Another term that Israelis use is "mowing the lawn" and they say it's something they do every few years.
Israel fired warning shells at hospital
https://youtu.be/x9-XPw8bixg?si=oAOL0wYSMS9mA2ld
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 8 minutes ago
Israel fired warning shells at hospital
https://youtu.be/x9-XPw8bixg?si=oAOL0wYSMS9mA2ld
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So they did target the hospital.
Guys, do we really need to take sides?
Both sides are killing kids FFS.
comment by Clive Bissel (U22987)
posted 1 minute ago
Guys, do we really need to take sides?
Both sides are killing kids FFS.
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This is not a equal war. Palestine does not have a army they are being oppressed by Isrealis for years. The attack on Israel is a consequence of those apartheid policies. In what way is Israels response equal? They openly admit that they to not consider palestinians human. The unconditional backing of Israel by the West is a huge barrier to finding a peaceful resolution.
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 1 hour ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 20 minutes ago
Wasn't the beheading babies story debunked? What planet has this guy been living on?
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No it hasn’t been debunked in the same way we still don’t know who fired the rocket yesterday. There is a reason they say the first casualty of war is the truth.
It is undeniable that Hamas killed children, absolutely proven. We have video of them killing unarmed and injured Israeli female soldiers. We have proof of them killing civilians doing no more than lying in their beds. We have proof of them parading bodies and hostages through streets of Gaza. Hamas must have known that Israel is not going to take that lightly - I mean what the faaaavk did they think would happen?
The only side I am on in this is that of the dead children on both sides who did absolutely nothing wrong.
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Hamas are a terrorist organisation. Israel are a supposed democratic country that has been slaughtering Palestinian women and children for decades. So right back at you, because what did Israel think would happen after occupying and overseeing apartheid over Palestinians. A violent uprising like Hamas is guaranteed to happen in such a scenario as we have seen throughout history every single time without fail.
I don't advocate for killing of innocents of course but this both sides bullsheet is incredible to me. It's Israel that treats Palestinians as sub human. Palestinians want freedom like you and me and Hamas came into existence while Israel watched. What is it that you don't understand there?
Attacks like last Saturday can never be stopped except by granting Palestinians their freedom. If you kill all Hamas and don't solve the root problem then others will just replace them because the reasons for Hamas to exist have not been addressed. Resistance is immortal unless freedom is achieved. Israel is creating future Hamas loyalists as we speak and the cycle will continue. Oppressed people react violently everytime, without fail.
So what are Israel expecting? Palestinians to take it up the rear decade after decade and nothing to ever happen?
https://x.com/DrRoundglasses/status/1714538366585258450?s=20
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 2 minutes ago
https://x.com/DrRoundglasses/status/1714538366585258450?s=20
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Bang on its happening as we speak.
comment by Pedro Poridge at the love Parade (U6468)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Clive Bissel (U22987)
posted 1 minute ago
Guys, do we really need to take sides?
Both sides are killing kids FFS.
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This is not a equal war. Palestine does not have a army they are being oppressed by Isrealis for years. The attack on Israel is a consequence of those apartheid policies. In what way is Israels response equal? They openly admit that they to not consider palestinians human. The unconditional backing of Israel by the West is a huge barrier to finding a peaceful resolution.
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I'm no longer interested in the politics. Its too big and emotive a subject, and one that will never be resolved.
Killing kids / innocent people is bad, whoever is doing it.
"Killing kids / innocent people is bad, whoever is doing it."
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 55 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 8 minutes ago
Israel fired warning shells at hospital
https://youtu.be/x9-XPw8bixg?si=oAOL0wYSMS9mA2ld
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So they did target the hospital.
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Not only that, but they're the ones who actually use human shields and target ambulances.
https://youtu.be/sMTuRM8d28o?si=fF74CgxUbGsjmY1Y
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 1 hour, 49 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club... (U18109)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 20 minutes ago
Wasn't the beheading babies story debunked? What planet has this guy been living on?
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No it hasn’t been debunked in the same way we still don’t know who fired the rocket yesterday. There is a reason they say the first casualty of war is the truth.
It is undeniable that Hamas killed children, absolutely proven. We have video of them killing unarmed and injured Israeli female soldiers. We have proof of them killing civilians doing no more than lying in their beds. We have proof of them parading bodies and hostages through streets of Gaza. Hamas must have known that Israel is not going to take that lightly - I mean what the faaaavk did they think would happen?
The only side I am on in this is that of the dead children on both sides who did absolutely nothing wrong.
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Yes, the story hasn't been debunked nor proven.
I won't trust the IDF on this as they're no more trustful than Hamas. Ironically though, Israel has broken majority of any ceasefire agreements they have made than Hamas.
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Agreed, which makes the taking of sides on this matter preposterous, both have done wrong and both have seen innocents killed because of it.
There really should only be one side here and that’s peace.
Now what achieves that peace is a completely different question - it looks an almost impossible situation
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 55 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 8 minutes ago
Israel fired warning shells at hospital
https://youtu.be/x9-XPw8bixg?si=oAOL0wYSMS9mA2ld
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So they did target the hospital.
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Not only that, but they're the ones who actually use human shields and target ambulances.
https://youtu.be/sMTuRM8d28o?si=fF74CgxUbGsjmY1Y
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But Israel are the good guys and have the right to defend themselves against Hospitals and Ambulances
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
You can find Israelis sitting on top of hills watching Gaza being bombed and cheering. You can see online some Jews and/or Israelis saying Gaza needs to be made into a parking lot.
If the same was said about Jews by Muslims or Arabs, they would be done on hate crimes.
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I think you need to read what Hamas have in their founding principles charter and read up on the history of the region of you are spouting such nonsense 👍
comment by Pedro Poridge at the love Parade (U6468)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by Clive Bissel (U22987)
posted 1 minute ago
Guys, do we really need to take sides?
Both sides are killing kids FFS.
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This is not a equal war. Palestine does not have a army they are being oppressed by Isrealis for years. The attack on Israel is a consequence of those apartheid policies. In what way is Israels response equal? They openly admit that they to not consider palestinians human. The unconditional backing of Israel by the West is a huge barrier to finding a peaceful resolution.
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Equally the Hamas manifesto has the destruction of the Jews and Israel in it and they have the means to try it as we have seen. Israel is a country surrounded by enemies that want them gone - the only thing that stops the others from wiping them out is their US backed, vastly superior army - it’s why Iran won’t aactually do anything directly, the US have a couple of destroyers out there that could wipe them off the face of the earth, so instead they (in my opinion) incite matters instead
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 1 hour, 49 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club... (U18109)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 20 minutes ago
Wasn't the beheading babies story debunked? What planet has this guy been living on?
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No it hasn’t been debunked in the same way we still don’t know who fired the rocket yesterday. There is a reason they say the first casualty of war is the truth.
It is undeniable that Hamas killed children, absolutely proven. We have video of them killing unarmed and injured Israeli female soldiers. We have proof of them killing civilians doing no more than lying in their beds. We have proof of them parading bodies and hostages through streets of Gaza. Hamas must have known that Israel is not going to take that lightly - I mean what the faaaavk did they think would happen?
The only side I am on in this is that of the dead children on both sides who did absolutely nothing wrong.
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Yes, the story hasn't been debunked nor proven.
I won't trust the IDF on this as they're no more trustful than Hamas. Ironically though, Israel has broken majority of any ceasefire agreements they have made than Hamas.
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Agreed, which makes the taking of sides on this matter preposterous, both have done wrong and both have seen innocents killed because of it.
There really should only be one side here and that’s peace.
Now what achieves that peace is a completely different question - it looks an almost impossible situation
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Why? Genuine question. If Palestinians are given their rights and freedoms, equal rights and justice like you and me then the path to peace has been opened and the destruction of Hamas has commenced IMO.
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 55 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 8 minutes ago
Israel fired warning shells at hospital
https://youtu.be/x9-XPw8bixg?si=oAOL0wYSMS9mA2ld
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So they did target the hospital.
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Not only that, but they're the ones who actually use human shields and target ambulances.
https://youtu.be/sMTuRM8d28o?si=fF74CgxUbGsjmY1Y
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But Israel are the good guys and have the right to defend themselves against Hospitals and Ambulances
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Israel now claiming it was done by PIJ group. A good question asked by one journalist was why should we believe them when they have lied before i.e. the killing of a journalist that they blamed on Palestinians before.
Journalist to IDF spokesman claiming Israel didn't bomb the hospital: "I'd like you to address the question of credibility, because..the IDF has a less than perfect track record with the issue of credibility"
His response? "Yes, we were lying those other times, but not this time."
Ffs
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Pedro Poridge at the love Parade (U6468)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by Clive Bissel (U22987)
posted 1 minute ago
Guys, do we really need to take sides?
Both sides are killing kids FFS.
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This is not a equal war. Palestine does not have a army they are being oppressed by Isrealis for years. The attack on Israel is a consequence of those apartheid policies. In what way is Israels response equal? They openly admit that they to not consider palestinians human. The unconditional backing of Israel by the West is a huge barrier to finding a peaceful resolution.
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Equally the Hamas manifesto has the destruction of the Jews and Israel in it and they have the means to try it as we have seen. Israel is a country surrounded by enemies that want them gone - the only thing that stops the others from wiping them out is their US backed, vastly superior army - it’s why Iran won’t aactually do anything directly, the US have a couple of destroyers out there that could wipe them off the face of the earth, so instead they (in my opinion) incite matters instead
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The reason Hamas manifesto has the destruction of the Jews and Israel in it is because Hamas was created to fight back against Israeli oppression of Palestinians. Hamas didn't always exist and it is Israel that created and creates the conditions necessary for Hamas to exist and subsist by their treatment of Palestinians. As I pointed out, oppression inevitably leads to violent uprising without fail. They are strengthening future Hamas as we speak because Hamas will have a lot of new recruits once this is over.
Your argument fails there and so it is not an equal war.
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 48 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 1 hour ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 20 minutes ago
Wasn't the beheading babies story debunked? What planet has this guy been living on?
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No it hasn’t been debunked in the same way we still don’t know who fired the rocket yesterday. There is a reason they say the first casualty of war is the truth.
It is undeniable that Hamas killed children, absolutely proven. We have video of them killing unarmed and injured Israeli female soldiers. We have proof of them killing civilians doing no more than lying in their beds. We have proof of them parading bodies and hostages through streets of Gaza. Hamas must have known that Israel is not going to take that lightly - I mean what the faaaavk did they think would happen?
The only side I am on in this is that of the dead children on both sides who did absolutely nothing wrong.
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Hamas are a terrorist organisation. Israel are a supposed democratic country that has been slaughtering Palestinian women and children for decades. So right back at you, because what did Israel think would happen after occupying and overseeing apartheid over Palestinians. A violent uprising like Hamas is guaranteed to happen in such a scenario as we have seen throughout history every single time without fail.
I don't advocate for killing of innocents of course but this both sides bullsheet is incredible to me. It's Israel that treats Palestinians as sub human. Palestinians want freedom like you and me and Hamas came into existence while Israel watched. What is it that you don't understand there?
Attacks like last Saturday can never be stopped except by granting Palestinians their freedom. If you kill all Hamas and don't solve the root problem then others will just replace them because the reasons for Hamas to exist have not been addressed. Resistance is immortal unless freedom is achieved. Israel is creating future Hamas loyalists as we speak and the cycle will continue. Oppressed people react violently everytime, without fail.
So what are Israel expecting? Palestinians to take it up the rear decade after decade and nothing to ever happen?
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I think it’s fair to say that Israel were not expecting Hamas to slaughter innocent children in barbaric ways. That was a huge misstep bu Hamas - had they just targeted the soldiers then I think the world would have been less divided on this and possibly more supportive of the Palestinian plight.
Slaughtering children and people at peace festivals - has cost them a lot of support, especially in the west and made this even more complicated
comment by A14... 152-0 T20 + Tea was fantastic پا... (U2805)
posted 2 minutes ago
Journalist to IDF spokesman claiming Israel didn't bomb the hospital: "I'd like you to address the question of credibility, because..the IDF has a less than perfect track record with the issue of credibility"
His response? "Yes, we were lying those other times, but not this time."
Ffs
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I know. Right?
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 48 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 1 hour ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 20 minutes ago
Wasn't the beheading babies story debunked? What planet has this guy been living on?
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No it hasn’t been debunked in the same way we still don’t know who fired the rocket yesterday. There is a reason they say the first casualty of war is the truth.
It is undeniable that Hamas killed children, absolutely proven. We have video of them killing unarmed and injured Israeli female soldiers. We have proof of them killing civilians doing no more than lying in their beds. We have proof of them parading bodies and hostages through streets of Gaza. Hamas must have known that Israel is not going to take that lightly - I mean what the faaaavk did they think would happen?
The only side I am on in this is that of the dead children on both sides who did absolutely nothing wrong.
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Hamas are a terrorist organisation. Israel are a supposed democratic country that has been slaughtering Palestinian women and children for decades. So right back at you, because what did Israel think would happen after occupying and overseeing apartheid over Palestinians. A violent uprising like Hamas is guaranteed to happen in such a scenario as we have seen throughout history every single time without fail.
I don't advocate for killing of innocents of course but this both sides bullsheet is incredible to me. It's Israel that treats Palestinians as sub human. Palestinians want freedom like you and me and Hamas came into existence while Israel watched. What is it that you don't understand there?
Attacks like last Saturday can never be stopped except by granting Palestinians their freedom. If you kill all Hamas and don't solve the root problem then others will just replace them because the reasons for Hamas to exist have not been addressed. Resistance is immortal unless freedom is achieved. Israel is creating future Hamas loyalists as we speak and the cycle will continue. Oppressed people react violently everytime, without fail.
So what are Israel expecting? Palestinians to take it up the rear decade after decade and nothing to ever happen?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think it’s fair to say that Israel were not expecting Hamas to slaughter innocent children in barbaric ways. That was a huge misstep bu Hamas - had they just targeted the soldiers then I think the world would have been less divided on this and possibly more supportive of the Palestinian plight.
Slaughtering children and people at peace festivals - has cost them a lot of support, especially in the west and made this even more complicated
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Are you new to this conflict? Slaughtering of children women and non-combatants has been a norm for Israel for decades, including the West Bank where there is no Hamas. No offence, but it appears to only get your news from the likes of CNN, Skynews and the daily star etc. bonkers
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Pedro Poridge at the love Parade (U6468)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by Clive Bissel (U22987)
posted 1 minute ago
Guys, do we really need to take sides?
Both sides are killing kids FFS.
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This is not a equal war. Palestine does not have a army they are being oppressed by Isrealis for years. The attack on Israel is a consequence of those apartheid policies. In what way is Israels response equal? They openly admit that they to not consider palestinians human. The unconditional backing of Israel by the West is a huge barrier to finding a peaceful resolution.
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Equally the Hamas manifesto has the destruction of the Jews and Israel in it and they have the means to try it as we have seen. Israel is a country surrounded by enemies that want them gone - the only thing that stops the others from wiping them out is their US backed, vastly superior army - it’s why Iran won’t aactually do anything directly, the US have a couple of destroyers out there that could wipe them off the face of the earth, so instead they (in my opinion) incite matters instead
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The reason Hamas manifesto has the destruction of the Jews and Israel in it is because Hamas was created to fight back against Israeli oppression of Palestinians. Hamas didn't always exist and it is Israel that created and creates the conditions necessary for Hamas to exist and subsist by their treatment of Palestinians. As I pointed out, oppression inevitably leads to violent uprising without fail. They are strengthening future Hamas as we speak because Hamas will have a lot of new recruits once this is over.
Your argument fails there and so it is not an equal war.
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Your argument is that because Israel are stronger than Hamas, the destruction of all Jews and Israel is an acceptable goal?
You're being completely naive that this is a recent problem. What occurred in 1948? Israel was attacked by every Arab country around it. There have been multiple wars since and many Arabs view the destruction of Israel in its entirety as a noble goal. Hamas are a continuation of those ideals and a rejection of the two state solution that was almost within reach with Arafat and Rabin. Unfortunately the extremists on both sides have dragged us back to where we are now.
No offense but you and currently in Poland are coming across as brainwashed zealots.
Things are never black and white in life. Would be good to remember that.
I think it’s fair to say that Israel were not expecting Hamas to slaughter innocent children in barbaric ways
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Israel have been slaughtering Palestinian women and children from decades while in schools and hospitals etc. Their slaughtering of Palestinians is one of the reasons Hamas came into existence.
Why would they then expect Hamas not to return the favour in kind?
You're making some weird points.
Your argument is that because Israel are stronger than Hamas, the destruction of all Jews and Israel is an acceptable goal?
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What? No. What have I said to even give that idea? The fack is wrong with you?
My argument is that Israel are the initial aggressor and occupier, overseeing apartheid over Palestinians and if they could please stop doing that then there'd be no reason for Hamas to exist and peace would have a chance.
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posted on 18/10/23
Another term that Israelis use is "mowing the lawn" and they say it's something they do every few years.
posted on 18/10/23
Israel fired warning shells at hospital
https://youtu.be/x9-XPw8bixg?si=oAOL0wYSMS9mA2ld
posted on 18/10/23
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 8 minutes ago
Israel fired warning shells at hospital
https://youtu.be/x9-XPw8bixg?si=oAOL0wYSMS9mA2ld
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So they did target the hospital.
posted on 18/10/23
Guys, do we really need to take sides?
Both sides are killing kids FFS.
posted on 18/10/23
comment by Clive Bissel (U22987)
posted 1 minute ago
Guys, do we really need to take sides?
Both sides are killing kids FFS.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is not a equal war. Palestine does not have a army they are being oppressed by Isrealis for years. The attack on Israel is a consequence of those apartheid policies. In what way is Israels response equal? They openly admit that they to not consider palestinians human. The unconditional backing of Israel by the West is a huge barrier to finding a peaceful resolution.
posted on 18/10/23
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 1 hour ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 20 minutes ago
Wasn't the beheading babies story debunked? What planet has this guy been living on?
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No it hasn’t been debunked in the same way we still don’t know who fired the rocket yesterday. There is a reason they say the first casualty of war is the truth.
It is undeniable that Hamas killed children, absolutely proven. We have video of them killing unarmed and injured Israeli female soldiers. We have proof of them killing civilians doing no more than lying in their beds. We have proof of them parading bodies and hostages through streets of Gaza. Hamas must have known that Israel is not going to take that lightly - I mean what the faaaavk did they think would happen?
The only side I am on in this is that of the dead children on both sides who did absolutely nothing wrong.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hamas are a terrorist organisation. Israel are a supposed democratic country that has been slaughtering Palestinian women and children for decades. So right back at you, because what did Israel think would happen after occupying and overseeing apartheid over Palestinians. A violent uprising like Hamas is guaranteed to happen in such a scenario as we have seen throughout history every single time without fail.
I don't advocate for killing of innocents of course but this both sides bullsheet is incredible to me. It's Israel that treats Palestinians as sub human. Palestinians want freedom like you and me and Hamas came into existence while Israel watched. What is it that you don't understand there?
Attacks like last Saturday can never be stopped except by granting Palestinians their freedom. If you kill all Hamas and don't solve the root problem then others will just replace them because the reasons for Hamas to exist have not been addressed. Resistance is immortal unless freedom is achieved. Israel is creating future Hamas loyalists as we speak and the cycle will continue. Oppressed people react violently everytime, without fail.
So what are Israel expecting? Palestinians to take it up the rear decade after decade and nothing to ever happen?
posted on 18/10/23
https://x.com/DrRoundglasses/status/1714538366585258450?s=20
posted on 18/10/23
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 2 minutes ago
https://x.com/DrRoundglasses/status/1714538366585258450?s=20
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Bang on its happening as we speak.
posted on 18/10/23
comment by Pedro Poridge at the love Parade (U6468)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Clive Bissel (U22987)
posted 1 minute ago
Guys, do we really need to take sides?
Both sides are killing kids FFS.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is not a equal war. Palestine does not have a army they are being oppressed by Isrealis for years. The attack on Israel is a consequence of those apartheid policies. In what way is Israels response equal? They openly admit that they to not consider palestinians human. The unconditional backing of Israel by the West is a huge barrier to finding a peaceful resolution.
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I'm no longer interested in the politics. Its too big and emotive a subject, and one that will never be resolved.
Killing kids / innocent people is bad, whoever is doing it.
posted on 18/10/23
"Killing kids / innocent people is bad, whoever is doing it."
posted on 18/10/23
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 55 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 8 minutes ago
Israel fired warning shells at hospital
https://youtu.be/x9-XPw8bixg?si=oAOL0wYSMS9mA2ld
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So they did target the hospital.
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Not only that, but they're the ones who actually use human shields and target ambulances.
https://youtu.be/sMTuRM8d28o?si=fF74CgxUbGsjmY1Y
posted on 18/10/23
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 1 hour, 49 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club... (U18109)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 20 minutes ago
Wasn't the beheading babies story debunked? What planet has this guy been living on?
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No it hasn’t been debunked in the same way we still don’t know who fired the rocket yesterday. There is a reason they say the first casualty of war is the truth.
It is undeniable that Hamas killed children, absolutely proven. We have video of them killing unarmed and injured Israeli female soldiers. We have proof of them killing civilians doing no more than lying in their beds. We have proof of them parading bodies and hostages through streets of Gaza. Hamas must have known that Israel is not going to take that lightly - I mean what the faaaavk did they think would happen?
The only side I am on in this is that of the dead children on both sides who did absolutely nothing wrong.
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Yes, the story hasn't been debunked nor proven.
I won't trust the IDF on this as they're no more trustful than Hamas. Ironically though, Israel has broken majority of any ceasefire agreements they have made than Hamas.
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Agreed, which makes the taking of sides on this matter preposterous, both have done wrong and both have seen innocents killed because of it.
There really should only be one side here and that’s peace.
Now what achieves that peace is a completely different question - it looks an almost impossible situation
posted on 18/10/23
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 55 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 8 minutes ago
Israel fired warning shells at hospital
https://youtu.be/x9-XPw8bixg?si=oAOL0wYSMS9mA2ld
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So they did target the hospital.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not only that, but they're the ones who actually use human shields and target ambulances.
https://youtu.be/sMTuRM8d28o?si=fF74CgxUbGsjmY1Y
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But Israel are the good guys and have the right to defend themselves against Hospitals and Ambulances
posted on 18/10/23
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
You can find Israelis sitting on top of hills watching Gaza being bombed and cheering. You can see online some Jews and/or Israelis saying Gaza needs to be made into a parking lot.
If the same was said about Jews by Muslims or Arabs, they would be done on hate crimes.
========
I think you need to read what Hamas have in their founding principles charter and read up on the history of the region of you are spouting such nonsense 👍
posted on 18/10/23
comment by Pedro Poridge at the love Parade (U6468)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by Clive Bissel (U22987)
posted 1 minute ago
Guys, do we really need to take sides?
Both sides are killing kids FFS.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is not a equal war. Palestine does not have a army they are being oppressed by Isrealis for years. The attack on Israel is a consequence of those apartheid policies. In what way is Israels response equal? They openly admit that they to not consider palestinians human. The unconditional backing of Israel by the West is a huge barrier to finding a peaceful resolution.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Equally the Hamas manifesto has the destruction of the Jews and Israel in it and they have the means to try it as we have seen. Israel is a country surrounded by enemies that want them gone - the only thing that stops the others from wiping them out is their US backed, vastly superior army - it’s why Iran won’t aactually do anything directly, the US have a couple of destroyers out there that could wipe them off the face of the earth, so instead they (in my opinion) incite matters instead
posted on 18/10/23
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 1 hour, 49 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club... (U18109)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 20 minutes ago
Wasn't the beheading babies story debunked? What planet has this guy been living on?
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No it hasn’t been debunked in the same way we still don’t know who fired the rocket yesterday. There is a reason they say the first casualty of war is the truth.
It is undeniable that Hamas killed children, absolutely proven. We have video of them killing unarmed and injured Israeli female soldiers. We have proof of them killing civilians doing no more than lying in their beds. We have proof of them parading bodies and hostages through streets of Gaza. Hamas must have known that Israel is not going to take that lightly - I mean what the faaaavk did they think would happen?
The only side I am on in this is that of the dead children on both sides who did absolutely nothing wrong.
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Yes, the story hasn't been debunked nor proven.
I won't trust the IDF on this as they're no more trustful than Hamas. Ironically though, Israel has broken majority of any ceasefire agreements they have made than Hamas.
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Agreed, which makes the taking of sides on this matter preposterous, both have done wrong and both have seen innocents killed because of it.
There really should only be one side here and that’s peace.
Now what achieves that peace is a completely different question - it looks an almost impossible situation
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Why? Genuine question. If Palestinians are given their rights and freedoms, equal rights and justice like you and me then the path to peace has been opened and the destruction of Hamas has commenced IMO.
posted on 18/10/23
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInPoland (U11181)
posted 55 minutes ago
comment by N2 (U22280)
posted 8 minutes ago
Israel fired warning shells at hospital
https://youtu.be/x9-XPw8bixg?si=oAOL0wYSMS9mA2ld
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So they did target the hospital.
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Not only that, but they're the ones who actually use human shields and target ambulances.
https://youtu.be/sMTuRM8d28o?si=fF74CgxUbGsjmY1Y
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But Israel are the good guys and have the right to defend themselves against Hospitals and Ambulances
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Israel now claiming it was done by PIJ group. A good question asked by one journalist was why should we believe them when they have lied before i.e. the killing of a journalist that they blamed on Palestinians before.
posted on 18/10/23
Journalist to IDF spokesman claiming Israel didn't bomb the hospital: "I'd like you to address the question of credibility, because..the IDF has a less than perfect track record with the issue of credibility"
His response? "Yes, we were lying those other times, but not this time."
Ffs
posted on 18/10/23
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Pedro Poridge at the love Parade (U6468)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by Clive Bissel (U22987)
posted 1 minute ago
Guys, do we really need to take sides?
Both sides are killing kids FFS.
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This is not a equal war. Palestine does not have a army they are being oppressed by Isrealis for years. The attack on Israel is a consequence of those apartheid policies. In what way is Israels response equal? They openly admit that they to not consider palestinians human. The unconditional backing of Israel by the West is a huge barrier to finding a peaceful resolution.
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Equally the Hamas manifesto has the destruction of the Jews and Israel in it and they have the means to try it as we have seen. Israel is a country surrounded by enemies that want them gone - the only thing that stops the others from wiping them out is their US backed, vastly superior army - it’s why Iran won’t aactually do anything directly, the US have a couple of destroyers out there that could wipe them off the face of the earth, so instead they (in my opinion) incite matters instead
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The reason Hamas manifesto has the destruction of the Jews and Israel in it is because Hamas was created to fight back against Israeli oppression of Palestinians. Hamas didn't always exist and it is Israel that created and creates the conditions necessary for Hamas to exist and subsist by their treatment of Palestinians. As I pointed out, oppression inevitably leads to violent uprising without fail. They are strengthening future Hamas as we speak because Hamas will have a lot of new recruits once this is over.
Your argument fails there and so it is not an equal war.
posted on 18/10/23
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 48 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 1 hour ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 20 minutes ago
Wasn't the beheading babies story debunked? What planet has this guy been living on?
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No it hasn’t been debunked in the same way we still don’t know who fired the rocket yesterday. There is a reason they say the first casualty of war is the truth.
It is undeniable that Hamas killed children, absolutely proven. We have video of them killing unarmed and injured Israeli female soldiers. We have proof of them killing civilians doing no more than lying in their beds. We have proof of them parading bodies and hostages through streets of Gaza. Hamas must have known that Israel is not going to take that lightly - I mean what the faaaavk did they think would happen?
The only side I am on in this is that of the dead children on both sides who did absolutely nothing wrong.
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Hamas are a terrorist organisation. Israel are a supposed democratic country that has been slaughtering Palestinian women and children for decades. So right back at you, because what did Israel think would happen after occupying and overseeing apartheid over Palestinians. A violent uprising like Hamas is guaranteed to happen in such a scenario as we have seen throughout history every single time without fail.
I don't advocate for killing of innocents of course but this both sides bullsheet is incredible to me. It's Israel that treats Palestinians as sub human. Palestinians want freedom like you and me and Hamas came into existence while Israel watched. What is it that you don't understand there?
Attacks like last Saturday can never be stopped except by granting Palestinians their freedom. If you kill all Hamas and don't solve the root problem then others will just replace them because the reasons for Hamas to exist have not been addressed. Resistance is immortal unless freedom is achieved. Israel is creating future Hamas loyalists as we speak and the cycle will continue. Oppressed people react violently everytime, without fail.
So what are Israel expecting? Palestinians to take it up the rear decade after decade and nothing to ever happen?
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I think it’s fair to say that Israel were not expecting Hamas to slaughter innocent children in barbaric ways. That was a huge misstep bu Hamas - had they just targeted the soldiers then I think the world would have been less divided on this and possibly more supportive of the Palestinian plight.
Slaughtering children and people at peace festivals - has cost them a lot of support, especially in the west and made this even more complicated
posted on 18/10/23
comment by A14... 152-0 T20 + Tea was fantastic پا... (U2805)
posted 2 minutes ago
Journalist to IDF spokesman claiming Israel didn't bomb the hospital: "I'd like you to address the question of credibility, because..the IDF has a less than perfect track record with the issue of credibility"
His response? "Yes, we were lying those other times, but not this time."
Ffs
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I know. Right?
posted on 18/10/23
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 48 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 1 hour ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 20 minutes ago
Wasn't the beheading babies story debunked? What planet has this guy been living on?
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No it hasn’t been debunked in the same way we still don’t know who fired the rocket yesterday. There is a reason they say the first casualty of war is the truth.
It is undeniable that Hamas killed children, absolutely proven. We have video of them killing unarmed and injured Israeli female soldiers. We have proof of them killing civilians doing no more than lying in their beds. We have proof of them parading bodies and hostages through streets of Gaza. Hamas must have known that Israel is not going to take that lightly - I mean what the faaaavk did they think would happen?
The only side I am on in this is that of the dead children on both sides who did absolutely nothing wrong.
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Hamas are a terrorist organisation. Israel are a supposed democratic country that has been slaughtering Palestinian women and children for decades. So right back at you, because what did Israel think would happen after occupying and overseeing apartheid over Palestinians. A violent uprising like Hamas is guaranteed to happen in such a scenario as we have seen throughout history every single time without fail.
I don't advocate for killing of innocents of course but this both sides bullsheet is incredible to me. It's Israel that treats Palestinians as sub human. Palestinians want freedom like you and me and Hamas came into existence while Israel watched. What is it that you don't understand there?
Attacks like last Saturday can never be stopped except by granting Palestinians their freedom. If you kill all Hamas and don't solve the root problem then others will just replace them because the reasons for Hamas to exist have not been addressed. Resistance is immortal unless freedom is achieved. Israel is creating future Hamas loyalists as we speak and the cycle will continue. Oppressed people react violently everytime, without fail.
So what are Israel expecting? Palestinians to take it up the rear decade after decade and nothing to ever happen?
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I think it’s fair to say that Israel were not expecting Hamas to slaughter innocent children in barbaric ways. That was a huge misstep bu Hamas - had they just targeted the soldiers then I think the world would have been less divided on this and possibly more supportive of the Palestinian plight.
Slaughtering children and people at peace festivals - has cost them a lot of support, especially in the west and made this even more complicated
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Are you new to this conflict? Slaughtering of children women and non-combatants has been a norm for Israel for decades, including the West Bank where there is no Hamas. No offence, but it appears to only get your news from the likes of CNN, Skynews and the daily star etc. bonkers
posted on 18/10/23
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Pedro Poridge at the love Parade (U6468)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by Clive Bissel (U22987)
posted 1 minute ago
Guys, do we really need to take sides?
Both sides are killing kids FFS.
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This is not a equal war. Palestine does not have a army they are being oppressed by Isrealis for years. The attack on Israel is a consequence of those apartheid policies. In what way is Israels response equal? They openly admit that they to not consider palestinians human. The unconditional backing of Israel by the West is a huge barrier to finding a peaceful resolution.
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Equally the Hamas manifesto has the destruction of the Jews and Israel in it and they have the means to try it as we have seen. Israel is a country surrounded by enemies that want them gone - the only thing that stops the others from wiping them out is their US backed, vastly superior army - it’s why Iran won’t aactually do anything directly, the US have a couple of destroyers out there that could wipe them off the face of the earth, so instead they (in my opinion) incite matters instead
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The reason Hamas manifesto has the destruction of the Jews and Israel in it is because Hamas was created to fight back against Israeli oppression of Palestinians. Hamas didn't always exist and it is Israel that created and creates the conditions necessary for Hamas to exist and subsist by their treatment of Palestinians. As I pointed out, oppression inevitably leads to violent uprising without fail. They are strengthening future Hamas as we speak because Hamas will have a lot of new recruits once this is over.
Your argument fails there and so it is not an equal war.
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Your argument is that because Israel are stronger than Hamas, the destruction of all Jews and Israel is an acceptable goal?
You're being completely naive that this is a recent problem. What occurred in 1948? Israel was attacked by every Arab country around it. There have been multiple wars since and many Arabs view the destruction of Israel in its entirety as a noble goal. Hamas are a continuation of those ideals and a rejection of the two state solution that was almost within reach with Arafat and Rabin. Unfortunately the extremists on both sides have dragged us back to where we are now.
No offense but you and currently in Poland are coming across as brainwashed zealots.
Things are never black and white in life. Would be good to remember that.
posted on 18/10/23
I think it’s fair to say that Israel were not expecting Hamas to slaughter innocent children in barbaric ways
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Israel have been slaughtering Palestinian women and children from decades while in schools and hospitals etc. Their slaughtering of Palestinians is one of the reasons Hamas came into existence.
Why would they then expect Hamas not to return the favour in kind?
You're making some weird points.
posted on 18/10/23
Your argument is that because Israel are stronger than Hamas, the destruction of all Jews and Israel is an acceptable goal?
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What? No. What have I said to even give that idea? The fack is wrong with you?
My argument is that Israel are the initial aggressor and occupier, overseeing apartheid over Palestinians and if they could please stop doing that then there'd be no reason for Hamas to exist and peace would have a chance.
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