comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 14 seconds ago
Southgate fans - "Best England manager ever"
Also Southgate fans - "Wouldn't want him anywhere near my club"
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It’s almost as if Tournament football and club football are two different beasts
Great take Spurtle
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But he's doing such a great job in galvanising the team, making the players fight for him, getting to semis and finals in cup competitions....why wouldn't you be ok with him managing your club?
Spain are of course favourites and are unbelievable, but Sir Gareth deserves huge praise - post him we will go back to being a quarter final team.
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I don't actually agree with this. I think there are plenty of managers who could achieve things with England going forward. Aside from the luck Southgate's had, to me it seems like England are producing more talented players than they used to. We started getting kids to play on smaller size pitches only recently and this is probably helping matters.
Give the next manager 4 goes at it and I reckon he'd have as much chance of winning anything than Southgate. They might not consistently get the same luck Southgate's had but at least one of those times out of 4 I reckon things would come together nicely.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 14 seconds ago
Southgate fans - "Best England manager ever"
Also Southgate fans - "Wouldn't want him anywhere near my club"
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It’s almost as if Tournament football and club football are two different beasts
Great take Spurtle
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But he's doing such a great job in galvanising the team, making the players fight for him, getting to semis and finals in cup competitions....why wouldn't you be ok with him managing your club?
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A 4 week tournament played every 2 years is different to 9 months of club football.
England aren’t entertaining - but who cares, 2 finals in 4 tournaments.
Spurs tried that with Conte and the whine from our fans was extraordinary. We are back to being very attacking, completely open at the back and playing Europa league - but the majority of the fans seem happy.
Like I said - Great take Spurtle
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 10 minutes ago
Spain are of course favourites and are unbelievable, but Sir Gareth deserves huge praise - post him we will go back to being a quarter final team.
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I don't actually agree with this. I think there are plenty of managers who could achieve things with England going forward. Aside from the luck Southgate's had, to me it seems like England are producing more talented players than they used to. We started getting kids to play on smaller size pitches only recently and this is probably helping matters.
Give the next manager 4 goes at it and I reckon he'd have as much chance of winning anything than Southgate. They might not consistently get the same luck Southgate's had but at least one of those times out of 4 I reckon things would come together nicely.
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Sure - easy to say isn’t it
Meanwhile here we are with our second greatest manager ever - why replace him? “Because it’s boooorring” it’s honestly pathetic and I agree with Jock saying some of our fans are arrogant - this is the height of arrogance.
“He’s lucky” - people acting like that’s a crime, what if the next manager is way more entertaining but not lucky and we pull off a Scotland in repeated tournaments - would that be better.
Euros final on Sunday, second on the bounce and some still aren’t satisfied, it’s insane, shut up and have a solero
comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 14 seconds ago
Southgate fans - "Best England manager ever"
Also Southgate fans - "Wouldn't want him anywhere near my club"
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It’s almost as if Tournament football and club football are two different beasts
Great take Spurtle
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But he's doing such a great job in galvanising the team, making the players fight for him, getting to semis and finals in cup competitions....why wouldn't you be ok with him managing your club?
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A 4 week tournament played every 2 years is different to 9 months of club football.
England aren’t entertaining - but who cares, 2 finals in 4 tournaments.
Spurs tried that with Conte and the whine from our fans was extraordinary. We are back to being very attacking, completely open at the back and playing Europa league - but the majority of the fans seem happy.
Like I said - Great take Spurtle
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Could that be because there is more luck involved in cup competitions than there is in a league campaign? Hmmm
If you want to rate him you go ahead. I think he did well yesterday but he's still an average manager.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 14 seconds ago
Southgate fans - "Best England manager ever"
Also Southgate fans - "Wouldn't want him anywhere near my club"
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It’s almost as if Tournament football and club football are two different beasts
Great take Spurtle
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But he's doing such a great job in galvanising the team, making the players fight for him, getting to semis and finals in cup competitions....why wouldn't you be ok with him managing your club?
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A 4 week tournament played every 2 years is different to 9 months of club football.
England aren’t entertaining - but who cares, 2 finals in 4 tournaments.
Spurs tried that with Conte and the whine from our fans was extraordinary. We are back to being very attacking, completely open at the back and playing Europa league - but the majority of the fans seem happy.
Like I said - Great take Spurtle
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Could that be because there is more luck involved in cup competitions than there is in a league campaign? Hmmm
If you want to rate him you go ahead. I think he did well yesterday but he's still an average manager.
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Of course there is more luck - but there is no league competition in international football, so who cares.
It’s horses for courses, Gareth can be both the right man for England and the wrong man for Spurs/Arsenal, etc
Your take on this is monumentally stupid, I wouldn’t want Deschamps managing my club or Otto Rehhagel, or whoever manages the Georgian team.
comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 10 minutes ago
Spain are of course favourites and are unbelievable, but Sir Gareth deserves huge praise - post him we will go back to being a quarter final team.
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I don't actually agree with this. I think there are plenty of managers who could achieve things with England going forward. Aside from the luck Southgate's had, to me it seems like England are producing more talented players than they used to. We started getting kids to play on smaller size pitches only recently and this is probably helping matters.
Give the next manager 4 goes at it and I reckon he'd have as much chance of winning anything than Southgate. They might not consistently get the same luck Southgate's had but at least one of those times out of 4 I reckon things would come together nicely.
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Sure - easy to say isn’t it
Meanwhile here we are with our second greatest manager ever - why replace him? “Because it’s boooorring” it’s honestly pathetic and I agree with Jock saying some of our fans are arrogant - this is the height of arrogance.
“He’s lucky” - people acting like that’s a crime, what if the next manager is way more entertaining but not lucky and we pull off a Scotland in repeated tournaments - would that be better.
Euros final on Sunday, second on the bounce and some still aren’t satisfied, it’s insane, shut up and have a solero
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It's all very well and good that he has got to finals and semi finals but if he doesn't win on Sunday and we ultimately won't have ended up winning anything under him in 4 goes where we've been close, then should that not be partly at least, considered failure? There should be a change of management in that scenario but I want to see a change regardless. I want to see what a more progressive coach can do with these players.
It wouldn't be much of a stretch to suggest a new coach having this bunch of talented players could qualify out of another comfortable qualifying group and do well in a tournament where we can avoid most of the big teams, is it?
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 10 minutes ago
Spain are of course favourites and are unbelievable, but Sir Gareth deserves huge praise - post him we will go back to being a quarter final team.
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I don't actually agree with this. I think there are plenty of managers who could achieve things with England going forward. Aside from the luck Southgate's had, to me it seems like England are producing more talented players than they used to. We started getting kids to play on smaller size pitches only recently and this is probably helping matters.
Give the next manager 4 goes at it and I reckon he'd have as much chance of winning anything than Southgate. They might not consistently get the same luck Southgate's had but at least one of those times out of 4 I reckon things would come together nicely.
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Sure - easy to say isn’t it
Meanwhile here we are with our second greatest manager ever - why replace him? “Because it’s boooorring” it’s honestly pathetic and I agree with Jock saying some of our fans are arrogant - this is the height of arrogance.
“He’s lucky” - people acting like that’s a crime, what if the next manager is way more entertaining but not lucky and we pull off a Scotland in repeated tournaments - would that be better.
Euros final on Sunday, second on the bounce and some still aren’t satisfied, it’s insane, shut up and have a solero
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It's all very well and good that he has got to finals and semi finals but if he doesn't win on Sunday and we ultimately won't have ended up winning anything under him in 4 goes where we've been close, then should that not be partly at least, considered failure? There should be a change of management in that scenario but I want to see a change regardless. I want to see what a more progressive coach can do with these players.
It wouldn't be much of a stretch to suggest a new coach having this bunch of talented players could qualify out of another comfortable qualifying group and do well in a tournament where we can avoid most of the big teams, is it?
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Which manager? Top managers want clubs, the next bracket down international sides. Italy went with Spalletti - a top manager, with a squad that entered the tournament as the holders and they were faaacking woeful.
I don’t want Wizard managing our country, he is and in my opinion always has been schitt.
I’d prefer to win Sunday and say to Gareth - we’re at home in 2028 - let’s see if you can make more history and get us to a 3rd successive final.
Unfortunately, England fans seem to be in the last season of Poch faze - gets us to a CL final after spending faaack all the previous summer but fans want change and Levy loves pulling the trigger.
Why does no one have patience anymore? It took Joachim Low 5 tournaments and Germany haven’t recovered from him going despite having Nagelsmann in charge this time round.
Basically - Faaack off to your suggestion
comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 10 minutes ago
Spain are of course favourites and are unbelievable, but Sir Gareth deserves huge praise - post him we will go back to being a quarter final team.
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I don't actually agree with this. I think there are plenty of managers who could achieve things with England going forward. Aside from the luck Southgate's had, to me it seems like England are producing more talented players than they used to. We started getting kids to play on smaller size pitches only recently and this is probably helping matters.
Give the next manager 4 goes at it and I reckon he'd have as much chance of winning anything than Southgate. They might not consistently get the same luck Southgate's had but at least one of those times out of 4 I reckon things would come together nicely.
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Sure - easy to say isn’t it
Meanwhile here we are with our second greatest manager ever - why replace him? “Because it’s boooorring” it’s honestly pathetic and I agree with Jock saying some of our fans are arrogant - this is the height of arrogance.
“He’s lucky” - people acting like that’s a crime, what if the next manager is way more entertaining but not lucky and we pull off a Scotland in repeated tournaments - would that be better.
Euros final on Sunday, second on the bounce and some still aren’t satisfied, it’s insane, shut up and have a solero
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It's all very well and good that he has got to finals and semi finals but if he doesn't win on Sunday and we ultimately won't have ended up winning anything under him in 4 goes where we've been close, then should that not be partly at least, considered failure? There should be a change of management in that scenario but I want to see a change regardless. I want to see what a more progressive coach can do with these players.
It wouldn't be much of a stretch to suggest a new coach having this bunch of talented players could qualify out of another comfortable qualifying group and do well in a tournament where we can avoid most of the big teams, is it?
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Which manager? Top managers want clubs, the next bracket down international sides. Italy went with Spalletti - a top manager, with a squad that entered the tournament as the holders and they were faaacking woeful.
I don’t want Wizard managing our country, he is and in my opinion always has been schitt.
I’d prefer to win Sunday and say to Gareth - we’re at home in 2028 - let’s see if you can make more history and get us to a 3rd successive final.
Unfortunately, England fans seem to be in the last season of Poch faze - gets us to a CL final after spending faaack all the previous summer but fans want change and Levy loves pulling the trigger.
Why does no one have patience anymore? It took Joachim Low 5 tournaments and Germany haven’t recovered from him going despite having Nagelsmann in charge this time round.
Basically - Faaack off to your suggestion
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Potter, Howe....why could they not do as well as Southgate? Why is Southgate the very best we could get? I'll be honest, he's done better than most of us thought when we first appointed him and if that is someone who most thought was an average manager who may not be a winner (we'll find out after Sunday) then why couldn't others who are deemed a bit better at club level achieve with England?
"Unfortunately, England fans seem to be in the last season of Poch faze - gets us to a CL final after spending faaack all the previous summer but fans want change and Levy loves pulling the trigger."
What was that about not comparing club management to international management? Great take mate.
comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 49 seconds ago
I don't see Spain as the clear favourites people are making out.
Yes, they've been the form team in this tournament, but England finally seem to have got themselves sorted positionally, they have better players and depth overall, and they have the experience at this stage of big tournaments that Spain don't.
Experience and individual quality are huge factors at this level, which makes England slight favourites for a game that on paper is very hard to call.
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Bookies have Spain as favourites - so the general public is clearly thinking Spain are faves
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Good for them. I'm of a different opinion.
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 49 seconds ago
I don't see Spain as the clear favourites people are making out.
Yes, they've been the form team in this tournament, but England finally seem to have got themselves sorted positionally, they have better players and depth overall, and they have the experience at this stage of big tournaments that Spain don't.
Experience and individual quality are huge factors at this level, which makes England slight favourites for a game that on paper is very hard to call.
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Bookies have Spain as favourites - so the general public is clearly thinking Spain are faves
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Good for them. I'm of a different opinion.
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No problem with that
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 10 minutes ago
Spain are of course favourites and are unbelievable, but Sir Gareth deserves huge praise - post him we will go back to being a quarter final team.
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I don't actually agree with this. I think there are plenty of managers who could achieve things with England going forward. Aside from the luck Southgate's had, to me it seems like England are producing more talented players than they used to. We started getting kids to play on smaller size pitches only recently and this is probably helping matters.
Give the next manager 4 goes at it and I reckon he'd have as much chance of winning anything than Southgate. They might not consistently get the same luck Southgate's had but at least one of those times out of 4 I reckon things would come together nicely.
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Sure - easy to say isn’t it
Meanwhile here we are with our second greatest manager ever - why replace him? “Because it’s boooorring” it’s honestly pathetic and I agree with Jock saying some of our fans are arrogant - this is the height of arrogance.
“He’s lucky” - people acting like that’s a crime, what if the next manager is way more entertaining but not lucky and we pull off a Scotland in repeated tournaments - would that be better.
Euros final on Sunday, second on the bounce and some still aren’t satisfied, it’s insane, shut up and have a solero
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It's all very well and good that he has got to finals and semi finals but if he doesn't win on Sunday and we ultimately won't have ended up winning anything under him in 4 goes where we've been close, then should that not be partly at least, considered failure? There should be a change of management in that scenario but I want to see a change regardless. I want to see what a more progressive coach can do with these players.
It wouldn't be much of a stretch to suggest a new coach having this bunch of talented players could qualify out of another comfortable qualifying group and do well in a tournament where we can avoid most of the big teams, is it?
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Which manager? Top managers want clubs, the next bracket down international sides. Italy went with Spalletti - a top manager, with a squad that entered the tournament as the holders and they were faaacking woeful.
I don’t want Wizard managing our country, he is and in my opinion always has been schitt.
I’d prefer to win Sunday and say to Gareth - we’re at home in 2028 - let’s see if you can make more history and get us to a 3rd successive final.
Unfortunately, England fans seem to be in the last season of Poch faze - gets us to a CL final after spending faaack all the previous summer but fans want change and Levy loves pulling the trigger.
Why does no one have patience anymore? It took Joachim Low 5 tournaments and Germany haven’t recovered from him going despite having Nagelsmann in charge this time round.
Basically - Faaack off to your suggestion
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Potter, Howe....why could they not do as well as Southgate? Why is Southgate the very best we could get? I'll be honest, he's done better than most of us thought when we first appointed him and if that is someone who most thought was an average manager who may not be a winner (we'll find out after Sunday) then why couldn't others who are deemed a bit better at club level achieve with England?
"Unfortunately, England fans seem to be in the last season of Poch faze - gets us to a CL final after spending faaack all the previous summer but fans want change and Levy loves pulling the trigger."
What was that about not comparing club management to international management? Great take mate.
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It’s a coin flip though, what has Howe or Potter won in their career? I think it’s one Swedish cup between them and 1 League cup final loss - this is what I do t understand, why is their clamour to remove a man who’s worst performance at a tournament was getting beaten narrowly by France in a quarter final only to replace them with a manager who is demonstrably not better than what we have.
If Pep said he wanted the England job then it would be a different story, Howe and Wizard can get in the bin
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
Southgate fans - "Best England manager ever"
Also Southgate fans - "Wouldn't want him anywhere near my club"
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Spurtle
Won't have it Strike, everything we do this tournament is in spite of Southgate, not because of him.
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
Southgate fans - "Best England manager ever"
Also Southgate fans - "Wouldn't want him anywhere near my club"
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Spurtle
Won't have it Strike, everything we do this tournament is in spite of Southgate, not because of him.
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It’s a stupid argument, so I’m not surprised you agree with it Neo
All these things can be true:
- Southgate's contribution to English football has been extremely high. So much of the work behind the scenes to detoxify the squad, to create an atmosphere where players can play as a unit, and to get the fans back on side - coming from a place of chaos beforehand - is overlooked, and is a big part of the current performances.
- The England fans throwing stuff at Southgate and booing him, when we're still in the competition, are idiots. He doesn't deserve that.
- The criticism of Southgate's system, his slowness in making a change to the system and his reluctance to make subs earlier in the game has been vindicated - his detractors were right, and Gareth had made some big mistakes that he was slow to rectify.
- If we win on Sunday, Southgate will be a big reason why we've won and a legend of the English game.
Southgrate donet pleigh all the genetashanul talent attackets all at once n respecks qualities of oponant so he is sheet
comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
Southgate fans - "Best England manager ever"
Also Southgate fans - "Wouldn't want him anywhere near my club"
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Spurtle
Won't have it Strike, everything we do this tournament is in spite of Southgate, not because of him.
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It’s a stupid argument, so I’m not surprised you agree with it Neo
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comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 10 minutes ago
Spain are of course favourites and are unbelievable, but Sir Gareth deserves huge praise - post him we will go back to being a quarter final team.
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I don't actually agree with this. I think there are plenty of managers who could achieve things with England going forward. Aside from the luck Southgate's had, to me it seems like England are producing more talented players than they used to. We started getting kids to play on smaller size pitches only recently and this is probably helping matters.
Give the next manager 4 goes at it and I reckon he'd have as much chance of winning anything than Southgate. They might not consistently get the same luck Southgate's had but at least one of those times out of 4 I reckon things would come together nicely.
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Sure - easy to say isn’t it
Meanwhile here we are with our second greatest manager ever - why replace him? “Because it’s boooorring” it’s honestly pathetic and I agree with Jock saying some of our fans are arrogant - this is the height of arrogance.
“He’s lucky” - people acting like that’s a crime, what if the next manager is way more entertaining but not lucky and we pull off a Scotland in repeated tournaments - would that be better.
Euros final on Sunday, second on the bounce and some still aren’t satisfied, it’s insane, shut up and have a solero
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It's all very well and good that he has got to finals and semi finals but if he doesn't win on Sunday and we ultimately won't have ended up winning anything under him in 4 goes where we've been close, then should that not be partly at least, considered failure? There should be a change of management in that scenario but I want to see a change regardless. I want to see what a more progressive coach can do with these players.
It wouldn't be much of a stretch to suggest a new coach having this bunch of talented players could qualify out of another comfortable qualifying group and do well in a tournament where we can avoid most of the big teams, is it?
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Which manager? Top managers want clubs, the next bracket down international sides. Italy went with Spalletti - a top manager, with a squad that entered the tournament as the holders and they were faaacking woeful.
I don’t want Wizard managing our country, he is and in my opinion always has been schitt.
I’d prefer to win Sunday and say to Gareth - we’re at home in 2028 - let’s see if you can make more history and get us to a 3rd successive final.
Unfortunately, England fans seem to be in the last season of Poch faze - gets us to a CL final after spending faaack all the previous summer but fans want change and Levy loves pulling the trigger.
Why does no one have patience anymore? It took Joachim Low 5 tournaments and Germany haven’t recovered from him going despite having Nagelsmann in charge this time round.
Basically - Faaack off to your suggestion
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Potter, Howe....why could they not do as well as Southgate? Why is Southgate the very best we could get? I'll be honest, he's done better than most of us thought when we first appointed him and if that is someone who most thought was an average manager who may not be a winner (we'll find out after Sunday) then why couldn't others who are deemed a bit better at club level achieve with England?
"Unfortunately, England fans seem to be in the last season of Poch faze - gets us to a CL final after spending faaack all the previous summer but fans want change and Levy loves pulling the trigger."
What was that about not comparing club management to international management? Great take mate.
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It’s a coin flip though, what has Howe or Potter won in their career? I think it’s one Swedish cup between them and 1 League cup final loss - this is what I do t understand, why is their clamour to remove a man who’s worst performance at a tournament was getting beaten narrowly by France in a quarter final only to replace them with a manager who is demonstrably not better than what we have.
If Pep said he wanted the England job then it would be a different story, Howe and Wizard can get in the bin
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Talking of Pep, didn't he say that Potter was the best English manager around?
You say he or Howe would be no better than we've got with Southgate but how do you know? If he doesn't win on Sunday, who is to say they couldn't? Who is to say they couldn't have got us over the line against Croatia or Italy? Would they have let us sit back in games when we take leads, and make subs late on?
They've done more at club level and at least they are more progressive in their approach to football. I want to see England go for it more often, not just in certain spells. A lot of the football has been dire and tactics negative.
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 1 minute ago
Southgrate donet pleigh all the genetashanul talent attackets all at once n respecks qualities of oponant so he is sheet
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Yep. It’s English arrogance.
So……….
Would YOU want him managing YOUR club?
Win or lose on Sunday, Southgate has done a tremendous job. People say we should be winning tournaments with the players we have and maybe we should and possibly a better manager would have but he took over in 2016 from the horrible 'Big Sam' and not long after the dreadful 2016 Euros, where we were beaten by Iceland in 2016. Two years later, world cup semis.
40 years prior to that we hadn't qualified for two world cups on the trot, had two reasonably successful tournaments in 1990 and 1996 and amongst that failed to qualify for Euro 84, world cup 94 and Euro 2008.
The nearest we have come to winning, bar 90 and 96 was Euro 2004. With Rooney, who knows?
In 8 years we have seen two Euro finals, a world cup semi and a quarter final when we lost to a very good French team.
After years of disappointment and heartache, I'm loving this Southgate period.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 10 minutes ago
Spain are of course favourites and are unbelievable, but Sir Gareth deserves huge praise - post him we will go back to being a quarter final team.
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I don't actually agree with this. I think there are plenty of managers who could achieve things with England going forward. Aside from the luck Southgate's had, to me it seems like England are producing more talented players than they used to. We started getting kids to play on smaller size pitches only recently and this is probably helping matters.
Give the next manager 4 goes at it and I reckon he'd have as much chance of winning anything than Southgate. They might not consistently get the same luck Southgate's had but at least one of those times out of 4 I reckon things would come together nicely.
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Sure - easy to say isn’t it
Meanwhile here we are with our second greatest manager ever - why replace him? “Because it’s boooorring” it’s honestly pathetic and I agree with Jock saying some of our fans are arrogant - this is the height of arrogance.
“He’s lucky” - people acting like that’s a crime, what if the next manager is way more entertaining but not lucky and we pull off a Scotland in repeated tournaments - would that be better.
Euros final on Sunday, second on the bounce and some still aren’t satisfied, it’s insane, shut up and have a solero
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It's all very well and good that he has got to finals and semi finals but if he doesn't win on Sunday and we ultimately won't have ended up winning anything under him in 4 goes where we've been close, then should that not be partly at least, considered failure? There should be a change of management in that scenario but I want to see a change regardless. I want to see what a more progressive coach can do with these players.
It wouldn't be much of a stretch to suggest a new coach having this bunch of talented players could qualify out of another comfortable qualifying group and do well in a tournament where we can avoid most of the big teams, is it?
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Which manager? Top managers want clubs, the next bracket down international sides. Italy went with Spalletti - a top manager, with a squad that entered the tournament as the holders and they were faaacking woeful.
I don’t want Wizard managing our country, he is and in my opinion always has been schitt.
I’d prefer to win Sunday and say to Gareth - we’re at home in 2028 - let’s see if you can make more history and get us to a 3rd successive final.
Unfortunately, England fans seem to be in the last season of Poch faze - gets us to a CL final after spending faaack all the previous summer but fans want change and Levy loves pulling the trigger.
Why does no one have patience anymore? It took Joachim Low 5 tournaments and Germany haven’t recovered from him going despite having Nagelsmann in charge this time round.
Basically - Faaack off to your suggestion
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Potter, Howe....why could they not do as well as Southgate? Why is Southgate the very best we could get? I'll be honest, he's done better than most of us thought when we first appointed him and if that is someone who most thought was an average manager who may not be a winner (we'll find out after Sunday) then why couldn't others who are deemed a bit better at club level achieve with England?
"Unfortunately, England fans seem to be in the last season of Poch faze - gets us to a CL final after spending faaack all the previous summer but fans want change and Levy loves pulling the trigger."
What was that about not comparing club management to international management? Great take mate.
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It’s a coin flip though, what has Howe or Potter won in their career? I think it’s one Swedish cup between them and 1 League cup final loss - this is what I do t understand, why is their clamour to remove a man who’s worst performance at a tournament was getting beaten narrowly by France in a quarter final only to replace them with a manager who is demonstrably not better than what we have.
If Pep said he wanted the England job then it would be a different story, Howe and Wizard can get in the bin
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Talking of Pep, didn't he say that Potter was the best English manager around?
You say he or Howe would be no better than we've got with Southgate but how do you know? If he doesn't win on Sunday, who is to say they couldn't? Who is to say they couldn't have got us over the line against Croatia or Italy? Would they have let us sit back in games when we take leads, and make subs late on?
They've done more at club level and at least they are more progressive in their approach to football. I want to see England go for it more often, not just in certain spells. A lot of the football has been dire and tactics negative.
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Yep this. Second half of yesterday was classic Southgate- we had dominated the first half but Southgate's negative tactics put us on the backfoot once again. VVD gets a half volley while completely unmarked and hits it straight at Pickford- another day he scores that chance and its a different story completely.
Southgate is lucky and that's about it if we're being honest. I imagine a silly premier league team will take a chance on him, and I look forward to him being exposed.
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Spain are of course favourites and are unbelievable, but Sir Gareth deserves huge praise - post him we will go back to being a quarter final team.
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I don't actually agree with this. I think there are plenty of managers who could achieve things with England going forward. Aside from the luck Southgate's had, to me it seems like England are producing more talented players than they used to. We started getting kids to play on smaller size pitches only recently and this is probably helping matters.
Give the next manager 4 goes at it and I reckon he'd have as much chance of winning anything than Southgate. They might not consistently get the same luck Southgate's had but at least one of those times out of 4 I reckon things would come together nicely.
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Sure - easy to say isn’t it
Meanwhile here we are with our second greatest manager ever - why replace him? “Because it’s boooorring” it’s honestly pathetic and I agree with Jock saying some of our fans are arrogant - this is the height of arrogance.
“He’s lucky” - people acting like that’s a crime, what if the next manager is way more entertaining but not lucky and we pull off a Scotland in repeated tournaments - would that be better.
Euros final on Sunday, second on the bounce and some still aren’t satisfied, it’s insane, shut up and have a solero
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It's all very well and good that he has got to finals and semi finals but if he doesn't win on Sunday and we ultimately won't have ended up winning anything under him in 4 goes where we've been close, then should that not be partly at least, considered failure? There should be a change of management in that scenario but I want to see a change regardless. I want to see what a more progressive coach can do with these players.
It wouldn't be much of a stretch to suggest a new coach having this bunch of talented players could qualify out of another comfortable qualifying group and do well in a tournament where we can avoid most of the big teams, is it?
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Which manager? Top managers want clubs, the next bracket down international sides. Italy went with Spalletti - a top manager, with a squad that entered the tournament as the holders and they were faaacking woeful.
I don’t want Wizard managing our country, he is and in my opinion always has been schitt.
I’d prefer to win Sunday and say to Gareth - we’re at home in 2028 - let’s see if you can make more history and get us to a 3rd successive final.
Unfortunately, England fans seem to be in the last season of Poch faze - gets us to a CL final after spending faaack all the previous summer but fans want change and Levy loves pulling the trigger.
Why does no one have patience anymore? It took Joachim Low 5 tournaments and Germany haven’t recovered from him going despite having Nagelsmann in charge this time round.
Basically - Faaack off to your suggestion
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Potter, Howe....why could they not do as well as Southgate? Why is Southgate the very best we could get? I'll be honest, he's done better than most of us thought when we first appointed him and if that is someone who most thought was an average manager who may not be a winner (we'll find out after Sunday) then why couldn't others who are deemed a bit better at club level achieve with England?
"Unfortunately, England fans seem to be in the last season of Poch faze - gets us to a CL final after spending faaack all the previous summer but fans want change and Levy loves pulling the trigger."
What was that about not comparing club management to international management? Great take mate.
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It’s a coin flip though, what has Howe or Potter won in their career? I think it’s one Swedish cup between them and 1 League cup final loss - this is what I do t understand, why is their clamour to remove a man who’s worst performance at a tournament was getting beaten narrowly by France in a quarter final only to replace them with a manager who is demonstrably not better than what we have.
If Pep said he wanted the England job then it would be a different story, Howe and Wizard can get in the bin
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Talking of Pep, didn't he say that Potter was the best English manager around?
You say he or Howe would be no better than we've got with Southgate but how do you know? If he doesn't win on Sunday, who is to say they couldn't? Who is to say they couldn't have got us over the line against Croatia or Italy? Would they have let us sit back in games when we take leads, and make subs late on?
They've done more at club level and at least they are more progressive in their approach to football. I want to see England go for it more often, not just in certain spells. A lot of the football has been dire and tactics negative.
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Yep this. Second half of yesterday was classic Southgate- we had dominated the first half but Southgate's negative tactics put us on the backfoot once again. VVD gets a half volley while completely unmarked and hits it straight at Pickford- another day he scores that chance and its a different story completely.
Southgate is lucky and that's about it if we're being honest. I imagine a silly premier league team will take a chance on him, and I look forward to him being exposed.
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There may even be some Man United fans out there praying we lose on Sunday.
Mourinho got so much furrrking shiiit from Spurs fans for boring performances but reached a final in only a year into the job - was denied a trophy by the trigger happy Levy.
Southgate reaches a final and is a furrrking hero. Go figure.
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Mourinho got so much furrrking shiiit from Spurs fans for boring performances but reached a final in only a year into the job - was denied a trophy by the trigger happy Levy.
Southgate reaches a final and is a furrrking hero. Go figure.
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Southgate fans - "Best England manager ever"
Also Southgate fans - "Wouldn't want him anywhere near my club"
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It’s almost as if Tournament football and club football are two different beasts
Great take Spurtle
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But he's doing such a great job in galvanising the team, making the players fight for him, getting to semis and finals in cup competitions....why wouldn't you be ok with him managing your club?
posted on 11/7/24
Spain are of course favourites and are unbelievable, but Sir Gareth deserves huge praise - post him we will go back to being a quarter final team.
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I don't actually agree with this. I think there are plenty of managers who could achieve things with England going forward. Aside from the luck Southgate's had, to me it seems like England are producing more talented players than they used to. We started getting kids to play on smaller size pitches only recently and this is probably helping matters.
Give the next manager 4 goes at it and I reckon he'd have as much chance of winning anything than Southgate. They might not consistently get the same luck Southgate's had but at least one of those times out of 4 I reckon things would come together nicely.
posted on 11/7/24
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posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 14 seconds ago
Southgate fans - "Best England manager ever"
Also Southgate fans - "Wouldn't want him anywhere near my club"
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It’s almost as if Tournament football and club football are two different beasts
Great take Spurtle
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But he's doing such a great job in galvanising the team, making the players fight for him, getting to semis and finals in cup competitions....why wouldn't you be ok with him managing your club?
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A 4 week tournament played every 2 years is different to 9 months of club football.
England aren’t entertaining - but who cares, 2 finals in 4 tournaments.
Spurs tried that with Conte and the whine from our fans was extraordinary. We are back to being very attacking, completely open at the back and playing Europa league - but the majority of the fans seem happy.
Like I said - Great take Spurtle
posted on 11/7/24
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 10 minutes ago
Spain are of course favourites and are unbelievable, but Sir Gareth deserves huge praise - post him we will go back to being a quarter final team.
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I don't actually agree with this. I think there are plenty of managers who could achieve things with England going forward. Aside from the luck Southgate's had, to me it seems like England are producing more talented players than they used to. We started getting kids to play on smaller size pitches only recently and this is probably helping matters.
Give the next manager 4 goes at it and I reckon he'd have as much chance of winning anything than Southgate. They might not consistently get the same luck Southgate's had but at least one of those times out of 4 I reckon things would come together nicely.
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Sure - easy to say isn’t it
Meanwhile here we are with our second greatest manager ever - why replace him? “Because it’s boooorring” it’s honestly pathetic and I agree with Jock saying some of our fans are arrogant - this is the height of arrogance.
“He’s lucky” - people acting like that’s a crime, what if the next manager is way more entertaining but not lucky and we pull off a Scotland in repeated tournaments - would that be better.
Euros final on Sunday, second on the bounce and some still aren’t satisfied, it’s insane, shut up and have a solero
posted on 11/7/24
comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 39 seconds ago
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posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 14 seconds ago
Southgate fans - "Best England manager ever"
Also Southgate fans - "Wouldn't want him anywhere near my club"
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It’s almost as if Tournament football and club football are two different beasts
Great take Spurtle
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But he's doing such a great job in galvanising the team, making the players fight for him, getting to semis and finals in cup competitions....why wouldn't you be ok with him managing your club?
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A 4 week tournament played every 2 years is different to 9 months of club football.
England aren’t entertaining - but who cares, 2 finals in 4 tournaments.
Spurs tried that with Conte and the whine from our fans was extraordinary. We are back to being very attacking, completely open at the back and playing Europa league - but the majority of the fans seem happy.
Like I said - Great take Spurtle
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Could that be because there is more luck involved in cup competitions than there is in a league campaign? Hmmm
If you want to rate him you go ahead. I think he did well yesterday but he's still an average manager.
posted on 11/7/24
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 39 seconds ago
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posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 14 seconds ago
Southgate fans - "Best England manager ever"
Also Southgate fans - "Wouldn't want him anywhere near my club"
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It’s almost as if Tournament football and club football are two different beasts
Great take Spurtle
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But he's doing such a great job in galvanising the team, making the players fight for him, getting to semis and finals in cup competitions....why wouldn't you be ok with him managing your club?
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A 4 week tournament played every 2 years is different to 9 months of club football.
England aren’t entertaining - but who cares, 2 finals in 4 tournaments.
Spurs tried that with Conte and the whine from our fans was extraordinary. We are back to being very attacking, completely open at the back and playing Europa league - but the majority of the fans seem happy.
Like I said - Great take Spurtle
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Could that be because there is more luck involved in cup competitions than there is in a league campaign? Hmmm
If you want to rate him you go ahead. I think he did well yesterday but he's still an average manager.
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Of course there is more luck - but there is no league competition in international football, so who cares.
It’s horses for courses, Gareth can be both the right man for England and the wrong man for Spurs/Arsenal, etc
Your take on this is monumentally stupid, I wouldn’t want Deschamps managing my club or Otto Rehhagel, or whoever manages the Georgian team.
posted on 11/7/24
comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 10 minutes ago
Spain are of course favourites and are unbelievable, but Sir Gareth deserves huge praise - post him we will go back to being a quarter final team.
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I don't actually agree with this. I think there are plenty of managers who could achieve things with England going forward. Aside from the luck Southgate's had, to me it seems like England are producing more talented players than they used to. We started getting kids to play on smaller size pitches only recently and this is probably helping matters.
Give the next manager 4 goes at it and I reckon he'd have as much chance of winning anything than Southgate. They might not consistently get the same luck Southgate's had but at least one of those times out of 4 I reckon things would come together nicely.
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Sure - easy to say isn’t it
Meanwhile here we are with our second greatest manager ever - why replace him? “Because it’s boooorring” it’s honestly pathetic and I agree with Jock saying some of our fans are arrogant - this is the height of arrogance.
“He’s lucky” - people acting like that’s a crime, what if the next manager is way more entertaining but not lucky and we pull off a Scotland in repeated tournaments - would that be better.
Euros final on Sunday, second on the bounce and some still aren’t satisfied, it’s insane, shut up and have a solero
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It's all very well and good that he has got to finals and semi finals but if he doesn't win on Sunday and we ultimately won't have ended up winning anything under him in 4 goes where we've been close, then should that not be partly at least, considered failure? There should be a change of management in that scenario but I want to see a change regardless. I want to see what a more progressive coach can do with these players.
It wouldn't be much of a stretch to suggest a new coach having this bunch of talented players could qualify out of another comfortable qualifying group and do well in a tournament where we can avoid most of the big teams, is it?
posted on 11/7/24
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 10 minutes ago
Spain are of course favourites and are unbelievable, but Sir Gareth deserves huge praise - post him we will go back to being a quarter final team.
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I don't actually agree with this. I think there are plenty of managers who could achieve things with England going forward. Aside from the luck Southgate's had, to me it seems like England are producing more talented players than they used to. We started getting kids to play on smaller size pitches only recently and this is probably helping matters.
Give the next manager 4 goes at it and I reckon he'd have as much chance of winning anything than Southgate. They might not consistently get the same luck Southgate's had but at least one of those times out of 4 I reckon things would come together nicely.
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Sure - easy to say isn’t it
Meanwhile here we are with our second greatest manager ever - why replace him? “Because it’s boooorring” it’s honestly pathetic and I agree with Jock saying some of our fans are arrogant - this is the height of arrogance.
“He’s lucky” - people acting like that’s a crime, what if the next manager is way more entertaining but not lucky and we pull off a Scotland in repeated tournaments - would that be better.
Euros final on Sunday, second on the bounce and some still aren’t satisfied, it’s insane, shut up and have a solero
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It's all very well and good that he has got to finals and semi finals but if he doesn't win on Sunday and we ultimately won't have ended up winning anything under him in 4 goes where we've been close, then should that not be partly at least, considered failure? There should be a change of management in that scenario but I want to see a change regardless. I want to see what a more progressive coach can do with these players.
It wouldn't be much of a stretch to suggest a new coach having this bunch of talented players could qualify out of another comfortable qualifying group and do well in a tournament where we can avoid most of the big teams, is it?
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Which manager? Top managers want clubs, the next bracket down international sides. Italy went with Spalletti - a top manager, with a squad that entered the tournament as the holders and they were faaacking woeful.
I don’t want Wizard managing our country, he is and in my opinion always has been schitt.
I’d prefer to win Sunday and say to Gareth - we’re at home in 2028 - let’s see if you can make more history and get us to a 3rd successive final.
Unfortunately, England fans seem to be in the last season of Poch faze - gets us to a CL final after spending faaack all the previous summer but fans want change and Levy loves pulling the trigger.
Why does no one have patience anymore? It took Joachim Low 5 tournaments and Germany haven’t recovered from him going despite having Nagelsmann in charge this time round.
Basically - Faaack off to your suggestion
posted on 11/7/24
comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 10 minutes ago
Spain are of course favourites and are unbelievable, but Sir Gareth deserves huge praise - post him we will go back to being a quarter final team.
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I don't actually agree with this. I think there are plenty of managers who could achieve things with England going forward. Aside from the luck Southgate's had, to me it seems like England are producing more talented players than they used to. We started getting kids to play on smaller size pitches only recently and this is probably helping matters.
Give the next manager 4 goes at it and I reckon he'd have as much chance of winning anything than Southgate. They might not consistently get the same luck Southgate's had but at least one of those times out of 4 I reckon things would come together nicely.
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Sure - easy to say isn’t it
Meanwhile here we are with our second greatest manager ever - why replace him? “Because it’s boooorring” it’s honestly pathetic and I agree with Jock saying some of our fans are arrogant - this is the height of arrogance.
“He’s lucky” - people acting like that’s a crime, what if the next manager is way more entertaining but not lucky and we pull off a Scotland in repeated tournaments - would that be better.
Euros final on Sunday, second on the bounce and some still aren’t satisfied, it’s insane, shut up and have a solero
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It's all very well and good that he has got to finals and semi finals but if he doesn't win on Sunday and we ultimately won't have ended up winning anything under him in 4 goes where we've been close, then should that not be partly at least, considered failure? There should be a change of management in that scenario but I want to see a change regardless. I want to see what a more progressive coach can do with these players.
It wouldn't be much of a stretch to suggest a new coach having this bunch of talented players could qualify out of another comfortable qualifying group and do well in a tournament where we can avoid most of the big teams, is it?
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Which manager? Top managers want clubs, the next bracket down international sides. Italy went with Spalletti - a top manager, with a squad that entered the tournament as the holders and they were faaacking woeful.
I don’t want Wizard managing our country, he is and in my opinion always has been schitt.
I’d prefer to win Sunday and say to Gareth - we’re at home in 2028 - let’s see if you can make more history and get us to a 3rd successive final.
Unfortunately, England fans seem to be in the last season of Poch faze - gets us to a CL final after spending faaack all the previous summer but fans want change and Levy loves pulling the trigger.
Why does no one have patience anymore? It took Joachim Low 5 tournaments and Germany haven’t recovered from him going despite having Nagelsmann in charge this time round.
Basically - Faaack off to your suggestion
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Potter, Howe....why could they not do as well as Southgate? Why is Southgate the very best we could get? I'll be honest, he's done better than most of us thought when we first appointed him and if that is someone who most thought was an average manager who may not be a winner (we'll find out after Sunday) then why couldn't others who are deemed a bit better at club level achieve with England?
"Unfortunately, England fans seem to be in the last season of Poch faze - gets us to a CL final after spending faaack all the previous summer but fans want change and Levy loves pulling the trigger."
What was that about not comparing club management to international management? Great take mate.
posted on 11/7/24
comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 49 seconds ago
I don't see Spain as the clear favourites people are making out.
Yes, they've been the form team in this tournament, but England finally seem to have got themselves sorted positionally, they have better players and depth overall, and they have the experience at this stage of big tournaments that Spain don't.
Experience and individual quality are huge factors at this level, which makes England slight favourites for a game that on paper is very hard to call.
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Bookies have Spain as favourites - so the general public is clearly thinking Spain are faves
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Good for them. I'm of a different opinion.
posted on 11/7/24
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 41 seconds ago
comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 49 seconds ago
I don't see Spain as the clear favourites people are making out.
Yes, they've been the form team in this tournament, but England finally seem to have got themselves sorted positionally, they have better players and depth overall, and they have the experience at this stage of big tournaments that Spain don't.
Experience and individual quality are huge factors at this level, which makes England slight favourites for a game that on paper is very hard to call.
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Bookies have Spain as favourites - so the general public is clearly thinking Spain are faves
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Good for them. I'm of a different opinion.
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No problem with that
posted on 11/7/24
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 10 minutes ago
Spain are of course favourites and are unbelievable, but Sir Gareth deserves huge praise - post him we will go back to being a quarter final team.
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I don't actually agree with this. I think there are plenty of managers who could achieve things with England going forward. Aside from the luck Southgate's had, to me it seems like England are producing more talented players than they used to. We started getting kids to play on smaller size pitches only recently and this is probably helping matters.
Give the next manager 4 goes at it and I reckon he'd have as much chance of winning anything than Southgate. They might not consistently get the same luck Southgate's had but at least one of those times out of 4 I reckon things would come together nicely.
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Sure - easy to say isn’t it
Meanwhile here we are with our second greatest manager ever - why replace him? “Because it’s boooorring” it’s honestly pathetic and I agree with Jock saying some of our fans are arrogant - this is the height of arrogance.
“He’s lucky” - people acting like that’s a crime, what if the next manager is way more entertaining but not lucky and we pull off a Scotland in repeated tournaments - would that be better.
Euros final on Sunday, second on the bounce and some still aren’t satisfied, it’s insane, shut up and have a solero
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It's all very well and good that he has got to finals and semi finals but if he doesn't win on Sunday and we ultimately won't have ended up winning anything under him in 4 goes where we've been close, then should that not be partly at least, considered failure? There should be a change of management in that scenario but I want to see a change regardless. I want to see what a more progressive coach can do with these players.
It wouldn't be much of a stretch to suggest a new coach having this bunch of talented players could qualify out of another comfortable qualifying group and do well in a tournament where we can avoid most of the big teams, is it?
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Which manager? Top managers want clubs, the next bracket down international sides. Italy went with Spalletti - a top manager, with a squad that entered the tournament as the holders and they were faaacking woeful.
I don’t want Wizard managing our country, he is and in my opinion always has been schitt.
I’d prefer to win Sunday and say to Gareth - we’re at home in 2028 - let’s see if you can make more history and get us to a 3rd successive final.
Unfortunately, England fans seem to be in the last season of Poch faze - gets us to a CL final after spending faaack all the previous summer but fans want change and Levy loves pulling the trigger.
Why does no one have patience anymore? It took Joachim Low 5 tournaments and Germany haven’t recovered from him going despite having Nagelsmann in charge this time round.
Basically - Faaack off to your suggestion
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Potter, Howe....why could they not do as well as Southgate? Why is Southgate the very best we could get? I'll be honest, he's done better than most of us thought when we first appointed him and if that is someone who most thought was an average manager who may not be a winner (we'll find out after Sunday) then why couldn't others who are deemed a bit better at club level achieve with England?
"Unfortunately, England fans seem to be in the last season of Poch faze - gets us to a CL final after spending faaack all the previous summer but fans want change and Levy loves pulling the trigger."
What was that about not comparing club management to international management? Great take mate.
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It’s a coin flip though, what has Howe or Potter won in their career? I think it’s one Swedish cup between them and 1 League cup final loss - this is what I do t understand, why is their clamour to remove a man who’s worst performance at a tournament was getting beaten narrowly by France in a quarter final only to replace them with a manager who is demonstrably not better than what we have.
If Pep said he wanted the England job then it would be a different story, Howe and Wizard can get in the bin
posted on 11/7/24
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
Southgate fans - "Best England manager ever"
Also Southgate fans - "Wouldn't want him anywhere near my club"
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Spurtle
Won't have it Strike, everything we do this tournament is in spite of Southgate, not because of him.
posted on 11/7/24
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
Southgate fans - "Best England manager ever"
Also Southgate fans - "Wouldn't want him anywhere near my club"
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Spurtle
Won't have it Strike, everything we do this tournament is in spite of Southgate, not because of him.
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It’s a stupid argument, so I’m not surprised you agree with it Neo
posted on 11/7/24
All these things can be true:
- Southgate's contribution to English football has been extremely high. So much of the work behind the scenes to detoxify the squad, to create an atmosphere where players can play as a unit, and to get the fans back on side - coming from a place of chaos beforehand - is overlooked, and is a big part of the current performances.
- The England fans throwing stuff at Southgate and booing him, when we're still in the competition, are idiots. He doesn't deserve that.
- The criticism of Southgate's system, his slowness in making a change to the system and his reluctance to make subs earlier in the game has been vindicated - his detractors were right, and Gareth had made some big mistakes that he was slow to rectify.
- If we win on Sunday, Southgate will be a big reason why we've won and a legend of the English game.
posted on 11/7/24
Southgrate donet pleigh all the genetashanul talent attackets all at once n respecks qualities of oponant so he is sheet
posted on 11/7/24
comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s nearly slaaaags (U18109)
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comment by Neo (U9135)
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comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
Southgate fans - "Best England manager ever"
Also Southgate fans - "Wouldn't want him anywhere near my club"
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Spurtle
Won't have it Strike, everything we do this tournament is in spite of Southgate, not because of him.
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It’s a stupid argument, so I’m not surprised you agree with it Neo
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posted on 11/7/24
comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s nearly slaaaags (U18109)
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comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s nearly slaaaags (U18109)
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comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s nearly slaaaags (U18109)
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posted 10 minutes ago
Spain are of course favourites and are unbelievable, but Sir Gareth deserves huge praise - post him we will go back to being a quarter final team.
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I don't actually agree with this. I think there are plenty of managers who could achieve things with England going forward. Aside from the luck Southgate's had, to me it seems like England are producing more talented players than they used to. We started getting kids to play on smaller size pitches only recently and this is probably helping matters.
Give the next manager 4 goes at it and I reckon he'd have as much chance of winning anything than Southgate. They might not consistently get the same luck Southgate's had but at least one of those times out of 4 I reckon things would come together nicely.
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Sure - easy to say isn’t it
Meanwhile here we are with our second greatest manager ever - why replace him? “Because it’s boooorring” it’s honestly pathetic and I agree with Jock saying some of our fans are arrogant - this is the height of arrogance.
“He’s lucky” - people acting like that’s a crime, what if the next manager is way more entertaining but not lucky and we pull off a Scotland in repeated tournaments - would that be better.
Euros final on Sunday, second on the bounce and some still aren’t satisfied, it’s insane, shut up and have a solero
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It's all very well and good that he has got to finals and semi finals but if he doesn't win on Sunday and we ultimately won't have ended up winning anything under him in 4 goes where we've been close, then should that not be partly at least, considered failure? There should be a change of management in that scenario but I want to see a change regardless. I want to see what a more progressive coach can do with these players.
It wouldn't be much of a stretch to suggest a new coach having this bunch of talented players could qualify out of another comfortable qualifying group and do well in a tournament where we can avoid most of the big teams, is it?
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Which manager? Top managers want clubs, the next bracket down international sides. Italy went with Spalletti - a top manager, with a squad that entered the tournament as the holders and they were faaacking woeful.
I don’t want Wizard managing our country, he is and in my opinion always has been schitt.
I’d prefer to win Sunday and say to Gareth - we’re at home in 2028 - let’s see if you can make more history and get us to a 3rd successive final.
Unfortunately, England fans seem to be in the last season of Poch faze - gets us to a CL final after spending faaack all the previous summer but fans want change and Levy loves pulling the trigger.
Why does no one have patience anymore? It took Joachim Low 5 tournaments and Germany haven’t recovered from him going despite having Nagelsmann in charge this time round.
Basically - Faaack off to your suggestion
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Potter, Howe....why could they not do as well as Southgate? Why is Southgate the very best we could get? I'll be honest, he's done better than most of us thought when we first appointed him and if that is someone who most thought was an average manager who may not be a winner (we'll find out after Sunday) then why couldn't others who are deemed a bit better at club level achieve with England?
"Unfortunately, England fans seem to be in the last season of Poch faze - gets us to a CL final after spending faaack all the previous summer but fans want change and Levy loves pulling the trigger."
What was that about not comparing club management to international management? Great take mate.
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It’s a coin flip though, what has Howe or Potter won in their career? I think it’s one Swedish cup between them and 1 League cup final loss - this is what I do t understand, why is their clamour to remove a man who’s worst performance at a tournament was getting beaten narrowly by France in a quarter final only to replace them with a manager who is demonstrably not better than what we have.
If Pep said he wanted the England job then it would be a different story, Howe and Wizard can get in the bin
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Talking of Pep, didn't he say that Potter was the best English manager around?
You say he or Howe would be no better than we've got with Southgate but how do you know? If he doesn't win on Sunday, who is to say they couldn't? Who is to say they couldn't have got us over the line against Croatia or Italy? Would they have let us sit back in games when we take leads, and make subs late on?
They've done more at club level and at least they are more progressive in their approach to football. I want to see England go for it more often, not just in certain spells. A lot of the football has been dire and tactics negative.
posted on 11/7/24
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 1 minute ago
Southgrate donet pleigh all the genetashanul talent attackets all at once n respecks qualities of oponant so he is sheet
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Yep. It’s English arrogance.
posted on 11/7/24
So……….
Would YOU want him managing YOUR club?
posted on 11/7/24
Win or lose on Sunday, Southgate has done a tremendous job. People say we should be winning tournaments with the players we have and maybe we should and possibly a better manager would have but he took over in 2016 from the horrible 'Big Sam' and not long after the dreadful 2016 Euros, where we were beaten by Iceland in 2016. Two years later, world cup semis.
40 years prior to that we hadn't qualified for two world cups on the trot, had two reasonably successful tournaments in 1990 and 1996 and amongst that failed to qualify for Euro 84, world cup 94 and Euro 2008.
The nearest we have come to winning, bar 90 and 96 was Euro 2004. With Rooney, who knows?
In 8 years we have seen two Euro finals, a world cup semi and a quarter final when we lost to a very good French team.
After years of disappointment and heartache, I'm loving this Southgate period.
posted on 11/7/24
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 10 minutes ago
Spain are of course favourites and are unbelievable, but Sir Gareth deserves huge praise - post him we will go back to being a quarter final team.
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I don't actually agree with this. I think there are plenty of managers who could achieve things with England going forward. Aside from the luck Southgate's had, to me it seems like England are producing more talented players than they used to. We started getting kids to play on smaller size pitches only recently and this is probably helping matters.
Give the next manager 4 goes at it and I reckon he'd have as much chance of winning anything than Southgate. They might not consistently get the same luck Southgate's had but at least one of those times out of 4 I reckon things would come together nicely.
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Sure - easy to say isn’t it
Meanwhile here we are with our second greatest manager ever - why replace him? “Because it’s boooorring” it’s honestly pathetic and I agree with Jock saying some of our fans are arrogant - this is the height of arrogance.
“He’s lucky” - people acting like that’s a crime, what if the next manager is way more entertaining but not lucky and we pull off a Scotland in repeated tournaments - would that be better.
Euros final on Sunday, second on the bounce and some still aren’t satisfied, it’s insane, shut up and have a solero
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It's all very well and good that he has got to finals and semi finals but if he doesn't win on Sunday and we ultimately won't have ended up winning anything under him in 4 goes where we've been close, then should that not be partly at least, considered failure? There should be a change of management in that scenario but I want to see a change regardless. I want to see what a more progressive coach can do with these players.
It wouldn't be much of a stretch to suggest a new coach having this bunch of talented players could qualify out of another comfortable qualifying group and do well in a tournament where we can avoid most of the big teams, is it?
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Which manager? Top managers want clubs, the next bracket down international sides. Italy went with Spalletti - a top manager, with a squad that entered the tournament as the holders and they were faaacking woeful.
I don’t want Wizard managing our country, he is and in my opinion always has been schitt.
I’d prefer to win Sunday and say to Gareth - we’re at home in 2028 - let’s see if you can make more history and get us to a 3rd successive final.
Unfortunately, England fans seem to be in the last season of Poch faze - gets us to a CL final after spending faaack all the previous summer but fans want change and Levy loves pulling the trigger.
Why does no one have patience anymore? It took Joachim Low 5 tournaments and Germany haven’t recovered from him going despite having Nagelsmann in charge this time round.
Basically - Faaack off to your suggestion
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Potter, Howe....why could they not do as well as Southgate? Why is Southgate the very best we could get? I'll be honest, he's done better than most of us thought when we first appointed him and if that is someone who most thought was an average manager who may not be a winner (we'll find out after Sunday) then why couldn't others who are deemed a bit better at club level achieve with England?
"Unfortunately, England fans seem to be in the last season of Poch faze - gets us to a CL final after spending faaack all the previous summer but fans want change and Levy loves pulling the trigger."
What was that about not comparing club management to international management? Great take mate.
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It’s a coin flip though, what has Howe or Potter won in their career? I think it’s one Swedish cup between them and 1 League cup final loss - this is what I do t understand, why is their clamour to remove a man who’s worst performance at a tournament was getting beaten narrowly by France in a quarter final only to replace them with a manager who is demonstrably not better than what we have.
If Pep said he wanted the England job then it would be a different story, Howe and Wizard can get in the bin
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Talking of Pep, didn't he say that Potter was the best English manager around?
You say he or Howe would be no better than we've got with Southgate but how do you know? If he doesn't win on Sunday, who is to say they couldn't? Who is to say they couldn't have got us over the line against Croatia or Italy? Would they have let us sit back in games when we take leads, and make subs late on?
They've done more at club level and at least they are more progressive in their approach to football. I want to see England go for it more often, not just in certain spells. A lot of the football has been dire and tactics negative.
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Yep this. Second half of yesterday was classic Southgate- we had dominated the first half but Southgate's negative tactics put us on the backfoot once again. VVD gets a half volley while completely unmarked and hits it straight at Pickford- another day he scores that chance and its a different story completely.
Southgate is lucky and that's about it if we're being honest. I imagine a silly premier league team will take a chance on him, and I look forward to him being exposed.
posted on 11/7/24
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Striketeam7 - confident for Southgate’s nearly slaaaags (U18109)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 10 minutes ago
Spain are of course favourites and are unbelievable, but Sir Gareth deserves huge praise - post him we will go back to being a quarter final team.
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I don't actually agree with this. I think there are plenty of managers who could achieve things with England going forward. Aside from the luck Southgate's had, to me it seems like England are producing more talented players than they used to. We started getting kids to play on smaller size pitches only recently and this is probably helping matters.
Give the next manager 4 goes at it and I reckon he'd have as much chance of winning anything than Southgate. They might not consistently get the same luck Southgate's had but at least one of those times out of 4 I reckon things would come together nicely.
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Sure - easy to say isn’t it
Meanwhile here we are with our second greatest manager ever - why replace him? “Because it’s boooorring” it’s honestly pathetic and I agree with Jock saying some of our fans are arrogant - this is the height of arrogance.
“He’s lucky” - people acting like that’s a crime, what if the next manager is way more entertaining but not lucky and we pull off a Scotland in repeated tournaments - would that be better.
Euros final on Sunday, second on the bounce and some still aren’t satisfied, it’s insane, shut up and have a solero
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It's all very well and good that he has got to finals and semi finals but if he doesn't win on Sunday and we ultimately won't have ended up winning anything under him in 4 goes where we've been close, then should that not be partly at least, considered failure? There should be a change of management in that scenario but I want to see a change regardless. I want to see what a more progressive coach can do with these players.
It wouldn't be much of a stretch to suggest a new coach having this bunch of talented players could qualify out of another comfortable qualifying group and do well in a tournament where we can avoid most of the big teams, is it?
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Which manager? Top managers want clubs, the next bracket down international sides. Italy went with Spalletti - a top manager, with a squad that entered the tournament as the holders and they were faaacking woeful.
I don’t want Wizard managing our country, he is and in my opinion always has been schitt.
I’d prefer to win Sunday and say to Gareth - we’re at home in 2028 - let’s see if you can make more history and get us to a 3rd successive final.
Unfortunately, England fans seem to be in the last season of Poch faze - gets us to a CL final after spending faaack all the previous summer but fans want change and Levy loves pulling the trigger.
Why does no one have patience anymore? It took Joachim Low 5 tournaments and Germany haven’t recovered from him going despite having Nagelsmann in charge this time round.
Basically - Faaack off to your suggestion
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Potter, Howe....why could they not do as well as Southgate? Why is Southgate the very best we could get? I'll be honest, he's done better than most of us thought when we first appointed him and if that is someone who most thought was an average manager who may not be a winner (we'll find out after Sunday) then why couldn't others who are deemed a bit better at club level achieve with England?
"Unfortunately, England fans seem to be in the last season of Poch faze - gets us to a CL final after spending faaack all the previous summer but fans want change and Levy loves pulling the trigger."
What was that about not comparing club management to international management? Great take mate.
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It’s a coin flip though, what has Howe or Potter won in their career? I think it’s one Swedish cup between them and 1 League cup final loss - this is what I do t understand, why is their clamour to remove a man who’s worst performance at a tournament was getting beaten narrowly by France in a quarter final only to replace them with a manager who is demonstrably not better than what we have.
If Pep said he wanted the England job then it would be a different story, Howe and Wizard can get in the bin
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Talking of Pep, didn't he say that Potter was the best English manager around?
You say he or Howe would be no better than we've got with Southgate but how do you know? If he doesn't win on Sunday, who is to say they couldn't? Who is to say they couldn't have got us over the line against Croatia or Italy? Would they have let us sit back in games when we take leads, and make subs late on?
They've done more at club level and at least they are more progressive in their approach to football. I want to see England go for it more often, not just in certain spells. A lot of the football has been dire and tactics negative.
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Yep this. Second half of yesterday was classic Southgate- we had dominated the first half but Southgate's negative tactics put us on the backfoot once again. VVD gets a half volley while completely unmarked and hits it straight at Pickford- another day he scores that chance and its a different story completely.
Southgate is lucky and that's about it if we're being honest. I imagine a silly premier league team will take a chance on him, and I look forward to him being exposed.
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There may even be some Man United fans out there praying we lose on Sunday.
posted on 11/7/24
Mourinho got so much furrrking shiiit from Spurs fans for boring performances but reached a final in only a year into the job - was denied a trophy by the trigger happy Levy.
Southgate reaches a final and is a furrrking hero. Go figure.
posted on 11/7/24
comment by Wahl - HDTD (U22962)
posted 2 minutes ago
Mourinho got so much furrrking shiiit from Spurs fans for boring performances but reached a final in only a year into the job - was denied a trophy by the trigger happy Levy.
Southgate reaches a final and is a furrrking hero. Go figure.
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Southgate is likeable!
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