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I don’t remember him back then as I was a bit too young but I do have vague memories of the 98 World Cup and stronger memories of 2002. He was a hell of a player.
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FFS I was 24 in 1998. Thanks for making me feel old
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Sorry palI was only 8.
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Big birthday this year so?
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Big 50 in August mate mrs Irish is 50 in November

I turned 16 during Italia 90 was brilliant
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Your birth month has gone back 2 months in 34 years??

I'm trying to think of those football hipster players that it's become fashionable to rate cos it makes uou. Carrick and Scholes come to mind but I rate them both, maybe I'm the hipster

Oh yeah and regarding the OP just to annoy liquid definitely Ozil

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 5 minutes ago
van Basten and Ronaldo were elite, both cut down in their primes by injuries sadly but still produced great numbers in an era where defensive football was strong (still had the old offside rule of 3 players between striker and goal, the backpass rule that killed games etc).
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Both these rules are relevant to Van Basten but not to Ronaldo, they changed when he was 14 and 16.

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
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I don’t remember him back then as I was a bit too young but I do have vague memories of the 98 World Cup and stronger memories of 2002. He was a hell of a player.
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FFS I was 24 in 1998. Thanks for making me feel old
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Sorry palI was only 8.
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Big birthday this year so?
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Big 50 in August mate mrs Irish is 50 in November

I turned 16 during Italia 90 was brilliant
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Your birth month has gone back 2 months in 34 years??
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Sorry DJ meant turned 16 in 1990

My birthday is also in August. Must be an Irish thing. I'm nowhere near as old as you though.

comment by The Process (U20671)
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comment by Jordan Love MVP (U9335)
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This one might be controversial.

Drogba.
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I don’t necessarily disagree. Excellent big game player but plenty of pretty average seasons also.
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Think drogbas becoming underrated. Not only is his goals to minutes very impressive regardless, but the guy was a back to goal striker for the most part.

If you think Scholes was overrated then you have some serious issues with understanding football imo.

Or maybe you just never watched United live.

An exceptional player. One of United’s best ever.

comment by T-BAD (U11806)
posted 38 minutes ago
Does the original Ronaldo get overrated? I love him but the way people talk about him sometimes suggests he'd be beating Messi and Ronaldo numbers if he stayed fit, when realistically he never did that anyway
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I’m pretty sure he was on course to do so. Could be wrong. But no ronaldo is still the best out and out striker I’ve ever seen in my lifetime

Jordan Henderson

comment by Irishred (U2539)
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comment by Irishred (U2539)
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comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 28 seconds ago
I don’t remember him back then as I was a bit too young but I do have vague memories of the 98 World Cup and stronger memories of 2002. He was a hell of a player.
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FFS I was 24 in 1998. Thanks for making me feel old
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Sorry palI was only 8.
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Big birthday this year so?
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Big 50 in August mate mrs Irish is 50 in November

I turned 16 during Italia 90 was brilliant
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Your birth month has gone back 2 months in 34 years??
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Sorry DJ meant turned 16 in 1990
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Had a moment there thought you'd said 1690

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 14 minutes ago
My birthday is also in August. Must be an Irish thing. I'm nowhere near as old as you though.
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I’m more handsome and shexy

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 6 minutes ago
If you think Scholes was overrated then you have some serious issues with understanding football imo.

Or maybe you just never watched United live.

An exceptional player. One of United’s best ever.
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Scholes was highly rated by Utd fans, coaches (both Utd and England) and by his peers. In general underrated by most fans, rarely overrated unless people are on the WUM.

It’s Steven Gerrard.

Irish and August here too

It’s because Mama Deej only gives it up in December

Torres is a strange shout for most overrated player, that's for sure.

Going by this forum I'd put Le Tissier high up the list. A skillful player no doubt but certainly nowhere near where some put him.

comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Ten Hag (U23079)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 6 minutes ago
If you think Scholes was overrated then you have some serious issues with understanding football imo.

Or maybe you just never watched United live.

An exceptional player. One of United’s best ever.
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Scholes was highly rated by Utd fans, coaches (both Utd and England) and by his peers. In general underrated by most fans, rarely overrated unless people are on the WUM.
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He was and for good reason. I think people are talking about after he retired when he went up several levels year after year.

This is a pointless thread really, as opinions on players would always wildly diverge with every fan. Some players I find overrated are players I rate very highly, but STILL think many ridiculously overhype them. Scholes is my number one. It's not as bad as it used to be but the amount of guff I used to hear from Man U fans about him about a decade ago was deeply irritating - especially when they act like he was somehow leagues above Gerrard and Lampard. Modric is my number one in modern football. Great balance and lovely technique, but far too much credit for too little.

The first comment on this thread mentions Fabregas for example - a forgotten player who hardly anyone talks about (meaning he's actually underrated) - but who I wouldn't have swapped for anyone in his position in his Arsenal prime. There is no reconciling wildly diverging opinion like that. You can call just about anyone up to Messi "overrated" for whatever reason.

comment by RB&W -Same Place-Same Club-Same Man (U21434)
posted 5 minutes ago
Jordan Henderson
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Probably only Liverpool fans and Gareth Southgate tbf

comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
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comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Ten Hag (U23079)
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comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 6 minutes ago
If you think Scholes was overrated then you have some serious issues with understanding football imo.

Or maybe you just never watched United live.

An exceptional player. One of United’s best ever.
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Scholes was highly rated by Utd fans, coaches (both Utd and England) and by his peers. In general underrated by most fans, rarely overrated unless people are on the WUM.
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He was and for good reason. I think people are talking about after he retired when he went up several levels year after year.
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Which is utter bull. A myth peddled mostly by Liverpool fans.

Yeah, fabregas is probably one of the best playmakers this league has ever seen. I didn't interact with the first comment as it seemed nobody else really agreed

comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 9 minutes ago
It’s Steven Gerrard.
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Aww mate, have a lie down ffs

comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 10 minutes ago
It’s Steven Gerrard.
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There is some truth to this.

Fantastic player with some awesome attributes, but it’s never really talked about how he lacked other attributes to make him succeed in a central midfield two.

comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Ten Hag (U23079)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 6 minutes ago
If you think Scholes was overrated then you have some serious issues with understanding football imo.

Or maybe you just never watched United live.

An exceptional player. One of United’s best ever.
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Scholes was highly rated by Utd fans, coaches (both Utd and England) and by his peers. In general underrated by most fans, rarely overrated unless people are on the WUM.
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Scholes is one of those players that soooooooooo many people tell you that he's "underrated" that he actually became overrated. Everybody rates Scholes very highly. He was outstanding. Many Man U fans want him to be pretty much recognized as some kind of Zidane-level player who was leagues ahead of Gerrard and Lampard when he wasn't anything close to that. If I were a Liverpool fan, I'd never swap Gerrard for Scholes.

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comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Ten Hag (U23079)
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comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 6 minutes ago
If you think Scholes was overrated then you have some serious issues with understanding football imo.

Or maybe you just never watched United live.

An exceptional player. One of United’s best ever.
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Scholes was highly rated by Utd fans, coaches (both Utd and England) and by his peers. In general underrated by most fans, rarely overrated unless people are on the WUM.
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Scholes is one of those players that soooooooooo many people tell you that he's "underrated" that he actually became overrated. Everybody rates Scholes very highly. He was outstanding. Many Man U fans want him to be pretty much recognized as some kind of Zidane-level player who was leagues ahead of Gerrard and Lampard when he wasn't anything close to that. If I were a Liverpool fan, I'd never swap Gerrard for Scholes.

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And I’d never swap Scholes for Gerrard.