comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Insufferable-Piffle (U4388)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Yeah, and I do get that, but on this very thread you’ll see people denigrating, or trying to, VVD who had a ridiculous galvanising effect on the team. People pick and choose.

Regardless though, Cantona was and is no King, I doubt he’d even make their top five best players and as such is actually vastly overrated by Utd fans imo.
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I saw a fair bit of VVD at Celtic and knew he was destined to move quickly and go to a bigger league, always thought he was a world class DC, people sometimes do find it difficult to set aside club loyalties when judging other teams players, fair enoughI just judge what I see as I'm sure a good few others on here do as well
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That character and leadership - there's no stats for that so it sends fan boys into a tailspin. Guys that do there work behind the scenes as well as the pitch. Guys that take a yellow at the right time. Guys that stand up to the other team's best player. Guys that know what to say and when in the ref's ear. Guys that see a player struggling and make an extra effort to give or take an easy pass to get them going again.

Love it.
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comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 10 minutes ago
Regardless though, Cantona was and is no King, I doubt he’d even make their top five best players and as such is actually vastly overrated by Utd fans imo.

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He is rated exactly as he should be, by the vast majority of United fans.
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I’m not sure they rate him as a pretty good forward who ended up being a bottling quitter do they?

Saying that, they do with Scholes, so who knows?

comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 10 minutes ago
Regardless though, Cantona was and is no King, I doubt he’d even make their top five best players and as such is actually vastly overrated by Utd fans imo.

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He is rated exactly as he should be, by the vast majority of United fans.
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I’m not sure they rate him as a pretty good forward who ended up being a bottling quitter do they?

Saying that, they do with Scholes, so who knows?
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You clearly don't.

Cantona did it in the big games when it counted from what I saw of him.

It depends what people look for in players. As a talisman and a leader you can't really argue against Cantona. He was a example to the crop of outstanding young players that Utd had coming through and galvanised the team.

As an actual footballer, I can completely see why people think he's overrated. Excellent player, sure, but all time great? He was the right man, in the right place at the right time.

In terms of others, given Owen won a Balon d'Or but never had a 20 goal league season, he's got to he up there.

Excellent player, sure, but all time great?

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There are not that many United fans that would claim this.

I have seen loads of "Best United XI" threads on here and Cantona rarely makes the list.

So why is he called the King when he’s about 14th line for the throne?

comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
So why is he called the King when he’s about 14th line for the throne?
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Probably because United fans know it irritates bed wetting Liverpool fans.

comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
So why is he called the King when he’s about 14th line for the throne?
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Denis Law is The King. Always has been

comment by RB&W -Same Place-Same Club-Same Man (U21434)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
So why is he called the King when he’s about 14th line for the throne?
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Denis Law is The King. Always has been
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Indeed.

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by RB&W -Same Place-Same Club-Same Man (U21434)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
So why is he called the King when he’s about 14th line for the throne?
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Denis Law is The King. Always has been
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Indeed.
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its just the Fergie generation of United fans who started calling Eric the King and many of them wont know who Denis Law is or even care. I loved Eric in the 90s and his legacy at United in undoubted. But he is not The KIng. Denis Law is. That cant be changed.

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
So why is he called the King when he’s about 14th line for the throne?
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Probably because United fans know it irritates bed wetting Liverpool fans.
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It’s not though is it, but carry on attention seeking

comment by RB&W -Same Place-Same Club-Same Man (U21434)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by RB&W -Same Place-Same Club-Same Man (U21434)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
So why is he called the King when he’s about 14th line for the throne?
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Denis Law is The King. Always has been
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Indeed.
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its just the Fergie generation of United fans who started calling Eric the King and many of them wont know who Denis Law is or even care. I loved Eric in the 90s and his legacy at United in undoubted. But he is not The KIng. Denis Law is. That cant be changed.
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Someone should tell google

comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
So why is he called the King when he’s about 14th line for the throne?
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Probably because United fans know it irritates bed wetting Liverpool fans.
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It’s not though is it, but carry on attention seeking
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Evidence points to the contrary but carry on being a child.

comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by RB&W -Same Place-Same Club-Same Man (U21434)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by RB&W -Same Place-Same Club-Same Man (U21434)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
So why is he called the King when he’s about 14th line for the throne?
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Denis Law is The King. Always has been
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Indeed.
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its just the Fergie generation of United fans who started calling Eric the King and many of them wont know who Denis Law is or even care. I loved Eric in the 90s and his legacy at United in undoubted. But he is not The KIng. Denis Law is. That cant be changed.
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Someone should tell google
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He's of the Fergie generation too. Annd probably a United fan.

Shut up acidic

This guy

comment by RB&W -Same Place-Same Club-Same Man (U21434)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by RB&W -Same Place-Same Club-Same Man (U21434)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by RB&W -Same Place-Same Club-Same Man (U21434)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 7 minutes ago
So why is he called the King when he’s about 14th line for the throne?
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Denis Law is The King. Always has been
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Indeed.
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its just the Fergie generation of United fans who started calling Eric the King and many of them wont know who Denis Law is or even care. I loved Eric in the 90s and his legacy at United in undoubted. But he is not The KIng. Denis Law is. That cant be changed.
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Someone should tell google
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He's of the Fergie generation too. Annd probably a United fan.
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Haha yeah maybe. But if you google who is the king of Manchester Utd it comes up with Eric and it’s for that reason I think he’s overrated, because as you say, he’s just not.

But if you google who is the king of Manchester Utd it comes up with Eric and it’s for that reason I think he’s overrated, because as you say, he’s just not.

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Bit of a stupid reason to decide that someone is overrated. Because Google tells me so.

You are not old enough to have watched him play and therefore cannot understand why United fans hold him in such high regard.

Plus having the mind of a child doesn't help.

Cantona won the title with Leeds, left them for Utd, won two consecutive titles then got banned. Utd lost the title to Blackburn by a point. Eric returns, Utd win two more titles on the bounce. Eric then retires and Arsenal win the double.
Is that a coincidence?

I really am old enough to have watch Cantona play. Look, you’re old, boring and have absolutely no charisma, we get it, but can you just let the normal people chat please.

Thanks in advance.

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 24 minutes ago
Excellent player, sure, but all time great?

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There are not that many United fans that would claim this.

I have seen loads of "Best United XI" threads on here and Cantona rarely makes the list.
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This thread isn't just about Utd fans though, it's about players that are generally overrated.

I just googled 'best epl players ever' and checked the top 3 links.

Cantona 6th (https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/greatest-best-premier-league-players-top-ever-liverpool-man-utd-arsenal-chelsea-tottenham-spurs-city-footballers-soccer-thierry-henry-cristiano-ronaldo/10)

10th (https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/sport/football/best-premier-league-players-all-time/)

10th (https://www.givemesport.com/greatest-premier-league-players-of-all-time/)

So for many people, he is seen as a great. Certainly a modern (EPL era) great anyway. On ability, that's questionable imo. Hence, overrated.

I really am old enough to have watch Cantona play.

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You clearly didn't watch him in that case, as you seem to be very clueless. Which is nothing new for you.

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
I really am old enough to have watch Cantona play.

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You clearly didn't watch him in that case, as you seem to be very clueless. Which is nothing new for you.
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Cool story. Anything to actually add to the debate regarding football or are you just going to whinge about what other people write, as usual?

So for many people, he is seen as a great. Certainly a modern (EPL era) great anyway. On ability, that's questionable imo. Hence, overrated.

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You are questioning Cantona's ability?

I guess you could rate Cantona similar to Bergkamp. Both very influential in their teams and had a lot of success with them, scored some lovely goals but not very prolific, assisted quite a few. Both rated very highly.