comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 3 minutes ago
“What is the culture and heritage though? Does going to the pub with the lads to watch a game need respecting?”

Such a stupid argument recited a million times on various forums. Is our culture relatable to anywhere else in Europe? Maybe Ireland, but nowhere else.
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In your opinion, because culture is so broad and hard to define. People just bring it up when convenient.

What is "our culture"? Why do you arbitrarily select a group and say they have same culture? Culture can be different from one region to another, from one country to another, one continent to another etc.

Is Scouse culture same as cockney or any other? Yes and no.

Is English culture (which includes different cultures) same as Europe(which also includes different cultures)? Yes and no.

Is world culture the same? Yes and no.

The culture argument is the biggest load of bollox ever, and its most common and pathetic use is to excuse or justify xenophobia and racism IMO.
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I think the original point was to merely respect our laws and our culture. So dont break laws and be respectful.

Though it’s easy to argue there are plenty of Britons who go abroad and don’t do either of those things.

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Trump 2024- Let's make America great agai... (U9692)
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comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 minute ago
Immigrants are people and I don't think any special standards of morality or behaviour should be imposed on them just because their immigrants. That's actually xenophobic.
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You OK with FGM then?
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Learn to read.
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I don't think any special standards of morality or behaviour should be imposed on them just because their immigrants.
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Perhaps not normal behaviour, but mortality yes.
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Bit harsh
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posted 3 hours, 28 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
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comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
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comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 1 minute ago
How many were accepted in the UK?
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"There were 67,337 asylum applications (relating to 84,425 people) in the UK in the year ending December 2023. A total of 49,862 people were granted protection in the year ending December 2023 as a result of an asylum claim"

Circa 75%
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So we have accepted more than Germany in terms of numbers despite having 5 times fewer applications? Apparently the number of asylum seeker applicatiions we accepted last year saw an increase of 247%.
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Yet the number that is typically quoted is not the end result number (such as the circa 75% above). What is quoted is the initial application number of which a lot are rejected for a myriad of reasons including, but not limited to, incorrectly completed applications.


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So more like 87% acceptance if half are accepted on appeal?
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No I suspect that the 75% number is correct and that number is lower when referencing first time applications
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https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN01403/SN01403.pdf

P15 with stats up to 2021 official gov source

the number varies by year but can be a lot of appeals and a lot of approvals

I think the original point was to merely respect our laws and our culture. So dont break laws and be respectful.
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Yeah, I read it, thanks.

I replied that I don't think they should have to respect laws and culture any more than anyone else. That's not equality. They should respect these things only as much as natives respect them.

Also, how can you expect a large group of people not to break laws or be disrespectful? Even by psychological science, there is a 3% criminality rate in every large group of people.

It's another excuse for xenophobia and racism. A god complex where it is impossible not to sin, but you are not supposed to sin anyway and will be thrown in hell if you do.

Crime is inevitable. It's an intentionally irrational standard that cannot be met, used to create grounds to justify xenophobic or racist rhetoric or action. Immigrants will commit crimes and when they do they should be treated like any other criminal.

comment by Trump 2024- Let's make America great again. (U9692)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 minute ago
Immigrants are people and I don't think any special standards of morality or behaviour should be imposed on them just because their immigrants. That's actually xenophobic.
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You OK with FGM then?
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Learn to read.
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I don't think any special standards of morality or behaviour should be imposed on them just because their immigrants.
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Perhaps not normal behaviour, but mortality yes.
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Eh?

comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Trump 2024- Let's make America great again. (U9692)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 minute ago
Immigrants are people and I don't think any special standards of morality or behaviour should be imposed on them just because their immigrants. That's actually xenophobic.
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You OK with FGM then?
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Learn to read.
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I don't think any special standards of morality or behaviour should be imposed on them just because their immigrants.
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Perhaps not normal behaviour, but mortality yes.
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Eh?
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He's just saying he'd kill them if they step out of line.

Trump supporter, remember!

Though it’s easy to argue there are plenty of Britons who go abroad and don’t do either of those things.
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Of course. Going abroad and acting like a caaant is part of British culture. Going to the pub with mates to watch the game is somehow also British culture, even though everyone else in the world does it too.

Morons kicking off in Southport now!

Retribution in Southport was to be expected.

comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 10 minutes ago
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posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Trump 2024- Let's make America great again. (U9692)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 minute ago
Immigrants are people and I don't think any special standards of morality or behaviour should be imposed on them just because their immigrants. That's actually xenophobic.
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You OK with FGM then?
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Learn to read.
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I don't think any special standards of morality or behaviour should be imposed on them just because their immigrants.
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Perhaps not normal behaviour, but mortality yes.
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Eh?
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He's just saying he'd kill them if they step out of line.

Trump supporter, remember!
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I thought he abandoned the Trump cult?

comment by Mr Boggart Hole (U9489)
posted 13 seconds ago
Retribution in Southport was to be expected.
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Attacking police and mosques.

Wasn't this guy banned by admin btw?

comment by Mr Boggart Hole (U9489)
posted 1 minute ago
Retribution in Southport was to be expected.
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By attacking police and mosques?

Shows how stupid the far right are that this is their definition of retribution.

comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Mr Boggart Hole (U9489)
posted 13 seconds ago
Retribution in Southport was to be expected.
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Attacking police and mosques.

Wasn't this guy banned by admin btw?
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I didn’t say I condone it did I?

I mean that given all the rumours online, far right etc, it was always obvious it’d kick off in Southport.

For the record I do not support the far right, nor do I condone mindless violence in the name of ‘patriotism’ and attacking police etc

Thanks

Not do I condone attacking mosques either

is xenophobia and racism part of British culture?

comment by mx4 (U23184)
posted 35 seconds ago
is xenophobia and racism part of British culture?
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No. But either is killing children. I’m not suprised there’s protests tonight

comment by mx4 (U23184)
posted 6 seconds ago
is xenophobia and racism part of British culture?
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No. Hence why I condemn the behaviour of people in Southport.

I stand by my comment though that it was obviously always going to kick off.

Too many idiots have access to social media for that not to have happened.

comment by mx4 (U23184)
posted 1 minute ago
is xenophobia and racism part of British culture?
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I’d say yes it is for the last 10 years

It definitely was part of the culture when I grew up, alf garnett, jim davidson, both my neighbours etc. etc.

comment by mx4 (U23184)
posted 4 minutes ago
is xenophobia and racism part of British culture?
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Probably part of human nature

comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Mr Boggart Hole (U9489)
posted 1 minute ago
Retribution in Southport was to be expected.
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By attacking police and mosques?

Shows how stupid the far right are that this is their definition of retribution.
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I don’t want any mosque or police officer attacked.

Things need to be dealt with legally and sensibly.

For example yesterday online people were spreading misinformation about the suspect which has clearly resulted in the violence in Southport.

comment by mx4 (U23184)
posted 6 minutes ago
is xenophobia and racism part of British culture?
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Yes. Britain invented racism.

comment by Mr Boggart Hole (U9489)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Mr Boggart Hole (U9489)
posted 1 minute ago
Retribution in Southport was to be expected.
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By attacking police and mosques?

Shows how stupid the far right are that this is their definition of retribution.
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I don’t want any mosque or police officer attacked.

Things need to be dealt with legally and sensibly.

For example yesterday online people were spreading misinformation about the suspect which has clearly resulted in the violence in Southport.
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Think it would have kicked off regardless tbf. This isn’t surprising at all.

comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Mr Boggart Hole (U9489)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Darren The String Fletcher (U10026)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Mr Boggart Hole (U9489)
posted 1 minute ago
Retribution in Southport was to be expected.
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By attacking police and mosques?

Shows how stupid the far right are that this is their definition of retribution.
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I don’t want any mosque or police officer attacked.

Things need to be dealt with legally and sensibly.

For example yesterday online people were spreading misinformation about the suspect which has clearly resulted in the violence in Southport.
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Think it would have kicked off regardless tbf. This isn’t surprising at all.
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Exactly hence why I said it was always going to happen.

It doesn't help that the perpetrators of these major crimes/terror attacks are immigrants, however that doesn’t mean all immigrants are ticking time bombs like the far right portray.

comment by Mr Boggart Hole (U9489)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Mr Boggart Hole (U9489)
posted 13 seconds ago
Retribution in Southport was to be expected.
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Attacking police and mosques.

Wasn't this guy banned by admin btw?
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I didn’t say I condone it did I?

I mean that given all the rumours online, far right etc, it was always obvious it’d kick off in Southport.

For the record I do not support the far right, nor do I condone mindless violence in the name of ‘patriotism’ and attacking police etc

Thanks
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Fair enough on this point. Respect.

But generally speaking you're still a massive caaant overall