It’s not possible, it’s a stupid theory.

comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 1 minute ago
It’s not possible, it’s a stupid theory.
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also the basis for the sh!ttest bond movie yet

So he is doing a runner before the authorities come calling.

Manchester United here to welcome him with open arms. Nothing here to get giddy about.

comment by Don Draper's dandruff (U20155)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 1 minute ago
It’s not possible, it’s a stupid theory.
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also the basis for the sh!ttest bond movie yet
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Hahahaha.

Maybe I'm paranoid then. But when you realise he was their commercial director between 2011 and 2016 and it's their commercial deals that could be the reason they get relegated or receive an alternative massive
punishment then I think it's okay to be a little bit sceptical.

comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Lucious Lyon (U11781)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 seconds ago
He's either getting out before it all falls down (fingers crossed) or he's going to be their mole behind enemy lines.

Seems such a gamble on our part. There's got to be
plenty of other options out there.
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You’re such a donkey sometimes man, why would he join another club to be a mole? And what makes you think he won’t be forced to sign something that stops him from leaking it out to rival clubs.
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Because he works for a fierce rival and for a man with
unlimited wealth.

As I said it could be a case of getting off the sinking ship or to me it makes little sense.

If we have any skeletons in our closet then this is a bit of a risk is all I'm saying. Don't underestimate the Sheikh and the lengths they will go to mate. They have already bribed their way through a CAS hearing let's be honest given the 3rd panel member who was meant to be independent had business interests in the UAE.

This is either a masterstroke from us or the exact opposite.
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I genuinely don't get what your point is. Are you suggesting he's been sent by City to spy on us?
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That is exactly what he is saying.

Why would city spy on us? That’s like mi6 and James bond being kitted out with gadgets from q a with a highly trained support team to work out which member on here is rdd.

comment by scholayScholes (U13961)
posted 16 minutes ago
So he is doing a runner before the authorities come calling.
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Bit late for that.

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Lucious Lyon (U11781)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 seconds ago
He's either getting out before it all falls down (fingers crossed) or he's going to be their mole behind enemy lines.

Seems such a gamble on our part. There's got to be
plenty of other options out there.
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You’re such a donkey sometimes man, why would he join another club to be a mole? And what makes you think he won’t be forced to sign something that stops him from leaking it out to rival clubs.
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Because he works for a fierce rival and for a man with
unlimited wealth.

As I said it could be a case of getting off the sinking ship or to me it makes little sense.

If we have any skeletons in our closet then this is a bit of a risk is all I'm saying. Don't underestimate the Sheikh and the lengths they will go to mate. They have already bribed their way through a CAS hearing let's be honest given the 3rd panel member who was meant to be independent had business interests in the UAE.

This is either a masterstroke from us or the exact opposite.
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I genuinely don't get what your point is. Are you suggesting he's been sent by City to spy on us?
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That is exactly what he is saying.
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Read above. It's definitely not what I'm saying it is 100% categorically. All I said was it's a possibility but don't let facts get in the way eh?

Seems very bizarre for their COO and former commercial director to jump ship to United given what he knows about City don't you think?
It also makes it worse as he was their commercial director between 2011 and 2016 too given the investigation.

As I said it's probably me being paranoid though

comment by Lucious Lyon (U11781)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by Forzus Maximus Dickwaddus (U22472)
posted 16 seconds ago
He will b in jail soon like everybody else ass-sociated with the Man Cs* criminal organization
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That was my first thoughtwhy would he join our absolute mess over the best run club in the country.
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Because you’ve offered him a CEO job

It’s a good and a bad thing for us. Good appointment for you guys.

It's not a good thing for us at all if City are found guilty. He was a huge part of that scandal given he was the commercial director at the time. Surely he could be facing consequences himself in the future?

I do wonder if he's just running from a sinking ship. Or we are paying more than City (hard to imagine). But it has happened a lot of times. We lost Kenyon to CHelsea during Ahbramovic's time.

Meanwhile
Dan Ashworth - DOF
Paul Mitchell - Recruitment
Nick Cox- Head of Academy.

Complete reshuffle. Can we now confirm that we dont expect to see that t00ser with us still.

comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
It's not a good thing for us at all if City are found guilty. He was a huge part of that scandal given he was the commercial director at the time. Surely he could be facing consequences himself in the future?
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So what you are saying here is that Ineos are useless and have not done their due diligence on this geezer.

Most highly successful people are more interested in career progression, higher salaries, and greater responsibility, and being seen to do a good job. If he moved to United to spy for his former employer for money, ultimately he'd be making some extra money at the risk of being disgraced, jailed at worst, and of being seen to fail (because City benefit from the sabotage) while having to hide the wealth coming from bribes. It's *possible* that he decides he prefers to be a rat. But then it's *possible* that whoever we appoint is secretly in the pay of our rivals. Maybe Woodward was paid to be incompetent. Maybe Joel Glazer is taking coin from Abu Dhabi.

comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 3 minutes ago
It's not a good thing for us at all if City are found guilty. He was a huge part of that scandal given he was the commercial director at the time. Surely he could be facing consequences himself in the future?
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Not yet seen a staff punished for it. Usually, the club as a whole bears the brunt of it in fines and demotion. Never head of an officer gettng penalized through it all.

comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
It's not a good thing for us at all if City are found guilty. He was a huge part of that scandal given he was the commercial director at the time. Surely he could be facing consequences himself in the future?
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So far it has only been clubs punished. Why should City and him be treated differently?

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
It's not a good thing for us at all if City are found guilty. He was a huge part of that scandal given he was the commercial director at the time. Surely he could be facing consequences himself in the future?
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So what you are saying here is that Ineos are useless and have not done their due diligence on this geezer.
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Not what I said.

This hasn't been a purely INEOS appointment I have just
been reading. It's a Glazer appointment that INEOS have
approved. As the CEO is not the football side of the business then surely the Glazers get the final day on it? That's what we've been told.

It seems a bit of a risky move given his connection to the FFP investigation though don't you think? I'm sure the club have done their due diligence but then they say they have about everything over the last 10 years also and we've been a shambles.

It's a shocking story anyway. Nobody was expecting this.

It seems a bit of a risky move given his connection to the FFP investigation though don't you think?

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Why? If City have done wrong they will get punished not him or us.

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
It's not a good thing for us at all if City are found guilty. He was a huge part of that scandal given he was the commercial director at the time. Surely he could be facing consequences himself in the future?
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So far it has only been clubs punished. Why should City and him be treated differently?
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City's case is totally different to Everton and Forest. They have carelessly overspent out of desperation to stay in the PL.

City have been accused of mass fraud for want of a better term. These are far more serious charges so we don't know this will only be a club punishment if found guilty. It's totally unknown at this point.

comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
It's not a good thing for us at all if City are found guilty. He was a huge part of that scandal given he was the commercial director at the time. Surely he could be facing consequences himself in the future?
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So far it has only been clubs punished. Why should City and him be treated differently?
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City's case is totally different to Everton and Forest. They have carelessly overspent out of desperation to stay in the PL.

City have been accused of mass fraud for want of a better term. These are far more serious charges so we don't know this will only be a club punishment if found guilty. It's totally unknown at this point.
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In the Juventus plusvalenza case, individuals were punished as well as the team.

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
It seems a bit of a risky move given his connection to the FFP investigation though don't you think?

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Why? If City have done wrong they will get punished not him or us.
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These charges City are facing aren't the same as Evertons. They are far more serious as they are essentially fraud. Everton haven't hidden payments. They have been open and honest and fully cooperated. They have just been very careless with their spending and underestimated the ability to recoup transfer fees and also the impact that stupid wages has on a club with no European football and a relatively small stadium by modern standards.

We don't know if individuals at City could be in hot water yet. It's entirely possible.

Any fraud and cooking of the nooks would have likely done above him. A lot of the side payments to players and agents would have been directly owned by the chairman and Ethihad people. The guys below would have likely known dodgy things were happening, but they didn't have the details or have to sign off.

comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 18 minutes ago
It's not a good thing for us at all if City are found guilty. He was a huge part of that scandal given he was the commercial director at the time. Surely he could be facing consequences himself in the future?
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There’s been no suggestion he was a huge part of anything. Let’s be honest though, if he personally was potentially implicated, there’s absolutely no chance you’d have been able to hire him.

comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
It's not a good thing for us at all if City are found guilty. He was a huge part of that scandal given he was the commercial director at the time. Surely he could be facing consequences himself in the future?
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So far it has only been clubs punished. Why should City and him be treated differently?
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City's case is totally different to Everton and Forest. They have carelessly overspent out of desperation to stay in the PL.

City have been accused of mass fraud for want of a better term. These are far more serious charges so we don't know this will only be a club punishment if found guilty. It's totally unknown at this point.
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You are getting to the edge these days. Even at its peak, Juventus got relegated but every single person went untouched. I do not understand how you assume this will be different and every single individual will be punished. Will the players who knowingly entered into the deals be punished? will the owners be banned? The agents, will they be stopped from doing deals in the UK? Your train of thought makes no sense.

comment by Forzus Maximus Dickwaddus (U22472)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
It's not a good thing for us at all if City are found guilty. He was a huge part of that scandal given he was the commercial director at the time. Surely he could be facing consequences himself in the future?
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So far it has only been clubs punished. Why should City and him be treated differently?
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City's case is totally different to Everton and Forest. They have carelessly overspent out of desperation to stay in the PL.

City have been accused of mass fraud for want of a better term. These are far more serious charges so we don't know this will only be a club punishment if found guilty. It's totally unknown at this point.
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In the Juventus plusvalenza case, individuals were punished as well as the team.
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Exactly.

Banning orders for a few select individuals at City can't be dismissed at this stage. The charges are that serious.

Some of the leaked emails of their execs are an absolute disgrace. They are laughing and joking about what they are doing which is essentially fraud. They knew what they were doing and the possible consequences and did
It anyway.

This is either a masterstroke from us or the exact opposite.

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Oh well. Atleast we tried