comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Jalisco Red (U4195)
posted 3 minutes ago
Playing Antony at LB might well be the answer, although of course that depends very much on what the question is
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If he does go back to Brazil and gets sent to prison for beating his Mrs but Ronaldinho and Robinho are in good form on the wings, where will Antony have to play?
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LB
comment by T-BAD (U11806)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 24 seconds ago
I think the new team behind the scenes have a massive task on their hands trying to get rid f some of the wasters we have on daft contracts.
We won’t see any fees anywhere near the player value. IMO we should bite the bullet and get rid of them on the cheap if needs be.
I would sell Bruno if an offer came in so that we can finally move away from two in midfield.
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Again, this is what we had to do, sometimes even continuing to pay wages for players. Sucks in the short term but sometimes its just gotta be done & new owners looking to draw a line under the old regime might be the right time.
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T-BAD
For sure. I hadn’t read through all the comments so didn’t see yours.
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 3 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 32 seconds ago
https://twitter.com/David_Ornstein/status/1784977235864142230?t=RQyBy82td2C0SUKKRSHacw&s=19
Rashy ain't leaving. The Oracle has spoken.
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Doesn’t exactly rule it out. A substantial bid would be a fiver and a packet of peanuts.
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You're confusing Antony with Rashford there mate. 👍
Rashford is woefully out of form this season but we know he's got it in him to do much better as he's shown previously.
Anything less than 65/70m would be awful business by us. I don't think he will end up leaving either.
Varane Casemiro Eriksen Martial and 2/3 others. I suspect Maguire and Rashford will probably stay.
McTominay needs to be sold as well.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 47 seconds ago
McTominay needs to be sold as well.
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But probably won't be either. 😂
We aren't going to be able to sell 2/3 of the squad and replace them in one window. Lots of fans who are expecting that to happen are going to be very disappointed.
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 38 minutes ago
If we can get the players out who is going to want to come in to play for the most deluded manager in world football or are most assuming he will be gone ?
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Luckily we don't have the most deluded manager in the world
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Sorry 52 I forgot how Dynamic we are, my mistake and it’s the people paying him 9 million a year who are deluded not him that’s fair as well
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I didn't say he was good, but his record at Ajax shows he has something to offer. Also his record at United doesn't look terrible written down. So I think you are guilty of some exaggeration.
His record at Ajax means absolutely nothing as we talked about the other day. The leagues just aren't comparable.
The biggest selling point of ETH and why I really wanted him was the football Ajax played and in particular that game I saw them beat Real Madrid 4-1 in the Bernabeu.
However I have begun to realise that it's probably quite likely that football had very little to do with him and more the fact they just had some amazing young players who all came through at the same time and had been playing that style of football since the age of 7/8 in one of the most famous academies in the world.
However I have begun to realise that it's probably quite likely that football had very little to do with him
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So the football Ajax played had very little to do with him, but the football we play has everything to do with him?
We aren't going to be able to sell 2/3 of the squad and replace them in one window.
…..
Selling will be the hard part. Replacing someone like McTominay shouldn’t be an issue or AWB, or Antony or Eriksen.
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 minute ago
However I have begun to realise that it's probably quite likely that football had very little to do with him
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So the football Ajax played had very little to do with him, but the football we play has everything to do with him?
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Oh the football we play isn't all on ETH. We've been crap for best part of a decade. Not everything can be blamed on him not has it been.
Everyone knows the Glazers and Woodward have been far more disastrous than ETH has been. I still think he has to go though.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
We aren't going to be able to sell 2/3 of the squad and replace them in one window.
…..
Selling will be the hard part. Replacing someone like McTominay shouldn’t be an issue or AWB, or Antony or Eriksen.
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Totally agree. Ed Woodward and Matt Judge have made it practically impossible to sell a lot of them.
We are staring down the barrel of another 2-3 difficult seasons I suspect why we wait for contracts to expire for many of them. And obviously that's no good to us as we don't make any money off them then.
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/chancenverwertung/wettbewerb/GB1/sort/quote_im_tor/saison_id/2022
We played amazing football last season but wastefulness cost us and corrupt officials. The corrupt officials have been overdrive this season to a new level, that had killed any momentum we had.
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 5 minutes ago
However I have begun to realise that it's probably quite likely that football had very little to do with him
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So the football Ajax played had very little to do with him, but the football we play has everything to do with him?
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And to add to my response above on this point.....whilst I don't put all the blame on ETH for the way we play.....he does have to take some of the blame surely? He's spent £400m not 40p. Even his own signings don't do the basics that well so that's where the excuses for him get tiresome.
We need a new manager. That's been clear for a while.
Look at our shot count last 3 games. Even the Liverpool recent game we missed 2 absolute sitters and conceded a corrupt pen.
People talk about the mess Jose left behind but forget that Ole left a comparable, maybe even worse mess.
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 5 minutes ago
However I have begun to realise that it's probably quite likely that football had very little to do with him
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So the football Ajax played had very little to do with him, but the football we play has everything to do with him?
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And to add to my response above on this point.....whilst I don't put all the blame on ETH for the way we play.....he does have to take some of the blame surely? He's spent £400m not 40p. Even his own signings don't do the basics that well so that's where the excuses for him get tiresome.
We need a new manager. That's been clear for a while.
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That's fine. I'm not arguing that ETH deserves to keep his job. But if you can't see the glaring inconsistency in your arguments when you attempt to remove any of the credit for ETH's work at Ajax, whilst simultaneously blaming him for the state of this United team, I really dont know what else to say. (And please don't say you don't blame him - we all read your comments on here day in day out).
Just a weird and unnecessary point to make tbh.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 38 minutes ago
If we can get the players out who is going to want to come in to play for the most deluded manager in world football or are most assuming he will be gone ?
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Luckily we don't have the most deluded manager in the world
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Sorry 52 I forgot how Dynamic we are, my mistake and it’s the people paying him 9 million a year who are deluded not him that’s fair as well
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I didn't say he was good, but his record at Ajax shows he has something to offer. Also his record at United doesn't look terrible written down. So I think you are guilty of some exaggeration.
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Maybe your more objective on this than me 52 I’ve just never really taken to the guy while understanding there are many other issues within the club, if he stays so be it but it will be a leap of faith for Jim to keep him rather that just a complete reset with his own man.
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 5 minutes ago
However I have begun to realise that it's probably quite likely that football had very little to do with him
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So the football Ajax played had very little to do with him, but the football we play has everything to do with him?
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And to add to my response above on this point.....whilst I don't put all the blame on ETH for the way we play.....he does have to take some of the blame surely? He's spent £400m not 40p. Even his own signings don't do the basics that well so that's where the excuses for him get tiresome.
We need a new manager. That's been clear for a while.
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That's fine. I'm not arguing that ETH deserves to keep his job. But if you can't see the glaring inconsistency in your arguments when you attempt to remove any of the credit for ETH's work at Ajax, whilst simultaneously blaming him for the state of this United team, I really dont know what else to say. (And please don't say you don't blame him - we all read your comments on here day in day out).
Just a weird and unnecessary point to make tbh.
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Well we haven't played any good football. Even last season we weren't good on the eye. We just defended better and had Rashford on fire for 5 months.
There's teams in the PL in the bottom half of the table who knock the ball around better than we do. Burnley did at the week.
I don't blame it all on ETH but he definitely has to take a good chunk of it.
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 5 minutes ago
However I have begun to realise that it's probably quite likely that football had very little to do with him
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So the football Ajax played had very little to do with him, but the football we play has everything to do with him?
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And to add to my response above on this point.....whilst I don't put all the blame on ETH for the way we play.....he does have to take some of the blame surely? He's spent £400m not 40p. Even his own signings don't do the basics that well so that's where the excuses for him get tiresome.
We need a new manager. That's been clear for a while.
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That's fine. I'm not arguing that ETH deserves to keep his job. But if you can't see the glaring inconsistency in your arguments when you attempt to remove any of the credit for ETH's work at Ajax, whilst simultaneously blaming him for the state of this United team, I really dont know what else to say. (And please don't say you don't blame him - we all read your comments on here day in day out).
Just a weird and unnecessary point to make tbh.
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Well we haven't played any good football. Even last season we weren't good on the eye. We just defended better and had Rashford on fire for 5 months.
There's teams in the PL in the bottom half of the table who knock the ball around better than we do. Burnley did at the week.
I don't blame it all on ETH but he definitely has to take a good chunk of it.
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Again, this isn't the point I'm making.
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 5 minutes ago
However I have begun to realise that it's probably quite likely that football had very little to do with him
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So the football Ajax played had very little to do with him, but the football we play has everything to do with him?
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And to add to my response above on this point.....whilst I don't put all the blame on ETH for the way we play.....he does have to take some of the blame surely? He's spent £400m not 40p. Even his own signings don't do the basics that well so that's where the excuses for him get tiresome.
We need a new manager. That's been clear for a while.
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That's fine. I'm not arguing that ETH deserves to keep his job. But if you can't see the glaring inconsistency in your arguments when you attempt to remove any of the credit for ETH's work at Ajax, whilst simultaneously blaming him for the state of this United team, I really dont know what else to say. (And please don't say you don't blame him - we all read your comments on here day in day out).
Just a weird and unnecessary point to make tbh.
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Well we haven't played any good football. Even last season we weren't good on the eye. We just defended better and had Rashford on fire for 5 months.
There's teams in the PL in the bottom half of the table who knock the ball around better than we do. Burnley did at the week.
I don't blame it all on ETH but he definitely has to take a good chunk of it.
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Do you ever actually read the posts you respond to?
comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 5 minutes ago
However I have begun to realise that it's probably quite likely that football had very little to do with him
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So the football Ajax played had very little to do with him, but the football we play has everything to do with him?
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And to add to my response above on this point.....whilst I don't put all the blame on ETH for the way we play.....he does have to take some of the blame surely? He's spent £400m not 40p. Even his own signings don't do the basics that well so that's where the excuses for him get tiresome.
We need a new manager. That's been clear for a while.
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That's fine. I'm not arguing that ETH deserves to keep his job. But if you can't see the glaring inconsistency in your arguments when you attempt to remove any of the credit for ETH's work at Ajax, whilst simultaneously blaming him for the state of this United team, I really dont know what else to say. (And please don't say you don't blame him - we all read your comments on here day in day out).
Just a weird and unnecessary point to make tbh.
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Well we haven't played any good football. Even last season we weren't good on the eye. We just defended better and had Rashford on fire for 5 months.
There's teams in the PL in the bottom half of the table who knock the ball around better than we do. Burnley did at the week.
I don't blame it all on ETH but he definitely has to take a good chunk of it.
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Do you ever actually read the posts you respond to?
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To be fair, Antony was overpriced but that's not his fault. I'd he'd costed 30-40m he'd still be a flop but no one would care really
comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 5 minutes ago
However I have begun to realise that it's probably quite likely that football had very little to do with him
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So the football Ajax played had very little to do with him, but the football we play has everything to do with him?
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And to add to my response above on this point.....whilst I don't put all the blame on ETH for the way we play.....he does have to take some of the blame surely? He's spent £400m not 40p. Even his own signings don't do the basics that well so that's where the excuses for him get tiresome.
We need a new manager. That's been clear for a while.
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That's fine. I'm not arguing that ETH deserves to keep his job. But if you can't see the glaring inconsistency in your arguments when you attempt to remove any of the credit for ETH's work at Ajax, whilst simultaneously blaming him for the state of this United team, I really dont know what else to say. (And please don't say you don't blame him - we all read your comments on here day in day out).
Just a weird and unnecessary point to make tbh.
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Well we haven't played any good football. Even last season we weren't good on the eye. We just defended better and had Rashford on fire for 5 months.
There's teams in the PL in the bottom half of the table who knock the ball around better than we do. Burnley did at the week.
I don't blame it all on ETH but he definitely has to take a good chunk of it.
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Do you ever actually read the posts you respond to?
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To be fair, Antony was overpriced but that's not his fault. I'd he'd costed 30-40m he'd still be a flop but no one would care really
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comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 5 minutes ago
However I have begun to realise that it's probably quite likely that football had very little to do with him
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So the football Ajax played had very little to do with him, but the football we play has everything to do with him?
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And to add to my response above on this point.....whilst I don't put all the blame on ETH for the way we play.....he does have to take some of the blame surely? He's spent £400m not 40p. Even his own signings don't do the basics that well so that's where the excuses for him get tiresome.
We need a new manager. That's been clear for a while.
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That's fine. I'm not arguing that ETH deserves to keep his job. But if you can't see the glaring inconsistency in your arguments when you attempt to remove any of the credit for ETH's work at Ajax, whilst simultaneously blaming him for the state of this United team, I really dont know what else to say. (And please don't say you don't blame him - we all read your comments on here day in day out).
Just a weird and unnecessary point to make tbh.
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Well we haven't played any good football. Even last season we weren't good on the eye. We just defended better and had Rashford on fire for 5 months.
There's teams in the PL in the bottom half of the table who knock the ball around better than we do. Burnley did at the week.
I don't blame it all on ETH but he definitely has to take a good chunk of it.
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Do you ever actually read the posts you respond to?
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To be fair, Antony was overpriced but that's not his fault. I'd he'd costed 30-40m he'd still be a flop but no one would care really
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comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 5 minutes ago
However I have begun to realise that it's probably quite likely that football had very little to do with him
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So the football Ajax played had very little to do with him, but the football we play has everything to do with him?
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And to add to my response above on this point.....whilst I don't put all the blame on ETH for the way we play.....he does have to take some of the blame surely? He's spent £400m not 40p. Even his own signings don't do the basics that well so that's where the excuses for him get tiresome.
We need a new manager. That's been clear for a while.
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That's fine. I'm not arguing that ETH deserves to keep his job. But if you can't see the glaring inconsistency in your arguments when you attempt to remove any of the credit for ETH's work at Ajax, whilst simultaneously blaming him for the state of this United team, I really dont know what else to say. (And please don't say you don't blame him - we all read your comments on here day in day out).
Just a weird and unnecessary point to make tbh.
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Well we haven't played any good football. Even last season we weren't good on the eye. We just defended better and had Rashford on fire for 5 months.
There's teams in the PL in the bottom half of the table who knock the ball around better than we do. Burnley did at the week.
I don't blame it all on ETH but he definitely has to take a good chunk of it.
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Do you ever actually read the posts you respond to?
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Of course I do.
I have said I want a new manager. I have also said I don't blame everything on ETH and I honestly don't. I can't be fairer than that.
After 2 seasons did you think we'd be playing better football than we are now? Be honest.
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Another clear out needed?
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posted on 29/4/24
comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Jalisco Red (U4195)
posted 3 minutes ago
Playing Antony at LB might well be the answer, although of course that depends very much on what the question is
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If he does go back to Brazil and gets sent to prison for beating his Mrs but Ronaldinho and Robinho are in good form on the wings, where will Antony have to play?
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LB
posted on 29/4/24
comment by T-BAD (U11806)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 24 seconds ago
I think the new team behind the scenes have a massive task on their hands trying to get rid f some of the wasters we have on daft contracts.
We won’t see any fees anywhere near the player value. IMO we should bite the bullet and get rid of them on the cheap if needs be.
I would sell Bruno if an offer came in so that we can finally move away from two in midfield.
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Again, this is what we had to do, sometimes even continuing to pay wages for players. Sucks in the short term but sometimes its just gotta be done & new owners looking to draw a line under the old regime might be the right time.
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T-BAD
For sure. I hadn’t read through all the comments so didn’t see yours.
posted on 29/4/24
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 3 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 32 seconds ago
https://twitter.com/David_Ornstein/status/1784977235864142230?t=RQyBy82td2C0SUKKRSHacw&s=19
Rashy ain't leaving. The Oracle has spoken.
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Doesn’t exactly rule it out. A substantial bid would be a fiver and a packet of peanuts.
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You're confusing Antony with Rashford there mate. 👍
Rashford is woefully out of form this season but we know he's got it in him to do much better as he's shown previously.
Anything less than 65/70m would be awful business by us. I don't think he will end up leaving either.
Varane Casemiro Eriksen Martial and 2/3 others. I suspect Maguire and Rashford will probably stay.
posted on 29/4/24
McTominay needs to be sold as well.
posted on 29/4/24
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 47 seconds ago
McTominay needs to be sold as well.
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But probably won't be either. 😂
We aren't going to be able to sell 2/3 of the squad and replace them in one window. Lots of fans who are expecting that to happen are going to be very disappointed.
posted on 29/4/24
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 38 minutes ago
If we can get the players out who is going to want to come in to play for the most deluded manager in world football or are most assuming he will be gone ?
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Luckily we don't have the most deluded manager in the world
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Sorry 52 I forgot how Dynamic we are, my mistake and it’s the people paying him 9 million a year who are deluded not him that’s fair as well
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I didn't say he was good, but his record at Ajax shows he has something to offer. Also his record at United doesn't look terrible written down. So I think you are guilty of some exaggeration.
posted on 29/4/24
His record at Ajax means absolutely nothing as we talked about the other day. The leagues just aren't comparable.
The biggest selling point of ETH and why I really wanted him was the football Ajax played and in particular that game I saw them beat Real Madrid 4-1 in the Bernabeu.
However I have begun to realise that it's probably quite likely that football had very little to do with him and more the fact they just had some amazing young players who all came through at the same time and had been playing that style of football since the age of 7/8 in one of the most famous academies in the world.
posted on 29/4/24
However I have begun to realise that it's probably quite likely that football had very little to do with him
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So the football Ajax played had very little to do with him, but the football we play has everything to do with him?
posted on 29/4/24
posted on 29/4/24
We aren't going to be able to sell 2/3 of the squad and replace them in one window.
…..
Selling will be the hard part. Replacing someone like McTominay shouldn’t be an issue or AWB, or Antony or Eriksen.
posted on 29/4/24
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 minute ago
However I have begun to realise that it's probably quite likely that football had very little to do with him
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So the football Ajax played had very little to do with him, but the football we play has everything to do with him?
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Oh the football we play isn't all on ETH. We've been crap for best part of a decade. Not everything can be blamed on him not has it been.
Everyone knows the Glazers and Woodward have been far more disastrous than ETH has been. I still think he has to go though.
posted on 29/4/24
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
We aren't going to be able to sell 2/3 of the squad and replace them in one window.
…..
Selling will be the hard part. Replacing someone like McTominay shouldn’t be an issue or AWB, or Antony or Eriksen.
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Totally agree. Ed Woodward and Matt Judge have made it practically impossible to sell a lot of them.
We are staring down the barrel of another 2-3 difficult seasons I suspect why we wait for contracts to expire for many of them. And obviously that's no good to us as we don't make any money off them then.
posted on 29/4/24
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/chancenverwertung/wettbewerb/GB1/sort/quote_im_tor/saison_id/2022
We played amazing football last season but wastefulness cost us and corrupt officials. The corrupt officials have been overdrive this season to a new level, that had killed any momentum we had.
posted on 29/4/24
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 5 minutes ago
However I have begun to realise that it's probably quite likely that football had very little to do with him
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So the football Ajax played had very little to do with him, but the football we play has everything to do with him?
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And to add to my response above on this point.....whilst I don't put all the blame on ETH for the way we play.....he does have to take some of the blame surely? He's spent £400m not 40p. Even his own signings don't do the basics that well so that's where the excuses for him get tiresome.
We need a new manager. That's been clear for a while.
posted on 29/4/24
Look at our shot count last 3 games. Even the Liverpool recent game we missed 2 absolute sitters and conceded a corrupt pen.
posted on 29/4/24
People talk about the mess Jose left behind but forget that Ole left a comparable, maybe even worse mess.
posted on 29/4/24
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 5 minutes ago
However I have begun to realise that it's probably quite likely that football had very little to do with him
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So the football Ajax played had very little to do with him, but the football we play has everything to do with him?
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And to add to my response above on this point.....whilst I don't put all the blame on ETH for the way we play.....he does have to take some of the blame surely? He's spent £400m not 40p. Even his own signings don't do the basics that well so that's where the excuses for him get tiresome.
We need a new manager. That's been clear for a while.
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That's fine. I'm not arguing that ETH deserves to keep his job. But if you can't see the glaring inconsistency in your arguments when you attempt to remove any of the credit for ETH's work at Ajax, whilst simultaneously blaming him for the state of this United team, I really dont know what else to say. (And please don't say you don't blame him - we all read your comments on here day in day out).
Just a weird and unnecessary point to make tbh.
posted on 29/4/24
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Franko Cantona (U22187)
posted 38 minutes ago
If we can get the players out who is going to want to come in to play for the most deluded manager in world football or are most assuming he will be gone ?
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Luckily we don't have the most deluded manager in the world
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Sorry 52 I forgot how Dynamic we are, my mistake and it’s the people paying him 9 million a year who are deluded not him that’s fair as well
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I didn't say he was good, but his record at Ajax shows he has something to offer. Also his record at United doesn't look terrible written down. So I think you are guilty of some exaggeration.
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Maybe your more objective on this than me 52 I’ve just never really taken to the guy while understanding there are many other issues within the club, if he stays so be it but it will be a leap of faith for Jim to keep him rather that just a complete reset with his own man.
posted on 29/4/24
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 5 minutes ago
However I have begun to realise that it's probably quite likely that football had very little to do with him
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So the football Ajax played had very little to do with him, but the football we play has everything to do with him?
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And to add to my response above on this point.....whilst I don't put all the blame on ETH for the way we play.....he does have to take some of the blame surely? He's spent £400m not 40p. Even his own signings don't do the basics that well so that's where the excuses for him get tiresome.
We need a new manager. That's been clear for a while.
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That's fine. I'm not arguing that ETH deserves to keep his job. But if you can't see the glaring inconsistency in your arguments when you attempt to remove any of the credit for ETH's work at Ajax, whilst simultaneously blaming him for the state of this United team, I really dont know what else to say. (And please don't say you don't blame him - we all read your comments on here day in day out).
Just a weird and unnecessary point to make tbh.
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Well we haven't played any good football. Even last season we weren't good on the eye. We just defended better and had Rashford on fire for 5 months.
There's teams in the PL in the bottom half of the table who knock the ball around better than we do. Burnley did at the week.
I don't blame it all on ETH but he definitely has to take a good chunk of it.
posted on 29/4/24
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 5 minutes ago
However I have begun to realise that it's probably quite likely that football had very little to do with him
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So the football Ajax played had very little to do with him, but the football we play has everything to do with him?
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And to add to my response above on this point.....whilst I don't put all the blame on ETH for the way we play.....he does have to take some of the blame surely? He's spent £400m not 40p. Even his own signings don't do the basics that well so that's where the excuses for him get tiresome.
We need a new manager. That's been clear for a while.
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That's fine. I'm not arguing that ETH deserves to keep his job. But if you can't see the glaring inconsistency in your arguments when you attempt to remove any of the credit for ETH's work at Ajax, whilst simultaneously blaming him for the state of this United team, I really dont know what else to say. (And please don't say you don't blame him - we all read your comments on here day in day out).
Just a weird and unnecessary point to make tbh.
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Well we haven't played any good football. Even last season we weren't good on the eye. We just defended better and had Rashford on fire for 5 months.
There's teams in the PL in the bottom half of the table who knock the ball around better than we do. Burnley did at the week.
I don't blame it all on ETH but he definitely has to take a good chunk of it.
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Again, this isn't the point I'm making.
posted on 29/4/24
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 5 minutes ago
However I have begun to realise that it's probably quite likely that football had very little to do with him
-----------
So the football Ajax played had very little to do with him, but the football we play has everything to do with him?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And to add to my response above on this point.....whilst I don't put all the blame on ETH for the way we play.....he does have to take some of the blame surely? He's spent £400m not 40p. Even his own signings don't do the basics that well so that's where the excuses for him get tiresome.
We need a new manager. That's been clear for a while.
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That's fine. I'm not arguing that ETH deserves to keep his job. But if you can't see the glaring inconsistency in your arguments when you attempt to remove any of the credit for ETH's work at Ajax, whilst simultaneously blaming him for the state of this United team, I really dont know what else to say. (And please don't say you don't blame him - we all read your comments on here day in day out).
Just a weird and unnecessary point to make tbh.
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Well we haven't played any good football. Even last season we weren't good on the eye. We just defended better and had Rashford on fire for 5 months.
There's teams in the PL in the bottom half of the table who knock the ball around better than we do. Burnley did at the week.
I don't blame it all on ETH but he definitely has to take a good chunk of it.
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Do you ever actually read the posts you respond to?
posted on 29/4/24
comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 5 minutes ago
However I have begun to realise that it's probably quite likely that football had very little to do with him
-----------
So the football Ajax played had very little to do with him, but the football we play has everything to do with him?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And to add to my response above on this point.....whilst I don't put all the blame on ETH for the way we play.....he does have to take some of the blame surely? He's spent £400m not 40p. Even his own signings don't do the basics that well so that's where the excuses for him get tiresome.
We need a new manager. That's been clear for a while.
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That's fine. I'm not arguing that ETH deserves to keep his job. But if you can't see the glaring inconsistency in your arguments when you attempt to remove any of the credit for ETH's work at Ajax, whilst simultaneously blaming him for the state of this United team, I really dont know what else to say. (And please don't say you don't blame him - we all read your comments on here day in day out).
Just a weird and unnecessary point to make tbh.
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Well we haven't played any good football. Even last season we weren't good on the eye. We just defended better and had Rashford on fire for 5 months.
There's teams in the PL in the bottom half of the table who knock the ball around better than we do. Burnley did at the week.
I don't blame it all on ETH but he definitely has to take a good chunk of it.
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Do you ever actually read the posts you respond to?
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To be fair, Antony was overpriced but that's not his fault. I'd he'd costed 30-40m he'd still be a flop but no one would care really
posted on 29/4/24
comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 5 minutes ago
However I have begun to realise that it's probably quite likely that football had very little to do with him
-----------
So the football Ajax played had very little to do with him, but the football we play has everything to do with him?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And to add to my response above on this point.....whilst I don't put all the blame on ETH for the way we play.....he does have to take some of the blame surely? He's spent £400m not 40p. Even his own signings don't do the basics that well so that's where the excuses for him get tiresome.
We need a new manager. That's been clear for a while.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That's fine. I'm not arguing that ETH deserves to keep his job. But if you can't see the glaring inconsistency in your arguments when you attempt to remove any of the credit for ETH's work at Ajax, whilst simultaneously blaming him for the state of this United team, I really dont know what else to say. (And please don't say you don't blame him - we all read your comments on here day in day out).
Just a weird and unnecessary point to make tbh.
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Well we haven't played any good football. Even last season we weren't good on the eye. We just defended better and had Rashford on fire for 5 months.
There's teams in the PL in the bottom half of the table who knock the ball around better than we do. Burnley did at the week.
I don't blame it all on ETH but he definitely has to take a good chunk of it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do you ever actually read the posts you respond to?
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To be fair, Antony was overpriced but that's not his fault. I'd he'd costed 30-40m he'd still be a flop but no one would care really
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posted on 29/4/24
comment by Bãleș left boot (U22081)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 5 minutes ago
However I have begun to realise that it's probably quite likely that football had very little to do with him
-----------
So the football Ajax played had very little to do with him, but the football we play has everything to do with him?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And to add to my response above on this point.....whilst I don't put all the blame on ETH for the way we play.....he does have to take some of the blame surely? He's spent £400m not 40p. Even his own signings don't do the basics that well so that's where the excuses for him get tiresome.
We need a new manager. That's been clear for a while.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That's fine. I'm not arguing that ETH deserves to keep his job. But if you can't see the glaring inconsistency in your arguments when you attempt to remove any of the credit for ETH's work at Ajax, whilst simultaneously blaming him for the state of this United team, I really dont know what else to say. (And please don't say you don't blame him - we all read your comments on here day in day out).
Just a weird and unnecessary point to make tbh.
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Well we haven't played any good football. Even last season we weren't good on the eye. We just defended better and had Rashford on fire for 5 months.
There's teams in the PL in the bottom half of the table who knock the ball around better than we do. Burnley did at the week.
I don't blame it all on ETH but he definitely has to take a good chunk of it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Do you ever actually read the posts you respond to?
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To be fair, Antony was overpriced but that's not his fault. I'd he'd costed 30-40m he'd still be a flop but no one would care really
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posted on 29/4/24
comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 5 minutes ago
However I have begun to realise that it's probably quite likely that football had very little to do with him
-----------
So the football Ajax played had very little to do with him, but the football we play has everything to do with him?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And to add to my response above on this point.....whilst I don't put all the blame on ETH for the way we play.....he does have to take some of the blame surely? He's spent £400m not 40p. Even his own signings don't do the basics that well so that's where the excuses for him get tiresome.
We need a new manager. That's been clear for a while.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That's fine. I'm not arguing that ETH deserves to keep his job. But if you can't see the glaring inconsistency in your arguments when you attempt to remove any of the credit for ETH's work at Ajax, whilst simultaneously blaming him for the state of this United team, I really dont know what else to say. (And please don't say you don't blame him - we all read your comments on here day in day out).
Just a weird and unnecessary point to make tbh.
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Well we haven't played any good football. Even last season we weren't good on the eye. We just defended better and had Rashford on fire for 5 months.
There's teams in the PL in the bottom half of the table who knock the ball around better than we do. Burnley did at the week.
I don't blame it all on ETH but he definitely has to take a good chunk of it.
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Do you ever actually read the posts you respond to?
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Of course I do.
I have said I want a new manager. I have also said I don't blame everything on ETH and I honestly don't. I can't be fairer than that.
After 2 seasons did you think we'd be playing better football than we are now? Be honest.
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