comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
Not my fault you were talking out of your backside making the claim Qatar would just pay what they Glazers want
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I did not claim that. There you go telling porkies again after everyone on that thread was laughing at your stupidity.
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“the State of Qatar could not cough up mere six billion quid.” VC
Feel free to proceed in ruining another thread! You have live a sad fecking life to come here and just pick arguments and want to point score.
Have a good night.
Melts, as always good to have a decent dialogue.
That’s a funny one…. Say City found guilty,, hit with a relegation, everyone including pep leaves. Liverpool then clean up (or arsenal, it ain’t going to be us
The next titles would feel dirty and unmerited. There’s always be the question would city have won instead. And the answer probably would be that yes, they would..
That to me is asterisk title territory. Won on paper, but everyone knows it probably wouldn't have been that way otherwise.
I must admit, the lad was funny as f@ck with his business acumen.
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Indeed, the SEC as a glazer PR machine was a particular highlight of his business acumen
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This was equally as funny. Talking about the people who spent around 660 billion on hosting the World Cup.
“My business acumen tells me they did not accumulate that much wealth just to throw it away for ego purposes.”
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 50 seconds ago
That’s a funny one…. Say City found guilty,, hit with a relegation, everyone including pep leaves. Liverpool then clean up (or arsenal, it ain’t going to be us
The next titles would feel dirty and unmerited. There’s always be the question would city have won instead. And the answer probably would be that yes, they would..
That to me is asterisk title territory. Won on paper, but everyone knows it probably wouldn't have been that way otherwise.
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Well that's just bloody depressing.
comment by Pun (U21588)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 50 seconds ago
That’s a funny one…. Say City found guilty,, hit with a relegation, everyone including pep leaves. Liverpool then clean up (or arsenal, it ain’t going to be us
The next titles would feel dirty and unmerited. There’s always be the question would city have won instead. And the answer probably would be that yes, they would..
That to me is asterisk title territory. Won on paper, but everyone knows it probably wouldn't have been that way otherwise.
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Well that's just bloody depressing.
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True though. People will think that.especially as it seems the likes of Liverpool and us have been very keen in support of these charges.
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 27 minutes ago
That’s a funny one…. Say City found guilty,, hit with a relegation, everyone including pep leaves. Liverpool then clean up (or arsenal, it ain’t going to be us
The next titles would feel dirty and unmerited. There’s always be the question would city have won instead. And the answer probably would be that yes, they would..
That to me is asterisk title territory. Won on paper, but everyone knows it probably wouldn't have been that way otherwise.
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If City were stripped of titles and sides awarded said titles years down the line that would feel tainted (and I very much doubt that would happen anyway).
But subsequent titles really shouldn't feel remotely tainted, if a runner wins an Olympic medal or a cyclist a tour de France (having never doped), after the worst dopers in the history of their sports are finally banned no one in their right mind would consider that less of a win.
Whether you feel steroids should be banned would be more of an argument but the issue always becomes if one person is doing it then everyone has to do it in order to compete on a level playing field.
To be fair he's achieved probably everything at City.
He may see united as an interesting project.
A club that has been struggling for a decade. Has an unlimited pot of money, old infrastructure.
Many people would relish the challenge. I would.
He'd be on gardening leave for a while wouldn't he, as is usual when key execs go from one large organisation to a rival.
This is great news. Now all we need is to do is hire the inhaler guy from Liverpool and we'll surely be unstoppable
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 22 minutes ago
He'd be on gardening leave for a while wouldn't he, as is usual when key execs go from one large organisation to a rival.
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Yeah I think his official starting date is in the summer. Then he'll work for us for 19 years, then City's case will be heard and we'll have to part ways when he's incarcerated
Btw the correct title for this article was OMAR COMIN'
But nevermind
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 9 hours, 50 minutes ago
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 27 minutes ago
That’s a funny one…. Say City found guilty,, hit with a relegation, everyone including pep leaves. Liverpool then clean up (or arsenal, it ain’t going to be us
The next titles would feel dirty and unmerited. There’s always be the question would city have won instead. And the answer probably would be that yes, they would..
That to me is asterisk title territory. Won on paper, but everyone knows it probably wouldn't have been that way otherwise.
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If City were stripped of titles and sides awarded said titles years down the line that would feel tainted (and I very much doubt that would happen anyway).
But subsequent titles really shouldn't feel remotely tainted, if a runner wins an Olympic medal or a cyclist a tour de France (having never doped), after the worst dopers in the history of their sports are finally banned no one in their right mind would consider that less of a win.
Whether you feel steroids should be banned would be more of an argument but the issue always becomes if one person is doing it then everyone has to do it in order to compete on a level playing field.
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That’s a poor comparison, because it’s not a level playing field because some times have much higher revenue through the stupid tv money and commercial revenue (ironically the ones that ffp almost seems designed to keep at the top, funny that.). So the steroid analogy does not work because no one starts at the same level.
If city are decimated and/or relegated so aren’t competing, that’s tainted in my book for anyone that does win, as the best team has been removed for non sporting reasons
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 9 hours, 50 minutes ago
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 27 minutes ago
That’s a funny one…. Say City found guilty,, hit with a relegation, everyone including pep leaves. Liverpool then clean up (or arsenal, it ain’t going to be us
The next titles would feel dirty and unmerited. There’s always be the question would city have won instead. And the answer probably would be that yes, they would..
That to me is asterisk title territory. Won on paper, but everyone knows it probably wouldn't have been that way otherwise.
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If City were stripped of titles and sides awarded said titles years down the line that would feel tainted (and I very much doubt that would happen anyway).
But subsequent titles really shouldn't feel remotely tainted, if a runner wins an Olympic medal or a cyclist a tour de France (having never doped), after the worst dopers in the history of their sports are finally banned no one in their right mind would consider that less of a win.
Whether you feel steroids should be banned would be more of an argument but the issue always becomes if one person is doing it then everyone has to do it in order to compete on a level playing field.
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That’s a poor comparison, because it’s not a level playing field because some times have much higher revenue through the stupid tv money and commercial revenue (ironically the ones that ffp almost seems designed to keep at the top, funny that.). So the steroid analogy does not work because no one starts at the same level.
If city are decimated and/or relegated so aren’t competing, that’s tainted in my book for anyone that does win, as the best team has been removed for non sporting reasons
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I just completely disagree that it taints anything, cheaters getting a ban for breaking rules (in Cities case to a spectacular degree if true) and a side playing by the rules winning is genuine winning. If you don't agree that's fair enough. Part of football is financial regulation, just as squad sizes are limited, it's sporting reasons in a similar way to doping, off field intimidation, bribing etc etc - part of the rules of the sport that exist outside of a 90 minute game.
Comparing to steroids isn't perfect but your reasoning also has flaws there, natural ability varies among athletes to start with, there is no true even playing field in sport.
There are rules and if they're broken there are often consequences. Playing by the rules and winning is about as pure/untainted as sporting acheivements can get...
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 9 hours, 50 minutes ago
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 27 minutes ago
That’s a funny one…. Say City found guilty,, hit with a relegation, everyone including pep leaves. Liverpool then clean up (or arsenal, it ain’t going to be us
The next titles would feel dirty and unmerited. There’s always be the question would city have won instead. And the answer probably would be that yes, they would..
That to me is asterisk title territory. Won on paper, but everyone knows it probably wouldn't have been that way otherwise.
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If City were stripped of titles and sides awarded said titles years down the line that would feel tainted (and I very much doubt that would happen anyway).
But subsequent titles really shouldn't feel remotely tainted, if a runner wins an Olympic medal or a cyclist a tour de France (having never doped), after the worst dopers in the history of their sports are finally banned no one in their right mind would consider that less of a win.
Whether you feel steroids should be banned would be more of an argument but the issue always becomes if one person is doing it then everyone has to do it in order to compete on a level playing field.
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That’s a poor comparison, because it’s not a level playing field because some times have much higher revenue through the stupid tv money and commercial revenue (ironically the ones that ffp almost seems designed to keep at the top, funny that.). So the steroid analogy does not work because no one starts at the same level.
If city are decimated and/or relegated so aren’t competing, that’s tainted in my book for anyone that does win, as the best team has been removed for non sporting reasons
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I just completely disagree that it taints anything, cheaters getting a ban for breaking rules (in Cities case to a spectacular degree if true) and a side playing by the rules winning is genuine winning. If you don't agree that's fair enough. Part of football is financial regulation, just as squad sizes are limited, it's sporting reasons in a similar way to doping, off field intimidation, bribing etc etc - part of the rules of the sport that exist outside of a 90 minute game.
Comparing to steroids isn't perfect but your reasoning also has flaws there, natural ability varies among athletes to start with, there is no true even playing field in sport.
There are rules and if they're broken there are often consequences. Playing by the rules and winning is about as pure/untainted as sporting acheivements can get...
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There would always be the question, would x have won it if city hadn’t been punished, ergo tainted..
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 9 hours, 50 minutes ago
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 27 minutes ago
That’s a funny one…. Say City found guilty,, hit with a relegation, everyone including pep leaves. Liverpool then clean up (or arsenal, it ain’t going to be us
The next titles would feel dirty and unmerited. There’s always be the question would city have won instead. And the answer probably would be that yes, they would..
That to me is asterisk title territory. Won on paper, but everyone knows it probably wouldn't have been that way otherwise.
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If City were stripped of titles and sides awarded said titles years down the line that would feel tainted (and I very much doubt that would happen anyway).
But subsequent titles really shouldn't feel remotely tainted, if a runner wins an Olympic medal or a cyclist a tour de France (having never doped), after the worst dopers in the history of their sports are finally banned no one in their right mind would consider that less of a win.
Whether you feel steroids should be banned would be more of an argument but the issue always becomes if one person is doing it then everyone has to do it in order to compete on a level playing field.
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That’s a poor comparison, because it’s not a level playing field because some times have much higher revenue through the stupid tv money and commercial revenue (ironically the ones that ffp almost seems designed to keep at the top, funny that.). So the steroid analogy does not work because no one starts at the same level.
If city are decimated and/or relegated so aren’t competing, that’s tainted in my book for anyone that does win, as the best team has been removed for non sporting reasons
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No that’s rubbish, If they get punished for cheating how does that taint any future titles
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 10 hours, 37 minutes ago
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 27 minutes ago
That’s a funny one…. Say City found guilty,, hit with a relegation, everyone including pep leaves. Liverpool then clean up (or arsenal, it ain’t going to be us
The next titles would feel dirty and unmerited. There’s always be the question would city have won instead. And the answer probably would be that yes, they would..
That to me is asterisk title territory. Won on paper, but everyone knows it probably wouldn't have been that way otherwise.
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If City were stripped of titles and sides awarded said titles years down the line that would feel tainted (and I very much doubt that would happen anyway).
But subsequent titles really shouldn't feel remotely tainted, if a runner wins an Olympic medal or a cyclist a tour de France (having never doped), after the worst dopers in the history of their sports are finally banned no one in their right mind would consider that less of a win.
Whether you feel steroids should be banned would be more of an argument but the issue always becomes if one person is doing it then everyone has to do it in order to compete on a level playing field.
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What a complete load of bolloxs
The charges are about financial discrepancies, not about bribing officials or match fixing.
Nothing City may have done in the past is the reason that clubs like Arsenal have spent a $hitload of money over the last few seasons to bomb in Europe on an annual basis and fail to win the Premier League.
Most people don't even know what the actual charges on here, no one has heard the evidence but apparently it's the sole reason for other clubs failings.
"The reason we didn't win the Title last season was because City cooked the books 15 years ago"
"My wife left me"
"Why mate?"
"Because Robert Mancini had a side job coaching in the UAE IN 2011"
We don't need to be given their titles. They should just be stripped and left vacant.
A massive fine would be pointless, a relegation would be damaging but they'd get promoted straight away and be back competing quickly. However if they strip their titles in the impacted period it's permanently damages everything they have been building for. That's the punishment they should get.
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 7 minutes ago
We don't need to be given their titles. They should just be stripped and left vacant.
A massive fine would be pointless, a relegation would be damaging but they'd get promoted straight away and be back competing quickly. However if they strip their titles in the impacted period it's permanently damages everything they have been building for. That's the punishment they should get.
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Mass executions then?
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 7 minutes ago
We don't need to be given their titles. They should just be stripped and left vacant.
A massive fine would be pointless, a relegation would be damaging but they'd get promoted straight away and be back competing quickly. However if they strip their titles in the impacted period it's permanently damages everything they have been building for. That's the punishment they should get.
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Mass executions then?
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Nah we aren't like the crown Princes of this world that make people disappear. 😉
That's too far. Just erase your famous Aguero moment from the record books as it was achieved by cheating. 😂
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 2 hours, 9 minutes ago
Btw the correct title for this article was OMAR COMIN'
But nevermind
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comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 10 hours, 37 minutes ago
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 27 minutes ago
That’s a funny one…. Say City found guilty,, hit with a relegation, everyone including pep leaves. Liverpool then clean up (or arsenal, it ain’t going to be us
The next titles would feel dirty and unmerited. There’s always be the question would city have won instead. And the answer probably would be that yes, they would..
That to me is asterisk title territory. Won on paper, but everyone knows it probably wouldn't have been that way otherwise.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If City were stripped of titles and sides awarded said titles years down the line that would feel tainted (and I very much doubt that would happen anyway).
But subsequent titles really shouldn't feel remotely tainted, if a runner wins an Olympic medal or a cyclist a tour de France (having never doped), after the worst dopers in the history of their sports are finally banned no one in their right mind would consider that less of a win.
Whether you feel steroids should be banned would be more of an argument but the issue always becomes if one person is doing it then everyone has to do it in order to compete on a level playing field.
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What a complete load of bolloxs
The charges are about financial discrepancies, not about bribing officials or match fixing.
Nothing City may have done in the past is the reason that clubs like Arsenal have spent a $hitload of money over the last few seasons to bomb in Europe on an annual basis and fail to win the Premier League.
Most people don't even know what the actual charges on here, no one has heard the evidence but apparently it's the sole reason for other clubs failings.
"The reason we didn't win the Title last season was because City cooked the books 15 years ago"
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No need to have a meltdown
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 7 minutes ago
We don't need to be given their titles. They should just be stripped and left vacant.
A massive fine would be pointless, a relegation would be damaging but they'd get promoted straight away and be back competing quickly. However if they strip their titles in the impacted period it's permanently damages everything they have been building for. That's the punishment they should get.
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Mass executions then?
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Nah we aren't like the crown Princes of this world that make people disappear. 😉
That's too far. Just erase your famous Aguero moment from the record books as it was achieved by cheating. 😂
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Still better about Sheikh Jissum then?
Only United could find a Qatari Prince that's potless.
And thank god he was too.
I'd hate to be what you lot are. A soulless and plastic marketing vehicle for the middle East. Tinpot City.
You were more of a proper football club 15 years ago than you are now even though you were crap. 👍
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 16 minutes ago
And thank god he was too.
I'd hate to be what you lot are. A soulless and plastic marketing vehicle for the middle East. Tinpot City.
You were more of a proper football club 15 years ago than you are now even though you were crap. 👍
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I am sorry mate this is unfair.
They have changed English football. Their manager has made this league a joke due to how dominant he has been. What we once thought could not be done in the English Premier league is being done by Pep.
The owners have invested a lot in Manchester and in the process provided a lot of jobs for local people.
The above take lacks objectivity.
we should sort out our own problems first. With all due respect we are in no position to be attacking City and their owners bearing in mind our own owners.
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posted on 20/1/24
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
Not my fault you were talking out of your backside making the claim Qatar would just pay what they Glazers want
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I did not claim that. There you go telling porkies again after everyone on that thread was laughing at your stupidity.
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“the State of Qatar could not cough up mere six billion quid.” VC
Feel free to proceed in ruining another thread! You have live a sad fecking life to come here and just pick arguments and want to point score.
Have a good night.
Melts, as always good to have a decent dialogue.
posted on 20/1/24
That’s a funny one…. Say City found guilty,, hit with a relegation, everyone including pep leaves. Liverpool then clean up (or arsenal, it ain’t going to be us
The next titles would feel dirty and unmerited. There’s always be the question would city have won instead. And the answer probably would be that yes, they would..
That to me is asterisk title territory. Won on paper, but everyone knows it probably wouldn't have been that way otherwise.
posted on 20/1/24
I must admit, the lad was funny as f@ck with his business acumen.
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Indeed, the SEC as a glazer PR machine was a particular highlight of his business acumen
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This was equally as funny. Talking about the people who spent around 660 billion on hosting the World Cup.
“My business acumen tells me they did not accumulate that much wealth just to throw it away for ego purposes.”
posted on 20/1/24
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 50 seconds ago
That’s a funny one…. Say City found guilty,, hit with a relegation, everyone including pep leaves. Liverpool then clean up (or arsenal, it ain’t going to be us
The next titles would feel dirty and unmerited. There’s always be the question would city have won instead. And the answer probably would be that yes, they would..
That to me is asterisk title territory. Won on paper, but everyone knows it probably wouldn't have been that way otherwise.
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Well that's just bloody depressing.
posted on 21/1/24
comment by Pun (U21588)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 50 seconds ago
That’s a funny one…. Say City found guilty,, hit with a relegation, everyone including pep leaves. Liverpool then clean up (or arsenal, it ain’t going to be us
The next titles would feel dirty and unmerited. There’s always be the question would city have won instead. And the answer probably would be that yes, they would..
That to me is asterisk title territory. Won on paper, but everyone knows it probably wouldn't have been that way otherwise.
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Well that's just bloody depressing.
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True though. People will think that.especially as it seems the likes of Liverpool and us have been very keen in support of these charges.
posted on 21/1/24
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 27 minutes ago
That’s a funny one…. Say City found guilty,, hit with a relegation, everyone including pep leaves. Liverpool then clean up (or arsenal, it ain’t going to be us
The next titles would feel dirty and unmerited. There’s always be the question would city have won instead. And the answer probably would be that yes, they would..
That to me is asterisk title territory. Won on paper, but everyone knows it probably wouldn't have been that way otherwise.
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If City were stripped of titles and sides awarded said titles years down the line that would feel tainted (and I very much doubt that would happen anyway).
But subsequent titles really shouldn't feel remotely tainted, if a runner wins an Olympic medal or a cyclist a tour de France (having never doped), after the worst dopers in the history of their sports are finally banned no one in their right mind would consider that less of a win.
Whether you feel steroids should be banned would be more of an argument but the issue always becomes if one person is doing it then everyone has to do it in order to compete on a level playing field.
posted on 21/1/24
To be fair he's achieved probably everything at City.
He may see united as an interesting project.
A club that has been struggling for a decade. Has an unlimited pot of money, old infrastructure.
Many people would relish the challenge. I would.
posted on 21/1/24
He'd be on gardening leave for a while wouldn't he, as is usual when key execs go from one large organisation to a rival.
posted on 21/1/24
This is great news. Now all we need is to do is hire the inhaler guy from Liverpool and we'll surely be unstoppable
posted on 21/1/24
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 22 minutes ago
He'd be on gardening leave for a while wouldn't he, as is usual when key execs go from one large organisation to a rival.
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Yeah I think his official starting date is in the summer. Then he'll work for us for 19 years, then City's case will be heard and we'll have to part ways when he's incarcerated
posted on 21/1/24
Btw the correct title for this article was OMAR COMIN'
But nevermind
posted on 21/1/24
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 9 hours, 50 minutes ago
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 27 minutes ago
That’s a funny one…. Say City found guilty,, hit with a relegation, everyone including pep leaves. Liverpool then clean up (or arsenal, it ain’t going to be us
The next titles would feel dirty and unmerited. There’s always be the question would city have won instead. And the answer probably would be that yes, they would..
That to me is asterisk title territory. Won on paper, but everyone knows it probably wouldn't have been that way otherwise.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If City were stripped of titles and sides awarded said titles years down the line that would feel tainted (and I very much doubt that would happen anyway).
But subsequent titles really shouldn't feel remotely tainted, if a runner wins an Olympic medal or a cyclist a tour de France (having never doped), after the worst dopers in the history of their sports are finally banned no one in their right mind would consider that less of a win.
Whether you feel steroids should be banned would be more of an argument but the issue always becomes if one person is doing it then everyone has to do it in order to compete on a level playing field.
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That’s a poor comparison, because it’s not a level playing field because some times have much higher revenue through the stupid tv money and commercial revenue (ironically the ones that ffp almost seems designed to keep at the top, funny that.). So the steroid analogy does not work because no one starts at the same level.
If city are decimated and/or relegated so aren’t competing, that’s tainted in my book for anyone that does win, as the best team has been removed for non sporting reasons
posted on 21/1/24
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 9 hours, 50 minutes ago
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 27 minutes ago
That’s a funny one…. Say City found guilty,, hit with a relegation, everyone including pep leaves. Liverpool then clean up (or arsenal, it ain’t going to be us
The next titles would feel dirty and unmerited. There’s always be the question would city have won instead. And the answer probably would be that yes, they would..
That to me is asterisk title territory. Won on paper, but everyone knows it probably wouldn't have been that way otherwise.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If City were stripped of titles and sides awarded said titles years down the line that would feel tainted (and I very much doubt that would happen anyway).
But subsequent titles really shouldn't feel remotely tainted, if a runner wins an Olympic medal or a cyclist a tour de France (having never doped), after the worst dopers in the history of their sports are finally banned no one in their right mind would consider that less of a win.
Whether you feel steroids should be banned would be more of an argument but the issue always becomes if one person is doing it then everyone has to do it in order to compete on a level playing field.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That’s a poor comparison, because it’s not a level playing field because some times have much higher revenue through the stupid tv money and commercial revenue (ironically the ones that ffp almost seems designed to keep at the top, funny that.). So the steroid analogy does not work because no one starts at the same level.
If city are decimated and/or relegated so aren’t competing, that’s tainted in my book for anyone that does win, as the best team has been removed for non sporting reasons
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I just completely disagree that it taints anything, cheaters getting a ban for breaking rules (in Cities case to a spectacular degree if true) and a side playing by the rules winning is genuine winning. If you don't agree that's fair enough. Part of football is financial regulation, just as squad sizes are limited, it's sporting reasons in a similar way to doping, off field intimidation, bribing etc etc - part of the rules of the sport that exist outside of a 90 minute game.
Comparing to steroids isn't perfect but your reasoning also has flaws there, natural ability varies among athletes to start with, there is no true even playing field in sport.
There are rules and if they're broken there are often consequences. Playing by the rules and winning is about as pure/untainted as sporting acheivements can get...
posted on 21/1/24
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 9 hours, 50 minutes ago
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 27 minutes ago
That’s a funny one…. Say City found guilty,, hit with a relegation, everyone including pep leaves. Liverpool then clean up (or arsenal, it ain’t going to be us
The next titles would feel dirty and unmerited. There’s always be the question would city have won instead. And the answer probably would be that yes, they would..
That to me is asterisk title territory. Won on paper, but everyone knows it probably wouldn't have been that way otherwise.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If City were stripped of titles and sides awarded said titles years down the line that would feel tainted (and I very much doubt that would happen anyway).
But subsequent titles really shouldn't feel remotely tainted, if a runner wins an Olympic medal or a cyclist a tour de France (having never doped), after the worst dopers in the history of their sports are finally banned no one in their right mind would consider that less of a win.
Whether you feel steroids should be banned would be more of an argument but the issue always becomes if one person is doing it then everyone has to do it in order to compete on a level playing field.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That’s a poor comparison, because it’s not a level playing field because some times have much higher revenue through the stupid tv money and commercial revenue (ironically the ones that ffp almost seems designed to keep at the top, funny that.). So the steroid analogy does not work because no one starts at the same level.
If city are decimated and/or relegated so aren’t competing, that’s tainted in my book for anyone that does win, as the best team has been removed for non sporting reasons
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I just completely disagree that it taints anything, cheaters getting a ban for breaking rules (in Cities case to a spectacular degree if true) and a side playing by the rules winning is genuine winning. If you don't agree that's fair enough. Part of football is financial regulation, just as squad sizes are limited, it's sporting reasons in a similar way to doping, off field intimidation, bribing etc etc - part of the rules of the sport that exist outside of a 90 minute game.
Comparing to steroids isn't perfect but your reasoning also has flaws there, natural ability varies among athletes to start with, there is no true even playing field in sport.
There are rules and if they're broken there are often consequences. Playing by the rules and winning is about as pure/untainted as sporting acheivements can get...
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There would always be the question, would x have won it if city hadn’t been punished, ergo tainted..
posted on 21/1/24
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 9 hours, 50 minutes ago
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 27 minutes ago
That’s a funny one…. Say City found guilty,, hit with a relegation, everyone including pep leaves. Liverpool then clean up (or arsenal, it ain’t going to be us
The next titles would feel dirty and unmerited. There’s always be the question would city have won instead. And the answer probably would be that yes, they would..
That to me is asterisk title territory. Won on paper, but everyone knows it probably wouldn't have been that way otherwise.
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If City were stripped of titles and sides awarded said titles years down the line that would feel tainted (and I very much doubt that would happen anyway).
But subsequent titles really shouldn't feel remotely tainted, if a runner wins an Olympic medal or a cyclist a tour de France (having never doped), after the worst dopers in the history of their sports are finally banned no one in their right mind would consider that less of a win.
Whether you feel steroids should be banned would be more of an argument but the issue always becomes if one person is doing it then everyone has to do it in order to compete on a level playing field.
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That’s a poor comparison, because it’s not a level playing field because some times have much higher revenue through the stupid tv money and commercial revenue (ironically the ones that ffp almost seems designed to keep at the top, funny that.). So the steroid analogy does not work because no one starts at the same level.
If city are decimated and/or relegated so aren’t competing, that’s tainted in my book for anyone that does win, as the best team has been removed for non sporting reasons
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No that’s rubbish, If they get punished for cheating how does that taint any future titles
posted on 21/1/24
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 10 hours, 37 minutes ago
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 27 minutes ago
That’s a funny one…. Say City found guilty,, hit with a relegation, everyone including pep leaves. Liverpool then clean up (or arsenal, it ain’t going to be us
The next titles would feel dirty and unmerited. There’s always be the question would city have won instead. And the answer probably would be that yes, they would..
That to me is asterisk title territory. Won on paper, but everyone knows it probably wouldn't have been that way otherwise.
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If City were stripped of titles and sides awarded said titles years down the line that would feel tainted (and I very much doubt that would happen anyway).
But subsequent titles really shouldn't feel remotely tainted, if a runner wins an Olympic medal or a cyclist a tour de France (having never doped), after the worst dopers in the history of their sports are finally banned no one in their right mind would consider that less of a win.
Whether you feel steroids should be banned would be more of an argument but the issue always becomes if one person is doing it then everyone has to do it in order to compete on a level playing field.
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What a complete load of bolloxs
The charges are about financial discrepancies, not about bribing officials or match fixing.
Nothing City may have done in the past is the reason that clubs like Arsenal have spent a $hitload of money over the last few seasons to bomb in Europe on an annual basis and fail to win the Premier League.
Most people don't even know what the actual charges on here, no one has heard the evidence but apparently it's the sole reason for other clubs failings.
"The reason we didn't win the Title last season was because City cooked the books 15 years ago"
posted on 21/1/24
"My wife left me"
"Why mate?"
"Because Robert Mancini had a side job coaching in the UAE IN 2011"
posted on 21/1/24
We don't need to be given their titles. They should just be stripped and left vacant.
A massive fine would be pointless, a relegation would be damaging but they'd get promoted straight away and be back competing quickly. However if they strip their titles in the impacted period it's permanently damages everything they have been building for. That's the punishment they should get.
posted on 21/1/24
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 7 minutes ago
We don't need to be given their titles. They should just be stripped and left vacant.
A massive fine would be pointless, a relegation would be damaging but they'd get promoted straight away and be back competing quickly. However if they strip their titles in the impacted period it's permanently damages everything they have been building for. That's the punishment they should get.
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Mass executions then?
posted on 21/1/24
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 7 minutes ago
We don't need to be given their titles. They should just be stripped and left vacant.
A massive fine would be pointless, a relegation would be damaging but they'd get promoted straight away and be back competing quickly. However if they strip their titles in the impacted period it's permanently damages everything they have been building for. That's the punishment they should get.
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Mass executions then?
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Nah we aren't like the crown Princes of this world that make people disappear. 😉
That's too far. Just erase your famous Aguero moment from the record books as it was achieved by cheating. 😂
posted on 21/1/24
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 2 hours, 9 minutes ago
Btw the correct title for this article was OMAR COMIN'
But nevermind
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posted on 21/1/24
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Two Balls, One Saka (U19684)
posted 10 hours, 37 minutes ago
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 27 minutes ago
That’s a funny one…. Say City found guilty,, hit with a relegation, everyone including pep leaves. Liverpool then clean up (or arsenal, it ain’t going to be us
The next titles would feel dirty and unmerited. There’s always be the question would city have won instead. And the answer probably would be that yes, they would..
That to me is asterisk title territory. Won on paper, but everyone knows it probably wouldn't have been that way otherwise.
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If City were stripped of titles and sides awarded said titles years down the line that would feel tainted (and I very much doubt that would happen anyway).
But subsequent titles really shouldn't feel remotely tainted, if a runner wins an Olympic medal or a cyclist a tour de France (having never doped), after the worst dopers in the history of their sports are finally banned no one in their right mind would consider that less of a win.
Whether you feel steroids should be banned would be more of an argument but the issue always becomes if one person is doing it then everyone has to do it in order to compete on a level playing field.
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What a complete load of bolloxs
The charges are about financial discrepancies, not about bribing officials or match fixing.
Nothing City may have done in the past is the reason that clubs like Arsenal have spent a $hitload of money over the last few seasons to bomb in Europe on an annual basis and fail to win the Premier League.
Most people don't even know what the actual charges on here, no one has heard the evidence but apparently it's the sole reason for other clubs failings.
"The reason we didn't win the Title last season was because City cooked the books 15 years ago"
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No need to have a meltdown
posted on 21/1/24
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 7 minutes ago
We don't need to be given their titles. They should just be stripped and left vacant.
A massive fine would be pointless, a relegation would be damaging but they'd get promoted straight away and be back competing quickly. However if they strip their titles in the impacted period it's permanently damages everything they have been building for. That's the punishment they should get.
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Mass executions then?
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Nah we aren't like the crown Princes of this world that make people disappear. 😉
That's too far. Just erase your famous Aguero moment from the record books as it was achieved by cheating. 😂
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Still better about Sheikh Jissum then?
Only United could find a Qatari Prince that's potless.
posted on 21/1/24
And thank god he was too.
I'd hate to be what you lot are. A soulless and plastic marketing vehicle for the middle East. Tinpot City.
You were more of a proper football club 15 years ago than you are now even though you were crap. 👍
posted on 21/1/24
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 16 minutes ago
And thank god he was too.
I'd hate to be what you lot are. A soulless and plastic marketing vehicle for the middle East. Tinpot City.
You were more of a proper football club 15 years ago than you are now even though you were crap. 👍
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I am sorry mate this is unfair.
They have changed English football. Their manager has made this league a joke due to how dominant he has been. What we once thought could not be done in the English Premier league is being done by Pep.
The owners have invested a lot in Manchester and in the process provided a lot of jobs for local people.
The above take lacks objectivity.
we should sort out our own problems first. With all due respect we are in no position to be attacking City and their owners bearing in mind our own owners.
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