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You can almost be certain this was Israel, they’ll do the same as Russia and say Hamas were using the hospital to store supplies or house soldiers.
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I suspect it probably is.
The global reaction to this attack on the hospital hasn't been good at all and rightly so and they have distanced themselves already.
Do we buy it? I suppose in an active war zone anything is possible but if I was a betting man that's an Israeli attack and they have panicked after seeing the horror that it caused and said it wasn't them.
Shameful. They have made their point now and need to stop the attacks immediately.
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There’s no probably about it.
They already admitted to it and then deleted the tweet.
https://x.com/dillyhussain88/status/1714396764264927531?s=46&t=5HQp5aA26-XBAkndVw5TdQ
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If that’s accurate, what the feck are Hamas playing at storing and firing munitions from hospitals?
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Because that's what cowards do. They attack and then hide among innocent people.
They can't win this fight and they know that. Beggars belief.
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There was a documentary on Al Jazeera where an IDF spokesperson said a hospital is not seen as a hospital if they suspect Hamas activity. Palestinians are just collateral damage.
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I can believe it. Nothing surprises me anymore.
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They’ve already said they make no distinction between Hamas and Civilians multiple times.
The fact you’re trying to place blame on Hamas for Israel blowing up hundreds of civilians is just war crimes washing.
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Eh? How did you reach that conclusion you absolute plank?
I think the reaction from Israel has been horrific and abhorrent although not unexpected.
If you can't admit that Hamas are complicit in all this then you're clueless.
I wasn't taking sides. I never have with this endless war.
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Hamas complicit in blowing up the hospital? The missiles used were USA supplied!
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I'm sorry now you're being pedantic.
Hamas complicit in the fact they attacked Israelis unprovoked at a music festival and at their homes and took hostages.
Without those actions the hospital is still standing right now isn't it so to say they aren't to blame is just utter lunacy. They are very much part of the problem too. It's not just Israel.
I don't agree with the reaction of Israel but I'm not surprised by it either and neither will Hamas be. Thats what makes this so so bad. They knew this would be the reaction and did it anyway.
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comment by Busby (U19985)
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You can almost be certain this was Israel, they’ll do the same as Russia and say Hamas were using the hospital to store supplies or house soldiers.
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I suspect it probably is.
The global reaction to this attack on the hospital hasn't been good at all and rightly so and they have distanced themselves already.
Do we buy it? I suppose in an active war zone anything is possible but if I was a betting man that's an Israeli attack and they have panicked after seeing the horror that it caused and said it wasn't them.
Shameful. They have made their point now and need to stop the attacks immediately.
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There’s no probably about it.
They already admitted to it and then deleted the tweet.
https://x.com/dillyhussain88/status/1714396764264927531?s=46&t=5HQp5aA26-XBAkndVw5TdQ
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If that’s accurate, what the feck are Hamas playing at storing and firing munitions from hospitals?
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Because that's what cowards do. They attack and then hide among innocent people.
They can't win this fight and they know that. Beggars belief.
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There was a documentary on Al Jazeera where an IDF spokesperson said a hospital is not seen as a hospital if they suspect Hamas activity. Palestinians are just collateral damage.
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I can believe it. Nothing surprises me anymore.
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They’ve already said they make no distinction between Hamas and Civilians multiple times.
The fact you’re trying to place blame on Hamas for Israel blowing up hundreds of civilians is just war crimes washing.
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Eh? How did you reach that conclusion you absolute plank?
I think the reaction from Israel has been horrific and abhorrent although not unexpected.
If you can't admit that Hamas are complicit in all this then you're clueless.
I wasn't taking sides. I never have with this endless war.
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Hamas complicit in blowing up the hospital? The missiles used were USA supplied!
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I'm sorry now you're being pedantic.
Hamas complicit in the fact they attacked Israelis unprovoked at a music festival and at their homes and took hostages.
Without those actions the hospital is still standing right now isn't it so to say they aren't to blame is just utter lunacy. They are very much part of the problem too. It's not just Israel.
I don't agree with the reaction of Israel but I'm not surprised by it either and neither will Hamas be. Thats what makes this so so bad. They knew this would be the reaction and did it anyway.
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I think you are leveling this at the wrong person. I have never said Hamas were not responsible for the attack on Israelis, they were!
I meant the hospital and the hospital alone. They are not complicit on this respect.
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comment by Busby (U19985)
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You can almost be certain this was Israel, they’ll do the same as Russia and say Hamas were using the hospital to store supplies or house soldiers.
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I suspect it probably is.
The global reaction to this attack on the hospital hasn't been good at all and rightly so and they have distanced themselves already.
Do we buy it? I suppose in an active war zone anything is possible but if I was a betting man that's an Israeli attack and they have panicked after seeing the horror that it caused and said it wasn't them.
Shameful. They have made their point now and need to stop the attacks immediately.
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There’s no probably about it.
They already admitted to it and then deleted the tweet.
https://x.com/dillyhussain88/status/1714396764264927531?s=46&t=5HQp5aA26-XBAkndVw5TdQ
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If that’s accurate, what the feck are Hamas playing at storing and firing munitions from hospitals?
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Because that's what cowards do. They attack and then hide among innocent people.
They can't win this fight and they know that. Beggars belief.
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There was a documentary on Al Jazeera where an IDF spokesperson said a hospital is not seen as a hospital if they suspect Hamas activity. Palestinians are just collateral damage.
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I can believe it. Nothing surprises me anymore.
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They’ve already said they make no distinction between Hamas and Civilians multiple times.
The fact you’re trying to place blame on Hamas for Israel blowing up hundreds of civilians is just war crimes washing.
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Eh? How did you reach that conclusion you absolute plank?
I think the reaction from Israel has been horrific and abhorrent although not unexpected.
If you can't admit that Hamas are complicit in all this then you're clueless.
I wasn't taking sides. I never have with this endless war.
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Hamas complicit in blowing up the hospital? The missiles used were USA supplied!
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I'm sorry now you're being pedantic.
Hamas complicit in the fact they attacked Israelis unprovoked at a music festival and at their homes and took hostages.
Without those actions the hospital is still standing right now isn't it so to say they aren't to blame is just utter lunacy. They are very much part of the problem too. It's not just Israel.
I don't agree with the reaction of Israel but I'm not surprised by it either and neither will Hamas be. Thats what makes this so so bad. They knew this would be the reaction and did it anyway.
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I think you are leveling this at the wrong person. I have never said Hamas were not responsible for the attack on Israelis, they were!
I meant the hospital and the hospital alone. They are not complicit on this respect.
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Sorry I was confused there for a second. I thought you were speaking generally. I don't buy the BS from Israel either about the misfired Jihad rocket.
I have never took sides on this conflict. I think there are massive evils on both sides and I firmly believe religion is the root of all evil in the word. That and greed of course.
Let's hope we get some sanity prevailing tomorrow. If those horrific scenes don't bring about some caution and bring about a cease fire then what will?
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comment by Busby (U19985)
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You can almost be certain this was Israel, they’ll do the same as Russia and say Hamas were using the hospital to store supplies or house soldiers.
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I suspect it probably is.
The global reaction to this attack on the hospital hasn't been good at all and rightly so and they have distanced themselves already.
Do we buy it? I suppose in an active war zone anything is possible but if I was a betting man that's an Israeli attack and they have panicked after seeing the horror that it caused and said it wasn't them.
Shameful. They have made their point now and need to stop the attacks immediately.
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There’s no probably about it.
They already admitted to it and then deleted the tweet.
https://x.com/dillyhussain88/status/1714396764264927531?s=46&t=5HQp5aA26-XBAkndVw5TdQ
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If that’s accurate, what the feck are Hamas playing at storing and firing munitions from hospitals?
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Because that's what cowards do. They attack and then hide among innocent people.
They can't win this fight and they know that. Beggars belief.
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There was a documentary on Al Jazeera where an IDF spokesperson said a hospital is not seen as a hospital if they suspect Hamas activity. Palestinians are just collateral damage.
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I can believe it. Nothing surprises me anymore.
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They’ve already said they make no distinction between Hamas and Civilians multiple times.
The fact you’re trying to place blame on Hamas for Israel blowing up hundreds of civilians is just war crimes washing.
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Eh? How did you reach that conclusion you absolute plank?
I think the reaction from Israel has been horrific and abhorrent although not unexpected.
If you can't admit that Hamas are complicit in all this then you're clueless.
I wasn't taking sides. I never have with this endless war.
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Hamas complicit in blowing up the hospital? The missiles used were USA supplied!
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I'm sorry now you're being pedantic.
Hamas complicit in the fact they attacked Israelis unprovoked at a music festival and at their homes and took hostages.
Without those actions the hospital is still standing right now isn't it so to say they aren't to blame is just utter lunacy. They are very much part of the problem too. It's not just Israel.
I don't agree with the reaction of Israel but I'm not surprised by it either and neither will Hamas be. Thats what makes this so so bad. They knew this would be the reaction and did it anyway.
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I think you are leveling this at the wrong person. I have never said Hamas were not responsible for the attack on Israelis, they were!
I meant the hospital and the hospital alone. They are not complicit on this respect.
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Sorry I was confused there for a second. I thought you were speaking generally. I don't buy the BS from Israel either about the misfired Jihad rocket.
I have never took sides on this conflict. I think there are massive evils on both sides and I firmly believe religion is the root of all evil in the word. That and greed of course.
Let's hope we get some sanity prevailing tomorrow. If those horrific scenes don't bring about some caution and bring about a cease fire then what will?
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I find the loss of innocent life such a waste, be it Israeli or Palestinian, whatever the ethnicity - all human life is important to me. Such waste of potential.
I'm sorry now you're being pedantic.
Hamas complicit in the fact they attacked Israelis unprovoked at a music festival and at their homes and took hostages.
Without those actions the hospital is still standing right now isn't it so to say they aren't to blame is just utter lunacy. They are very much part of the problem too. It's not just Israel.
I don't agree with the reaction of Israel but I'm not surprised by it either and neither will Hamas be. Thats what makes this so so bad. They knew this would be the reaction and did it anyway.
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Unprovoked… this is comedic
They’re an occupying force in beach of multiple UN conventions
2) they’ve killing people in all year including children.
Just a small sample below
https://www.instagram.com/p/CuXmiz6u9m2/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
https://www.instagram.com/p/CwQgB5MIdub/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
https://www.instagram.com/p/CwW8BGhIEby/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cv2wFQ-IsBY/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
3) they continuously stormed Al Aqsa mosque including during Ramadan injuring and killing people in their place of worship
4) I could go in all day about children who have been imprisoned, tortured, killed including civilians from today all the way until 1948 when peace in the region was eradicated once and for all by Israel
To say an OCCUPYING force is in a defensive stance is laughable.
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comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 7 minutes ago
You can almost be certain this was Israel, they’ll do the same as Russia and say Hamas were using the hospital to store supplies or house soldiers.
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I suspect it probably is.
The global reaction to this attack on the hospital hasn't been good at all and rightly so and they have distanced themselves already.
Do we buy it? I suppose in an active war zone anything is possible but if I was a betting man that's an Israeli attack and they have panicked after seeing the horror that it caused and said it wasn't them.
Shameful. They have made their point now and need to stop the attacks immediately.
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There’s no probably about it.
They already admitted to it and then deleted the tweet.
https://x.com/dillyhussain88/status/1714396764264927531?s=46&t=5HQp5aA26-XBAkndVw5TdQ
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If that’s accurate, what the feck are Hamas playing at storing and firing munitions from hospitals?
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Because that's what cowards do. They attack and then hide among innocent people.
They can't win this fight and they know that. Beggars belief.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There was a documentary on Al Jazeera where an IDF spokesperson said a hospital is not seen as a hospital if they suspect Hamas activity. Palestinians are just collateral damage.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I can believe it. Nothing surprises me anymore.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They’ve already said they make no distinction between Hamas and Civilians multiple times.
The fact you’re trying to place blame on Hamas for Israel blowing up hundreds of civilians is just war crimes washing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Eh? How did you reach that conclusion you absolute plank?
I think the reaction from Israel has been horrific and abhorrent although not unexpected.
If you can't admit that Hamas are complicit in all this then you're clueless.
I wasn't taking sides. I never have with this endless war.
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Hamas complicit in blowing up the hospital? The missiles used were USA supplied!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm sorry now you're being pedantic.
Hamas complicit in the fact they attacked Israelis unprovoked at a music festival and at their homes and took hostages.
Without those actions the hospital is still standing right now isn't it so to say they aren't to blame is just utter lunacy. They are very much part of the problem too. It's not just Israel.
I don't agree with the reaction of Israel but I'm not surprised by it either and neither will Hamas be. Thats what makes this so so bad. They knew this would be the reaction and did it anyway.
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I think you are leveling this at the wrong person. I have never said Hamas were not responsible for the attack on Israelis, they were!
I meant the hospital and the hospital alone. They are not complicit on this respect.
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Sorry I was confused there for a second. I thought you were speaking generally. I don't buy the BS from Israel either about the misfired Jihad rocket.
I have never took sides on this conflict. I think there are massive evils on both sides and I firmly believe religion is the root of all evil in the word. That and greed of course.
Let's hope we get some sanity prevailing tomorrow. If those horrific scenes don't bring about some caution and bring about a cease fire then what will?
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I find the loss of innocent life such a waste, be it Israeli or Palestinian, whatever the ethnicity - all human life is important to me. Such waste of potential.
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All belief systems have a fundamental, highly right wing element, it is not the religion per se it is the interpretation of a few nutcases unfortunately.
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 hours, 6 minutes ago
Richard Madley on TV asking a British MP with Palestinian roots if her or anyone she knows knew about the terrorist attack beforehand......
I sometimes wonder if I live in an alternative reality. How do these people get such good well paying jobs?
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operation mockingbird
Starting to feel like Hamas made a mistake escalating this latest war.
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comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 3 minutes ago
Does Hamas have rockets this big I wonder? I don't remember a Hamas rocket ever causing this kind of damage.
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You dont believe Hamas is responsible now?
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What the faq are you on about?
The faq is wrong with these Israel backers? Such strange behaviour.
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 4 hours, 20 minutes ago
Starting to feel like Hamas made a mistake escalating this latest war.
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Gee, you're just now starting to feel like Hamas made a mistake escalating this "latest war?"
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posted 6 hours, 17 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
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comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
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comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 7 minutes ago
You can almost be certain this was Israel, they’ll do the same as Russia and say Hamas were using the hospital to store supplies or house soldiers.
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I suspect it probably is.
The global reaction to this attack on the hospital hasn't been good at all and rightly so and they have distanced themselves already.
Do we buy it? I suppose in an active war zone anything is possible but if I was a betting man that's an Israeli attack and they have panicked after seeing the horror that it caused and said it wasn't them.
Shameful. They have made their point now and need to stop the attacks immediately.
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There’s no probably about it.
They already admitted to it and then deleted the tweet.
https://x.com/dillyhussain88/status/1714396764264927531?s=46&t=5HQp5aA26-XBAkndVw5TdQ
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If that’s accurate, what the feck are Hamas playing at storing and firing munitions from hospitals?
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You'd think the Anglican church run hospital would never allow munitions to be stored at and fired from their hospital, no? Anything Israel want to hit they just hit and say munitions or Hamas fighters were hiding there. It's ridiculous the sheep still buy this sheet.
What about the UN run school they bombed earlier yesterday? Also storing munitions?
How did Israel know for sure munitions were stored there? With over 4,000 taking shelter at that hospital I wonder what amount of suspected munitions is worth risking all those lives? Next thing we'll hear is they had WMDs in there. Turns out we couldn't find the WMDs in Iraq because they hid them in Palestine.
What kind rockets do Hamas have I wonder? Hamas rockets that misfire and land within Gaza, or manage to hit Israel targets rarely kill more than a handful of people if any at all, but one misfired rocket happens to land spot on this hospital and cause enough damage to kill over 500.
OK geniuses.
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 6 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by Robb - Give Peace a Chance (U22716)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 52 seconds ago
Let’s be honest, they’re bad as each other. There will always be revenge to be had.
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That’s not honest though, in all these things look for the power balance. Israel has all the power so they are clearly the far bigger aggressor and have been doing this for decades and getting away with it. Doesn’t excuse the horrific things Hamas has done and I hope the terrorists are all hunted down and executed.
But Israel are the cause of this all
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It’s far more complex than that.
People seem to forget Hamas murdered hundreds of innocent civilians a week ago. Just because Israel have more firepower doesn’t excuse that.
And if it’s true they were setting up base in a hospital, then my god they’re even more vile than I thought.
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Why is your brain looking at this from a random starting point in the middle? And why doesn't this apply to Palestinians too?
"People seem to forget Israel murdered thousands and thousands of Palestinian civilians, mostly women and children, decade after decade, deny them basic human rights and control them like sheep. Just because Hamas did what they did last weekend doesn’t excuse that.
And if it’s not true they were setting up base in a hospital, then my god Israel is even more vile than I thought."
What's wrong about that statement?
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 5 hours, 26 minutes ago
I'm sorry now you're being pedantic.
Hamas complicit in the fact they attacked Israelis unprovoked at a music festival and at their homes and took hostages.
Without those actions the hospital is still standing right now isn't it so to say they aren't to blame is just utter lunacy. They are very much part of the problem too. It's not just Israel.
I don't agree with the reaction of Israel but I'm not surprised by it either and neither will Hamas be. Thats what makes this so so bad. They knew this would be the reaction and did it anyway.
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Unprovoked… this is comedic
They’re an occupying force in beach of multiple UN conventions
2) they’ve killing people in all year including children.
Just a small sample below
https://www.instagram.com/p/CuXmiz6u9m2/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
https://www.instagram.com/p/CwQgB5MIdub/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
https://www.instagram.com/p/CwW8BGhIEby/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cv2wFQ-IsBY/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
3) they continuously stormed Al Aqsa mosque including during Ramadan injuring and killing people in their place of worship
4) I could go in all day about children who have been imprisoned, tortured, killed including civilians from today all the way until 1948 when peace in the region was eradicated once and for all by Israel
To say an OCCUPYING force is in a defensive stance is laughable.
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This is the thing. The Hamas attack, and I'm not defending them here, isn't unprovoked.
And if you want to take it further, Israel has everyone serve in the army and can be called up in times of war. So any one above the age of 18 could be considered a legitimate target by the likes of Hamas as it is with the likes of the IDF. Both target civilians purposely. Both see them as potential attackers. They also target children.
What do you call Israel forcibly taking Palestinian men, women and children and putting them jail without charge for years? It is worse than Hamas kidnapping as at least you know why Hamas took them. These Palestoans can be taken on an IDD soldier's whims.
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 4 hours, 20 minutes ago
Starting to feel like Hamas made a mistake escalating this latest war.
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Gee, you're just now starting to feel like Hamas made a mistake escalating this "latest war?"
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Yeah, I made the mistake of reading the pro terrorism stuff on these threads lately initially.
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 4 hours, 20 minutes ago
Starting to feel like Hamas made a mistake escalating this latest war.
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Gee, you're just now starting to feel like Hamas made a mistake escalating this "latest war?"
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Yeah, I made the mistake of reading the pro terrorism stuff on these threads lately initially.
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Good. These terrorists have gone far enough anyway after bombing the hospital yesterday.
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posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 5 hours, 26 minutes ago
I'm sorry now you're being pedantic.
Hamas complicit in the fact they attacked Israelis unprovoked at a music festival and at their homes and took hostages.
Without those actions the hospital is still standing right now isn't it so to say they aren't to blame is just utter lunacy. They are very much part of the problem too. It's not just Israel.
I don't agree with the reaction of Israel but I'm not surprised by it either and neither will Hamas be. Thats what makes this so so bad. They knew this would be the reaction and did it anyway.
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Unprovoked… this is comedic
They’re an occupying force in beach of multiple UN conventions
2) they’ve killing people in all year including children.
Just a small sample below
https://www.instagram.com/p/CuXmiz6u9m2/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
https://www.instagram.com/p/CwQgB5MIdub/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
https://www.instagram.com/p/CwW8BGhIEby/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cv2wFQ-IsBY/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
3) they continuously stormed Al Aqsa mosque including during Ramadan injuring and killing people in their place of worship
4) I could go in all day about children who have been imprisoned, tortured, killed including civilians from today all the way until 1948 when peace in the region was eradicated once and for all by Israel
To say an OCCUPYING force is in a defensive stance is laughable.
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This is the thing. The Hamas attack, and I'm not defending them here, isn't unprovoked.
And if you want to take it further, Israel has everyone serve in the army and can be called up in times of war. So any one above the age of 18 could be considered a legitimate target by the likes of Hamas as it is with the likes of the IDF. Both target civilians purposely. Both see them as potential attackers. They also target children.
What do you call Israel forcibly taking Palestinian men, women and children and putting them jail without charge for years? It is worse than Hamas kidnapping as at least you know why Hamas took them. These Palestoans can be taken on an IDD soldier's whims.
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"This is the thing. The Hamas attack, and I'm not defending them here, isn't unprovoked."
Wow! Nice one there. Any idiot and his halfbreed son, all across from the stoutest pro-palestinian to his conterarch pro-Israeli knows life in the Gaza strip was not particularly pleasant. You are not defending them, but it is not unprovoked?!?!? Saying it is not unprovoked IS defending them! Not even 14 days since some of the most horrific events ever witnessed in our lifetime (including beheading babies), and it is already too difficult to call them what they are, and excuses are made for the perpetrators. Back to square one in the world of CurrentlyInPoland (and Kung Fu Cantona) : palestinian suffuring can, if only partly, justify anithying. Jews, however, can go farck themselves. Actually, anyone in Israel above the age of 18 is a legitimate target now, according to you. Mothers, fathers... It is Hamas tactics to mingle with their population and use them as human shields, I'll have you reminded.
"It is worse than Hamas kidnapping as at least you know why Hamas took them"
Have you no shame?!?! Hamas has kidnaped kids and babies, and you, apparently, know why?!?! Care to tell us which crime they committed? Yet other example that the desperate Palestinian can, but the Jew can't. And they did not just kidnapp. If only they had only done that. But they haven't, they did much mcuh more, and you know that very well. If you are too tired to account for all facts and contextualise, go take knap!
This one's for Kung Fu: " I could go on all day about children who have been imprisoned, tortured, killed including civilians from today all the way until 1948 when peace in the region was eradicated once and for all by Israel". Children being imprisoned, tortured and killed by Israel since 1948. Right, sure. What's next? Using their blood for the Sabbath ritual?!? Electronicintifada : now there's an objective reliable source...
The two of hou have brainwashed yourselves into believing Israel will deliberately target a hospital causing about 500 dead of all genres and ages, without any reason. Seems perfectly credible to you, while the Hamas monsters will find some excuses...
So here's a thought: if the Arabs, as they called themselves back then, wanted to have a say in Jewish emigration, maybe they should have saught independance BEFOREHAND, rather than as a reaction.
Now pi$$ off
Saying it is not unprovoked IS defending
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In what world?
Saying an attack is provoked is definitely not defending the attack.
To make this whole thing even more ridiculous is some people are actually arguing the attack was unprovoked. That's literally madness.
Wasn't the beheading babies story debunked? What planet has this guy been living on?
Another victim of the propaganda and disinformation.
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posted 10 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 5 minutes ago
Inequality, unemployment and downward wage pressures is the life we are currently living. Globalism proposes solutions to that.
War doesn't stop tyrants and dictators. It just replaces them with new dictators and tyrants.
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And you think the world can cooperate as one, providing the greater good for humanity?
The bloody EU can’t even agree on anything.
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Brexiteers argued that we must leave the EU due to the tyranny of having laws dictated by a single continental government. Actually, the EU was neither that, nor an entity that is unable to agree on anything.
It's a platform which has enabled a large number of countries to harmonise some of their laws and regulations in order to make trade easier and benefit common interests. Doing so isn't easy because different countries have different interests, but the difficult work has resulted in huge achievements in regulatory alignment that drive up environmental standards, worker rights, consumer protections, etc.
Only paranoid extremists and marginalised idealists are talking about a world government that's anywhere near as extensive in its reach as the EU. It's not going to happen. But international cooperation and collaboration is absolutely essential if we want to make any progress on the collective challenges facing humanity. Those things are indeed difficult, so Busby's suggestion seems to be to not bother.
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comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
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I'm sorry now you're being pedantic.
Hamas complicit in the fact they attacked Israelis unprovoked at a music festival and at their homes and took hostages.
Without those actions the hospital is still standing right now isn't it so to say they aren't to blame is just utter lunacy. They are very much part of the problem too. It's not just Israel.
I don't agree with the reaction of Israel but I'm not surprised by it either and neither will Hamas be. Thats what makes this so so bad. They knew this would be the reaction and did it anyway.
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Unprovoked… this is comedic
They’re an occupying force in beach of multiple UN conventions
2) they’ve killing people in all year including children.
Just a small sample below
https://www.instagram.com/p/CuXmiz6u9m2/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
https://www.instagram.com/p/CwQgB5MIdub/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
https://www.instagram.com/p/CwW8BGhIEby/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cv2wFQ-IsBY/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
3) they continuously stormed Al Aqsa mosque including during Ramadan injuring and killing people in their place of worship
4) I could go in all day about children who have been imprisoned, tortured, killed including civilians from today all the way until 1948 when peace in the region was eradicated once and for all by Israel
To say an OCCUPYING force is in a defensive stance is laughable.
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This is the thing. The Hamas attack, and I'm not defending them here, isn't unprovoked.
And if you want to take it further, Israel has everyone serve in the army and can be called up in times of war. So any one above the age of 18 could be considered a legitimate target by the likes of Hamas as it is with the likes of the IDF. Both target civilians purposely. Both see them as potential attackers. They also target children.
What do you call Israel forcibly taking Palestinian men, women and children and putting them jail without charge for years? It is worse than Hamas kidnapping as at least you know why Hamas took them. These Palestoans can be taken on an IDD soldier's whims.
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"This is the thing. The Hamas attack, and I'm not defending them here, isn't unprovoked."
Wow! Nice one there. Any idiot and his halfbreed son, all across from the stoutest pro-palestinian to his conterarch pro-Israeli knows life in the Gaza strip was not particularly pleasant. You are not defending them, but it is not unprovoked?!?!? Saying it is not unprovoked IS defending them! Not even 14 days since some of the most horrific events ever witnessed in our lifetime (including beheading babies), and it is already too difficult to call them what they are, and excuses are made for the perpetrators. Back to square one in the world of CurrentlyInPoland (and Kung Fu Cantona) : palestinian suffuring can, if only partly, justify anithying. Jews, however, can go farck themselves. Actually, anyone in Israel above the age of 18 is a legitimate target now, according to you. Mothers, fathers... It is Hamas tactics to mingle with their population and use them as human shields, I'll have you reminded.
"It is worse than Hamas kidnapping as at least you know why Hamas took them"
Have you no shame?!?! Hamas has kidnaped kids and babies, and you, apparently, know why?!?! Care to tell us which crime they committed? Yet other example that the desperate Palestinian can, but the Jew can't. And they did not just kidnapp. If only they had only done that. But they haven't, they did much mcuh more, and you know that very well. If you are too tired to account for all facts and contextualise, go take knap!
This one's for Kung Fu: " I could go on all day about children who have been imprisoned, tortured, killed including civilians from today all the way until 1948 when peace in the region was eradicated once and for all by Israel". Children being imprisoned, tortured and killed by Israel since 1948. Right, sure. What's next? Using their blood for the Sabbath ritual?!? Electronicintifada : now there's an objective reliable source...
The two of hou have brainwashed yourselves into believing Israel will deliberately target a hospital causing about 500 dead of all genres and ages, without any reason. Seems perfectly credible to you, while the Hamas monsters will find some excuses...
So here's a thought: if the Arabs, as they called themselves back then, wanted to have a say in Jewish emigration, maybe they should have saught independance BEFOREHAND, rather than as a reaction.
Now pi$$ off
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Touched a nerve. You support the killing and bombing hospitals? Denying Cancer patients treatment or stopping them from getting to their appointments? Do you support removing people from their homes and giving them to people from Europe, the US, etc. Due to their ethnicity?
The attack was not unprovoked is a fact (unlike the beheading of babies claim that proof is yet to be produced). This may sound offensive to you but it is a fact. Israel, the IDF and settlers have killed, removed and taken over of land from Palestinians. This is well documented. Including everything above I asked if you supported that.
Again arbitrary detention carried out by Israel and how these are used to get Palestinians to become informants is also well documented - children as well so don't give me your crocodile tears. Where are they for the Palestinian lives ruined? What about the children taken and held in prison for years? They don't matter to you? Is it because they're not Jewish?
Hamas has taken people to be exchanged for prisoners in Israeli prison, majority of them are held indefinitely on laws that only apply to Palestinians. Israeli bombing that has led to not only Hamas deaths and Palestinian ones but also those of the hostages shows which they care more for. To the hostages know why they are taken. Many Palestinians are imprisoned on the whims of IDF soldiers or for defending themselves against attacks by Israel. Israel has no moral superiority here.
Roads that are blocked off to make it only Jewish/Israeli roads. Taking over of homes. These are all ignored by the West and International community until an attack that happens.
Peaceful marches by Palestians has resulted in them being killed or maimed by IDF, with those especially targeting medics and journalists.
Israel has been attacking and killing Palestinians even before it's inception. Right now they are the occupiers. They are already in an offensive position.
The problem I have with people like you is that you excuse all the crimes done by Israel yet want unreserved condemnation of the Hamas attack. No, you have to condemn both when innocent lives are taken. Yet you and your racist ilk will not.
And the fact you think this attack is unprovoked shows a denying of history, the treatment of a people and the affront to call the occupation force that carries out atrocities as defending themselves. This is akin to arguing does a concentration camp guard has the right to defend itself against its prisoners.
I'll add, if you say Hamas is complicit in the Israeli attack against the hospital, then you must also say Israel is complicit in the Hamas attack.
But you'd never do that would you.
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 20 minutes ago
Wasn't the beheading babies story debunked? What planet has this guy been living on?
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No it hasn’t been debunked in the same way we still don’t know who fired the rocket yesterday. There is a reason they say the first casualty of war is the truth.
It is undeniable that Hamas killed children, absolutely proven. We have video of them killing unarmed and injured Israeli female soldiers. We have proof of them killing civilians doing no more than lying in their beds. We have proof of them parading bodies and hostages through streets of Gaza. Hamas must have known that Israel is not going to take that lightly - I mean what the faaaavk did they think would happen?
The only side I am on in this is that of the dead children on both sides who did absolutely nothing wrong.
You can find Israelis sitting on top of hills watching Gaza being bombed and cheering. You can see online some Jews and/or Israelis saying Gaza needs to be made into a parking lot.
If the same was said about Jews by Muslims or Arabs, they would be done on hate crimes.
The West has given the green light for Israel to commit war crimes. The fact that media outlets and even outspoken people like Piers Morgan are refusing to condemn such war crimes shows that MSM is biased here.
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Wasn't the beheading babies story debunked? What planet has this guy been living on?
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No it hasn’t been debunked in the same way we still don’t know who fired the rocket yesterday. There is a reason they say the first casualty of war is the truth.
It is undeniable that Hamas killed children, absolutely proven. We have video of them killing unarmed and injured Israeli female soldiers. We have proof of them killing civilians doing no more than lying in their beds. We have proof of them parading bodies and hostages through streets of Gaza. Hamas must have known that Israel is not going to take that lightly - I mean what the faaaavk did they think would happen?
The only side I am on in this is that of the dead children on both sides who did absolutely nothing wrong.
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Yes, the story hasn't been debunked nor proven.
I won't trust the IDF on this as they're no more trustful than Hamas. Ironically though, Israel has broken majority of any ceasefire agreements they have made than Hamas.
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posted on 18/10/23
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comment by Busby (U19985)
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You can almost be certain this was Israel, they’ll do the same as Russia and say Hamas were using the hospital to store supplies or house soldiers.
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I suspect it probably is.
The global reaction to this attack on the hospital hasn't been good at all and rightly so and they have distanced themselves already.
Do we buy it? I suppose in an active war zone anything is possible but if I was a betting man that's an Israeli attack and they have panicked after seeing the horror that it caused and said it wasn't them.
Shameful. They have made their point now and need to stop the attacks immediately.
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There’s no probably about it.
They already admitted to it and then deleted the tweet.
https://x.com/dillyhussain88/status/1714396764264927531?s=46&t=5HQp5aA26-XBAkndVw5TdQ
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If that’s accurate, what the feck are Hamas playing at storing and firing munitions from hospitals?
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Because that's what cowards do. They attack and then hide among innocent people.
They can't win this fight and they know that. Beggars belief.
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There was a documentary on Al Jazeera where an IDF spokesperson said a hospital is not seen as a hospital if they suspect Hamas activity. Palestinians are just collateral damage.
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I can believe it. Nothing surprises me anymore.
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They’ve already said they make no distinction between Hamas and Civilians multiple times.
The fact you’re trying to place blame on Hamas for Israel blowing up hundreds of civilians is just war crimes washing.
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Eh? How did you reach that conclusion you absolute plank?
I think the reaction from Israel has been horrific and abhorrent although not unexpected.
If you can't admit that Hamas are complicit in all this then you're clueless.
I wasn't taking sides. I never have with this endless war.
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Hamas complicit in blowing up the hospital? The missiles used were USA supplied!
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I'm sorry now you're being pedantic.
Hamas complicit in the fact they attacked Israelis unprovoked at a music festival and at their homes and took hostages.
Without those actions the hospital is still standing right now isn't it so to say they aren't to blame is just utter lunacy. They are very much part of the problem too. It's not just Israel.
I don't agree with the reaction of Israel but I'm not surprised by it either and neither will Hamas be. Thats what makes this so so bad. They knew this would be the reaction and did it anyway.
posted on 18/10/23
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comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 7 minutes ago
You can almost be certain this was Israel, they’ll do the same as Russia and say Hamas were using the hospital to store supplies or house soldiers.
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I suspect it probably is.
The global reaction to this attack on the hospital hasn't been good at all and rightly so and they have distanced themselves already.
Do we buy it? I suppose in an active war zone anything is possible but if I was a betting man that's an Israeli attack and they have panicked after seeing the horror that it caused and said it wasn't them.
Shameful. They have made their point now and need to stop the attacks immediately.
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There’s no probably about it.
They already admitted to it and then deleted the tweet.
https://x.com/dillyhussain88/status/1714396764264927531?s=46&t=5HQp5aA26-XBAkndVw5TdQ
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If that’s accurate, what the feck are Hamas playing at storing and firing munitions from hospitals?
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Because that's what cowards do. They attack and then hide among innocent people.
They can't win this fight and they know that. Beggars belief.
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There was a documentary on Al Jazeera where an IDF spokesperson said a hospital is not seen as a hospital if they suspect Hamas activity. Palestinians are just collateral damage.
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I can believe it. Nothing surprises me anymore.
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They’ve already said they make no distinction between Hamas and Civilians multiple times.
The fact you’re trying to place blame on Hamas for Israel blowing up hundreds of civilians is just war crimes washing.
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Eh? How did you reach that conclusion you absolute plank?
I think the reaction from Israel has been horrific and abhorrent although not unexpected.
If you can't admit that Hamas are complicit in all this then you're clueless.
I wasn't taking sides. I never have with this endless war.
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Hamas complicit in blowing up the hospital? The missiles used were USA supplied!
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I'm sorry now you're being pedantic.
Hamas complicit in the fact they attacked Israelis unprovoked at a music festival and at their homes and took hostages.
Without those actions the hospital is still standing right now isn't it so to say they aren't to blame is just utter lunacy. They are very much part of the problem too. It's not just Israel.
I don't agree with the reaction of Israel but I'm not surprised by it either and neither will Hamas be. Thats what makes this so so bad. They knew this would be the reaction and did it anyway.
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I think you are leveling this at the wrong person. I have never said Hamas were not responsible for the attack on Israelis, they were!
I meant the hospital and the hospital alone. They are not complicit on this respect.
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comment by Busby (U19985)
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You can almost be certain this was Israel, they’ll do the same as Russia and say Hamas were using the hospital to store supplies or house soldiers.
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I suspect it probably is.
The global reaction to this attack on the hospital hasn't been good at all and rightly so and they have distanced themselves already.
Do we buy it? I suppose in an active war zone anything is possible but if I was a betting man that's an Israeli attack and they have panicked after seeing the horror that it caused and said it wasn't them.
Shameful. They have made their point now and need to stop the attacks immediately.
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There’s no probably about it.
They already admitted to it and then deleted the tweet.
https://x.com/dillyhussain88/status/1714396764264927531?s=46&t=5HQp5aA26-XBAkndVw5TdQ
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If that’s accurate, what the feck are Hamas playing at storing and firing munitions from hospitals?
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Because that's what cowards do. They attack and then hide among innocent people.
They can't win this fight and they know that. Beggars belief.
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There was a documentary on Al Jazeera where an IDF spokesperson said a hospital is not seen as a hospital if they suspect Hamas activity. Palestinians are just collateral damage.
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I can believe it. Nothing surprises me anymore.
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They’ve already said they make no distinction between Hamas and Civilians multiple times.
The fact you’re trying to place blame on Hamas for Israel blowing up hundreds of civilians is just war crimes washing.
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Eh? How did you reach that conclusion you absolute plank?
I think the reaction from Israel has been horrific and abhorrent although not unexpected.
If you can't admit that Hamas are complicit in all this then you're clueless.
I wasn't taking sides. I never have with this endless war.
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Hamas complicit in blowing up the hospital? The missiles used were USA supplied!
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I'm sorry now you're being pedantic.
Hamas complicit in the fact they attacked Israelis unprovoked at a music festival and at their homes and took hostages.
Without those actions the hospital is still standing right now isn't it so to say they aren't to blame is just utter lunacy. They are very much part of the problem too. It's not just Israel.
I don't agree with the reaction of Israel but I'm not surprised by it either and neither will Hamas be. Thats what makes this so so bad. They knew this would be the reaction and did it anyway.
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I think you are leveling this at the wrong person. I have never said Hamas were not responsible for the attack on Israelis, they were!
I meant the hospital and the hospital alone. They are not complicit on this respect.
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Sorry I was confused there for a second. I thought you were speaking generally. I don't buy the BS from Israel either about the misfired Jihad rocket.
I have never took sides on this conflict. I think there are massive evils on both sides and I firmly believe religion is the root of all evil in the word. That and greed of course.
Let's hope we get some sanity prevailing tomorrow. If those horrific scenes don't bring about some caution and bring about a cease fire then what will?
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comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 7 minutes ago
You can almost be certain this was Israel, they’ll do the same as Russia and say Hamas were using the hospital to store supplies or house soldiers.
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I suspect it probably is.
The global reaction to this attack on the hospital hasn't been good at all and rightly so and they have distanced themselves already.
Do we buy it? I suppose in an active war zone anything is possible but if I was a betting man that's an Israeli attack and they have panicked after seeing the horror that it caused and said it wasn't them.
Shameful. They have made their point now and need to stop the attacks immediately.
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There’s no probably about it.
They already admitted to it and then deleted the tweet.
https://x.com/dillyhussain88/status/1714396764264927531?s=46&t=5HQp5aA26-XBAkndVw5TdQ
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If that’s accurate, what the feck are Hamas playing at storing and firing munitions from hospitals?
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Because that's what cowards do. They attack and then hide among innocent people.
They can't win this fight and they know that. Beggars belief.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There was a documentary on Al Jazeera where an IDF spokesperson said a hospital is not seen as a hospital if they suspect Hamas activity. Palestinians are just collateral damage.
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I can believe it. Nothing surprises me anymore.
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They’ve already said they make no distinction between Hamas and Civilians multiple times.
The fact you’re trying to place blame on Hamas for Israel blowing up hundreds of civilians is just war crimes washing.
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Eh? How did you reach that conclusion you absolute plank?
I think the reaction from Israel has been horrific and abhorrent although not unexpected.
If you can't admit that Hamas are complicit in all this then you're clueless.
I wasn't taking sides. I never have with this endless war.
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Hamas complicit in blowing up the hospital? The missiles used were USA supplied!
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I'm sorry now you're being pedantic.
Hamas complicit in the fact they attacked Israelis unprovoked at a music festival and at their homes and took hostages.
Without those actions the hospital is still standing right now isn't it so to say they aren't to blame is just utter lunacy. They are very much part of the problem too. It's not just Israel.
I don't agree with the reaction of Israel but I'm not surprised by it either and neither will Hamas be. Thats what makes this so so bad. They knew this would be the reaction and did it anyway.
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I think you are leveling this at the wrong person. I have never said Hamas were not responsible for the attack on Israelis, they were!
I meant the hospital and the hospital alone. They are not complicit on this respect.
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Sorry I was confused there for a second. I thought you were speaking generally. I don't buy the BS from Israel either about the misfired Jihad rocket.
I have never took sides on this conflict. I think there are massive evils on both sides and I firmly believe religion is the root of all evil in the word. That and greed of course.
Let's hope we get some sanity prevailing tomorrow. If those horrific scenes don't bring about some caution and bring about a cease fire then what will?
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I find the loss of innocent life such a waste, be it Israeli or Palestinian, whatever the ethnicity - all human life is important to me. Such waste of potential.
posted on 18/10/23
I'm sorry now you're being pedantic.
Hamas complicit in the fact they attacked Israelis unprovoked at a music festival and at their homes and took hostages.
Without those actions the hospital is still standing right now isn't it so to say they aren't to blame is just utter lunacy. They are very much part of the problem too. It's not just Israel.
I don't agree with the reaction of Israel but I'm not surprised by it either and neither will Hamas be. Thats what makes this so so bad. They knew this would be the reaction and did it anyway.
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Unprovoked… this is comedic
They’re an occupying force in beach of multiple UN conventions
2) they’ve killing people in all year including children.
Just a small sample below
https://www.instagram.com/p/CuXmiz6u9m2/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
https://www.instagram.com/p/CwQgB5MIdub/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
https://www.instagram.com/p/CwW8BGhIEby/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cv2wFQ-IsBY/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
3) they continuously stormed Al Aqsa mosque including during Ramadan injuring and killing people in their place of worship
4) I could go in all day about children who have been imprisoned, tortured, killed including civilians from today all the way until 1948 when peace in the region was eradicated once and for all by Israel
To say an OCCUPYING force is in a defensive stance is laughable.
posted on 18/10/23
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
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comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 7 minutes ago
You can almost be certain this was Israel, they’ll do the same as Russia and say Hamas were using the hospital to store supplies or house soldiers.
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I suspect it probably is.
The global reaction to this attack on the hospital hasn't been good at all and rightly so and they have distanced themselves already.
Do we buy it? I suppose in an active war zone anything is possible but if I was a betting man that's an Israeli attack and they have panicked after seeing the horror that it caused and said it wasn't them.
Shameful. They have made their point now and need to stop the attacks immediately.
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There’s no probably about it.
They already admitted to it and then deleted the tweet.
https://x.com/dillyhussain88/status/1714396764264927531?s=46&t=5HQp5aA26-XBAkndVw5TdQ
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If that’s accurate, what the feck are Hamas playing at storing and firing munitions from hospitals?
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Because that's what cowards do. They attack and then hide among innocent people.
They can't win this fight and they know that. Beggars belief.
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There was a documentary on Al Jazeera where an IDF spokesperson said a hospital is not seen as a hospital if they suspect Hamas activity. Palestinians are just collateral damage.
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I can believe it. Nothing surprises me anymore.
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They’ve already said they make no distinction between Hamas and Civilians multiple times.
The fact you’re trying to place blame on Hamas for Israel blowing up hundreds of civilians is just war crimes washing.
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Eh? How did you reach that conclusion you absolute plank?
I think the reaction from Israel has been horrific and abhorrent although not unexpected.
If you can't admit that Hamas are complicit in all this then you're clueless.
I wasn't taking sides. I never have with this endless war.
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Hamas complicit in blowing up the hospital? The missiles used were USA supplied!
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I'm sorry now you're being pedantic.
Hamas complicit in the fact they attacked Israelis unprovoked at a music festival and at their homes and took hostages.
Without those actions the hospital is still standing right now isn't it so to say they aren't to blame is just utter lunacy. They are very much part of the problem too. It's not just Israel.
I don't agree with the reaction of Israel but I'm not surprised by it either and neither will Hamas be. Thats what makes this so so bad. They knew this would be the reaction and did it anyway.
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I think you are leveling this at the wrong person. I have never said Hamas were not responsible for the attack on Israelis, they were!
I meant the hospital and the hospital alone. They are not complicit on this respect.
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Sorry I was confused there for a second. I thought you were speaking generally. I don't buy the BS from Israel either about the misfired Jihad rocket.
I have never took sides on this conflict. I think there are massive evils on both sides and I firmly believe religion is the root of all evil in the word. That and greed of course.
Let's hope we get some sanity prevailing tomorrow. If those horrific scenes don't bring about some caution and bring about a cease fire then what will?
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I find the loss of innocent life such a waste, be it Israeli or Palestinian, whatever the ethnicity - all human life is important to me. Such waste of potential.
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All belief systems have a fundamental, highly right wing element, it is not the religion per se it is the interpretation of a few nutcases unfortunately.
posted on 18/10/23
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 hours, 6 minutes ago
Richard Madley on TV asking a British MP with Palestinian roots if her or anyone she knows knew about the terrorist attack beforehand......
I sometimes wonder if I live in an alternative reality. How do these people get such good well paying jobs?
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operation mockingbird
posted on 18/10/23
Starting to feel like Hamas made a mistake escalating this latest war.
posted on 18/10/23
comment by Redastomatoes- Feels very Moyesian...cleverson forever!If he is good enough he is ready! (U12026)
posted 7 hours, 19 minutes ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 3 minutes ago
Does Hamas have rockets this big I wonder? I don't remember a Hamas rocket ever causing this kind of damage.
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You dont believe Hamas is responsible now?
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What the faq are you on about?
The faq is wrong with these Israel backers? Such strange behaviour.
posted on 18/10/23
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 4 hours, 20 minutes ago
Starting to feel like Hamas made a mistake escalating this latest war.
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Gee, you're just now starting to feel like Hamas made a mistake escalating this "latest war?"
posted on 18/10/23
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 6 hours, 17 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 7 minutes ago
You can almost be certain this was Israel, they’ll do the same as Russia and say Hamas were using the hospital to store supplies or house soldiers.
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I suspect it probably is.
The global reaction to this attack on the hospital hasn't been good at all and rightly so and they have distanced themselves already.
Do we buy it? I suppose in an active war zone anything is possible but if I was a betting man that's an Israeli attack and they have panicked after seeing the horror that it caused and said it wasn't them.
Shameful. They have made their point now and need to stop the attacks immediately.
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There’s no probably about it.
They already admitted to it and then deleted the tweet.
https://x.com/dillyhussain88/status/1714396764264927531?s=46&t=5HQp5aA26-XBAkndVw5TdQ
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If that’s accurate, what the feck are Hamas playing at storing and firing munitions from hospitals?
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You'd think the Anglican church run hospital would never allow munitions to be stored at and fired from their hospital, no? Anything Israel want to hit they just hit and say munitions or Hamas fighters were hiding there. It's ridiculous the sheep still buy this sheet.
What about the UN run school they bombed earlier yesterday? Also storing munitions?
How did Israel know for sure munitions were stored there? With over 4,000 taking shelter at that hospital I wonder what amount of suspected munitions is worth risking all those lives? Next thing we'll hear is they had WMDs in there. Turns out we couldn't find the WMDs in Iraq because they hid them in Palestine.
What kind rockets do Hamas have I wonder? Hamas rockets that misfire and land within Gaza, or manage to hit Israel targets rarely kill more than a handful of people if any at all, but one misfired rocket happens to land spot on this hospital and cause enough damage to kill over 500.
OK geniuses.
posted on 18/10/23
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 6 hours, 24 minutes ago
comment by Robb - Give Peace a Chance (U22716)
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comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 52 seconds ago
Let’s be honest, they’re bad as each other. There will always be revenge to be had.
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That’s not honest though, in all these things look for the power balance. Israel has all the power so they are clearly the far bigger aggressor and have been doing this for decades and getting away with it. Doesn’t excuse the horrific things Hamas has done and I hope the terrorists are all hunted down and executed.
But Israel are the cause of this all
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It’s far more complex than that.
People seem to forget Hamas murdered hundreds of innocent civilians a week ago. Just because Israel have more firepower doesn’t excuse that.
And if it’s true they were setting up base in a hospital, then my god they’re even more vile than I thought.
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Why is your brain looking at this from a random starting point in the middle? And why doesn't this apply to Palestinians too?
"People seem to forget Israel murdered thousands and thousands of Palestinian civilians, mostly women and children, decade after decade, deny them basic human rights and control them like sheep. Just because Hamas did what they did last weekend doesn’t excuse that.
And if it’s not true they were setting up base in a hospital, then my god Israel is even more vile than I thought."
What's wrong about that statement?
posted on 18/10/23
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 5 hours, 26 minutes ago
I'm sorry now you're being pedantic.
Hamas complicit in the fact they attacked Israelis unprovoked at a music festival and at their homes and took hostages.
Without those actions the hospital is still standing right now isn't it so to say they aren't to blame is just utter lunacy. They are very much part of the problem too. It's not just Israel.
I don't agree with the reaction of Israel but I'm not surprised by it either and neither will Hamas be. Thats what makes this so so bad. They knew this would be the reaction and did it anyway.
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Unprovoked… this is comedic
They’re an occupying force in beach of multiple UN conventions
2) they’ve killing people in all year including children.
Just a small sample below
https://www.instagram.com/p/CuXmiz6u9m2/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
https://www.instagram.com/p/CwQgB5MIdub/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
https://www.instagram.com/p/CwW8BGhIEby/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cv2wFQ-IsBY/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
3) they continuously stormed Al Aqsa mosque including during Ramadan injuring and killing people in their place of worship
4) I could go in all day about children who have been imprisoned, tortured, killed including civilians from today all the way until 1948 when peace in the region was eradicated once and for all by Israel
To say an OCCUPYING force is in a defensive stance is laughable.
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This is the thing. The Hamas attack, and I'm not defending them here, isn't unprovoked.
And if you want to take it further, Israel has everyone serve in the army and can be called up in times of war. So any one above the age of 18 could be considered a legitimate target by the likes of Hamas as it is with the likes of the IDF. Both target civilians purposely. Both see them as potential attackers. They also target children.
What do you call Israel forcibly taking Palestinian men, women and children and putting them jail without charge for years? It is worse than Hamas kidnapping as at least you know why Hamas took them. These Palestoans can be taken on an IDD soldier's whims.
posted on 18/10/23
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 4 hours, 20 minutes ago
Starting to feel like Hamas made a mistake escalating this latest war.
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Gee, you're just now starting to feel like Hamas made a mistake escalating this "latest war?"
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Yeah, I made the mistake of reading the pro terrorism stuff on these threads lately initially.
posted on 18/10/23
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance.....WOLVES V GRIMSBY. .......lolz (U11551)
posted 4 hours, 20 minutes ago
Starting to feel like Hamas made a mistake escalating this latest war.
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Gee, you're just now starting to feel like Hamas made a mistake escalating this "latest war?"
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Yeah, I made the mistake of reading the pro terrorism stuff on these threads lately initially.
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Good. These terrorists have gone far enough anyway after bombing the hospital yesterday.
posted on 18/10/23
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 5 hours, 26 minutes ago
I'm sorry now you're being pedantic.
Hamas complicit in the fact they attacked Israelis unprovoked at a music festival and at their homes and took hostages.
Without those actions the hospital is still standing right now isn't it so to say they aren't to blame is just utter lunacy. They are very much part of the problem too. It's not just Israel.
I don't agree with the reaction of Israel but I'm not surprised by it either and neither will Hamas be. Thats what makes this so so bad. They knew this would be the reaction and did it anyway.
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Unprovoked… this is comedic
They’re an occupying force in beach of multiple UN conventions
2) they’ve killing people in all year including children.
Just a small sample below
https://www.instagram.com/p/CuXmiz6u9m2/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
https://www.instagram.com/p/CwQgB5MIdub/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
https://www.instagram.com/p/CwW8BGhIEby/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cv2wFQ-IsBY/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
3) they continuously stormed Al Aqsa mosque including during Ramadan injuring and killing people in their place of worship
4) I could go in all day about children who have been imprisoned, tortured, killed including civilians from today all the way until 1948 when peace in the region was eradicated once and for all by Israel
To say an OCCUPYING force is in a defensive stance is laughable.
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This is the thing. The Hamas attack, and I'm not defending them here, isn't unprovoked.
And if you want to take it further, Israel has everyone serve in the army and can be called up in times of war. So any one above the age of 18 could be considered a legitimate target by the likes of Hamas as it is with the likes of the IDF. Both target civilians purposely. Both see them as potential attackers. They also target children.
What do you call Israel forcibly taking Palestinian men, women and children and putting them jail without charge for years? It is worse than Hamas kidnapping as at least you know why Hamas took them. These Palestoans can be taken on an IDD soldier's whims.
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"This is the thing. The Hamas attack, and I'm not defending them here, isn't unprovoked."
Wow! Nice one there. Any idiot and his halfbreed son, all across from the stoutest pro-palestinian to his conterarch pro-Israeli knows life in the Gaza strip was not particularly pleasant. You are not defending them, but it is not unprovoked?!?!? Saying it is not unprovoked IS defending them! Not even 14 days since some of the most horrific events ever witnessed in our lifetime (including beheading babies), and it is already too difficult to call them what they are, and excuses are made for the perpetrators. Back to square one in the world of CurrentlyInPoland (and Kung Fu Cantona) : palestinian suffuring can, if only partly, justify anithying. Jews, however, can go farck themselves. Actually, anyone in Israel above the age of 18 is a legitimate target now, according to you. Mothers, fathers... It is Hamas tactics to mingle with their population and use them as human shields, I'll have you reminded.
"It is worse than Hamas kidnapping as at least you know why Hamas took them"
Have you no shame?!?! Hamas has kidnaped kids and babies, and you, apparently, know why?!?! Care to tell us which crime they committed? Yet other example that the desperate Palestinian can, but the Jew can't. And they did not just kidnapp. If only they had only done that. But they haven't, they did much mcuh more, and you know that very well. If you are too tired to account for all facts and contextualise, go take knap!
This one's for Kung Fu: " I could go on all day about children who have been imprisoned, tortured, killed including civilians from today all the way until 1948 when peace in the region was eradicated once and for all by Israel". Children being imprisoned, tortured and killed by Israel since 1948. Right, sure. What's next? Using their blood for the Sabbath ritual?!? Electronicintifada : now there's an objective reliable source...
The two of hou have brainwashed yourselves into believing Israel will deliberately target a hospital causing about 500 dead of all genres and ages, without any reason. Seems perfectly credible to you, while the Hamas monsters will find some excuses...
So here's a thought: if the Arabs, as they called themselves back then, wanted to have a say in Jewish emigration, maybe they should have saught independance BEFOREHAND, rather than as a reaction.
Now pi$$ off
posted on 18/10/23
Saying it is not unprovoked IS defending
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In what world?
Saying an attack is provoked is definitely not defending the attack.
To make this whole thing even more ridiculous is some people are actually arguing the attack was unprovoked. That's literally madness.
posted on 18/10/23
Wasn't the beheading babies story debunked? What planet has this guy been living on?
posted on 18/10/23
Another victim of the propaganda and disinformation.
posted on 18/10/23
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 10 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 5 minutes ago
Inequality, unemployment and downward wage pressures is the life we are currently living. Globalism proposes solutions to that.
War doesn't stop tyrants and dictators. It just replaces them with new dictators and tyrants.
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And you think the world can cooperate as one, providing the greater good for humanity?
The bloody EU can’t even agree on anything.
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Brexiteers argued that we must leave the EU due to the tyranny of having laws dictated by a single continental government. Actually, the EU was neither that, nor an entity that is unable to agree on anything.
It's a platform which has enabled a large number of countries to harmonise some of their laws and regulations in order to make trade easier and benefit common interests. Doing so isn't easy because different countries have different interests, but the difficult work has resulted in huge achievements in regulatory alignment that drive up environmental standards, worker rights, consumer protections, etc.
Only paranoid extremists and marginalised idealists are talking about a world government that's anywhere near as extensive in its reach as the EU. It's not going to happen. But international cooperation and collaboration is absolutely essential if we want to make any progress on the collective challenges facing humanity. Those things are indeed difficult, so Busby's suggestion seems to be to not bother.
posted on 18/10/23
comment by Lionkay (U10690)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 5 hours, 26 minutes ago
I'm sorry now you're being pedantic.
Hamas complicit in the fact they attacked Israelis unprovoked at a music festival and at their homes and took hostages.
Without those actions the hospital is still standing right now isn't it so to say they aren't to blame is just utter lunacy. They are very much part of the problem too. It's not just Israel.
I don't agree with the reaction of Israel but I'm not surprised by it either and neither will Hamas be. Thats what makes this so so bad. They knew this would be the reaction and did it anyway.
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Unprovoked… this is comedic
They’re an occupying force in beach of multiple UN conventions
2) they’ve killing people in all year including children.
Just a small sample below
https://www.instagram.com/p/CuXmiz6u9m2/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
https://www.instagram.com/p/CwQgB5MIdub/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
https://www.instagram.com/p/CwW8BGhIEby/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cv2wFQ-IsBY/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
3) they continuously stormed Al Aqsa mosque including during Ramadan injuring and killing people in their place of worship
4) I could go in all day about children who have been imprisoned, tortured, killed including civilians from today all the way until 1948 when peace in the region was eradicated once and for all by Israel
To say an OCCUPYING force is in a defensive stance is laughable.
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This is the thing. The Hamas attack, and I'm not defending them here, isn't unprovoked.
And if you want to take it further, Israel has everyone serve in the army and can be called up in times of war. So any one above the age of 18 could be considered a legitimate target by the likes of Hamas as it is with the likes of the IDF. Both target civilians purposely. Both see them as potential attackers. They also target children.
What do you call Israel forcibly taking Palestinian men, women and children and putting them jail without charge for years? It is worse than Hamas kidnapping as at least you know why Hamas took them. These Palestoans can be taken on an IDD soldier's whims.
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"This is the thing. The Hamas attack, and I'm not defending them here, isn't unprovoked."
Wow! Nice one there. Any idiot and his halfbreed son, all across from the stoutest pro-palestinian to his conterarch pro-Israeli knows life in the Gaza strip was not particularly pleasant. You are not defending them, but it is not unprovoked?!?!? Saying it is not unprovoked IS defending them! Not even 14 days since some of the most horrific events ever witnessed in our lifetime (including beheading babies), and it is already too difficult to call them what they are, and excuses are made for the perpetrators. Back to square one in the world of CurrentlyInPoland (and Kung Fu Cantona) : palestinian suffuring can, if only partly, justify anithying. Jews, however, can go farck themselves. Actually, anyone in Israel above the age of 18 is a legitimate target now, according to you. Mothers, fathers... It is Hamas tactics to mingle with their population and use them as human shields, I'll have you reminded.
"It is worse than Hamas kidnapping as at least you know why Hamas took them"
Have you no shame?!?! Hamas has kidnaped kids and babies, and you, apparently, know why?!?! Care to tell us which crime they committed? Yet other example that the desperate Palestinian can, but the Jew can't. And they did not just kidnapp. If only they had only done that. But they haven't, they did much mcuh more, and you know that very well. If you are too tired to account for all facts and contextualise, go take knap!
This one's for Kung Fu: " I could go on all day about children who have been imprisoned, tortured, killed including civilians from today all the way until 1948 when peace in the region was eradicated once and for all by Israel". Children being imprisoned, tortured and killed by Israel since 1948. Right, sure. What's next? Using their blood for the Sabbath ritual?!? Electronicintifada : now there's an objective reliable source...
The two of hou have brainwashed yourselves into believing Israel will deliberately target a hospital causing about 500 dead of all genres and ages, without any reason. Seems perfectly credible to you, while the Hamas monsters will find some excuses...
So here's a thought: if the Arabs, as they called themselves back then, wanted to have a say in Jewish emigration, maybe they should have saught independance BEFOREHAND, rather than as a reaction.
Now pi$$ off
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Touched a nerve. You support the killing and bombing hospitals? Denying Cancer patients treatment or stopping them from getting to their appointments? Do you support removing people from their homes and giving them to people from Europe, the US, etc. Due to their ethnicity?
The attack was not unprovoked is a fact (unlike the beheading of babies claim that proof is yet to be produced). This may sound offensive to you but it is a fact. Israel, the IDF and settlers have killed, removed and taken over of land from Palestinians. This is well documented. Including everything above I asked if you supported that.
Again arbitrary detention carried out by Israel and how these are used to get Palestinians to become informants is also well documented - children as well so don't give me your crocodile tears. Where are they for the Palestinian lives ruined? What about the children taken and held in prison for years? They don't matter to you? Is it because they're not Jewish?
Hamas has taken people to be exchanged for prisoners in Israeli prison, majority of them are held indefinitely on laws that only apply to Palestinians. Israeli bombing that has led to not only Hamas deaths and Palestinian ones but also those of the hostages shows which they care more for. To the hostages know why they are taken. Many Palestinians are imprisoned on the whims of IDF soldiers or for defending themselves against attacks by Israel. Israel has no moral superiority here.
Roads that are blocked off to make it only Jewish/Israeli roads. Taking over of homes. These are all ignored by the West and International community until an attack that happens.
Peaceful marches by Palestians has resulted in them being killed or maimed by IDF, with those especially targeting medics and journalists.
Israel has been attacking and killing Palestinians even before it's inception. Right now they are the occupiers. They are already in an offensive position.
The problem I have with people like you is that you excuse all the crimes done by Israel yet want unreserved condemnation of the Hamas attack. No, you have to condemn both when innocent lives are taken. Yet you and your racist ilk will not.
And the fact you think this attack is unprovoked shows a denying of history, the treatment of a people and the affront to call the occupation force that carries out atrocities as defending themselves. This is akin to arguing does a concentration camp guard has the right to defend itself against its prisoners.
posted on 18/10/23
I'll add, if you say Hamas is complicit in the Israeli attack against the hospital, then you must also say Israel is complicit in the Hamas attack.
But you'd never do that would you.
posted on 18/10/23
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 20 minutes ago
Wasn't the beheading babies story debunked? What planet has this guy been living on?
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No it hasn’t been debunked in the same way we still don’t know who fired the rocket yesterday. There is a reason they say the first casualty of war is the truth.
It is undeniable that Hamas killed children, absolutely proven. We have video of them killing unarmed and injured Israeli female soldiers. We have proof of them killing civilians doing no more than lying in their beds. We have proof of them parading bodies and hostages through streets of Gaza. Hamas must have known that Israel is not going to take that lightly - I mean what the faaaavk did they think would happen?
The only side I am on in this is that of the dead children on both sides who did absolutely nothing wrong.
posted on 18/10/23
You can find Israelis sitting on top of hills watching Gaza being bombed and cheering. You can see online some Jews and/or Israelis saying Gaza needs to be made into a parking lot.
If the same was said about Jews by Muslims or Arabs, they would be done on hate crimes.
The West has given the green light for Israel to commit war crimes. The fact that media outlets and even outspoken people like Piers Morgan are refusing to condemn such war crimes shows that MSM is biased here.
posted on 18/10/23
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club... (U18109)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 20 minutes ago
Wasn't the beheading babies story debunked? What planet has this guy been living on?
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No it hasn’t been debunked in the same way we still don’t know who fired the rocket yesterday. There is a reason they say the first casualty of war is the truth.
It is undeniable that Hamas killed children, absolutely proven. We have video of them killing unarmed and injured Israeli female soldiers. We have proof of them killing civilians doing no more than lying in their beds. We have proof of them parading bodies and hostages through streets of Gaza. Hamas must have known that Israel is not going to take that lightly - I mean what the faaaavk did they think would happen?
The only side I am on in this is that of the dead children on both sides who did absolutely nothing wrong.
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Yes, the story hasn't been debunked nor proven.
I won't trust the IDF on this as they're no more trustful than Hamas. Ironically though, Israel has broken majority of any ceasefire agreements they have made than Hamas.
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