"UAE export overview
The United Arab Emirates (UAE) is the UK’s largest export market in the Middle East and the 13th biggest globally. The UK exported £9.8 billion of goods and services in 2016. This was a 37% increase since 2009. The UAE is the UK’s fourth largest export market outside the EU."
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So it made sense for ADUG to buy an English club as bi-lateral trading was commonplace?
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Oh and not to mention in buying City Mansour has also been able to buy loads of land in East Manchester on the cheap. Was the former in order to do the latter?
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The pay-off was improved roads, new school and sports centre and loads of jobs for local people.
Manchester City Council did very well out of the deal.
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How to rehabilitate your reputation with a foreign government critical of your human rights record. Get friendly with a local council, buy land cheap, build schools and infrastructure.
Didn't our government do the same all over the world. It wasn't altruistic, it was about control, power and money.
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Our government have been courting investment from them and all over the Middle East for years before they bought a football club to be fair.
There’s a few slightly odd narratives going on here.
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What year did Mansour buy City?
"UAE export overview
The United Arab Emirates (UAE) is the UK’s largest export market in the Middle East and the 13th biggest globally. The UK exported £9.8 billion of goods and services in 2016. This was a 37% increase since 2009. The UAE is the UK’s fourth largest export market outside the EU."
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And who is that a benefit to…?! That’s exactly an example of that being more likely us courting them! Either way, the idea that that’s come about from them buying City and not from either the decades long partnership already in place or them buying up infrastructure and also stopping Barclays from being nationalised is ridiculous. Even the fact he’s sold stakes to China in City shows it’s a false narrative.
This is just daft now, the Gulf states including UAE have been investing huge sums of money recently while we've been selling them arms and not criticising their human rights records. Bojo did a big deal with the UAE but apparently politicians aren't subject to their influence, whatever.
It's obvious some of the fans of the club give not two single hoots and will come up with their own logic and reasoning for whatevers going on even though it's quite obvious
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This is just daft now, the Gulf states including UAE have been investing huge sums of money recently while we've been selling them arms and not criticising their human rights records. Bojo did a big deal with the UAE but apparently politicians aren't subject to their influence, whatever.
It's obvious some of the fans of the club give not two single hoots and will come up with their own logic and reasoning for whatevers going on even though it's quite obvious
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No some might just be capable of rational thought and realise that them buying City has sod all to do with any of the rest of the UKs relations with the UAE.
And just for the record I’ll state I personally think the UAE’s human rights record is a stain on our club that I’ll never advocate or defend.
What are these Human Rights issues you are so vexed about?
Please stick to Abu Dhabi, not the whole Arabian Peninsula.
And you thinking there was more uproar from Mansour buying shares in Barclays stopping them from being nationalised than there was him buying city doesn’t suggest you’re an honest actor in this yourself
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No some might just be capable of rational thought and realise that them buying City has sod all to do with any of the rest of the UKs relations with the UAE.
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Yes mate, there's conclusive evidence showing that Manchester City sold off it's brownfield sites to Mansour for a fraction of the costs but you and Bozo are the rational ones.
Just a joke really.
as in Manchester City Council
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No some might just be capable of rational thought and realise that them buying City has sod all to do with any of the rest of the UKs relations with the UAE.
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Yes mate, there's conclusive evidence showing that Manchester City sold off it's brownfield sites to Mansour for a fraction of the costs but you and Bozo are the rational ones.
Just a joke really.
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The land was practically worthless, that's why some of it had been derelict for decades.
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And you thinking there was more uproar from Mansour buying shares in Barclays stopping them from being nationalised than there was him buying city doesn’t suggest you’re an honest actor in this yourself
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Where's the criminal court cases over the purchase of Manchester City then?
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No some might just be capable of rational thought and realise that them buying City has sod all to do with any of the rest of the UKs relations with the UAE.
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Yes mate, there's conclusive evidence showing that Manchester City sold off it's brownfield sites to Mansour for a fraction of the costs but you and Bozo are the rational ones.
Just a joke really.
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The land was practically worthless, that's why some of it had been derelict for decades.
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Just make up more stuff
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No some might just be capable of rational thought and realise that them buying City has sod all to do with any of the rest of the UKs relations with the UAE.
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Yes mate, there's conclusive evidence showing that Manchester City sold off it's brownfield sites to Mansour for a fraction of the costs but you and Bozo are the rational ones.
Just a joke really.
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The land was practically worthless, that's why some of it had been derelict for decades.
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Just make up more stuff
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Ffs, I have driven past it nearly every day for the last 12 years.
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Ffs, I have driven past it nearly every day for the last 12 years.
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Then you'll know the nearby plots when sold off weren't worthless won't you
You are just full of nonsense
The complex will transform an area of polluted industrial wasteland and much thought has been given to its own environmental impact. Around 2,000 trees will be planted and all rain water within its boundaries will be collected in huge underground tanks to be used elsewhere on site.
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11679/8076615/manchester-city-ready-to-begin-building-new-academy-and-training-ground
Yes a 2012 report from sky
Here, try a 2022 academic report from Sheffield University which conclusively shows you're full of the brown stuff
https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/management/news/manchester-offshored-new-report-sheffield-university-management-school-and-university-sheffield
Although initially expected to be re-used for housing, the site remained undeveloped for a number of years afterwards. Then in 2012, City Football Group (CFG) announced that they would be building a world-class training and academy complex for all Manchester City men's, women's and youth football teams; a new 7,000 capacity academy stadium; an institute of sport; a sixth form college and their new global operational HQ on the site and its surrounding area, which would accompany the City of Manchester Stadium which opened opposite the site in 2002. These new facilities opened in December 2014 after two years of land remediation and construction work.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clayton_Aniline_Company
The authors said, "the council has its own soul-searching to do on the ethics of its relationship with Abu Dhabi United Group. Given the contentious nature of this development, it was all the more important to be open about its economics. From the limited information available in the public domain - this looks like a bad deal for the council and its citizens. If you're comfortable taking the reputational risk, you should be sure to get the best price."
But Bozo drives past it every day so he knows
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And you thinking there was more uproar from Mansour buying shares in Barclays stopping them from being nationalised than there was him buying city doesn’t suggest you’re an honest actor in this yourself
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Where's the criminal court cases over the purchase of Manchester City then?
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Where’s the criminal court case over Mansours investment in Barclays?! You might want to do a bit of reading and realise you’ve both got the wrong country there and also who was actually accused between them and Barclays …
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posted 48 seconds ago
Yes a 2012 report from sky
Here, try a 2022 academic report from Sheffield University which conclusively shows you're full of the brown stuff
https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/management/news/manchester-offshored-new-report-sheffield-university-management-school-and-university-sheffield
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That's Ancoats you clown.
The only thing you've convinced me of so far apart from being a wum is that you have no knowledge of inner Manchester.
"As one of the rulers of an autocratic kingdom that has an appalling reputation for repression and an addiction to oil revenues, Sheikh Mansour stood to gain so much from this partnership. It was the council that held almost all the cards: the hectares of publicly owned land, the planning regime, the public subsidies. Yet somehow, according to new research shared exclusively today with the Guardian and authored by academics at Sheffield University, it was Sheikh Mansour who pocketed almost all the winnings. The report says that nine sites were sold to the sheikh at a fraction of their value, and well below what other plots nearby fetched (the council says it used independent experts using standard valuations, although it won’t give any more details). They were on leases lasting 999 years, well beyond the norm. And the fund shifted what had been public assets to companies registered in Jersey."
Keep digging this hole bozo
Let's move on to Everton and their tax dodging owner.
Was it worth the City of Liverpool losing their World Heritage status to build a new stadium on an historic site?
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Where’s the criminal court case over Mansours investment in Barclays?! You might want to do a bit of reading and realise you’ve both got the wrong country there and also who was actually accused between them and Barclays …
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Or maybe you should stop be disingenous, both Qatar and Abu Dhabi were part of the investment that people had to go to court for authorising
There was also a big civil case against PCP too for the same thing.
Once again where are the court cases over the sale of Manchester City exactly?
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posted 4 minutes ago
Let's move on to Everton and their tax dodging owner.
Was it worth the City of Liverpool losing their World Heritage status to build a new stadium on an historic site?
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Yeah try do do some whatabouttery now.
This is just daft now, the Gulf states including UAE have been investing huge sums of money recently while we've been selling them arms and not criticising their human rights records. Bojo did a big deal with the UAE but apparently politicians aren't subject to their influence, whatever.
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Nobody said that, they’re saying that buying City has fack all to do with that. The UK aren’t going to sell them arms because they bought City are they?
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Nobody said that, they’re saying that buying City has fack all to do with that. The UK aren’t going to sell them arms because they bought City are they?
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See again, bad faith. The UK aren't going to sell them arms because they bought City, what a tremendously set of stupid words to try and put in my mouth. You seem not to understand how the World works or something, trade increases gradually over time due to closening relationships with partners. If you buy a football club in another Country you have a closer relationship with that partner and they are more likely to turn a blind eye to your nefarious activities. No idea why anyone would try to deny this.
https://fairsq.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/FSQ_EASY-CITIES-TO-BUY_DIGITAL.pdf
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posted on 23/5/24
"UAE export overview
The United Arab Emirates (UAE) is the UK’s largest export market in the Middle East and the 13th biggest globally. The UK exported £9.8 billion of goods and services in 2016. This was a 37% increase since 2009. The UAE is the UK’s fourth largest export market outside the EU."
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So it made sense for ADUG to buy an English club as bi-lateral trading was commonplace?
posted on 23/5/24
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 4 minutes ago
Oh and not to mention in buying City Mansour has also been able to buy loads of land in East Manchester on the cheap. Was the former in order to do the latter?
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The pay-off was improved roads, new school and sports centre and loads of jobs for local people.
Manchester City Council did very well out of the deal.
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How to rehabilitate your reputation with a foreign government critical of your human rights record. Get friendly with a local council, buy land cheap, build schools and infrastructure.
Didn't our government do the same all over the world. It wasn't altruistic, it was about control, power and money.
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Our government have been courting investment from them and all over the Middle East for years before they bought a football club to be fair.
There’s a few slightly odd narratives going on here.
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What year did Mansour buy City?
"UAE export overview
The United Arab Emirates (UAE) is the UK’s largest export market in the Middle East and the 13th biggest globally. The UK exported £9.8 billion of goods and services in 2016. This was a 37% increase since 2009. The UAE is the UK’s fourth largest export market outside the EU."
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And who is that a benefit to…?! That’s exactly an example of that being more likely us courting them! Either way, the idea that that’s come about from them buying City and not from either the decades long partnership already in place or them buying up infrastructure and also stopping Barclays from being nationalised is ridiculous. Even the fact he’s sold stakes to China in City shows it’s a false narrative.
posted on 23/5/24
This is just daft now, the Gulf states including UAE have been investing huge sums of money recently while we've been selling them arms and not criticising their human rights records. Bojo did a big deal with the UAE but apparently politicians aren't subject to their influence, whatever.
It's obvious some of the fans of the club give not two single hoots and will come up with their own logic and reasoning for whatevers going on even though it's quite obvious
posted on 23/5/24
comment by Old_Evertonian (U23158)
posted 9 seconds ago
This is just daft now, the Gulf states including UAE have been investing huge sums of money recently while we've been selling them arms and not criticising their human rights records. Bojo did a big deal with the UAE but apparently politicians aren't subject to their influence, whatever.
It's obvious some of the fans of the club give not two single hoots and will come up with their own logic and reasoning for whatevers going on even though it's quite obvious
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No some might just be capable of rational thought and realise that them buying City has sod all to do with any of the rest of the UKs relations with the UAE.
And just for the record I’ll state I personally think the UAE’s human rights record is a stain on our club that I’ll never advocate or defend.
posted on 23/5/24
What are these Human Rights issues you are so vexed about?
Please stick to Abu Dhabi, not the whole Arabian Peninsula.
posted on 23/5/24
And you thinking there was more uproar from Mansour buying shares in Barclays stopping them from being nationalised than there was him buying city doesn’t suggest you’re an honest actor in this yourself
posted on 23/5/24
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No some might just be capable of rational thought and realise that them buying City has sod all to do with any of the rest of the UKs relations with the UAE.
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Yes mate, there's conclusive evidence showing that Manchester City sold off it's brownfield sites to Mansour for a fraction of the costs but you and Bozo are the rational ones.
Just a joke really.
posted on 23/5/24
as in Manchester City Council
posted on 23/5/24
comment by Old_Evertonian (U23158)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
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No some might just be capable of rational thought and realise that them buying City has sod all to do with any of the rest of the UKs relations with the UAE.
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Yes mate, there's conclusive evidence showing that Manchester City sold off it's brownfield sites to Mansour for a fraction of the costs but you and Bozo are the rational ones.
Just a joke really.
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The land was practically worthless, that's why some of it had been derelict for decades.
posted on 23/5/24
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 5 minutes ago
And you thinking there was more uproar from Mansour buying shares in Barclays stopping them from being nationalised than there was him buying city doesn’t suggest you’re an honest actor in this yourself
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Where's the criminal court cases over the purchase of Manchester City then?
posted on 23/5/24
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Old_Evertonian (U23158)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
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No some might just be capable of rational thought and realise that them buying City has sod all to do with any of the rest of the UKs relations with the UAE.
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Yes mate, there's conclusive evidence showing that Manchester City sold off it's brownfield sites to Mansour for a fraction of the costs but you and Bozo are the rational ones.
Just a joke really.
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The land was practically worthless, that's why some of it had been derelict for decades.
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Just make up more stuff
posted on 23/5/24
comment by Old_Evertonian (U23158)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Old_Evertonian (U23158)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
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No some might just be capable of rational thought and realise that them buying City has sod all to do with any of the rest of the UKs relations with the UAE.
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Yes mate, there's conclusive evidence showing that Manchester City sold off it's brownfield sites to Mansour for a fraction of the costs but you and Bozo are the rational ones.
Just a joke really.
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The land was practically worthless, that's why some of it had been derelict for decades.
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Just make up more stuff
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Ffs, I have driven past it nearly every day for the last 12 years.
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Just make up more stuff
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Ffs, I have driven past it nearly every day for the last 12 years.
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Then you'll know the nearby plots when sold off weren't worthless won't you
You are just full of nonsense
posted on 23/5/24
The complex will transform an area of polluted industrial wasteland and much thought has been given to its own environmental impact. Around 2,000 trees will be planted and all rain water within its boundaries will be collected in huge underground tanks to be used elsewhere on site.
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11679/8076615/manchester-city-ready-to-begin-building-new-academy-and-training-ground
posted on 23/5/24
Yes a 2012 report from sky
Here, try a 2022 academic report from Sheffield University which conclusively shows you're full of the brown stuff
https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/management/news/manchester-offshored-new-report-sheffield-university-management-school-and-university-sheffield
posted on 23/5/24
Although initially expected to be re-used for housing, the site remained undeveloped for a number of years afterwards. Then in 2012, City Football Group (CFG) announced that they would be building a world-class training and academy complex for all Manchester City men's, women's and youth football teams; a new 7,000 capacity academy stadium; an institute of sport; a sixth form college and their new global operational HQ on the site and its surrounding area, which would accompany the City of Manchester Stadium which opened opposite the site in 2002. These new facilities opened in December 2014 after two years of land remediation and construction work.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clayton_Aniline_Company
posted on 23/5/24
The authors said, "the council has its own soul-searching to do on the ethics of its relationship with Abu Dhabi United Group. Given the contentious nature of this development, it was all the more important to be open about its economics. From the limited information available in the public domain - this looks like a bad deal for the council and its citizens. If you're comfortable taking the reputational risk, you should be sure to get the best price."
But Bozo drives past it every day so he knows
posted on 23/5/24
comment by Old_Evertonian (U23158)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 5 minutes ago
And you thinking there was more uproar from Mansour buying shares in Barclays stopping them from being nationalised than there was him buying city doesn’t suggest you’re an honest actor in this yourself
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Where's the criminal court cases over the purchase of Manchester City then?
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Where’s the criminal court case over Mansours investment in Barclays?! You might want to do a bit of reading and realise you’ve both got the wrong country there and also who was actually accused between them and Barclays …
posted on 23/5/24
comment by Old_Evertonian (U23158)
posted 48 seconds ago
Yes a 2012 report from sky
Here, try a 2022 academic report from Sheffield University which conclusively shows you're full of the brown stuff
https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/management/news/manchester-offshored-new-report-sheffield-university-management-school-and-university-sheffield
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That's Ancoats you clown.
The only thing you've convinced me of so far apart from being a wum is that you have no knowledge of inner Manchester.
posted on 23/5/24
"As one of the rulers of an autocratic kingdom that has an appalling reputation for repression and an addiction to oil revenues, Sheikh Mansour stood to gain so much from this partnership. It was the council that held almost all the cards: the hectares of publicly owned land, the planning regime, the public subsidies. Yet somehow, according to new research shared exclusively today with the Guardian and authored by academics at Sheffield University, it was Sheikh Mansour who pocketed almost all the winnings. The report says that nine sites were sold to the sheikh at a fraction of their value, and well below what other plots nearby fetched (the council says it used independent experts using standard valuations, although it won’t give any more details). They were on leases lasting 999 years, well beyond the norm. And the fund shifted what had been public assets to companies registered in Jersey."
Keep digging this hole bozo
posted on 23/5/24
Let's move on to Everton and their tax dodging owner.
Was it worth the City of Liverpool losing their World Heritage status to build a new stadium on an historic site?
posted on 23/5/24
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
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Where’s the criminal court case over Mansours investment in Barclays?! You might want to do a bit of reading and realise you’ve both got the wrong country there and also who was actually accused between them and Barclays …
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Or maybe you should stop be disingenous, both Qatar and Abu Dhabi were part of the investment that people had to go to court for authorising
There was also a big civil case against PCP too for the same thing.
Once again where are the court cases over the sale of Manchester City exactly?
posted on 23/5/24
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 4 minutes ago
Let's move on to Everton and their tax dodging owner.
Was it worth the City of Liverpool losing their World Heritage status to build a new stadium on an historic site?
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Yeah try do do some whatabouttery now.
posted on 23/5/24
This is just daft now, the Gulf states including UAE have been investing huge sums of money recently while we've been selling them arms and not criticising their human rights records. Bojo did a big deal with the UAE but apparently politicians aren't subject to their influence, whatever.
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Nobody said that, they’re saying that buying City has fack all to do with that. The UK aren’t going to sell them arms because they bought City are they?
posted on 23/5/24
comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
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Nobody said that, they’re saying that buying City has fack all to do with that. The UK aren’t going to sell them arms because they bought City are they?
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See again, bad faith. The UK aren't going to sell them arms because they bought City, what a tremendously set of stupid words to try and put in my mouth. You seem not to understand how the World works or something, trade increases gradually over time due to closening relationships with partners. If you buy a football club in another Country you have a closer relationship with that partner and they are more likely to turn a blind eye to your nefarious activities. No idea why anyone would try to deny this.
https://fairsq.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/FSQ_EASY-CITIES-TO-BUY_DIGITAL.pdf
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