefire at some point, and boundaries are somehow re-pencilled for now whilst negotiations go on, etc. etc. Maybe there’s eventually some sort of peace agreement, reparations of some kind are paid, whatever.
Then there’s huge outside investment in rebuilding Ukraine, new US and European business ties are forged, Ukraine is thrust towards EU membership, the new, smaller, rejuvenated, upskilled, well-supported and internationalist country flourishes.
Is Putin going to be happy with and stand by and watch that outcome?
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I think that’s why Ukraine will join NATO once they’ve booted Russia out and then they’ll be untouchable.
posted on 26/6/23
comment by peks - Supreme Commander (U6618)
posted 5 hours, 22 minutes ago
comment by Robb Cummins-Lyon (U22716)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by peks - Supreme Commander (U6618)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb Cummins-Lyon (U22716)
posted 2 minutes ago
Looking at the weekend I legit think if NATO wanted to invade Russia they could probably make it to Moscow fairly easily.
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you're forgetting the 5000+ nukes Russia has Robb
small oversight
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1) do they even work?
2) would they nuke their own country if invading forces came from multiple fronts??
I know it hurts to hear this Pekski but your country is a paper tiger
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given the billions of $$ of US military equipment, expertise, etc that has been poured into Ukraine it should have been an easy victory against the Russian paper tigers
and yet here we are with Russia having achieved most of their territorial objectives and the Ukrainian military on it's knees
How is this possible?
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What? This war has been a complete and utter humiliation for Russia, no other words for it.
posted on 26/6/23
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unl... (U17054)
posted 2 hours, 47 minutes ago
There’s a pretty good argument that history will look back at Putin as one of the very worst leaders in Russian history.
All of the opportunities the country had after the fall of the wall - the unique geography and rich resources of the place, the wide strategic regional and global geopolitical influence, the wealth, the workforce, the liberalisation and enfranchisement the Soviet regime had already seeded… - and what has he done?
He’s facked the constitution up, he’s taken complete control of the media, he’s restricted internet access, hes shut down cultural growth and opportunities, he’s completely facked international Russian business interests, he’s tanked the economy, he’s massively curbed personal freedoms, he’s sent hundreds of thousands of young men to torment and their deaths fighting an illegal war which will make the country a pariah state for years if not decades to come, he’s made life difficult for emigrants outside Russia everywhere, he’s triggered a brain drain of productive working aged men and women all queuing at the borders to escape the country, he’s made 95% of Russians much poorer than they were…
Disastrous for global peace, disastrous for Russian families, disastrous for Russia plc, disastrous for Russia as a global power.
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Yep, he has been a disaster for Russia, zero doubt about that. It is still 1980 in Russia.
posted on 26/6/23
On a slightly separate note, I do recommend the Tetris movie on Apple TV. Watched it the other night and was an interesting slice on corruption as the Soviet Union fell mixed with a story about one of the great games on one of the great consoles.
posted on 26/6/23
Just on EU membership, GDP per capita in Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania has more than doubled since the three voted to join the EU.
Over the same period, Russia’s GDP per capita has increased by forty-something percent.
Estonia and Latvia are now producing twice as much wealth per head as Russia, and the gap is widening year on year as the European economies grow and Russia’s shrinks.
posted on 26/6/23
rosso, yeah I think that’s a major concern for the stability of the region. Not just in the case of Putin, but any potential successor with similar attitudes towards Ukraine.
posted on 26/6/23
comment by Robb Cummins-Lyon (U22716)
posted 19 minutes ago
On a slightly separate note, I do recommend the Tetris movie on Apple TV. Watched it the other night and was an interesting slice on corruption as the Soviet Union fell mixed with a story about one of the great games on one of the great consoles.
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Quite a lot of things I want to watch though, so I'm not sure I can fit it in
posted on 26/6/23
Out of curiosity, which bits of Russia used to belong to China?
posted on 26/6/23
comment by peks - Supreme Commander (U6618)
posted 3 hours, 8 minutes ago
Russia is the most resource rich country on earth
it's never going to become an improvised backwater
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Other very large, extremely resource-rich countries:
Canada
Australia
Brazil
Congo
Whose governance systems, structures and practices would you say Russia's is closest to?
posted on 26/6/23
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 14 minutes ago
Out of curiosity, which bits of Russia used to belong to China?
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Outer Manchuria and parts of Siberia, I believe.
posted on 26/6/23
comment by peks - Supreme Commander (U6618)
posted 3 hours, 13 minutes ago
why do you think Western European style "democracy" is what is wanted by Russians ?
They've had a taste of that in the early 90s under Yelstin and it was extremely harmful to most Russians "
This is what the "West£ tries to do everywhere, impose it's ideals and political system on others....Iraq, Libya....did it work well there ?
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On the first part of that comment, do you personally think that their economic struggles at the time had more to do with Yeltsin, or would you say that the total implosion of the Soviet system, a completely inadequate industrial infrastructure, loss of all the client-state republics, and other related issues also had something to do with it?
On the second part, rather than the people of those countries not wanting the system per se, how much do you think might be a backlash to having it imposed by force, how much might have to do with plutocratic governance systems that are even more financially corrupt than the West's, and how much with other global powers also fighting for control by backing warlords and militias in order to destabilise those countries and interfere with democratisation?
posted on 26/6/23
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by peks - Supreme Commander (U6618)
posted 3 hours, 8 minutes ago
Russia is the most resource rich country on earth
it's never going to become an improvised backwater
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Other very large, extremely resource-rich countries:
Canada
Australia
Brazil
Congo
Whose governance systems, structures and practices would you say Russia's is closest to?
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I think peks point just highlights what an absolute disaster Putin has been and what a shambles Russia is. They should be a global powerhouse but are a bit of a joke.
posted on 26/6/23
Can't actually beli ve what i am reading from peks right now to be honest.
I have a Russian buddy here now i see weekly, he bailed out of Russia last September and he goes against every single point peks is trying to make.
posted on 26/6/23
Peks is a clown. Just checked and compared Russia's to Canada's gdp per capita. Canada's is 4 times what theirs is. And as for their industrial prowess?
posted on 26/6/23
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 10 minutes ago
Can't actually beli ve what i am reading from peks right now to be honest.
I have a Russian buddy here now i see weekly, he bailed out of Russia last September and he goes against every single point peks is trying to make.
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Yeah I've met as many new Russian refugees as Ukranian refugees here in the past year. Stupid fvks leaving their Idyllic paradise of a homeland.
posted on 26/6/23
comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 14 minutes ago
Out of curiosity, which bits of Russia used to belong to China?
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Outer Manchuria and parts of Siberia, I believe.
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Interesting, I had no idea.
I just had a quick read about it, the first thing that struck me was that Russian Manchuria was popularly known as Green Ukraine, due to the vast numbers of Ukrainians who resettled there.
No idea of the region's demographics nowadays, but good luck to Russia if they have to rely on ethnic Ukrainians to try to hold onto it.
posted on 26/6/23
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernançalvemiro triumvirate (U17054)
posted 3 hours, 22 minutes ago
Russia
GDP per capita 2013: US$15,975
GDP per capita 2021: US$12,195 (lower than Bulgaria and Romania)
China
GDP per capita 2013: US$7,020
GDP per capita 2021: US$12,556
US
GDP per capita 2013: US$53,291
GDP per capita 2021: US$70,249
EU
GDP per capita 2013: US$34,564
GDP per capita 2021: US$38,411
Russia was going the wrong way, at a rate, before the war and before the sanctions.
It is now poorer than every single EU country, China, South-East Asia and half of Latin America. The likes of Brazil, Mexico, Malaysia, Indonesia and India will pass it within a generation, and in some of those cases, much sooner.
The path it is on is one to ruin.
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thar GDP per capita stuff is bolllloxxx
USA has a v high per capita GDP, and 1/3 of the population are living in cardboard boxes
posted on 26/6/23
Have visited in the past 8 years Russia, Belarus, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Ukraine, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan and can safely say the mighty Russia for quality of life came in around 5-6th from that lot, the country is a shambles.
posted on 26/6/23
comment by peks - Supreme Commander (U6618)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernançalvemiro triumvirate (U17054)
posted 3 hours, 22 minutes ago
Russia
GDP per capita 2013: US$15,975
GDP per capita 2021: US$12,195 (lower than Bulgaria and Romania)
China
GDP per capita 2013: US$7,020
GDP per capita 2021: US$12,556
US
GDP per capita 2013: US$53,291
GDP per capita 2021: US$70,249
EU
GDP per capita 2013: US$34,564
GDP per capita 2021: US$38,411
Russia was going the wrong way, at a rate, before the war and before the sanctions.
It is now poorer than every single EU country, China, South-East Asia and half of Latin America. The likes of Brazil, Mexico, Malaysia, Indonesia and India will pass it within a generation, and in some of those cases, much sooner.
The path it is on is one to ruin.
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thar GDP per capita stuff is bolllloxxx
USA has a v high per capita GDP, and 1/3 of the population are living in cardboard boxes
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A third? 33.333%? Shut da fvk up. Keep it coming idiot-boy.
posted on 26/6/23
comment by peks - Supreme Commander (U6618)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernançalvemiro triumvirate (U17054)
posted 3 hours, 22 minutes ago
Russia
GDP per capita 2013: US$15,975
GDP per capita 2021: US$12,195 (lower than Bulgaria and Romania)
China
GDP per capita 2013: US$7,020
GDP per capita 2021: US$12,556
US
GDP per capita 2013: US$53,291
GDP per capita 2021: US$70,249
EU
GDP per capita 2013: US$34,564
GDP per capita 2021: US$38,411
Russia was going the wrong way, at a rate, before the war and before the sanctions.
It is now poorer than every single EU country, China, South-East Asia and half of Latin America. The likes of Brazil, Mexico, Malaysia, Indonesia and India will pass it within a generation, and in some of those cases, much sooner.
The path it is on is one to ruin.
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thar GDP per capita stuff is bolllloxxx
USA has a v high per capita GDP, and 1/3 of the population are living in cardboard boxes
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Income inequality in Russia is among the highest in Europe, and not just that, and when you couple that with already low and rapidly declining GDP, it also means that there will be that many more people around or below the poverty line.
Why is it even necessary to point this out to you? Surely you can reach these conclusions on your own, or are you being intentionally obtuse for a reason?
posted on 26/6/23
Poor facks queue around the block for bread ffs.
posted on 26/6/23
comment by peks - Supreme Commander (U6618)
USA has a v high per capita GDP, and 1/3 of the population are living in cardboard boxes
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and you cannot argue with the facts.
fyi this makes the us homeless population the 13th largest country in the world.
posted on 26/6/23
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by peks - Supreme Commander (U6618)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernançalvemiro triumvirate (U17054)
posted 3 hours, 22 minutes ago
Russia
GDP per capita 2013: US$15,975
GDP per capita 2021: US$12,195 (lower than Bulgaria and Romania)
China
GDP per capita 2013: US$7,020
GDP per capita 2021: US$12,556
US
GDP per capita 2013: US$53,291
GDP per capita 2021: US$70,249
EU
GDP per capita 2013: US$34,564
GDP per capita 2021: US$38,411
Russia was going the wrong way, at a rate, before the war and before the sanctions.
It is now poorer than every single EU country, China, South-East Asia and half of Latin America. The likes of Brazil, Mexico, Malaysia, Indonesia and India will pass it within a generation, and in some of those cases, much sooner.
The path it is on is one to ruin.
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thar GDP per capita stuff is bolllloxxx
USA has a v high per capita GDP, and 1/3 of the population are living in cardboard boxes
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A third? 33.333%? Shut da fvk up. Keep it coming idiot-boy.
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I think the US has more expendable income than anywhere else doesn't it, or certainly right up there.
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