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posted on 1/8/24

My understanding is that abuse continued because of police not believing white teenage girls from certain (rough) areas and labelling them as atypical of working class council estate teenage girls who give it out easily?

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 1/8/24

comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 9 minutes ago
And Dennis McShane, who was MP for Rotherham, has admitted that he didn't look into the abuse rumours as he didn't want to "rock the multicultural community boat".
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If course. Same principle the cops. He failed to look into even though it was brought to his attention. His one and only way out is to say that. Cops ignore a lot of stuff until they can't ignore it anymore. It's not just the abuse of white girls that they don't do sheet about. Others don't get this far.

The fact that people actually see it as a valid excuse is amazing. You let young girls be abused for that? A whole facking MP allowed girls to continue to be abused? I'm just not buying that.

He didn't do anything because he didn't want to lose votes. How can you be buying this bullsheet?
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How would he lose votes? Would that be by rocking the community boat?

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 1/8/24

comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 3 minutes ago
My understanding is that abuse continued because of police not believing white teenage girls from certain (rough) areas and labelling them as atypical of working class council estate teenage girls who give it out easily?
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In which case? And were they just excuses at the time?

posted on 1/8/24

comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
It the Keighley case it is coming from the MP who was the first public person to raise the abuse happening in Keighley
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Have a link that demonstrates that? Have to be honest, I can't find anything like that. We might be discussing something you pulled out of your ass.
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Just Google Ann Cryer Rotherham abuse case. She has detailed at length the fact the authorities wouldn't act. She has stated that it was down to fear of escalating racial tensions. She has stated that other MPs congratulated her for having the courage to highlight these issues when they themselves didn't dare go near.

The woman was branded a racist, despite the fact she had done a lot throughout her years to help immigrants integrate within the community.

And as I've said earlier, with the Rotherham case, Dennis McShane admitted to being scared of rockong the boat.

But please continue to make out like I have made these things up.
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Already did that. I don't see anytime that suggests what you're saying. It would have been easier if you just provide the specifics of your claim. We would be done by now, instead of asking me to Google something you claimed as factual. If it's so factual, where's the proof?

I don't see her putting down the lack of action to fear of racial tensions tbh, except when it comes to corporate profit chasing entities who value a good image. I honest can't find anything like what you said.

posted on 1/8/24

comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 3 minutes ago
My understanding is that abuse continued because of police not believing white teenage girls from certain (rough) areas and labelling them as atypical of working class council estate teenage girls who give it out easily?
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In which case? And were they just excuses at the time?
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I've googled what he asked me to Google and the two prime results don't carry any suggestions that racial tensions stopped police or politicians from doing their jobs. Perhaps I looked to quick and might have missed it

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4780326/amp/Branded-racist-trying-save-girls-vile-abusers.html

https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/aug/30/rotherham-girls-could-have-been-spared-ann-cryer

posted on 1/8/24

Furthermore, Elvis, you were talking about government cover ups, now you've changed the goal posts to lack of action by law enforcement and politicians.

None of the above justify your statement that "A lot of his(Tommy Robinson) anger come from the authorities covering up the systematic abuse of young girls in towns and cities, ala Rochdale."

At no point does anyone(apart from Tommy Robinson) make that claim or even imply it. You're basically peddling dangerous conspiracy theories and instead of conceding you are squirming all over the place trying to defend the indefensible.

posted on 1/8/24

comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 3 minutes ago
My understanding is that abuse continued because of police not believing white teenage girls from certain (rough) areas and labelling them as atypical of working class council estate teenage girls who give it out easily?
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In which case? And were they just excuses at the time?
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As a general attitude towards the girls reporting abuse to police.

posted on 1/8/24

The BBC did the same with white christian Jimmy Savile

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 1/8/24

comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
It the Keighley case it is coming from the MP who was the first public person to raise the abuse happening in Keighley
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Have a link that demonstrates that? Have to be honest, I can't find anything like that. We might be discussing something you pulled out of your ass.
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Just Google Ann Cryer Rotherham abuse case. She has detailed at length the fact the authorities wouldn't act. She has stated that it was down to fear of escalating racial tensions. She has stated that other MPs congratulated her for having the courage to highlight these issues when they themselves didn't dare go near.

The woman was branded a racist, despite the fact she had done a lot throughout her years to help immigrants integrate within the community.

And as I've said earlier, with the Rotherham case, Dennis McShane admitted to being scared of rockong the boat.

But please continue to make out like I have made these things up.
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Already did that. I don't see anytime that suggests what you're saying. It would have been easier if you just provide the specifics of your claim. We would be done by now, instead of asking me to Google something you claimed as factual. If it's so factual, where's the proof?

I don't see her putting down the lack of action to fear of racial tensions tbh, except when it comes to corporate profit chasing entities who value a good image. I honest can't find anything like what you said.
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Please take the time to read both articles fully.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/aug/30/rotherham-girls-could-have-been-spared-ann-cryer

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4780326/Branded-racist-trying-save-girls-vile-abusers.htmlhttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4780326/Branded-racist-trying-save-girls-vile-abusers.html

posted on 1/8/24

Anyone who posts a daily mail link on here is a Tommy Robertson supporter

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 1/8/24

comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 16 minutes ago
Furthermore, Elvis, you were talking about government cover ups, now you've changed the goal posts to lack of action by law enforcement and politicians.

None of the above justify your statement that "A lot of his(Tommy Robinson) anger come from the authorities covering up the systematic abuse of young girls in towns and cities, ala Rochdale."

At no point does anyone(apart from Tommy Robinson) make that claim or even imply it. You're basically peddling dangerous conspiracy theories and instead of conceding you are squirming all over the place trying to defend the indefensible.
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As you have posted above yourself, I used the word 'authorities'.

Read the links that I have posted. I know that you won't accept that you are wrong, as you aren't capable of it. But the fact that this abuse was allowed to happen due to the worry of upsetting minority communities has been discussed by people with much more knowledge in the cases then either you or I.

posted on 1/8/24

comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Brian Gittins (U1449)
posted 30 minutes ago
So they’ve named him now

17 yr old Axel Rudakubana
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Disgusting. Should be put in isolation for life.
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Wonder what his motivation was. Such a horrible incident
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apparently he was known for wanting a genocide in this country akin to rwanda going from reports.

posted on 1/8/24

comment by John McGlashan (U1734)
posted 1 hour, 40 minutes ago
Also I reckon the "free speech" they fought so hard to get on twitter probably influenced this young boy into wanting to murder children.

Can't have a one way system where only YOUR free speech should be allowed. Where only your incitement of racial violence is fine.

I am sure the same people who craved "free speech" on twitter are more than happy with people being brainwashed by terrorists etc.

Oh but that's not the free speech we meant. We just meant our free speech.
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what in the conjecture is this.

posted on 1/8/24

Sad that an article about a tragedy that has nothing to do with Rotherham etc has been steered down this path. This is exactly what Tommy Robinson has been prattling on about since it happened. He wanted the discourse to go this way for his own means and he appears to have succeeded.

posted on 1/8/24

comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 minute ago
Sad that an article about a tragedy that has nothing to do with Rotherham etc has been steered down this path. This is exactly what Tommy Robinson has been prattling on about since it happened. He wanted the discourse to go this way for his own means and he appears to have succeeded.
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what do you think his own means are?What would be his drive to do such things? Im no supporter by any means, but seems like massive self sabotage if thats the case. He's been arrested more times than we've had hot dinners

posted on 1/8/24

comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by John McGlashan (U1734)
posted 1 hour, 40 minutes ago
Also I reckon the "free speech" they fought so hard to get on twitter probably influenced this young boy into wanting to murder children.

Can't have a one way system where only YOUR free speech should be allowed. Where only your incitement of racial violence is fine.

I am sure the same people who craved "free speech" on twitter are more than happy with people being brainwashed by terrorists etc.

Oh but that's not the free speech we meant. We just meant our free speech.
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what in the conjecture is this.
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ah...have I been Barry'd? ffs my bad

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 1/8/24

It happens to the best...

posted on 1/8/24

I rarely come on the site, so everytime he's changed his name lol

posted on 1/8/24

https://x.com/I_amMukhtar/status/1819007157024481331

Well, well, well...

posted on 1/8/24

Lol so they rioted against a brown muslim when it was actually a black christian and then they rioted further against a different brown muslim who they thought was running about with a machete, but turned out to be a white christian patriot, he just had a beard.

I told you the truth no longer matters. The consequences the lies bring cannot be undone.

The danger of Elon Musk's twitter. He will be responsible for many deaths.

Note: I am blindly believing whatever that guy posted on twitter about the identity of the machete guy and see no irony in this.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 1/8/24

comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 (U2462)
posted 17 minutes ago
https://x.com/I_amMukhtar/status/1819007157024481331

Well, well, well...
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He has come a long way since the Ibiza Weekender

posted on 1/8/24

comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 (U2462)
posted 20 minutes ago
https://x.com/I_amMukhtar/status/1819007157024481331

Well, well, well...
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Hahahaha

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 1/8/24

comment by John McGlashan (U1734)
posted 5 minutes ago
Lol so they rioted against a brown muslim when it was actually a black christian and then they rioted further against a different brown muslim who they thought was running about with a machete, but turned out to be a white christian patriot, he just had a beard.

I told you the truth no longer matters. The consequences the lies bring cannot be undone.

The danger of Elon Musk's twitter. He will be responsible for many deaths.

Note: I am blindly believing whatever that guy posted on twitter about the identity of the machete guy and see no irony in this.
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posted on 1/8/24

FFS so the brown muslims were the only ones who DIDN'T do anything this week.

START THE BOATS!

posted on 1/8/24

comment by John McGlashan (U1734)
posted 16 minutes ago
FFS so the brown muslims were the only ones who DIDN'T do anything this week.

START THE BOATS!
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Hi Barry!

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