comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 6 minutes ago
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/68499071
So ticket prices AREN’T going up by 6%?
Honestly, who to believe?
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no they are.
But the reduction of the over 65s concession is like an additional 5% increase each year to those who currently get 50% off their ticket price. In 5 years time it will only be a 25% concession.
Dont worry, none of the price increases impact on you
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 1 hour, 36 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 13 seconds ago
For the record, I don’t doubt Ange at all. He’s won trophies everywhere he’s been and, like almost all of the managers and players that have left us before, he will win more wherever he goes next.
Ange isn’t the problem mate π
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Well quite.
Weird that this lot STILL don’t get it.
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Most do mate. Just a few posters on here that are happy with no trophies. Satisfied with financial gain even though none of it has transferred to the pitch.
I was priced out of spurs last season, my dad will be now levy us getting rid of senior concessions. One d 1ck head on here actually said they were GLAD about that. So I give absolutely no credence to anything that a crettin like that would say.
The club can’t have it both ways. If they want to treat us like customers, we have a right to demand a first class product.
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Priced out last season??? Ticket prices haven't changed since 2020/21 and even then it was a 1.5% increase (that's about £15 for the average ST), so i am not buying this from you at all.
For me life's about choices and priorities and some just expect to be able to do everything they want.
Recent inflation has meant thing like going to the pub, going out for a meal, taking a flight somewhere or booking any kind of holiday has got a lot more expensive. I don't know what job you do but no doubt your pay has gone up and more is being charged for your services.
I do not know why fans think Spurs or football should be immune from such pressures and should act as a charity to their loyal supporters. I am a loyal customer at my local pub, but they raised the price of beer and i still pay as much as some random one time customer.
I do consider the concession change to be unnecessary, although it is a gradual thing, reduced from 50% to 25% over 5 years (5% a season), so realistically their STs are going up by another £50 a year, or £2.50 per game. A poor choice for me as although its not a massive additional cost per game, it wont raise much money either, so politically probably unwise.
It will probably reflect the demographic of the club and they can probably predict based on the age of current STH that in 5 years time, there will be a lot more concessions and revenues will be falling, despite sell outs. If it had been offset with a reduction or freeze on youth tickets and season tickets then it would have been more palatable and building our fans base of the future.
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I hear what you’re saying. I too feel the OAP concessions reductions distasteful. And like you said if the demographics are changing, the way to improve this is to offer reductions for children to ensure future revenues and ticket sales. Increase the middle chunk of ST pricing which is likely to rise the most money and offset both concessions to the point where they are negligible
its a problem of their own making
Expensive STs makes it more likely that the bulk who can afford them will be professional working men and that group, as they get older, will fall into the concession category and become the dominant make up of a crowd.
This should have been envisaged and a much more youth and family based ticket structure should have been in place from day 1 of the new stadium. They took a pretty short term view and now are having to cope with the fall out.
Pricing in the Prem in general is stupid, I cannot stand the £30 away game cap as you just can’t get away tickets anymore - not because more kids or lower income families get to go, that I wouldn’t mind, no it’s because £30 is fine for those who just want to constantly top up loyalty points - then flog the tickets on to others, so effectively getting the points for free.
Then you have the issue that the away fans are watching the same game as the home fans for half the price if not more.
I don’t understand why the Premier league can impose caps on away tickets but not home tickets?
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 1 hour, 36 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 13 seconds ago
For the record, I don’t doubt Ange at all. He’s won trophies everywhere he’s been and, like almost all of the managers and players that have left us before, he will win more wherever he goes next.
Ange isn’t the problem mate π
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Well quite.
Weird that this lot STILL don’t get it.
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Most do mate. Just a few posters on here that are happy with no trophies. Satisfied with financial gain even though none of it has transferred to the pitch.
I was priced out of spurs last season, my dad will be now levy us getting rid of senior concessions. One d 1ck head on here actually said they were GLAD about that. So I give absolutely no credence to anything that a crettin like that would say.
The club can’t have it both ways. If they want to treat us like customers, we have a right to demand a first class product.
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Priced out last season??? Ticket prices haven't changed since 2020/21 and even then it was a 1.5% increase (that's about £15 for the average ST), so i am not buying this from you at all.
For me life's about choices and priorities and some just expect to be able to do everything they want.
Recent inflation has meant thing like going to the pub, going out for a meal, taking a flight somewhere or booking any kind of holiday has got a lot more expensive. I don't know what job you do but no doubt your pay has gone up and more is being charged for your services.
I do not know why fans think Spurs or football should be immune from such pressures and should act as a charity to their loyal supporters. I am a loyal customer at my local pub, but they raised the price of beer and i still pay as much as some random one time customer.
I do consider the concession change to be unnecessary, although it is a gradual thing, reduced from 50% to 25% over 5 years (5% a season), so realistically their STs are going up by another £50 a year, or £2.50 per game. A poor choice for me as although its not a massive additional cost per game, it wont raise much money either, so politically probably unwise.
It will probably reflect the demographic of the club and they can probably predict based on the age of current STH that in 5 years time, there will be a lot more concessions and revenues will be falling, despite sell outs. If it had been offset with a reduction or freeze on youth tickets and season tickets then it would have been more palatable and building our fans base of the future.
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Not sure you noticed the 20 percent hike in match day tickets then or the reduction in juniour concessions. Must have just been the other hundred thousand spurs fans
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 17 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 1 hour, 36 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 13 seconds ago
For the record, I don’t doubt Ange at all. He’s won trophies everywhere he’s been and, like almost all of the managers and players that have left us before, he will win more wherever he goes next.
Ange isn’t the problem mate π
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well quite.
Weird that this lot STILL don’t get it.
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Most do mate. Just a few posters on here that are happy with no trophies. Satisfied with financial gain even though none of it has transferred to the pitch.
I was priced out of spurs last season, my dad will be now levy us getting rid of senior concessions. One d 1ck head on here actually said they were GLAD about that. So I give absolutely no credence to anything that a crettin like that would say.
The club can’t have it both ways. If they want to treat us like customers, we have a right to demand a first class product.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Priced out last season??? Ticket prices haven't changed since 2020/21 and even then it was a 1.5% increase (that's about £15 for the average ST), so i am not buying this from you at all.
For me life's about choices and priorities and some just expect to be able to do everything they want.
Recent inflation has meant thing like going to the pub, going out for a meal, taking a flight somewhere or booking any kind of holiday has got a lot more expensive. I don't know what job you do but no doubt your pay has gone up and more is being charged for your services.
I do not know why fans think Spurs or football should be immune from such pressures and should act as a charity to their loyal supporters. I am a loyal customer at my local pub, but they raised the price of beer and i still pay as much as some random one time customer.
I do consider the concession change to be unnecessary, although it is a gradual thing, reduced from 50% to 25% over 5 years (5% a season), so realistically their STs are going up by another £50 a year, or £2.50 per game. A poor choice for me as although its not a massive additional cost per game, it wont raise much money either, so politically probably unwise.
It will probably reflect the demographic of the club and they can probably predict based on the age of current STH that in 5 years time, there will be a lot more concessions and revenues will be falling, despite sell outs. If it had been offset with a reduction or freeze on youth tickets and season tickets then it would have been more palatable and building our fans base of the future.
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I’m a firefighter and I had a ten year pay freeze and then five below inflation pay rises. I’m down twenty percent on where I would have been if the Tories weren’t in power. ( about 9 grand a year)
The club has maximised and added new profit streams from revenues such as concerts, nfl, go karting, climb the stadium, boxing etc etc. why couldn’t they offset the rising match day costs from there? And why 6 %? Inflation is way below that.
Why cut senior concessions?
Why announce all this in a gap of four weeks between home games? Is it because they know it’s lower than a snakes belly?
Nothing I have said is wrong mate. If the price rises don’t get you, then lucky you. My family have been going to spurs for 70 years. That , in all likelihood will have been stopped by Enics greed and profiteering. I’m not the only loyal fan in this position.
What have you got to show for it? 1 trophy in 24 years.
I’m glad you’re happy with it all mate. Good for you. Unfortunately it’s a different reality for some of us π
The quality of the squad, still needs improvement…if we are going to be competing in Europe & all the domestic titles/cups….then we need 22 players, who can push each, in their respective positions.
I’m talking about the likes of Royal, Davies, Skipp etc… who weaken the team, when they play…,
We are not far off, squad wise, where we need to be…
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 17 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 1 hour, 36 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 13 seconds ago
For the record, I don’t doubt Ange at all. He’s won trophies everywhere he’s been and, like almost all of the managers and players that have left us before, he will win more wherever he goes next.
Ange isn’t the problem mate π
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Well quite.
Weird that this lot STILL don’t get it.
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Most do mate. Just a few posters on here that are happy with no trophies. Satisfied with financial gain even though none of it has transferred to the pitch.
I was priced out of spurs last season, my dad will be now levy us getting rid of senior concessions. One d 1ck head on here actually said they were GLAD about that. So I give absolutely no credence to anything that a crettin like that would say.
The club can’t have it both ways. If they want to treat us like customers, we have a right to demand a first class product.
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Priced out last season??? Ticket prices haven't changed since 2020/21 and even then it was a 1.5% increase (that's about £15 for the average ST), so i am not buying this from you at all.
For me life's about choices and priorities and some just expect to be able to do everything they want.
Recent inflation has meant thing like going to the pub, going out for a meal, taking a flight somewhere or booking any kind of holiday has got a lot more expensive. I don't know what job you do but no doubt your pay has gone up and more is being charged for your services.
I do not know why fans think Spurs or football should be immune from such pressures and should act as a charity to their loyal supporters. I am a loyal customer at my local pub, but they raised the price of beer and i still pay as much as some random one time customer.
I do consider the concession change to be unnecessary, although it is a gradual thing, reduced from 50% to 25% over 5 years (5% a season), so realistically their STs are going up by another £50 a year, or £2.50 per game. A poor choice for me as although its not a massive additional cost per game, it wont raise much money either, so politically probably unwise.
It will probably reflect the demographic of the club and they can probably predict based on the age of current STH that in 5 years time, there will be a lot more concessions and revenues will be falling, despite sell outs. If it had been offset with a reduction or freeze on youth tickets and season tickets then it would have been more palatable and building our fans base of the future.
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I’m a firefighter and I had a ten year pay freeze and then five below inflation pay rises. I’m down twenty percent on where I would have been if the Tories weren’t in power. ( about 9 grand a year)
The club has maximised and added new profit streams from revenues such as concerts, nfl, go karting, climb the stadium, boxing etc etc. why couldn’t they offset the rising match day costs from there? And why 6 %? Inflation is way below that.
Why cut senior concessions?
Why announce all this in a gap of four weeks between home games? Is it because they know it’s lower than a snakes belly?
Nothing I have said is wrong mate. If the price rises don’t get you, then lucky you. My family have been going to spurs for 70 years. That , in all likelihood will have been stopped by Enics greed and profiteering. I’m not the only loyal fan in this position.
What have you got to show for it? 1 trophy in 24 years.
I’m glad you’re happy with it all mate. Good for you. Unfortunately it’s a different reality for some of us π
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It will all change when Starmer gets in, not
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 17 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 1 hour, 36 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 13 seconds ago
For the record, I don’t doubt Ange at all. He’s won trophies everywhere he’s been and, like almost all of the managers and players that have left us before, he will win more wherever he goes next.
Ange isn’t the problem mate π
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well quite.
Weird that this lot STILL don’t get it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Most do mate. Just a few posters on here that are happy with no trophies. Satisfied with financial gain even though none of it has transferred to the pitch.
I was priced out of spurs last season, my dad will be now levy us getting rid of senior concessions. One d 1ck head on here actually said they were GLAD about that. So I give absolutely no credence to anything that a crettin like that would say.
The club can’t have it both ways. If they want to treat us like customers, we have a right to demand a first class product.
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Priced out last season??? Ticket prices haven't changed since 2020/21 and even then it was a 1.5% increase (that's about £15 for the average ST), so i am not buying this from you at all.
For me life's about choices and priorities and some just expect to be able to do everything they want.
Recent inflation has meant thing like going to the pub, going out for a meal, taking a flight somewhere or booking any kind of holiday has got a lot more expensive. I don't know what job you do but no doubt your pay has gone up and more is being charged for your services.
I do not know why fans think Spurs or football should be immune from such pressures and should act as a charity to their loyal supporters. I am a loyal customer at my local pub, but they raised the price of beer and i still pay as much as some random one time customer.
I do consider the concession change to be unnecessary, although it is a gradual thing, reduced from 50% to 25% over 5 years (5% a season), so realistically their STs are going up by another £50 a year, or £2.50 per game. A poor choice for me as although its not a massive additional cost per game, it wont raise much money either, so politically probably unwise.
It will probably reflect the demographic of the club and they can probably predict based on the age of current STH that in 5 years time, there will be a lot more concessions and revenues will be falling, despite sell outs. If it had been offset with a reduction or freeze on youth tickets and season tickets then it would have been more palatable and building our fans base of the future.
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I’m a firefighter and I had a ten year pay freeze and then five below inflation pay rises. I’m down twenty percent on where I would have been if the Tories weren’t in power. ( about 9 grand a year)
The club has maximised and added new profit streams from revenues such as concerts, nfl, go karting, climb the stadium, boxing etc etc. why couldn’t they offset the rising match day costs from there? And why 6 %? Inflation is way below that.
Why cut senior concessions?
Why announce all this in a gap of four weeks between home games? Is it because they know it’s lower than a snakes belly?
Nothing I have said is wrong mate. If the price rises don’t get you, then lucky you. My family have been going to spurs for 70 years. That , in all likelihood will have been stopped by Enics greed and profiteering. I’m not the only loyal fan in this position.
What have you got to show for it? 1 trophy in 24 years.
I’m glad you’re happy with it all mate. Good for you. Unfortunately it’s a different reality for some of us π
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There is a whole load clubs could do to make it more affordable for locals, key workers like yourself and the under privileged but they don't and in fact very few clubs do.
This is not a Spurs problem it is a football problem and more acutely a London problem.
I do not think that other uses of the stadium should be subsidising the football. This has been built to give us financial advantage, not to make it cheaper for fans.
But I do think the club could be more creative with their pricing to better ensure equality and even subsidising of certain types of fan. The pricing is very rigid and there should be more sub categories of fans who can benefit from concessions.
If the club announced for example an 8% increase for certain ST holders but explained that this is necessary but also higher than it could be so to afford better concessions for kids/OAPs/Key workers etc, then it becomes a lot harder to be critical.
Of course the 6% is needed otherwise our revenues decrease, against a backdrop of inflation of about 16% since the last ST price rise., but they need to start doing some more good, while those who can better afford it foot the bill.
All of this against a back drop of fans like you demanding success and spending by the club
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 17 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 1 hour, 36 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 13 seconds ago
For the record, I don’t doubt Ange at all. He’s won trophies everywhere he’s been and, like almost all of the managers and players that have left us before, he will win more wherever he goes next.
Ange isn’t the problem mate π
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Well quite.
Weird that this lot STILL don’t get it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Most do mate. Just a few posters on here that are happy with no trophies. Satisfied with financial gain even though none of it has transferred to the pitch.
I was priced out of spurs last season, my dad will be now levy us getting rid of senior concessions. One d 1ck head on here actually said they were GLAD about that. So I give absolutely no credence to anything that a crettin like that would say.
The club can’t have it both ways. If they want to treat us like customers, we have a right to demand a first class product.
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Priced out last season??? Ticket prices haven't changed since 2020/21 and even then it was a 1.5% increase (that's about £15 for the average ST), so i am not buying this from you at all.
For me life's about choices and priorities and some just expect to be able to do everything they want.
Recent inflation has meant thing like going to the pub, going out for a meal, taking a flight somewhere or booking any kind of holiday has got a lot more expensive. I don't know what job you do but no doubt your pay has gone up and more is being charged for your services.
I do not know why fans think Spurs or football should be immune from such pressures and should act as a charity to their loyal supporters. I am a loyal customer at my local pub, but they raised the price of beer and i still pay as much as some random one time customer.
I do consider the concession change to be unnecessary, although it is a gradual thing, reduced from 50% to 25% over 5 years (5% a season), so realistically their STs are going up by another £50 a year, or £2.50 per game. A poor choice for me as although its not a massive additional cost per game, it wont raise much money either, so politically probably unwise.
It will probably reflect the demographic of the club and they can probably predict based on the age of current STH that in 5 years time, there will be a lot more concessions and revenues will be falling, despite sell outs. If it had been offset with a reduction or freeze on youth tickets and season tickets then it would have been more palatable and building our fans base of the future.
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I’m a firefighter and I had a ten year pay freeze and then five below inflation pay rises. I’m down twenty percent on where I would have been if the Tories weren’t in power. ( about 9 grand a year)
The club has maximised and added new profit streams from revenues such as concerts, nfl, go karting, climb the stadium, boxing etc etc. why couldn’t they offset the rising match day costs from there? And why 6 %? Inflation is way below that.
Why cut senior concessions?
Why announce all this in a gap of four weeks between home games? Is it because they know it’s lower than a snakes belly?
Nothing I have said is wrong mate. If the price rises don’t get you, then lucky you. My family have been going to spurs for 70 years. That , in all likelihood will have been stopped by Enics greed and profiteering. I’m not the only loyal fan in this position.
What have you got to show for it? 1 trophy in 24 years.
I’m glad you’re happy with it all mate. Good for you. Unfortunately it’s a different reality for some of us π
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There is a whole load clubs could do to make it more affordable for locals, key workers like yourself and the under privileged but they don't and in fact very few clubs do.
This is not a Spurs problem it is a football problem and more acutely a London problem.
I do not think that other uses of the stadium should be subsidising the football. This has been built to give us financial advantage, not to make it cheaper for fans.
But I do think the club could be more creative with their pricing to better ensure equality and even subsidising of certain types of fan. The pricing is very rigid and there should be more sub categories of fans who can benefit from concessions.
If the club announced for example an 8% increase for certain ST holders but explained that this is necessary but also higher than it could be so to afford better concessions for kids/OAPs/Key workers etc, then it becomes a lot harder to be critical.
Of course the 6% is needed otherwise our revenues decrease, against a backdrop of inflation of about 16% since the last ST price rise., but they need to start doing some more good, while those who can better afford it foot the bill.
All of this against a back drop of fans like you demanding success and spending by the club
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Well our demands for success have been in vain clearly.
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 17 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 1 hour, 36 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 13 seconds ago
For the record, I don’t doubt Ange at all. He’s won trophies everywhere he’s been and, like almost all of the managers and players that have left us before, he will win more wherever he goes next.
Ange isn’t the problem mate π
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well quite.
Weird that this lot STILL don’t get it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Most do mate. Just a few posters on here that are happy with no trophies. Satisfied with financial gain even though none of it has transferred to the pitch.
I was priced out of spurs last season, my dad will be now levy us getting rid of senior concessions. One d 1ck head on here actually said they were GLAD about that. So I give absolutely no credence to anything that a crettin like that would say.
The club can’t have it both ways. If they want to treat us like customers, we have a right to demand a first class product.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Priced out last season??? Ticket prices haven't changed since 2020/21 and even then it was a 1.5% increase (that's about £15 for the average ST), so i am not buying this from you at all.
For me life's about choices and priorities and some just expect to be able to do everything they want.
Recent inflation has meant thing like going to the pub, going out for a meal, taking a flight somewhere or booking any kind of holiday has got a lot more expensive. I don't know what job you do but no doubt your pay has gone up and more is being charged for your services.
I do not know why fans think Spurs or football should be immune from such pressures and should act as a charity to their loyal supporters. I am a loyal customer at my local pub, but they raised the price of beer and i still pay as much as some random one time customer.
I do consider the concession change to be unnecessary, although it is a gradual thing, reduced from 50% to 25% over 5 years (5% a season), so realistically their STs are going up by another £50 a year, or £2.50 per game. A poor choice for me as although its not a massive additional cost per game, it wont raise much money either, so politically probably unwise.
It will probably reflect the demographic of the club and they can probably predict based on the age of current STH that in 5 years time, there will be a lot more concessions and revenues will be falling, despite sell outs. If it had been offset with a reduction or freeze on youth tickets and season tickets then it would have been more palatable and building our fans base of the future.
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I’m a firefighter and I had a ten year pay freeze and then five below inflation pay rises. I’m down twenty percent on where I would have been if the Tories weren’t in power. ( about 9 grand a year)
The club has maximised and added new profit streams from revenues such as concerts, nfl, go karting, climb the stadium, boxing etc etc. why couldn’t they offset the rising match day costs from there? And why 6 %? Inflation is way below that.
Why cut senior concessions?
Why announce all this in a gap of four weeks between home games? Is it because they know it’s lower than a snakes belly?
Nothing I have said is wrong mate. If the price rises don’t get you, then lucky you. My family have been going to spurs for 70 years. That , in all likelihood will have been stopped by Enics greed and profiteering. I’m not the only loyal fan in this position.
What have you got to show for it? 1 trophy in 24 years.
I’m glad you’re happy with it all mate. Good for you. Unfortunately it’s a different reality for some of us π
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There is a whole load clubs could do to make it more affordable for locals, key workers like yourself and the under privileged but they don't and in fact very few clubs do.
This is not a Spurs problem it is a football problem and more acutely a London problem.
I do not think that other uses of the stadium should be subsidising the football. This has been built to give us financial advantage, not to make it cheaper for fans.
But I do think the club could be more creative with their pricing to better ensure equality and even subsidising of certain types of fan. The pricing is very rigid and there should be more sub categories of fans who can benefit from concessions.
If the club announced for example an 8% increase for certain ST holders but explained that this is necessary but also higher than it could be so to afford better concessions for kids/OAPs/Key workers etc, then it becomes a lot harder to be critical.
Of course the 6% is needed otherwise our revenues decrease, against a backdrop of inflation of about 16% since the last ST price rise., but they need to start doing some more good, while those who can better afford it foot the bill.
All of this against a back drop of fans like you demanding success and spending by the club
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Well our demands for success have been in vain clearly.
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Well you want Levy out because he's a cheapsake and that has held us back, but then in the same breath you want him out because he's rinsing the fans .
You'd have a point if the club were trousering massive profits/dividends, but they aint. It all goes back into the club
No. I don't say so, it's a fact. Which you choose to ignore.
Right, so Daniel and the board are just doing all this out of the goodness of the hearts?
Amazing, aren’t we lucky.
Fortunately there are a lot of ‘fans like me’ that believe the true measure of success is the trophies in the cabinet, not the profits in the spreadsheet.
As I said, if they are going to run a brutal business, where loyalty is no longer rewarded with concessions as it limits profits, then we as customers should be able to demand a better product.
Gone are the days where I used to pay a fiver to watch and be grateful for the odd good player like anderton or sheringham. It’s now such a huge cost for a family to go, that you must get something for your money, or you have a right to complain.
People on here laughed when I said I could no longer afford to take my son, including you who pretty much called me a liar.
He’s now a Brighton fan. Because they offered us junior and key worker concessions and we went to a couple of games. That probably doesn’t mean much to the likes of you, but ultimately if there are hundreds of youngsters like my boy , then spurs miss out as a club and I miss out on a 70 year tradition of going to spurs with my family.
This is happening all around you. Yes it’s not just spurs but guess what? They are amongst the most expensive and stingy of all the clubs in Europe. I went to Germany a few years back and watched Bayern Munich for under 20 euros.
Football is more than just a business to me. I coach kids with learning difficulties and let me tell you, the joy they get from being in a welcoming team is life changing for them.
People like levy, Enic, sky etc have taken that away from lots of people like me. For that I will never, ever forgive them.
Levy is a fraud. He cares nothing about you. Nothing. He would sell his own mother if he got a decent price.
And what have we got for it? 1 trophy in 24 years. Oh and a nice big profit margin.
That’s not enough for me. So yes, if he’s gonna charge £70 to watch us play Crystal bloody palace, put match day tickets up by 20 per cent, cut concessions everywhere, put the most expensive season tickets up by an above inflation rise then tell us all how we are now the most profitable sports organisation this side of the Atlantic, then I am not going to let him plead poverty when it comes to transfers.
Ultimately Tottenham Hotspur must be one of the most underperforming clubs football wise amongst the top teams in every league in the world. What other club turns over so much profit but has won so so little?
None. No one. Just spurs under Enic.
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 3 minutes ago
Fortunately there are a lot of ‘fans like me’ that believe the true measure of success is the trophies in the cabinet, not the profits in the spreadsheet.
As I said, if they are going to run a brutal business, where loyalty is no longer rewarded with concessions as it limits profits, then we as customers should be able to demand a better product.
Gone are the days where I used to pay a fiver to watch and be grateful for the odd good player like anderton or sheringham. It’s now such a huge cost for a family to go, that you must get something for your money, or you have a right to complain.
People on here laughed when I said I could no longer afford to take my son, including you who pretty much called me a liar.
He’s now a Brighton fan. Because they offered us junior and key worker concessions and we went to a couple of games. That probably doesn’t mean much to the likes of you, but ultimately if there are hundreds of youngsters like my boy , then spurs miss out as a club and I miss out on a 70 year tradition of going to spurs with my family.
This is happening all around you. Yes it’s not just spurs but guess what? They are amongst the most expensive and stingy of all the clubs in Europe. I went to Germany a few years back and watched Bayern Munich for under 20 euros.
Football is more than just a business to me. I coach kids with learning difficulties and let me tell you, the joy they get from being in a welcoming team is life changing for them.
People like levy, Enic, sky etc have taken that away from lots of people like me. For that I will never, ever forgive them.
Levy is a fraud. He cares nothing about you. Nothing. He would sell his own mother if he got a decent price.
And what have we got for it? 1 trophy in 24 years. Oh and a nice big profit margin.
That’s not enough for me. So yes, if he’s gonna charge £70 to watch us play Crystal bloody palace, put match day tickets up by 20 per cent, cut concessions everywhere, put the most expensive season tickets up by an above inflation rise then tell us all how we are now the most profitable sports organisation this side of the Atlantic, then I am not going to let him plead poverty when it comes to transfers.
Ultimately Tottenham Hotspur must be one of the most underperforming clubs football wise amongst the top teams in every league in the world. What other club turns over so much profit but has won so so little?
None. No one. Just spurs under Enic.
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comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 0 seconds ago
Fortunately there are a lot of ‘fans like me’ that believe the true measure of success is the trophies in the cabinet, not the profits in the spreadsheet.
As I said, if they are going to run a brutal business, where loyalty is no longer rewarded with concessions as it limits profits, then we as customers should be able to demand a better product.
Gone are the days where I used to pay a fiver to watch and be grateful for the odd good player like anderton or sheringham. It’s now such a huge cost for a family to go, that you must get something for your money, or you have a right to complain.
People on here laughed when I said I could no longer afford to take my son, including you who pretty much called me a liar.
He’s now a Brighton fan. Because they offered us junior and key worker concessions and we went to a couple of games. That probably doesn’t mean much to the likes of you, but ultimately if there are hundreds of youngsters like my boy , then spurs miss out as a club and I miss out on a 70 year tradition of going to spurs with my family.
This is happening all around you. Yes it’s not just spurs but guess what? They are amongst the most expensive and stingy of all the clubs in Europe. I went to Germany a few years back and watched Bayern Munich for under 20 euros.
Football is more than just a business to me. I coach kids with learning difficulties and let me tell you, the joy they get from being in a welcoming team is life changing for them.
People like levy, Enic, sky etc have taken that away from lots of people like me. For that I will never, ever forgive them.
Levy is a fraud. He cares nothing about you. Nothing. He would sell his own mother if he got a decent price.
And what have we got for it? 1 trophy in 24 years. Oh and a nice big profit margin.
That’s not enough for me. So yes, if he’s gonna charge £70 to watch us play Crystal bloody palace, put match day tickets up by 20 per cent, cut concessions everywhere, put the most expensive season tickets up by an above inflation rise then tell us all how we are now the most profitable sports organisation this side of the Atlantic, then I am not going to let him plead poverty when it comes to transfers.
Ultimately Tottenham Hotspur must be one of the most underperforming clubs football wise amongst the top teams in every league in the world. What other club turns over so much profit but has won so so little?
None. No one. Just spurs under Enic.
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Just to add, on reflection, I probably could afford to go to spurs still. If I cut the family holiday or bought less for the kids at Christmas. I think it’s more that I’ve hit the limit of what I think it’s worth. I simply do not feel I should have to do those things to watch my football club.
I’ve hit it now, others will hit it soon.
The stadium will be full of fans singing about profit margins rather than trophies!
“Champions of finance, you’ll never sing that”
I agree that prices for season tickets for most PL clubs are extortionate, along with the price of kits and merchandise etc. That's precisely why I nearly gave up my season ticket last year. I was paying good money to watch absolute dross.
The good news is that the football under Ange is very exciting to watch and the results have improved significantly too, so that softens the blow.
Despite the high prices, the stadium is always full (or practically full) and the atmosphere is great.
The more interest there is in tickets, the more the prices will increase, that is the unfortunate reality of market forces. It's just like airlines substantially increasing prices during school holidays because of the increased demand.
One day the bubble might burst, but for now clubs are milking fans for all they can - ALL clubs, not just Spurs
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comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 13 seconds ago
For the record, I don’t doubt Ange at all. He’s won trophies everywhere he’s been and, like almost all of the managers and players that have left us before, he will win more wherever he goes next.
Ange isn’t the problem mate π
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Well quite.
Weird that this lot STILL don’t get it.
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Most do mate. Just a few posters on here that are happy with no trophies. Satisfied with financial gain even though none of it has transferred to the pitch.
I was priced out of spurs last season, my dad will be now levy us getting rid of senior concessions. One d 1ck head on here actually said they were GLAD about that. So I give absolutely no credence to anything that a crettin like that would say.
The club can’t have it both ways. If they want to treat us like customers, we have a right to demand a first class product.
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Priced out last season??? Ticket prices haven't changed since 2020/21 and even then it was a 1.5% increase (that's about £15 for the average ST), so i am not buying this from you at all.
For me life's about choices and priorities and some just expect to be able to do everything they want.
Recent inflation has meant thing like going to the pub, going out for a meal, taking a flight somewhere or booking any kind of holiday has got a lot more expensive. I don't know what job you do but no doubt your pay has gone up and more is being charged for your services.
I do not know why fans think Spurs or football should be immune from such pressures and should act as a charity to their loyal supporters. I am a loyal customer at my local pub, but they raised the price of beer and i still pay as much as some random one time customer.
I do consider the concession change to be unnecessary, although it is a gradual thing, reduced from 50% to 25% over 5 years (5% a season), so realistically their STs are going up by another £50 a year, or £2.50 per game. A poor choice for me as although its not a massive additional cost per game, it wont raise much money either, so politically probably unwise.
It will probably reflect the demographic of the club and they can probably predict based on the age of current STH that in 5 years time, there will be a lot more concessions and revenues will be falling, despite sell outs. If it had been offset with a reduction or freeze on youth tickets and season tickets then it would have been more palatable and building our fans base of the future.
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I’m a firefighter and I had a ten year pay freeze and then five below inflation pay rises. I’m down twenty percent on where I would have been if the Tories weren’t in power. ( about 9 grand a year)
The club has maximised and added new profit streams from revenues such as concerts, nfl, go karting, climb the stadium, boxing etc etc. why couldn’t they offset the rising match day costs from there? And why 6 %? Inflation is way below that.
Why cut senior concessions?
Why announce all this in a gap of four weeks between home games? Is it because they know it’s lower than a snakes belly?
Nothing I have said is wrong mate. If the price rises don’t get you, then lucky you. My family have been going to spurs for 70 years. That , in all likelihood will have been stopped by Enics greed and profiteering. I’m not the only loyal fan in this position.
What have you got to show for it? 1 trophy in 24 years.
I’m glad you’re happy with it all mate. Good for you. Unfortunately it’s a different reality for some of us π
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I’m no big fan of Starmer but from a public service point of view, I simply do not believe he can be worse.
comment by Gezza-Spurs (U18952)
posted 10 seconds ago
I agree that prices for season tickets for most PL clubs are extortionate, along with the price of kits and merchandise etc. That's precisely why I nearly gave up my season ticket last year. I was paying good money to watch absolute dross.
The good news is that the football under Ange is very exciting to watch and the results have improved significantly too, so that softens the blow.
Despite the high prices, the stadium is always full (or practically full) and the atmosphere is great.
The more interest there is in tickets, the more the prices will increase, that is the unfortunate reality of market forces. It's just like airlines substantially increasing prices during school holidays because of the increased demand.
One day the bubble might burst, but for now clubs are milking fans for all they can - ALL clubs, not just Spurs
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Very true on all points.
I still maintain spurs are amongst the worst. Highest prices around and still raising above inflation whilst cutting senior concessions. They’ve already cut the percentage of junior concessions. TWENTY PERCENT match day ticket prices last year. TWENTY PERCENT. It’s simply unjustifiable. It’s nothing but greed, profiteering from loyalty.
But the stadium is full so the prices will continue to go upwards
So now you have to go to matches to have any kind of opinion on Spurs?
Jesus feckin christ. Morons.
Luka seems to be the one pushing that agenda yet he's remarkably present on here for someone that attends matches regularly. It's surprising that you're not absorbed in the game you're watching live rather than persistently commenting on the match thread every minute. If I didn't know any better I'd say you were at home, watching a dodgy stream and not, as you tend to suggest, in the ground supporting the team.
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 7 minutes ago
So now you have to go to matches to have any kind of opinion on Spurs?
Jesus feckin christ. Morons.
Luka seems to be the one pushing that agenda yet he's remarkably present on here for someone that attends matches regularly. It's surprising that you're not absorbed in the game you're watching live rather than persistently commenting on the match thread every minute. If I didn't know any better I'd say you were at home, watching a dodgy stream and not, as you tend to suggest, in the ground supporting the team.
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It is idiotic to believe that you have to go to matches to have a valid opinion on your team of choice. For various reasons, financial, location, family commitments etc, not all fans can go to games but that doesn't make them any less of a fan.
I think it is just a way of winning an argument by just demeaning someone's opinion by stating they 'don't go' so their view is less informed or important. I get the same as i rarely go to away games as apparently only home and away fans are 'real supporters'
For what it is worth (feck all i hear you cry) Ange is clearly a decent fella so probably gets more patience than a Mourinho for example. Think you need to give him next season at the very least to see if he is any good. The gung-ho style of play seems pretty one dimensional and short-term though and I think for you lot to win the big trophies (or at least compete) there does need to be an element of caution and common sense applied to in-game tactics especially when playing the better teams.
I think a lot of the 'Ange suicidal tactics' stuff is overplayed tbh. Yeah the Chelsea game was madness but it's pretty clear the players lost their heads. Yeah he could've told them to camp on the edge of our box but I doubt that wouldn't changed much really. Heads were gone. Then you also risk telling the players subconsciously, that when a game is going badly they just retreat. Then you've lost the battle and the war all in one go
We've seen since him bringing on an extra CB at the end of games. Regularly bringing on a midfielder for a forward in the last 20 minutes or so to keep the ball more.. yeah he's not going to change his philosophy but I don't see that he should. It's worked for him so far and we're doing pretty darn well considering losing Kane and everything.
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 2 hours, 58 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 0 seconds ago
Fortunately there are a lot of ‘fans like me’ that believe the true measure of success is the trophies in the cabinet, not the profits in the spreadsheet.
As I said, if they are going to run a brutal business, where loyalty is no longer rewarded with concessions as it limits profits, then we as customers should be able to demand a better product.
Gone are the days where I used to pay a fiver to watch and be grateful for the odd good player like anderton or sheringham. It’s now such a huge cost for a family to go, that you must get something for your money, or you have a right to complain.
People on here laughed when I said I could no longer afford to take my son, including you who pretty much called me a liar.
He’s now a Brighton fan. Because they offered us junior and key worker concessions and we went to a couple of games. That probably doesn’t mean much to the likes of you, but ultimately if there are hundreds of youngsters like my boy , then spurs miss out as a club and I miss out on a 70 year tradition of going to spurs with my family.
This is happening all around you. Yes it’s not just spurs but guess what? They are amongst the most expensive and stingy of all the clubs in Europe. I went to Germany a few years back and watched Bayern Munich for under 20 euros.
Football is more than just a business to me. I coach kids with learning difficulties and let me tell you, the joy they get from being in a welcoming team is life changing for them.
People like levy, Enic, sky etc have taken that away from lots of people like me. For that I will never, ever forgive them.
Levy is a fraud. He cares nothing about you. Nothing. He would sell his own mother if he got a decent price.
And what have we got for it? 1 trophy in 24 years. Oh and a nice big profit margin.
That’s not enough for me. So yes, if he’s gonna charge £70 to watch us play Crystal bloody palace, put match day tickets up by 20 per cent, cut concessions everywhere, put the most expensive season tickets up by an above inflation rise then tell us all how we are now the most profitable sports organisation this side of the Atlantic, then I am not going to let him plead poverty when it comes to transfers.
Ultimately Tottenham Hotspur must be one of the most underperforming clubs football wise amongst the top teams in every league in the world. What other club turns over so much profit but has won so so little?
None. No one. Just spurs under Enic.
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Just to add, on reflection, I probably could afford to go to spurs still. If I cut the family holiday or bought less for the kids at Christmas. I think it’s more that I’ve hit the limit of what I think it’s worth. I simply do not feel I should have to do those things to watch my football club.
I’ve hit it now, others will hit it soon.
The stadium will be full of fans singing about profit margins rather than trophies!
“Champions of finance, you’ll never sing that”
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I get what you are saying and appreciate the difficulties that many will face when football has become so expensive.
It speaks volumes that away tickets have been capped at £30 when it wasnt long ago few tickets cost more than £30.
Football has changed. What we grew up with is gone and people just have to adapt. I earn decent money but i still target games which are affordable to take my kids to. The cup games (£50 for the family), I got West Ham tickets which were £110 for me and my 2 boys, and it is more of an occassional treat than something i could afford to do every week, especially as its 150m round trip. But just getting hold of tickets is bloody difficult, which speaks to the massive demand at Spurs.
What frustrates me is people simply blame everything on the ownership. I agree that the way they run the club is impersonal and what felt like a family club now feels like a corporation. They have failed there absolutely!
But what that corporate approach has delivered is amazing facilities and one of the strongest financial foundations in the league
People don't care about profits, they wont sing about profits but they will want Spurs to compete and spend big money and to do so, they need to earn big money.
While we may have one trophy in the last 20 years, to a lot of fans, and especially match going fans, football is about more than simply trophies. Everyone agrees it is simply not good enough for this club, no one is casually accepting failure, but for some the expectation is tempered because football is a way of life.
The fact you teach kids says it all really, Football is something to enjoy, to feel a part of, to bring emotion into your life, to feel part of something, to share with others, it's not just about trophies. We all love it, we would all play for free, we can't walk past a goal in a park and not kick a ball into it, or screw up a piece of paper at work and not try and volley it into the waste paper bin.
This ownership have not done everything right but in many respects they have just gone with the flow.
A club like BHA might be a truly family club, but they will never ever achieve what Spurs have and can. They will remain a nice club, dependent on making money of well sourced buys and hoping to make top half. If this was Spurs, acting all nice and friendly in our 36k WHL relic stadium, the ownership would be getting abuse for this too.
Football is cut throat at the very top. Huge business run by billionaire owners and investment companies. We will never see ticket prices drop, at any club. You will not get the personal family friendly touch in a 65k seater stadium which cost £1bn to build.
Much of what people have anger with would be more accurately directed at how football has changed, not how our owners behave. They are not perfect have and continue to make mistakes and poor decisions. But we are now in a position where we are extremely well placed financially to be able to compete. We have seen much increased spending on transfers and now that the coach and backroom staff seem to be good appointments, we are seeing that money being better spent and the football being far more entertaining with clear potential to get better and better.
That comes at a cost and sadly a cost for some which is too much to afford. Whether we become successful remains to be seen but we are at least in a financial place now where that possibility is realistic. If trophies truly are you only measure then this financial position should please you because it is the only way we stand any chance of success anytime soon.
Vicario, Porro, Romero, van de Ven, Udogie, Bissouma, Sarr, Kulusevski, Maddison, Johnson, Son.
This has the starting 11 from now on if all fit. This team nucleus has the perfect balance. It's basically the first eleven that went 10 games unbeaten (eight wins, 2 draws) until the Chelsea debacle.
It doesn't surprise me that last Sunday was the first time they all lined up together since the Chelsea game. Critical game, four-goal win, clean sheet.
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posted on 12/3/24
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 6 minutes ago
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/68499071
So ticket prices AREN’T going up by 6%?
Honestly, who to believe?
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no they are.
But the reduction of the over 65s concession is like an additional 5% increase each year to those who currently get 50% off their ticket price. In 5 years time it will only be a 25% concession.
Dont worry, none of the price increases impact on you
posted on 12/3/24
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 1 hour, 36 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 13 seconds ago
For the record, I don’t doubt Ange at all. He’s won trophies everywhere he’s been and, like almost all of the managers and players that have left us before, he will win more wherever he goes next.
Ange isn’t the problem mate π
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Well quite.
Weird that this lot STILL don’t get it.
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Most do mate. Just a few posters on here that are happy with no trophies. Satisfied with financial gain even though none of it has transferred to the pitch.
I was priced out of spurs last season, my dad will be now levy us getting rid of senior concessions. One d 1ck head on here actually said they were GLAD about that. So I give absolutely no credence to anything that a crettin like that would say.
The club can’t have it both ways. If they want to treat us like customers, we have a right to demand a first class product.
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Priced out last season??? Ticket prices haven't changed since 2020/21 and even then it was a 1.5% increase (that's about £15 for the average ST), so i am not buying this from you at all.
For me life's about choices and priorities and some just expect to be able to do everything they want.
Recent inflation has meant thing like going to the pub, going out for a meal, taking a flight somewhere or booking any kind of holiday has got a lot more expensive. I don't know what job you do but no doubt your pay has gone up and more is being charged for your services.
I do not know why fans think Spurs or football should be immune from such pressures and should act as a charity to their loyal supporters. I am a loyal customer at my local pub, but they raised the price of beer and i still pay as much as some random one time customer.
I do consider the concession change to be unnecessary, although it is a gradual thing, reduced from 50% to 25% over 5 years (5% a season), so realistically their STs are going up by another £50 a year, or £2.50 per game. A poor choice for me as although its not a massive additional cost per game, it wont raise much money either, so politically probably unwise.
It will probably reflect the demographic of the club and they can probably predict based on the age of current STH that in 5 years time, there will be a lot more concessions and revenues will be falling, despite sell outs. If it had been offset with a reduction or freeze on youth tickets and season tickets then it would have been more palatable and building our fans base of the future.
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I hear what you’re saying. I too feel the OAP concessions reductions distasteful. And like you said if the demographics are changing, the way to improve this is to offer reductions for children to ensure future revenues and ticket sales. Increase the middle chunk of ST pricing which is likely to rise the most money and offset both concessions to the point where they are negligible
posted on 12/3/24
its a problem of their own making
Expensive STs makes it more likely that the bulk who can afford them will be professional working men and that group, as they get older, will fall into the concession category and become the dominant make up of a crowd.
This should have been envisaged and a much more youth and family based ticket structure should have been in place from day 1 of the new stadium. They took a pretty short term view and now are having to cope with the fall out.
posted on 12/3/24
Pricing in the Prem in general is stupid, I cannot stand the £30 away game cap as you just can’t get away tickets anymore - not because more kids or lower income families get to go, that I wouldn’t mind, no it’s because £30 is fine for those who just want to constantly top up loyalty points - then flog the tickets on to others, so effectively getting the points for free.
Then you have the issue that the away fans are watching the same game as the home fans for half the price if not more.
I don’t understand why the Premier league can impose caps on away tickets but not home tickets?
posted on 12/3/24
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 1 hour, 36 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 13 seconds ago
For the record, I don’t doubt Ange at all. He’s won trophies everywhere he’s been and, like almost all of the managers and players that have left us before, he will win more wherever he goes next.
Ange isn’t the problem mate π
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Well quite.
Weird that this lot STILL don’t get it.
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Most do mate. Just a few posters on here that are happy with no trophies. Satisfied with financial gain even though none of it has transferred to the pitch.
I was priced out of spurs last season, my dad will be now levy us getting rid of senior concessions. One d 1ck head on here actually said they were GLAD about that. So I give absolutely no credence to anything that a crettin like that would say.
The club can’t have it both ways. If they want to treat us like customers, we have a right to demand a first class product.
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Priced out last season??? Ticket prices haven't changed since 2020/21 and even then it was a 1.5% increase (that's about £15 for the average ST), so i am not buying this from you at all.
For me life's about choices and priorities and some just expect to be able to do everything they want.
Recent inflation has meant thing like going to the pub, going out for a meal, taking a flight somewhere or booking any kind of holiday has got a lot more expensive. I don't know what job you do but no doubt your pay has gone up and more is being charged for your services.
I do not know why fans think Spurs or football should be immune from such pressures and should act as a charity to their loyal supporters. I am a loyal customer at my local pub, but they raised the price of beer and i still pay as much as some random one time customer.
I do consider the concession change to be unnecessary, although it is a gradual thing, reduced from 50% to 25% over 5 years (5% a season), so realistically their STs are going up by another £50 a year, or £2.50 per game. A poor choice for me as although its not a massive additional cost per game, it wont raise much money either, so politically probably unwise.
It will probably reflect the demographic of the club and they can probably predict based on the age of current STH that in 5 years time, there will be a lot more concessions and revenues will be falling, despite sell outs. If it had been offset with a reduction or freeze on youth tickets and season tickets then it would have been more palatable and building our fans base of the future.
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Not sure you noticed the 20 percent hike in match day tickets then or the reduction in juniour concessions. Must have just been the other hundred thousand spurs fans
posted on 12/3/24
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 17 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 1 hour, 36 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 13 seconds ago
For the record, I don’t doubt Ange at all. He’s won trophies everywhere he’s been and, like almost all of the managers and players that have left us before, he will win more wherever he goes next.
Ange isn’t the problem mate π
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Well quite.
Weird that this lot STILL don’t get it.
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Most do mate. Just a few posters on here that are happy with no trophies. Satisfied with financial gain even though none of it has transferred to the pitch.
I was priced out of spurs last season, my dad will be now levy us getting rid of senior concessions. One d 1ck head on here actually said they were GLAD about that. So I give absolutely no credence to anything that a crettin like that would say.
The club can’t have it both ways. If they want to treat us like customers, we have a right to demand a first class product.
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Priced out last season??? Ticket prices haven't changed since 2020/21 and even then it was a 1.5% increase (that's about £15 for the average ST), so i am not buying this from you at all.
For me life's about choices and priorities and some just expect to be able to do everything they want.
Recent inflation has meant thing like going to the pub, going out for a meal, taking a flight somewhere or booking any kind of holiday has got a lot more expensive. I don't know what job you do but no doubt your pay has gone up and more is being charged for your services.
I do not know why fans think Spurs or football should be immune from such pressures and should act as a charity to their loyal supporters. I am a loyal customer at my local pub, but they raised the price of beer and i still pay as much as some random one time customer.
I do consider the concession change to be unnecessary, although it is a gradual thing, reduced from 50% to 25% over 5 years (5% a season), so realistically their STs are going up by another £50 a year, or £2.50 per game. A poor choice for me as although its not a massive additional cost per game, it wont raise much money either, so politically probably unwise.
It will probably reflect the demographic of the club and they can probably predict based on the age of current STH that in 5 years time, there will be a lot more concessions and revenues will be falling, despite sell outs. If it had been offset with a reduction or freeze on youth tickets and season tickets then it would have been more palatable and building our fans base of the future.
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I’m a firefighter and I had a ten year pay freeze and then five below inflation pay rises. I’m down twenty percent on where I would have been if the Tories weren’t in power. ( about 9 grand a year)
The club has maximised and added new profit streams from revenues such as concerts, nfl, go karting, climb the stadium, boxing etc etc. why couldn’t they offset the rising match day costs from there? And why 6 %? Inflation is way below that.
Why cut senior concessions?
Why announce all this in a gap of four weeks between home games? Is it because they know it’s lower than a snakes belly?
Nothing I have said is wrong mate. If the price rises don’t get you, then lucky you. My family have been going to spurs for 70 years. That , in all likelihood will have been stopped by Enics greed and profiteering. I’m not the only loyal fan in this position.
What have you got to show for it? 1 trophy in 24 years.
I’m glad you’re happy with it all mate. Good for you. Unfortunately it’s a different reality for some of us π
posted on 12/3/24
The quality of the squad, still needs improvement…if we are going to be competing in Europe & all the domestic titles/cups….then we need 22 players, who can push each, in their respective positions.
I’m talking about the likes of Royal, Davies, Skipp etc… who weaken the team, when they play…,
We are not far off, squad wise, where we need to be…
posted on 12/3/24
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 17 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 1 hour, 36 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 13 seconds ago
For the record, I don’t doubt Ange at all. He’s won trophies everywhere he’s been and, like almost all of the managers and players that have left us before, he will win more wherever he goes next.
Ange isn’t the problem mate π
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Well quite.
Weird that this lot STILL don’t get it.
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Most do mate. Just a few posters on here that are happy with no trophies. Satisfied with financial gain even though none of it has transferred to the pitch.
I was priced out of spurs last season, my dad will be now levy us getting rid of senior concessions. One d 1ck head on here actually said they were GLAD about that. So I give absolutely no credence to anything that a crettin like that would say.
The club can’t have it both ways. If they want to treat us like customers, we have a right to demand a first class product.
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Priced out last season??? Ticket prices haven't changed since 2020/21 and even then it was a 1.5% increase (that's about £15 for the average ST), so i am not buying this from you at all.
For me life's about choices and priorities and some just expect to be able to do everything they want.
Recent inflation has meant thing like going to the pub, going out for a meal, taking a flight somewhere or booking any kind of holiday has got a lot more expensive. I don't know what job you do but no doubt your pay has gone up and more is being charged for your services.
I do not know why fans think Spurs or football should be immune from such pressures and should act as a charity to their loyal supporters. I am a loyal customer at my local pub, but they raised the price of beer and i still pay as much as some random one time customer.
I do consider the concession change to be unnecessary, although it is a gradual thing, reduced from 50% to 25% over 5 years (5% a season), so realistically their STs are going up by another £50 a year, or £2.50 per game. A poor choice for me as although its not a massive additional cost per game, it wont raise much money either, so politically probably unwise.
It will probably reflect the demographic of the club and they can probably predict based on the age of current STH that in 5 years time, there will be a lot more concessions and revenues will be falling, despite sell outs. If it had been offset with a reduction or freeze on youth tickets and season tickets then it would have been more palatable and building our fans base of the future.
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I’m a firefighter and I had a ten year pay freeze and then five below inflation pay rises. I’m down twenty percent on where I would have been if the Tories weren’t in power. ( about 9 grand a year)
The club has maximised and added new profit streams from revenues such as concerts, nfl, go karting, climb the stadium, boxing etc etc. why couldn’t they offset the rising match day costs from there? And why 6 %? Inflation is way below that.
Why cut senior concessions?
Why announce all this in a gap of four weeks between home games? Is it because they know it’s lower than a snakes belly?
Nothing I have said is wrong mate. If the price rises don’t get you, then lucky you. My family have been going to spurs for 70 years. That , in all likelihood will have been stopped by Enics greed and profiteering. I’m not the only loyal fan in this position.
What have you got to show for it? 1 trophy in 24 years.
I’m glad you’re happy with it all mate. Good for you. Unfortunately it’s a different reality for some of us π
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It will all change when Starmer gets in, not
posted on 12/3/24
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 17 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 1 hour, 36 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 13 seconds ago
For the record, I don’t doubt Ange at all. He’s won trophies everywhere he’s been and, like almost all of the managers and players that have left us before, he will win more wherever he goes next.
Ange isn’t the problem mate π
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Well quite.
Weird that this lot STILL don’t get it.
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Most do mate. Just a few posters on here that are happy with no trophies. Satisfied with financial gain even though none of it has transferred to the pitch.
I was priced out of spurs last season, my dad will be now levy us getting rid of senior concessions. One d 1ck head on here actually said they were GLAD about that. So I give absolutely no credence to anything that a crettin like that would say.
The club can’t have it both ways. If they want to treat us like customers, we have a right to demand a first class product.
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Priced out last season??? Ticket prices haven't changed since 2020/21 and even then it was a 1.5% increase (that's about £15 for the average ST), so i am not buying this from you at all.
For me life's about choices and priorities and some just expect to be able to do everything they want.
Recent inflation has meant thing like going to the pub, going out for a meal, taking a flight somewhere or booking any kind of holiday has got a lot more expensive. I don't know what job you do but no doubt your pay has gone up and more is being charged for your services.
I do not know why fans think Spurs or football should be immune from such pressures and should act as a charity to their loyal supporters. I am a loyal customer at my local pub, but they raised the price of beer and i still pay as much as some random one time customer.
I do consider the concession change to be unnecessary, although it is a gradual thing, reduced from 50% to 25% over 5 years (5% a season), so realistically their STs are going up by another £50 a year, or £2.50 per game. A poor choice for me as although its not a massive additional cost per game, it wont raise much money either, so politically probably unwise.
It will probably reflect the demographic of the club and they can probably predict based on the age of current STH that in 5 years time, there will be a lot more concessions and revenues will be falling, despite sell outs. If it had been offset with a reduction or freeze on youth tickets and season tickets then it would have been more palatable and building our fans base of the future.
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I’m a firefighter and I had a ten year pay freeze and then five below inflation pay rises. I’m down twenty percent on where I would have been if the Tories weren’t in power. ( about 9 grand a year)
The club has maximised and added new profit streams from revenues such as concerts, nfl, go karting, climb the stadium, boxing etc etc. why couldn’t they offset the rising match day costs from there? And why 6 %? Inflation is way below that.
Why cut senior concessions?
Why announce all this in a gap of four weeks between home games? Is it because they know it’s lower than a snakes belly?
Nothing I have said is wrong mate. If the price rises don’t get you, then lucky you. My family have been going to spurs for 70 years. That , in all likelihood will have been stopped by Enics greed and profiteering. I’m not the only loyal fan in this position.
What have you got to show for it? 1 trophy in 24 years.
I’m glad you’re happy with it all mate. Good for you. Unfortunately it’s a different reality for some of us π
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There is a whole load clubs could do to make it more affordable for locals, key workers like yourself and the under privileged but they don't and in fact very few clubs do.
This is not a Spurs problem it is a football problem and more acutely a London problem.
I do not think that other uses of the stadium should be subsidising the football. This has been built to give us financial advantage, not to make it cheaper for fans.
But I do think the club could be more creative with their pricing to better ensure equality and even subsidising of certain types of fan. The pricing is very rigid and there should be more sub categories of fans who can benefit from concessions.
If the club announced for example an 8% increase for certain ST holders but explained that this is necessary but also higher than it could be so to afford better concessions for kids/OAPs/Key workers etc, then it becomes a lot harder to be critical.
Of course the 6% is needed otherwise our revenues decrease, against a backdrop of inflation of about 16% since the last ST price rise., but they need to start doing some more good, while those who can better afford it foot the bill.
All of this against a back drop of fans like you demanding success and spending by the club
posted on 12/3/24
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 17 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 1 hour, 36 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 13 seconds ago
For the record, I don’t doubt Ange at all. He’s won trophies everywhere he’s been and, like almost all of the managers and players that have left us before, he will win more wherever he goes next.
Ange isn’t the problem mate π
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Well quite.
Weird that this lot STILL don’t get it.
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Most do mate. Just a few posters on here that are happy with no trophies. Satisfied with financial gain even though none of it has transferred to the pitch.
I was priced out of spurs last season, my dad will be now levy us getting rid of senior concessions. One d 1ck head on here actually said they were GLAD about that. So I give absolutely no credence to anything that a crettin like that would say.
The club can’t have it both ways. If they want to treat us like customers, we have a right to demand a first class product.
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Priced out last season??? Ticket prices haven't changed since 2020/21 and even then it was a 1.5% increase (that's about £15 for the average ST), so i am not buying this from you at all.
For me life's about choices and priorities and some just expect to be able to do everything they want.
Recent inflation has meant thing like going to the pub, going out for a meal, taking a flight somewhere or booking any kind of holiday has got a lot more expensive. I don't know what job you do but no doubt your pay has gone up and more is being charged for your services.
I do not know why fans think Spurs or football should be immune from such pressures and should act as a charity to their loyal supporters. I am a loyal customer at my local pub, but they raised the price of beer and i still pay as much as some random one time customer.
I do consider the concession change to be unnecessary, although it is a gradual thing, reduced from 50% to 25% over 5 years (5% a season), so realistically their STs are going up by another £50 a year, or £2.50 per game. A poor choice for me as although its not a massive additional cost per game, it wont raise much money either, so politically probably unwise.
It will probably reflect the demographic of the club and they can probably predict based on the age of current STH that in 5 years time, there will be a lot more concessions and revenues will be falling, despite sell outs. If it had been offset with a reduction or freeze on youth tickets and season tickets then it would have been more palatable and building our fans base of the future.
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I’m a firefighter and I had a ten year pay freeze and then five below inflation pay rises. I’m down twenty percent on where I would have been if the Tories weren’t in power. ( about 9 grand a year)
The club has maximised and added new profit streams from revenues such as concerts, nfl, go karting, climb the stadium, boxing etc etc. why couldn’t they offset the rising match day costs from there? And why 6 %? Inflation is way below that.
Why cut senior concessions?
Why announce all this in a gap of four weeks between home games? Is it because they know it’s lower than a snakes belly?
Nothing I have said is wrong mate. If the price rises don’t get you, then lucky you. My family have been going to spurs for 70 years. That , in all likelihood will have been stopped by Enics greed and profiteering. I’m not the only loyal fan in this position.
What have you got to show for it? 1 trophy in 24 years.
I’m glad you’re happy with it all mate. Good for you. Unfortunately it’s a different reality for some of us π
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There is a whole load clubs could do to make it more affordable for locals, key workers like yourself and the under privileged but they don't and in fact very few clubs do.
This is not a Spurs problem it is a football problem and more acutely a London problem.
I do not think that other uses of the stadium should be subsidising the football. This has been built to give us financial advantage, not to make it cheaper for fans.
But I do think the club could be more creative with their pricing to better ensure equality and even subsidising of certain types of fan. The pricing is very rigid and there should be more sub categories of fans who can benefit from concessions.
If the club announced for example an 8% increase for certain ST holders but explained that this is necessary but also higher than it could be so to afford better concessions for kids/OAPs/Key workers etc, then it becomes a lot harder to be critical.
Of course the 6% is needed otherwise our revenues decrease, against a backdrop of inflation of about 16% since the last ST price rise., but they need to start doing some more good, while those who can better afford it foot the bill.
All of this against a back drop of fans like you demanding success and spending by the club
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Well our demands for success have been in vain clearly.
posted on 12/3/24
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 17 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 1 hour, 36 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 13 seconds ago
For the record, I don’t doubt Ange at all. He’s won trophies everywhere he’s been and, like almost all of the managers and players that have left us before, he will win more wherever he goes next.
Ange isn’t the problem mate π
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Well quite.
Weird that this lot STILL don’t get it.
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Most do mate. Just a few posters on here that are happy with no trophies. Satisfied with financial gain even though none of it has transferred to the pitch.
I was priced out of spurs last season, my dad will be now levy us getting rid of senior concessions. One d 1ck head on here actually said they were GLAD about that. So I give absolutely no credence to anything that a crettin like that would say.
The club can’t have it both ways. If they want to treat us like customers, we have a right to demand a first class product.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Priced out last season??? Ticket prices haven't changed since 2020/21 and even then it was a 1.5% increase (that's about £15 for the average ST), so i am not buying this from you at all.
For me life's about choices and priorities and some just expect to be able to do everything they want.
Recent inflation has meant thing like going to the pub, going out for a meal, taking a flight somewhere or booking any kind of holiday has got a lot more expensive. I don't know what job you do but no doubt your pay has gone up and more is being charged for your services.
I do not know why fans think Spurs or football should be immune from such pressures and should act as a charity to their loyal supporters. I am a loyal customer at my local pub, but they raised the price of beer and i still pay as much as some random one time customer.
I do consider the concession change to be unnecessary, although it is a gradual thing, reduced from 50% to 25% over 5 years (5% a season), so realistically their STs are going up by another £50 a year, or £2.50 per game. A poor choice for me as although its not a massive additional cost per game, it wont raise much money either, so politically probably unwise.
It will probably reflect the demographic of the club and they can probably predict based on the age of current STH that in 5 years time, there will be a lot more concessions and revenues will be falling, despite sell outs. If it had been offset with a reduction or freeze on youth tickets and season tickets then it would have been more palatable and building our fans base of the future.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I’m a firefighter and I had a ten year pay freeze and then five below inflation pay rises. I’m down twenty percent on where I would have been if the Tories weren’t in power. ( about 9 grand a year)
The club has maximised and added new profit streams from revenues such as concerts, nfl, go karting, climb the stadium, boxing etc etc. why couldn’t they offset the rising match day costs from there? And why 6 %? Inflation is way below that.
Why cut senior concessions?
Why announce all this in a gap of four weeks between home games? Is it because they know it’s lower than a snakes belly?
Nothing I have said is wrong mate. If the price rises don’t get you, then lucky you. My family have been going to spurs for 70 years. That , in all likelihood will have been stopped by Enics greed and profiteering. I’m not the only loyal fan in this position.
What have you got to show for it? 1 trophy in 24 years.
I’m glad you’re happy with it all mate. Good for you. Unfortunately it’s a different reality for some of us π
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There is a whole load clubs could do to make it more affordable for locals, key workers like yourself and the under privileged but they don't and in fact very few clubs do.
This is not a Spurs problem it is a football problem and more acutely a London problem.
I do not think that other uses of the stadium should be subsidising the football. This has been built to give us financial advantage, not to make it cheaper for fans.
But I do think the club could be more creative with their pricing to better ensure equality and even subsidising of certain types of fan. The pricing is very rigid and there should be more sub categories of fans who can benefit from concessions.
If the club announced for example an 8% increase for certain ST holders but explained that this is necessary but also higher than it could be so to afford better concessions for kids/OAPs/Key workers etc, then it becomes a lot harder to be critical.
Of course the 6% is needed otherwise our revenues decrease, against a backdrop of inflation of about 16% since the last ST price rise., but they need to start doing some more good, while those who can better afford it foot the bill.
All of this against a back drop of fans like you demanding success and spending by the club
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Well our demands for success have been in vain clearly.
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Well you want Levy out because he's a cheapsake and that has held us back, but then in the same breath you want him out because he's rinsing the fans .
You'd have a point if the club were trousering massive profits/dividends, but they aint. It all goes back into the club
posted on 12/3/24
If you say so.
posted on 12/3/24
No. I don't say so, it's a fact. Which you choose to ignore.
posted on 12/3/24
Right, so Daniel and the board are just doing all this out of the goodness of the hearts?
Amazing, aren’t we lucky.
posted on 12/3/24
Fortunately there are a lot of ‘fans like me’ that believe the true measure of success is the trophies in the cabinet, not the profits in the spreadsheet.
As I said, if they are going to run a brutal business, where loyalty is no longer rewarded with concessions as it limits profits, then we as customers should be able to demand a better product.
Gone are the days where I used to pay a fiver to watch and be grateful for the odd good player like anderton or sheringham. It’s now such a huge cost for a family to go, that you must get something for your money, or you have a right to complain.
People on here laughed when I said I could no longer afford to take my son, including you who pretty much called me a liar.
He’s now a Brighton fan. Because they offered us junior and key worker concessions and we went to a couple of games. That probably doesn’t mean much to the likes of you, but ultimately if there are hundreds of youngsters like my boy , then spurs miss out as a club and I miss out on a 70 year tradition of going to spurs with my family.
This is happening all around you. Yes it’s not just spurs but guess what? They are amongst the most expensive and stingy of all the clubs in Europe. I went to Germany a few years back and watched Bayern Munich for under 20 euros.
Football is more than just a business to me. I coach kids with learning difficulties and let me tell you, the joy they get from being in a welcoming team is life changing for them.
People like levy, Enic, sky etc have taken that away from lots of people like me. For that I will never, ever forgive them.
Levy is a fraud. He cares nothing about you. Nothing. He would sell his own mother if he got a decent price.
And what have we got for it? 1 trophy in 24 years. Oh and a nice big profit margin.
That’s not enough for me. So yes, if he’s gonna charge £70 to watch us play Crystal bloody palace, put match day tickets up by 20 per cent, cut concessions everywhere, put the most expensive season tickets up by an above inflation rise then tell us all how we are now the most profitable sports organisation this side of the Atlantic, then I am not going to let him plead poverty when it comes to transfers.
Ultimately Tottenham Hotspur must be one of the most underperforming clubs football wise amongst the top teams in every league in the world. What other club turns over so much profit but has won so so little?
None. No one. Just spurs under Enic.
posted on 12/3/24
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 3 minutes ago
Fortunately there are a lot of ‘fans like me’ that believe the true measure of success is the trophies in the cabinet, not the profits in the spreadsheet.
As I said, if they are going to run a brutal business, where loyalty is no longer rewarded with concessions as it limits profits, then we as customers should be able to demand a better product.
Gone are the days where I used to pay a fiver to watch and be grateful for the odd good player like anderton or sheringham. It’s now such a huge cost for a family to go, that you must get something for your money, or you have a right to complain.
People on here laughed when I said I could no longer afford to take my son, including you who pretty much called me a liar.
He’s now a Brighton fan. Because they offered us junior and key worker concessions and we went to a couple of games. That probably doesn’t mean much to the likes of you, but ultimately if there are hundreds of youngsters like my boy , then spurs miss out as a club and I miss out on a 70 year tradition of going to spurs with my family.
This is happening all around you. Yes it’s not just spurs but guess what? They are amongst the most expensive and stingy of all the clubs in Europe. I went to Germany a few years back and watched Bayern Munich for under 20 euros.
Football is more than just a business to me. I coach kids with learning difficulties and let me tell you, the joy they get from being in a welcoming team is life changing for them.
People like levy, Enic, sky etc have taken that away from lots of people like me. For that I will never, ever forgive them.
Levy is a fraud. He cares nothing about you. Nothing. He would sell his own mother if he got a decent price.
And what have we got for it? 1 trophy in 24 years. Oh and a nice big profit margin.
That’s not enough for me. So yes, if he’s gonna charge £70 to watch us play Crystal bloody palace, put match day tickets up by 20 per cent, cut concessions everywhere, put the most expensive season tickets up by an above inflation rise then tell us all how we are now the most profitable sports organisation this side of the Atlantic, then I am not going to let him plead poverty when it comes to transfers.
Ultimately Tottenham Hotspur must be one of the most underperforming clubs football wise amongst the top teams in every league in the world. What other club turns over so much profit but has won so so little?
None. No one. Just spurs under Enic.
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posted on 12/3/24
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 0 seconds ago
Fortunately there are a lot of ‘fans like me’ that believe the true measure of success is the trophies in the cabinet, not the profits in the spreadsheet.
As I said, if they are going to run a brutal business, where loyalty is no longer rewarded with concessions as it limits profits, then we as customers should be able to demand a better product.
Gone are the days where I used to pay a fiver to watch and be grateful for the odd good player like anderton or sheringham. It’s now such a huge cost for a family to go, that you must get something for your money, or you have a right to complain.
People on here laughed when I said I could no longer afford to take my son, including you who pretty much called me a liar.
He’s now a Brighton fan. Because they offered us junior and key worker concessions and we went to a couple of games. That probably doesn’t mean much to the likes of you, but ultimately if there are hundreds of youngsters like my boy , then spurs miss out as a club and I miss out on a 70 year tradition of going to spurs with my family.
This is happening all around you. Yes it’s not just spurs but guess what? They are amongst the most expensive and stingy of all the clubs in Europe. I went to Germany a few years back and watched Bayern Munich for under 20 euros.
Football is more than just a business to me. I coach kids with learning difficulties and let me tell you, the joy they get from being in a welcoming team is life changing for them.
People like levy, Enic, sky etc have taken that away from lots of people like me. For that I will never, ever forgive them.
Levy is a fraud. He cares nothing about you. Nothing. He would sell his own mother if he got a decent price.
And what have we got for it? 1 trophy in 24 years. Oh and a nice big profit margin.
That’s not enough for me. So yes, if he’s gonna charge £70 to watch us play Crystal bloody palace, put match day tickets up by 20 per cent, cut concessions everywhere, put the most expensive season tickets up by an above inflation rise then tell us all how we are now the most profitable sports organisation this side of the Atlantic, then I am not going to let him plead poverty when it comes to transfers.
Ultimately Tottenham Hotspur must be one of the most underperforming clubs football wise amongst the top teams in every league in the world. What other club turns over so much profit but has won so so little?
None. No one. Just spurs under Enic.
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Just to add, on reflection, I probably could afford to go to spurs still. If I cut the family holiday or bought less for the kids at Christmas. I think it’s more that I’ve hit the limit of what I think it’s worth. I simply do not feel I should have to do those things to watch my football club.
I’ve hit it now, others will hit it soon.
The stadium will be full of fans singing about profit margins rather than trophies!
“Champions of finance, you’ll never sing that”
posted on 12/3/24
I agree that prices for season tickets for most PL clubs are extortionate, along with the price of kits and merchandise etc. That's precisely why I nearly gave up my season ticket last year. I was paying good money to watch absolute dross.
The good news is that the football under Ange is very exciting to watch and the results have improved significantly too, so that softens the blow.
Despite the high prices, the stadium is always full (or practically full) and the atmosphere is great.
The more interest there is in tickets, the more the prices will increase, that is the unfortunate reality of market forces. It's just like airlines substantially increasing prices during school holidays because of the increased demand.
One day the bubble might burst, but for now clubs are milking fans for all they can - ALL clubs, not just Spurs
posted on 12/3/24
comment by Dave&Danny (U4428)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 17 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 1 hour, 36 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 13 seconds ago
For the record, I don’t doubt Ange at all. He’s won trophies everywhere he’s been and, like almost all of the managers and players that have left us before, he will win more wherever he goes next.
Ange isn’t the problem mate π
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Well quite.
Weird that this lot STILL don’t get it.
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Most do mate. Just a few posters on here that are happy with no trophies. Satisfied with financial gain even though none of it has transferred to the pitch.
I was priced out of spurs last season, my dad will be now levy us getting rid of senior concessions. One d 1ck head on here actually said they were GLAD about that. So I give absolutely no credence to anything that a crettin like that would say.
The club can’t have it both ways. If they want to treat us like customers, we have a right to demand a first class product.
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Priced out last season??? Ticket prices haven't changed since 2020/21 and even then it was a 1.5% increase (that's about £15 for the average ST), so i am not buying this from you at all.
For me life's about choices and priorities and some just expect to be able to do everything they want.
Recent inflation has meant thing like going to the pub, going out for a meal, taking a flight somewhere or booking any kind of holiday has got a lot more expensive. I don't know what job you do but no doubt your pay has gone up and more is being charged for your services.
I do not know why fans think Spurs or football should be immune from such pressures and should act as a charity to their loyal supporters. I am a loyal customer at my local pub, but they raised the price of beer and i still pay as much as some random one time customer.
I do consider the concession change to be unnecessary, although it is a gradual thing, reduced from 50% to 25% over 5 years (5% a season), so realistically their STs are going up by another £50 a year, or £2.50 per game. A poor choice for me as although its not a massive additional cost per game, it wont raise much money either, so politically probably unwise.
It will probably reflect the demographic of the club and they can probably predict based on the age of current STH that in 5 years time, there will be a lot more concessions and revenues will be falling, despite sell outs. If it had been offset with a reduction or freeze on youth tickets and season tickets then it would have been more palatable and building our fans base of the future.
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I’m a firefighter and I had a ten year pay freeze and then five below inflation pay rises. I’m down twenty percent on where I would have been if the Tories weren’t in power. ( about 9 grand a year)
The club has maximised and added new profit streams from revenues such as concerts, nfl, go karting, climb the stadium, boxing etc etc. why couldn’t they offset the rising match day costs from there? And why 6 %? Inflation is way below that.
Why cut senior concessions?
Why announce all this in a gap of four weeks between home games? Is it because they know it’s lower than a snakes belly?
Nothing I have said is wrong mate. If the price rises don’t get you, then lucky you. My family have been going to spurs for 70 years. That , in all likelihood will have been stopped by Enics greed and profiteering. I’m not the only loyal fan in this position.
What have you got to show for it? 1 trophy in 24 years.
I’m glad you’re happy with it all mate. Good for you. Unfortunately it’s a different reality for some of us π
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It will all change when Starmer gets in, not
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I’m no big fan of Starmer but from a public service point of view, I simply do not believe he can be worse.
posted on 12/3/24
comment by Gezza-Spurs (U18952)
posted 10 seconds ago
I agree that prices for season tickets for most PL clubs are extortionate, along with the price of kits and merchandise etc. That's precisely why I nearly gave up my season ticket last year. I was paying good money to watch absolute dross.
The good news is that the football under Ange is very exciting to watch and the results have improved significantly too, so that softens the blow.
Despite the high prices, the stadium is always full (or practically full) and the atmosphere is great.
The more interest there is in tickets, the more the prices will increase, that is the unfortunate reality of market forces. It's just like airlines substantially increasing prices during school holidays because of the increased demand.
One day the bubble might burst, but for now clubs are milking fans for all they can - ALL clubs, not just Spurs
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Very true on all points.
I still maintain spurs are amongst the worst. Highest prices around and still raising above inflation whilst cutting senior concessions. They’ve already cut the percentage of junior concessions. TWENTY PERCENT match day ticket prices last year. TWENTY PERCENT. It’s simply unjustifiable. It’s nothing but greed, profiteering from loyalty.
But the stadium is full so the prices will continue to go upwards
posted on 12/3/24
So now you have to go to matches to have any kind of opinion on Spurs?
Jesus feckin christ. Morons.
Luka seems to be the one pushing that agenda yet he's remarkably present on here for someone that attends matches regularly. It's surprising that you're not absorbed in the game you're watching live rather than persistently commenting on the match thread every minute. If I didn't know any better I'd say you were at home, watching a dodgy stream and not, as you tend to suggest, in the ground supporting the team.
posted on 12/3/24
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 7 minutes ago
So now you have to go to matches to have any kind of opinion on Spurs?
Jesus feckin christ. Morons.
Luka seems to be the one pushing that agenda yet he's remarkably present on here for someone that attends matches regularly. It's surprising that you're not absorbed in the game you're watching live rather than persistently commenting on the match thread every minute. If I didn't know any better I'd say you were at home, watching a dodgy stream and not, as you tend to suggest, in the ground supporting the team.
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It is idiotic to believe that you have to go to matches to have a valid opinion on your team of choice. For various reasons, financial, location, family commitments etc, not all fans can go to games but that doesn't make them any less of a fan.
I think it is just a way of winning an argument by just demeaning someone's opinion by stating they 'don't go' so their view is less informed or important. I get the same as i rarely go to away games as apparently only home and away fans are 'real supporters'
For what it is worth (feck all i hear you cry) Ange is clearly a decent fella so probably gets more patience than a Mourinho for example. Think you need to give him next season at the very least to see if he is any good. The gung-ho style of play seems pretty one dimensional and short-term though and I think for you lot to win the big trophies (or at least compete) there does need to be an element of caution and common sense applied to in-game tactics especially when playing the better teams.
posted on 12/3/24
I think a lot of the 'Ange suicidal tactics' stuff is overplayed tbh. Yeah the Chelsea game was madness but it's pretty clear the players lost their heads. Yeah he could've told them to camp on the edge of our box but I doubt that wouldn't changed much really. Heads were gone. Then you also risk telling the players subconsciously, that when a game is going badly they just retreat. Then you've lost the battle and the war all in one go
We've seen since him bringing on an extra CB at the end of games. Regularly bringing on a midfielder for a forward in the last 20 minutes or so to keep the ball more.. yeah he's not going to change his philosophy but I don't see that he should. It's worked for him so far and we're doing pretty darn well considering losing Kane and everything.
posted on 12/3/24
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 2 hours, 58 minutes ago
comment by Mack (U6574)
posted 0 seconds ago
Fortunately there are a lot of ‘fans like me’ that believe the true measure of success is the trophies in the cabinet, not the profits in the spreadsheet.
As I said, if they are going to run a brutal business, where loyalty is no longer rewarded with concessions as it limits profits, then we as customers should be able to demand a better product.
Gone are the days where I used to pay a fiver to watch and be grateful for the odd good player like anderton or sheringham. It’s now such a huge cost for a family to go, that you must get something for your money, or you have a right to complain.
People on here laughed when I said I could no longer afford to take my son, including you who pretty much called me a liar.
He’s now a Brighton fan. Because they offered us junior and key worker concessions and we went to a couple of games. That probably doesn’t mean much to the likes of you, but ultimately if there are hundreds of youngsters like my boy , then spurs miss out as a club and I miss out on a 70 year tradition of going to spurs with my family.
This is happening all around you. Yes it’s not just spurs but guess what? They are amongst the most expensive and stingy of all the clubs in Europe. I went to Germany a few years back and watched Bayern Munich for under 20 euros.
Football is more than just a business to me. I coach kids with learning difficulties and let me tell you, the joy they get from being in a welcoming team is life changing for them.
People like levy, Enic, sky etc have taken that away from lots of people like me. For that I will never, ever forgive them.
Levy is a fraud. He cares nothing about you. Nothing. He would sell his own mother if he got a decent price.
And what have we got for it? 1 trophy in 24 years. Oh and a nice big profit margin.
That’s not enough for me. So yes, if he’s gonna charge £70 to watch us play Crystal bloody palace, put match day tickets up by 20 per cent, cut concessions everywhere, put the most expensive season tickets up by an above inflation rise then tell us all how we are now the most profitable sports organisation this side of the Atlantic, then I am not going to let him plead poverty when it comes to transfers.
Ultimately Tottenham Hotspur must be one of the most underperforming clubs football wise amongst the top teams in every league in the world. What other club turns over so much profit but has won so so little?
None. No one. Just spurs under Enic.
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Just to add, on reflection, I probably could afford to go to spurs still. If I cut the family holiday or bought less for the kids at Christmas. I think it’s more that I’ve hit the limit of what I think it’s worth. I simply do not feel I should have to do those things to watch my football club.
I’ve hit it now, others will hit it soon.
The stadium will be full of fans singing about profit margins rather than trophies!
“Champions of finance, you’ll never sing that”
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I get what you are saying and appreciate the difficulties that many will face when football has become so expensive.
It speaks volumes that away tickets have been capped at £30 when it wasnt long ago few tickets cost more than £30.
Football has changed. What we grew up with is gone and people just have to adapt. I earn decent money but i still target games which are affordable to take my kids to. The cup games (£50 for the family), I got West Ham tickets which were £110 for me and my 2 boys, and it is more of an occassional treat than something i could afford to do every week, especially as its 150m round trip. But just getting hold of tickets is bloody difficult, which speaks to the massive demand at Spurs.
What frustrates me is people simply blame everything on the ownership. I agree that the way they run the club is impersonal and what felt like a family club now feels like a corporation. They have failed there absolutely!
But what that corporate approach has delivered is amazing facilities and one of the strongest financial foundations in the league
People don't care about profits, they wont sing about profits but they will want Spurs to compete and spend big money and to do so, they need to earn big money.
While we may have one trophy in the last 20 years, to a lot of fans, and especially match going fans, football is about more than simply trophies. Everyone agrees it is simply not good enough for this club, no one is casually accepting failure, but for some the expectation is tempered because football is a way of life.
The fact you teach kids says it all really, Football is something to enjoy, to feel a part of, to bring emotion into your life, to feel part of something, to share with others, it's not just about trophies. We all love it, we would all play for free, we can't walk past a goal in a park and not kick a ball into it, or screw up a piece of paper at work and not try and volley it into the waste paper bin.
This ownership have not done everything right but in many respects they have just gone with the flow.
A club like BHA might be a truly family club, but they will never ever achieve what Spurs have and can. They will remain a nice club, dependent on making money of well sourced buys and hoping to make top half. If this was Spurs, acting all nice and friendly in our 36k WHL relic stadium, the ownership would be getting abuse for this too.
Football is cut throat at the very top. Huge business run by billionaire owners and investment companies. We will never see ticket prices drop, at any club. You will not get the personal family friendly touch in a 65k seater stadium which cost £1bn to build.
Much of what people have anger with would be more accurately directed at how football has changed, not how our owners behave. They are not perfect have and continue to make mistakes and poor decisions. But we are now in a position where we are extremely well placed financially to be able to compete. We have seen much increased spending on transfers and now that the coach and backroom staff seem to be good appointments, we are seeing that money being better spent and the football being far more entertaining with clear potential to get better and better.
That comes at a cost and sadly a cost for some which is too much to afford. Whether we become successful remains to be seen but we are at least in a financial place now where that possibility is realistic. If trophies truly are you only measure then this financial position should please you because it is the only way we stand any chance of success anytime soon.
posted on 12/3/24
Vicario, Porro, Romero, van de Ven, Udogie, Bissouma, Sarr, Kulusevski, Maddison, Johnson, Son.
This has the starting 11 from now on if all fit. This team nucleus has the perfect balance. It's basically the first eleven that went 10 games unbeaten (eight wins, 2 draws) until the Chelsea debacle.
It doesn't surprise me that last Sunday was the first time they all lined up together since the Chelsea game. Critical game, four-goal win, clean sheet.
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