Top 3 countries producing asylum seekers who come to Europe and UK are Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq.
It's clear what the problem is. I wonder who facked up the middle east. Tommy Robinson and other geniuses who believe like him should be protesting the wars that are causing people to leave their homelands for greener pastures. Fecking geniuses protesting so vehemently about immigration but doing fack all about the actual cause of it. You are paying through your nose for fuel and other stuff because of international instability. Stop selling and supplying arms for a start.
We shouldn't say stop the boats. We should say stop the war.
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Pranks - 2024 LFC Draft Champ (U22336)
posted 17 minutes ago
Percentages are useless 😆
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50% of people would disagree with you
The scenes in Southport were a disgrace, but the media only fuel the far right's agenda by ignoring what was going on at the same time in Southend:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13690611/Machetes-fight-Southend-theme-park-police-arrests.html
BBC are barely mentioning it. If you see the videos circulating online you can see why people are against mass immigration.
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
Top 3 countries producing asylum seekers who come to Europe and UK are Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq.
It's clear what the problem is. I wonder who facked up the middle east. Tommy Robinson and other geniuses who believe like him should be protesting the wars that are causing people to leave their homelands for greener pastures. Fecking geniuses protesting so vehemently about immigration but doing fack all about the actual cause of it. You are paying through your nose for fuel and other stuff because of international instability. Stop selling and supplying arms for a start.
We shouldn't say stop the boats. We should say stop the war.
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Genius idea...world peace That should be our new foreign policy
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 3 hours, 38 minutes ago
Apart from that, the statements in that comment are complete falsehoods which I was tryna correct. We don't approve a higher percentage of applicants than our peer countries, and we receive far less applications as well. A few minutes of research would demonstrate that but the poster doesn't care if his statements are accurate. Lies are their forte.
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The Government website shows that our asylum approval rate (following appeal) was 66% between 2018-2020. The website also shows that there is a steady rise over that period, with 2021 figures expected to be 77%. How does that compare with other European countries?
And I don't really see how the percentage is useless in this instance. It is surely the best metric of how difficult the application process is for asylum seekers?
It’s a great metric, better than just using actual numbers
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 hour, 47 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Pranks - 2024 LFC Draft Champ (U22336)
posted 17 minutes ago
Percentages are useless 😆
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...for that purpose.
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50% of people would disagree with you
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Rising to 63% following appeal.
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
Top 3 countries producing asylum seekers who come to Europe and UK are Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq.
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Syria is only 10th for the UK and Iraq 7th.
https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/migration-to-the-uk-asylum/#:~:text=In%202023%2C%20the%20top%20five,Pakistan%2C%20India%2C%20and%20Bangladesh.&text=Data%20from%202023%20shows%20that,among%20young%20men%20and%20women.&text=Asylum%20refusals%20are%20often%20overturned%20on%20appeal.
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
Top 3 countries producing asylum seekers who come to Europe and UK are Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq.
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Syria is only 10th for the UK and Iraq 7th.
https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/migration-to-the-uk-asylum/#:~:text=In%202023%2C%20the%20top%20five,Pakistan%2C%20India%2C%20and%20Bangladesh.&text=Data%20from%202023%20shows%20that,among%20young%20men%20and%20women.&text=Asylum%20refusals%20are%20often%20overturned%20on%20appeal.
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The most immediately startling figures there are for Afghanistan.
99% of asylum applicants from that country are very understandably deemed to be legitimately in need of asylum and a place of refuge; but when the UK pulled its military out of the country having ravaged it for years, flattening neighbourhoods and orphaning children in some sort of mad, misdirected payback for 9/11, it decided it was fair to leave behind scores of Afghan civilians who were under immediate mortal threat from the Taliban having helped UK forces with translation and other services during the Western occupation.
Condemnatory.
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 3 hours, 38 minutes ago
Apart from that, the statements in that comment are complete falsehoods which I was tryna correct. We don't approve a higher percentage of applicants than our peer countries, and we receive far less applications as well. A few minutes of research would demonstrate that but the poster doesn't care if his statements are accurate. Lies are their forte.
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The Government website shows that our asylum approval rate (following appeal) was 66% between 2018-2020. The website also shows that there is a steady rise over that period, with 2021 figures expected to be 77%. How does that compare with other European countries?
And I don't really see how the percentage is useless in this instance. It is surely the best metric of how difficult the application process is for asylum seekers?
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2023 UK had something like 85k asylum applications and that compares to Germany who had about 335k.
For Germany's 2023 period they determined about 260k applications and about half were rejected.
UK typically grants a greater % of applications but from far fewer numbers of applications.
What is clear to me is that asylum seekers make up about 7% of the net migration figures in this country (2023) so it is not a massive contributor to issue of immigration.
in 2023 we had net migration of 685k, of which about 50k were asylum seekers.
IMO this country should be able to tolerate these sorts of levels where people are coming here out of necessity as opposed to being economic migrants.
It is controlling the economic migration that needs to be properly addressed, ensuring we are getting the right balance of skills coming in, and tbh this includes low skilled work as there is a massive shortage in this country as the natives seem less and less willing to work hard and get their hands dirty.
It is controlling the economic migration that needs to be properly addressed, ensuring we are getting the right balance of skills coming in, and tbh this includes low skilled work as there is a massive shortage in this country as the natives seem less and less willing to work hard and get their hands dirty.
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The Gig Economy is partly to blame for that, I don’t actually blame people for not wanting to work for £4 an hour or even less
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 3 hours, 38 minutes ago
Apart from that, the statements in that comment are complete falsehoods which I was tryna correct. We don't approve a higher percentage of applicants than our peer countries, and we receive far less applications as well. A few minutes of research would demonstrate that but the poster doesn't care if his statements are accurate. Lies are their forte.
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The Government website shows that our asylum approval rate (following appeal) was 66% between 2018-2020. The website also shows that there is a steady rise over that period, with 2021 figures expected to be 77%. How does that compare with other European countries?
And I don't really see how the percentage is useless in this instance. It is surely the best metric of how difficult the application process is for asylum seekers?
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2023 UK had something like 85k asylum applications and that compares to Germany who had about 335k.
For Germany's 2023 period they determined about 260k applications and about half were rejected.
UK typically grants a greater % of applications but from far fewer numbers of applications.
What is clear to me is that asylum seekers make up about 7% of the net migration figures in this country (2023) so it is not a massive contributor to issue of immigration.
in 2023 we had net migration of 685k, of which about 50k were asylum seekers.
IMO this country should be able to tolerate these sorts of levels where people are coming here out of necessity as opposed to being economic migrants.
It is controlling the economic migration that needs to be properly addressed, ensuring we are getting the right balance of skills coming in, and tbh this includes low skilled work as there is a massive shortage in this country as the natives seem less and less willing to work hard and get their hands dirty.
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Yeh, agree with all of that.
We also need to start processing the asylum applications a lot quicker by the looks of things.
Why work crappy jobs when you can earn more by doing fack all and get benefits?
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 3 hours, 38 minutes ago
Apart from that, the statements in that comment are complete falsehoods which I was tryna correct. We don't approve a higher percentage of applicants than our peer countries, and we receive far less applications as well. A few minutes of research would demonstrate that but the poster doesn't care if his statements are accurate. Lies are their forte.
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The Government website shows that our asylum approval rate (following appeal) was 66% between 2018-2020. The website also shows that there is a steady rise over that period, with 2021 figures expected to be 77%. How does that compare with other European countries?
And I don't really see how the percentage is useless in this instance. It is surely the best metric of how difficult the application process is for asylum seekers?
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2023 UK had something like 85k asylum applications and that compares to Germany who had about 335k.
For Germany's 2023 period they determined about 260k applications and about half were rejected.
UK typically grants a greater % of applications but from far fewer numbers of applications.
What is clear to me is that asylum seekers make up about 7% of the net migration figures in this country (2023) so it is not a massive contributor to issue of immigration.
in 2023 we had net migration of 685k, of which about 50k were asylum seekers.
IMO this country should be able to tolerate these sorts of levels where people are coming here out of necessity as opposed to being economic migrants.
It is controlling the economic migration that needs to be properly addressed, ensuring we are getting the right balance of skills coming in, and tbh this includes low skilled work as there is a massive shortage in this country as the natives seem less and less willing to work hard and get their hands dirty.
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Yeh, agree with all of that.
We also need to start processing the asylum applications a lot quicker by the looks of things.
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Getting applications processed quickly and people settled would save a fack ton of money.
The Tories pessed an absolutely obscene amount of cash up the wall housing asylum seekers, who could otherwise with settled status have been both fending for themselves and contributing to the economy, in hotels.
Another one from their infinitely long list of crimes against the state.
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 7 minutes ago
It is controlling the economic migration that needs to be properly addressed, ensuring we are getting the right balance of skills coming in, and tbh this includes low skilled work as there is a massive shortage in this country as the natives seem less and less willing to work hard and get their hands dirty.
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The Gig Economy is partly to blame for that, I don’t actually blame people for not wanting to work for £4 an hour or even less
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Aye, but you get to horse through town pavements on an illegally fast bike with no lights and get given an impossibly thick black puffer jacket uniform.
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 3 hours, 38 minutes ago
Apart from that, the statements in that comment are complete falsehoods which I was tryna correct. We don't approve a higher percentage of applicants than our peer countries, and we receive far less applications as well. A few minutes of research would demonstrate that but the poster doesn't care if his statements are accurate. Lies are their forte.
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The Government website shows that our asylum approval rate (following appeal) was 66% between 2018-2020. The website also shows that there is a steady rise over that period, with 2021 figures expected to be 77%. How does that compare with other European countries?
And I don't really see how the percentage is useless in this instance. It is surely the best metric of how difficult the application process is for asylum seekers?
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2023 UK had something like 85k asylum applications and that compares to Germany who had about 335k.
For Germany's 2023 period they determined about 260k applications and about half were rejected.
UK typically grants a greater % of applications but from far fewer numbers of applications.
What is clear to me is that asylum seekers make up about 7% of the net migration figures in this country (2023) so it is not a massive contributor to issue of immigration.
in 2023 we had net migration of 685k, of which about 50k were asylum seekers.
IMO this country should be able to tolerate these sorts of levels where people are coming here out of necessity as opposed to being economic migrants.
It is controlling the economic migration that needs to be properly addressed, ensuring we are getting the right balance of skills coming in, and tbh this includes low skilled work as there is a massive shortage in this country as the natives seem less and less willing to work hard and get their hands dirty.
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Yeh, agree with all of that.
We also need to start processing the asylum applications a lot quicker by the looks of things.
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50,000 may seem like a relatively small amount when comparing to the total of 685,000 net and 1,200,000 in. But do remember that our net figure was around 50k for years and years and years. So it’s still pretty significant
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 hour, 38 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 3 hours, 38 minutes ago
Apart from that, the statements in that comment are complete falsehoods which I was tryna correct. We don't approve a higher percentage of applicants than our peer countries, and we receive far less applications as well. A few minutes of research would demonstrate that but the poster doesn't care if his statements are accurate. Lies are their forte.
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The Government website shows that our asylum approval rate (following appeal) was 66% between 2018-2020. The website also shows that there is a steady rise over that period, with 2021 figures expected to be 77%. How does that compare with other European countries?
And I don't really see how the percentage is useless in this instance. It is surely the best metric of how difficult the application process is for asylum seekers?
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Fair enough, my point was that the number of applications received by a country makes a difference. If one country receives a million applications and approves 100,000. Another receives 100,000 applications and approves them all. One has 10% the other has 100% but they approved the same number. The comparison between the percentage approved by the two countries will not be a reflection of how difficult or easy it is to obtain approval.
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 3 hours, 38 minutes ago
Apart from that, the statements in that comment are complete falsehoods which I was tryna correct. We don't approve a higher percentage of applicants than our peer countries, and we receive far less applications as well. A few minutes of research would demonstrate that but the poster doesn't care if his statements are accurate. Lies are their forte.
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The Government website shows that our asylum approval rate (following appeal) was 66% between 2018-2020. The website also shows that there is a steady rise over that period, with 2021 figures expected to be 77%. How does that compare with other European countries?
And I don't really see how the percentage is useless in this instance. It is surely the best metric of how difficult the application process is for asylum seekers?
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2023 UK had something like 85k asylum applications and that compares to Germany who had about 335k.
For Germany's 2023 period they determined about 260k applications and about half were rejected.
UK typically grants a greater % of applications but from far fewer numbers of applications.
What is clear to me is that asylum seekers make up about 7% of the net migration figures in this country (2023) so it is not a massive contributor to issue of immigration.
in 2023 we had net migration of 685k, of which about 50k were asylum seekers.
IMO this country should be able to tolerate these sorts of levels where people are coming here out of necessity as opposed to being economic migrants.
It is controlling the economic migration that needs to be properly addressed, ensuring we are getting the right balance of skills coming in, and tbh this includes low skilled work as there is a massive shortage in this country as the natives seem less and less willing to work hard and get their hands dirty.
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Yeh, agree with all of that.
We also need to start processing the asylum applications a lot quicker by the looks of things.
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50,000 may seem like a relatively small amount when comparing to the total of 685,000 net and 1,200,000 in. But do remember that our net figure was around 50k for years and years and years. So it’s still pretty significant
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We still exported 532,000 people.
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 3 hours, 38 minutes ago
Apart from that, the statements in that comment are complete falsehoods which I was tryna correct. We don't approve a higher percentage of applicants than our peer countries, and we receive far less applications as well. A few minutes of research would demonstrate that but the poster doesn't care if his statements are accurate. Lies are their forte.
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The Government website shows that our asylum approval rate (following appeal) was 66% between 2018-2020. The website also shows that there is a steady rise over that period, with 2021 figures expected to be 77%. How does that compare with other European countries?
And I don't really see how the percentage is useless in this instance. It is surely the best metric of how difficult the application process is for asylum seekers?
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2023 UK had something like 85k asylum applications and that compares to Germany who had about 335k.
For Germany's 2023 period they determined about 260k applications and about half were rejected.
UK typically grants a greater % of applications but from far fewer numbers of applications.
What is clear to me is that asylum seekers make up about 7% of the net migration figures in this country (2023) so it is not a massive contributor to issue of immigration.
in 2023 we had net migration of 685k, of which about 50k were asylum seekers.
IMO this country should be able to tolerate these sorts of levels where people are coming here out of necessity as opposed to being economic migrants.
It is controlling the economic migration that needs to be properly addressed, ensuring we are getting the right balance of skills coming in, and tbh this includes low skilled work as there is a massive shortage in this country as the natives seem less and less willing to work hard and get their hands dirty.
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Yeh, agree with all of that.
We also need to start processing the asylum applications a lot quicker by the looks of things.
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50,000 may seem like a relatively small amount when comparing to the total of 685,000 net and 1,200,000 in. But do remember that our net figure was around 50k for years and years and years. So it’s still pretty significant
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True but the world has changed and is far more unstable than in most our lifetimes. Those seeking Asylum in the EU was at a low of about 200k in 2005 but since then it has gone off the charts, peaking at over 1.3m in 2015 and currently about 1.13m.
The whole of the continent is seeing massively increased demands and the UK is no different.
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 3 hours, 38 minutes ago
Apart from that, the statements in that comment are complete falsehoods which I was tryna correct. We don't approve a higher percentage of applicants than our peer countries, and we receive far less applications as well. A few minutes of research would demonstrate that but the poster doesn't care if his statements are accurate. Lies are their forte.
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The Government website shows that our asylum approval rate (following appeal) was 66% between 2018-2020. The website also shows that there is a steady rise over that period, with 2021 figures expected to be 77%. How does that compare with other European countries?
And I don't really see how the percentage is useless in this instance. It is surely the best metric of how difficult the application process is for asylum seekers?
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2023 UK had something like 85k asylum applications and that compares to Germany who had about 335k.
For Germany's 2023 period they determined about 260k applications and about half were rejected.
UK typically grants a greater % of applications but from far fewer numbers of applications.
What is clear to me is that asylum seekers make up about 7% of the net migration figures in this country (2023) so it is not a massive contributor to issue of immigration.
in 2023 we had net migration of 685k, of which about 50k were asylum seekers.
IMO this country should be able to tolerate these sorts of levels where people are coming here out of necessity as opposed to being economic migrants.
It is controlling the economic migration that needs to be properly addressed, ensuring we are getting the right balance of skills coming in, and tbh this includes low skilled work as there is a massive shortage in this country as the natives seem less and less willing to work hard and get their hands dirty.
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Yeh, agree with all of that.
We also need to start processing the asylum applications a lot quicker by the looks of things.
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50,000 may seem like a relatively small amount when comparing to the total of 685,000 net and 1,200,000 in. But do remember that our net figure was around 50k for years and years and years. So it’s still pretty significant
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We still exported 532,000 people.
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Less than 20% of those are British, about half non-EU and the rest EU
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 3 hours, 38 minutes ago
Apart from that, the statements in that comment are complete falsehoods which I was tryna correct. We don't approve a higher percentage of applicants than our peer countries, and we receive far less applications as well. A few minutes of research would demonstrate that but the poster doesn't care if his statements are accurate. Lies are their forte.
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The Government website shows that our asylum approval rate (following appeal) was 66% between 2018-2020. The website also shows that there is a steady rise over that period, with 2021 figures expected to be 77%. How does that compare with other European countries?
And I don't really see how the percentage is useless in this instance. It is surely the best metric of how difficult the application process is for asylum seekers?
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2023 UK had something like 85k asylum applications and that compares to Germany who had about 335k.
For Germany's 2023 period they determined about 260k applications and about half were rejected.
UK typically grants a greater % of applications but from far fewer numbers of applications.
What is clear to me is that asylum seekers make up about 7% of the net migration figures in this country (2023) so it is not a massive contributor to issue of immigration.
in 2023 we had net migration of 685k, of which about 50k were asylum seekers.
IMO this country should be able to tolerate these sorts of levels where people are coming here out of necessity as opposed to being economic migrants.
It is controlling the economic migration that needs to be properly addressed, ensuring we are getting the right balance of skills coming in, and tbh this includes low skilled work as there is a massive shortage in this country as the natives seem less and less willing to work hard and get their hands dirty.
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Yeh, agree with all of that.
We also need to start processing the asylum applications a lot quicker by the looks of things.
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50,000 may seem like a relatively small amount when comparing to the total of 685,000 net and 1,200,000 in. But do remember that our net figure was around 50k for years and years and years. So it’s still pretty significant
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We still exported 532,000 people.
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And?
And?
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Jus sayin. That's 532,000 "immigrants" that are gonna be somebody else's problem.
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And?
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Jus sayin. That's 532,000 "immigrants" that are gonna be somebody else's problem.
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Not true.
more than 80% are non-British. So it is more likely that they are returning to their native country, particularly as a fair chunk of these are leaving having completed a British education.
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 hour, 38 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 3 hours, 38 minutes ago
Apart from that, the statements in that comment are complete falsehoods which I was tryna correct. We don't approve a higher percentage of applicants than our peer countries, and we receive far less applications as well. A few minutes of research would demonstrate that but the poster doesn't care if his statements are accurate. Lies are their forte.
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The Government website shows that our asylum approval rate (following appeal) was 66% between 2018-2020. The website also shows that there is a steady rise over that period, with 2021 figures expected to be 77%. How does that compare with other European countries?
And I don't really see how the percentage is useless in this instance. It is surely the best metric of how difficult the application process is for asylum seekers?
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Fair enough, my point was that the number of applications received by a country makes a difference. If one country receives a million applications and approves 100,000. Another receives 100,000 applications and approves them all. One has 10% the other has 100% but they approved the same number. The comparison between the percentage approved by the two countries will not be a reflection of how difficult or easy it is to obtain approval.
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Why wouldn't it be a reflection? I don't understand that logic.
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posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
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comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 3 hours, 38 minutes ago
Apart from that, the statements in that comment are complete falsehoods which I was tryna correct. We don't approve a higher percentage of applicants than our peer countries, and we receive far less applications as well. A few minutes of research would demonstrate that but the poster doesn't care if his statements are accurate. Lies are their forte.
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The Government website shows that our asylum approval rate (following appeal) was 66% between 2018-2020. The website also shows that there is a steady rise over that period, with 2021 figures expected to be 77%. How does that compare with other European countries?
And I don't really see how the percentage is useless in this instance. It is surely the best metric of how difficult the application process is for asylum seekers?
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2023 UK had something like 85k asylum applications and that compares to Germany who had about 335k.
For Germany's 2023 period they determined about 260k applications and about half were rejected.
UK typically grants a greater % of applications but from far fewer numbers of applications.
What is clear to me is that asylum seekers make up about 7% of the net migration figures in this country (2023) so it is not a massive contributor to issue of immigration.
in 2023 we had net migration of 685k, of which about 50k were asylum seekers.
IMO this country should be able to tolerate these sorts of levels where people are coming here out of necessity as opposed to being economic migrants.
It is controlling the economic migration that needs to be properly addressed, ensuring we are getting the right balance of skills coming in, and tbh this includes low skilled work as there is a massive shortage in this country as the natives seem less and less willing to work hard and get their hands dirty.
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Yeh, agree with all of that.
We also need to start processing the asylum applications a lot quicker by the looks of things.
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50,000 may seem like a relatively small amount when comparing to the total of 685,000 net and 1,200,000 in. But do remember that our net figure was around 50k for years and years and years. So it’s still pretty significant
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We still exported 532,000 people.
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Less than 20% of those are British, about half non-EU and the rest EU
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posted on 31/7/24
Top 3 countries producing asylum seekers who come to Europe and UK are Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq.
It's clear what the problem is. I wonder who facked up the middle east. Tommy Robinson and other geniuses who believe like him should be protesting the wars that are causing people to leave their homelands for greener pastures. Fecking geniuses protesting so vehemently about immigration but doing fack all about the actual cause of it. You are paying through your nose for fuel and other stuff because of international instability. Stop selling and supplying arms for a start.
We shouldn't say stop the boats. We should say stop the war.
posted on 31/7/24
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Pranks - 2024 LFC Draft Champ (U22336)
posted 17 minutes ago
Percentages are useless 😆
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...for that purpose.
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50% of people would disagree with you
posted on 31/7/24
The scenes in Southport were a disgrace, but the media only fuel the far right's agenda by ignoring what was going on at the same time in Southend:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13690611/Machetes-fight-Southend-theme-park-police-arrests.html
BBC are barely mentioning it. If you see the videos circulating online you can see why people are against mass immigration.
posted on 31/7/24
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
Top 3 countries producing asylum seekers who come to Europe and UK are Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq.
It's clear what the problem is. I wonder who facked up the middle east. Tommy Robinson and other geniuses who believe like him should be protesting the wars that are causing people to leave their homelands for greener pastures. Fecking geniuses protesting so vehemently about immigration but doing fack all about the actual cause of it. You are paying through your nose for fuel and other stuff because of international instability. Stop selling and supplying arms for a start.
We shouldn't say stop the boats. We should say stop the war.
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Genius idea...world peace That should be our new foreign policy
posted on 31/7/24
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 3 hours, 38 minutes ago
Apart from that, the statements in that comment are complete falsehoods which I was tryna correct. We don't approve a higher percentage of applicants than our peer countries, and we receive far less applications as well. A few minutes of research would demonstrate that but the poster doesn't care if his statements are accurate. Lies are their forte.
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The Government website shows that our asylum approval rate (following appeal) was 66% between 2018-2020. The website also shows that there is a steady rise over that period, with 2021 figures expected to be 77%. How does that compare with other European countries?
And I don't really see how the percentage is useless in this instance. It is surely the best metric of how difficult the application process is for asylum seekers?
posted on 31/7/24
It’s a great metric, better than just using actual numbers
posted on 31/7/24
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 1 hour, 47 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Pranks - 2024 LFC Draft Champ (U22336)
posted 17 minutes ago
Percentages are useless 😆
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...for that purpose.
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50% of people would disagree with you
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Rising to 63% following appeal.
posted on 31/7/24
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
Top 3 countries producing asylum seekers who come to Europe and UK are Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq.
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Syria is only 10th for the UK and Iraq 7th.
https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/migration-to-the-uk-asylum/#:~:text=In%202023%2C%20the%20top%20five,Pakistan%2C%20India%2C%20and%20Bangladesh.&text=Data%20from%202023%20shows%20that,among%20young%20men%20and%20women.&text=Asylum%20refusals%20are%20often%20overturned%20on%20appeal.
posted on 31/7/24
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 1 hour, 58 minutes ago
Top 3 countries producing asylum seekers who come to Europe and UK are Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq.
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Syria is only 10th for the UK and Iraq 7th.
https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/migration-to-the-uk-asylum/#:~:text=In%202023%2C%20the%20top%20five,Pakistan%2C%20India%2C%20and%20Bangladesh.&text=Data%20from%202023%20shows%20that,among%20young%20men%20and%20women.&text=Asylum%20refusals%20are%20often%20overturned%20on%20appeal.
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The most immediately startling figures there are for Afghanistan.
99% of asylum applicants from that country are very understandably deemed to be legitimately in need of asylum and a place of refuge; but when the UK pulled its military out of the country having ravaged it for years, flattening neighbourhoods and orphaning children in some sort of mad, misdirected payback for 9/11, it decided it was fair to leave behind scores of Afghan civilians who were under immediate mortal threat from the Taliban having helped UK forces with translation and other services during the Western occupation.
Condemnatory.
posted on 31/7/24
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 3 hours, 38 minutes ago
Apart from that, the statements in that comment are complete falsehoods which I was tryna correct. We don't approve a higher percentage of applicants than our peer countries, and we receive far less applications as well. A few minutes of research would demonstrate that but the poster doesn't care if his statements are accurate. Lies are their forte.
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The Government website shows that our asylum approval rate (following appeal) was 66% between 2018-2020. The website also shows that there is a steady rise over that period, with 2021 figures expected to be 77%. How does that compare with other European countries?
And I don't really see how the percentage is useless in this instance. It is surely the best metric of how difficult the application process is for asylum seekers?
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2023 UK had something like 85k asylum applications and that compares to Germany who had about 335k.
For Germany's 2023 period they determined about 260k applications and about half were rejected.
UK typically grants a greater % of applications but from far fewer numbers of applications.
What is clear to me is that asylum seekers make up about 7% of the net migration figures in this country (2023) so it is not a massive contributor to issue of immigration.
in 2023 we had net migration of 685k, of which about 50k were asylum seekers.
IMO this country should be able to tolerate these sorts of levels where people are coming here out of necessity as opposed to being economic migrants.
It is controlling the economic migration that needs to be properly addressed, ensuring we are getting the right balance of skills coming in, and tbh this includes low skilled work as there is a massive shortage in this country as the natives seem less and less willing to work hard and get their hands dirty.
posted on 31/7/24
It is controlling the economic migration that needs to be properly addressed, ensuring we are getting the right balance of skills coming in, and tbh this includes low skilled work as there is a massive shortage in this country as the natives seem less and less willing to work hard and get their hands dirty.
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The Gig Economy is partly to blame for that, I don’t actually blame people for not wanting to work for £4 an hour or even less
posted on 31/7/24
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 3 hours, 38 minutes ago
Apart from that, the statements in that comment are complete falsehoods which I was tryna correct. We don't approve a higher percentage of applicants than our peer countries, and we receive far less applications as well. A few minutes of research would demonstrate that but the poster doesn't care if his statements are accurate. Lies are their forte.
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The Government website shows that our asylum approval rate (following appeal) was 66% between 2018-2020. The website also shows that there is a steady rise over that period, with 2021 figures expected to be 77%. How does that compare with other European countries?
And I don't really see how the percentage is useless in this instance. It is surely the best metric of how difficult the application process is for asylum seekers?
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2023 UK had something like 85k asylum applications and that compares to Germany who had about 335k.
For Germany's 2023 period they determined about 260k applications and about half were rejected.
UK typically grants a greater % of applications but from far fewer numbers of applications.
What is clear to me is that asylum seekers make up about 7% of the net migration figures in this country (2023) so it is not a massive contributor to issue of immigration.
in 2023 we had net migration of 685k, of which about 50k were asylum seekers.
IMO this country should be able to tolerate these sorts of levels where people are coming here out of necessity as opposed to being economic migrants.
It is controlling the economic migration that needs to be properly addressed, ensuring we are getting the right balance of skills coming in, and tbh this includes low skilled work as there is a massive shortage in this country as the natives seem less and less willing to work hard and get their hands dirty.
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Yeh, agree with all of that.
We also need to start processing the asylum applications a lot quicker by the looks of things.
posted on 31/7/24
Why work crappy jobs when you can earn more by doing fack all and get benefits?
posted on 31/7/24
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 3 hours, 38 minutes ago
Apart from that, the statements in that comment are complete falsehoods which I was tryna correct. We don't approve a higher percentage of applicants than our peer countries, and we receive far less applications as well. A few minutes of research would demonstrate that but the poster doesn't care if his statements are accurate. Lies are their forte.
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The Government website shows that our asylum approval rate (following appeal) was 66% between 2018-2020. The website also shows that there is a steady rise over that period, with 2021 figures expected to be 77%. How does that compare with other European countries?
And I don't really see how the percentage is useless in this instance. It is surely the best metric of how difficult the application process is for asylum seekers?
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2023 UK had something like 85k asylum applications and that compares to Germany who had about 335k.
For Germany's 2023 period they determined about 260k applications and about half were rejected.
UK typically grants a greater % of applications but from far fewer numbers of applications.
What is clear to me is that asylum seekers make up about 7% of the net migration figures in this country (2023) so it is not a massive contributor to issue of immigration.
in 2023 we had net migration of 685k, of which about 50k were asylum seekers.
IMO this country should be able to tolerate these sorts of levels where people are coming here out of necessity as opposed to being economic migrants.
It is controlling the economic migration that needs to be properly addressed, ensuring we are getting the right balance of skills coming in, and tbh this includes low skilled work as there is a massive shortage in this country as the natives seem less and less willing to work hard and get their hands dirty.
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Yeh, agree with all of that.
We also need to start processing the asylum applications a lot quicker by the looks of things.
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Getting applications processed quickly and people settled would save a fack ton of money.
The Tories pessed an absolutely obscene amount of cash up the wall housing asylum seekers, who could otherwise with settled status have been both fending for themselves and contributing to the economy, in hotels.
Another one from their infinitely long list of crimes against the state.
posted on 31/7/24
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 7 minutes ago
It is controlling the economic migration that needs to be properly addressed, ensuring we are getting the right balance of skills coming in, and tbh this includes low skilled work as there is a massive shortage in this country as the natives seem less and less willing to work hard and get their hands dirty.
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The Gig Economy is partly to blame for that, I don’t actually blame people for not wanting to work for £4 an hour or even less
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Aye, but you get to horse through town pavements on an illegally fast bike with no lights and get given an impossibly thick black puffer jacket uniform.
posted on 31/7/24
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 3 hours, 38 minutes ago
Apart from that, the statements in that comment are complete falsehoods which I was tryna correct. We don't approve a higher percentage of applicants than our peer countries, and we receive far less applications as well. A few minutes of research would demonstrate that but the poster doesn't care if his statements are accurate. Lies are their forte.
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The Government website shows that our asylum approval rate (following appeal) was 66% between 2018-2020. The website also shows that there is a steady rise over that period, with 2021 figures expected to be 77%. How does that compare with other European countries?
And I don't really see how the percentage is useless in this instance. It is surely the best metric of how difficult the application process is for asylum seekers?
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2023 UK had something like 85k asylum applications and that compares to Germany who had about 335k.
For Germany's 2023 period they determined about 260k applications and about half were rejected.
UK typically grants a greater % of applications but from far fewer numbers of applications.
What is clear to me is that asylum seekers make up about 7% of the net migration figures in this country (2023) so it is not a massive contributor to issue of immigration.
in 2023 we had net migration of 685k, of which about 50k were asylum seekers.
IMO this country should be able to tolerate these sorts of levels where people are coming here out of necessity as opposed to being economic migrants.
It is controlling the economic migration that needs to be properly addressed, ensuring we are getting the right balance of skills coming in, and tbh this includes low skilled work as there is a massive shortage in this country as the natives seem less and less willing to work hard and get their hands dirty.
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Yeh, agree with all of that.
We also need to start processing the asylum applications a lot quicker by the looks of things.
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50,000 may seem like a relatively small amount when comparing to the total of 685,000 net and 1,200,000 in. But do remember that our net figure was around 50k for years and years and years. So it’s still pretty significant
posted on 31/7/24
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 hour, 38 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 3 hours, 38 minutes ago
Apart from that, the statements in that comment are complete falsehoods which I was tryna correct. We don't approve a higher percentage of applicants than our peer countries, and we receive far less applications as well. A few minutes of research would demonstrate that but the poster doesn't care if his statements are accurate. Lies are their forte.
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The Government website shows that our asylum approval rate (following appeal) was 66% between 2018-2020. The website also shows that there is a steady rise over that period, with 2021 figures expected to be 77%. How does that compare with other European countries?
And I don't really see how the percentage is useless in this instance. It is surely the best metric of how difficult the application process is for asylum seekers?
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Fair enough, my point was that the number of applications received by a country makes a difference. If one country receives a million applications and approves 100,000. Another receives 100,000 applications and approves them all. One has 10% the other has 100% but they approved the same number. The comparison between the percentage approved by the two countries will not be a reflection of how difficult or easy it is to obtain approval.
posted on 31/7/24
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 3 hours, 38 minutes ago
Apart from that, the statements in that comment are complete falsehoods which I was tryna correct. We don't approve a higher percentage of applicants than our peer countries, and we receive far less applications as well. A few minutes of research would demonstrate that but the poster doesn't care if his statements are accurate. Lies are their forte.
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The Government website shows that our asylum approval rate (following appeal) was 66% between 2018-2020. The website also shows that there is a steady rise over that period, with 2021 figures expected to be 77%. How does that compare with other European countries?
And I don't really see how the percentage is useless in this instance. It is surely the best metric of how difficult the application process is for asylum seekers?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
2023 UK had something like 85k asylum applications and that compares to Germany who had about 335k.
For Germany's 2023 period they determined about 260k applications and about half were rejected.
UK typically grants a greater % of applications but from far fewer numbers of applications.
What is clear to me is that asylum seekers make up about 7% of the net migration figures in this country (2023) so it is not a massive contributor to issue of immigration.
in 2023 we had net migration of 685k, of which about 50k were asylum seekers.
IMO this country should be able to tolerate these sorts of levels where people are coming here out of necessity as opposed to being economic migrants.
It is controlling the economic migration that needs to be properly addressed, ensuring we are getting the right balance of skills coming in, and tbh this includes low skilled work as there is a massive shortage in this country as the natives seem less and less willing to work hard and get their hands dirty.
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Yeh, agree with all of that.
We also need to start processing the asylum applications a lot quicker by the looks of things.
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50,000 may seem like a relatively small amount when comparing to the total of 685,000 net and 1,200,000 in. But do remember that our net figure was around 50k for years and years and years. So it’s still pretty significant
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We still exported 532,000 people.
posted on 31/7/24
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 3 hours, 38 minutes ago
Apart from that, the statements in that comment are complete falsehoods which I was tryna correct. We don't approve a higher percentage of applicants than our peer countries, and we receive far less applications as well. A few minutes of research would demonstrate that but the poster doesn't care if his statements are accurate. Lies are their forte.
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The Government website shows that our asylum approval rate (following appeal) was 66% between 2018-2020. The website also shows that there is a steady rise over that period, with 2021 figures expected to be 77%. How does that compare with other European countries?
And I don't really see how the percentage is useless in this instance. It is surely the best metric of how difficult the application process is for asylum seekers?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
2023 UK had something like 85k asylum applications and that compares to Germany who had about 335k.
For Germany's 2023 period they determined about 260k applications and about half were rejected.
UK typically grants a greater % of applications but from far fewer numbers of applications.
What is clear to me is that asylum seekers make up about 7% of the net migration figures in this country (2023) so it is not a massive contributor to issue of immigration.
in 2023 we had net migration of 685k, of which about 50k were asylum seekers.
IMO this country should be able to tolerate these sorts of levels where people are coming here out of necessity as opposed to being economic migrants.
It is controlling the economic migration that needs to be properly addressed, ensuring we are getting the right balance of skills coming in, and tbh this includes low skilled work as there is a massive shortage in this country as the natives seem less and less willing to work hard and get their hands dirty.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeh, agree with all of that.
We also need to start processing the asylum applications a lot quicker by the looks of things.
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50,000 may seem like a relatively small amount when comparing to the total of 685,000 net and 1,200,000 in. But do remember that our net figure was around 50k for years and years and years. So it’s still pretty significant
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True but the world has changed and is far more unstable than in most our lifetimes. Those seeking Asylum in the EU was at a low of about 200k in 2005 but since then it has gone off the charts, peaking at over 1.3m in 2015 and currently about 1.13m.
The whole of the continent is seeing massively increased demands and the UK is no different.
posted on 31/7/24
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 3 hours, 38 minutes ago
Apart from that, the statements in that comment are complete falsehoods which I was tryna correct. We don't approve a higher percentage of applicants than our peer countries, and we receive far less applications as well. A few minutes of research would demonstrate that but the poster doesn't care if his statements are accurate. Lies are their forte.
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The Government website shows that our asylum approval rate (following appeal) was 66% between 2018-2020. The website also shows that there is a steady rise over that period, with 2021 figures expected to be 77%. How does that compare with other European countries?
And I don't really see how the percentage is useless in this instance. It is surely the best metric of how difficult the application process is for asylum seekers?
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2023 UK had something like 85k asylum applications and that compares to Germany who had about 335k.
For Germany's 2023 period they determined about 260k applications and about half were rejected.
UK typically grants a greater % of applications but from far fewer numbers of applications.
What is clear to me is that asylum seekers make up about 7% of the net migration figures in this country (2023) so it is not a massive contributor to issue of immigration.
in 2023 we had net migration of 685k, of which about 50k were asylum seekers.
IMO this country should be able to tolerate these sorts of levels where people are coming here out of necessity as opposed to being economic migrants.
It is controlling the economic migration that needs to be properly addressed, ensuring we are getting the right balance of skills coming in, and tbh this includes low skilled work as there is a massive shortage in this country as the natives seem less and less willing to work hard and get their hands dirty.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeh, agree with all of that.
We also need to start processing the asylum applications a lot quicker by the looks of things.
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50,000 may seem like a relatively small amount when comparing to the total of 685,000 net and 1,200,000 in. But do remember that our net figure was around 50k for years and years and years. So it’s still pretty significant
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We still exported 532,000 people.
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Less than 20% of those are British, about half non-EU and the rest EU
posted on 31/7/24
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 3 hours, 38 minutes ago
Apart from that, the statements in that comment are complete falsehoods which I was tryna correct. We don't approve a higher percentage of applicants than our peer countries, and we receive far less applications as well. A few minutes of research would demonstrate that but the poster doesn't care if his statements are accurate. Lies are their forte.
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The Government website shows that our asylum approval rate (following appeal) was 66% between 2018-2020. The website also shows that there is a steady rise over that period, with 2021 figures expected to be 77%. How does that compare with other European countries?
And I don't really see how the percentage is useless in this instance. It is surely the best metric of how difficult the application process is for asylum seekers?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
2023 UK had something like 85k asylum applications and that compares to Germany who had about 335k.
For Germany's 2023 period they determined about 260k applications and about half were rejected.
UK typically grants a greater % of applications but from far fewer numbers of applications.
What is clear to me is that asylum seekers make up about 7% of the net migration figures in this country (2023) so it is not a massive contributor to issue of immigration.
in 2023 we had net migration of 685k, of which about 50k were asylum seekers.
IMO this country should be able to tolerate these sorts of levels where people are coming here out of necessity as opposed to being economic migrants.
It is controlling the economic migration that needs to be properly addressed, ensuring we are getting the right balance of skills coming in, and tbh this includes low skilled work as there is a massive shortage in this country as the natives seem less and less willing to work hard and get their hands dirty.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeh, agree with all of that.
We also need to start processing the asylum applications a lot quicker by the looks of things.
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50,000 may seem like a relatively small amount when comparing to the total of 685,000 net and 1,200,000 in. But do remember that our net figure was around 50k for years and years and years. So it’s still pretty significant
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We still exported 532,000 people.
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And?
posted on 31/7/24
And?
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Jus sayin. That's 532,000 "immigrants" that are gonna be somebody else's problem.
posted on 31/7/24
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
And?
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Jus sayin. That's 532,000 "immigrants" that are gonna be somebody else's problem.
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Not true.
more than 80% are non-British. So it is more likely that they are returning to their native country, particularly as a fair chunk of these are leaving having completed a British education.
posted on 31/7/24
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 hour, 38 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 3 hours, 38 minutes ago
Apart from that, the statements in that comment are complete falsehoods which I was tryna correct. We don't approve a higher percentage of applicants than our peer countries, and we receive far less applications as well. A few minutes of research would demonstrate that but the poster doesn't care if his statements are accurate. Lies are their forte.
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The Government website shows that our asylum approval rate (following appeal) was 66% between 2018-2020. The website also shows that there is a steady rise over that period, with 2021 figures expected to be 77%. How does that compare with other European countries?
And I don't really see how the percentage is useless in this instance. It is surely the best metric of how difficult the application process is for asylum seekers?
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Fair enough, my point was that the number of applications received by a country makes a difference. If one country receives a million applications and approves 100,000. Another receives 100,000 applications and approves them all. One has 10% the other has 100% but they approved the same number. The comparison between the percentage approved by the two countries will not be a reflection of how difficult or easy it is to obtain approval.
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Why wouldn't it be a reflection? I don't understand that logic.
posted on 31/7/24
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 50 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 3 hours, 38 minutes ago
Apart from that, the statements in that comment are complete falsehoods which I was tryna correct. We don't approve a higher percentage of applicants than our peer countries, and we receive far less applications as well. A few minutes of research would demonstrate that but the poster doesn't care if his statements are accurate. Lies are their forte.
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The Government website shows that our asylum approval rate (following appeal) was 66% between 2018-2020. The website also shows that there is a steady rise over that period, with 2021 figures expected to be 77%. How does that compare with other European countries?
And I don't really see how the percentage is useless in this instance. It is surely the best metric of how difficult the application process is for asylum seekers?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
2023 UK had something like 85k asylum applications and that compares to Germany who had about 335k.
For Germany's 2023 period they determined about 260k applications and about half were rejected.
UK typically grants a greater % of applications but from far fewer numbers of applications.
What is clear to me is that asylum seekers make up about 7% of the net migration figures in this country (2023) so it is not a massive contributor to issue of immigration.
in 2023 we had net migration of 685k, of which about 50k were asylum seekers.
IMO this country should be able to tolerate these sorts of levels where people are coming here out of necessity as opposed to being economic migrants.
It is controlling the economic migration that needs to be properly addressed, ensuring we are getting the right balance of skills coming in, and tbh this includes low skilled work as there is a massive shortage in this country as the natives seem less and less willing to work hard and get their hands dirty.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeh, agree with all of that.
We also need to start processing the asylum applications a lot quicker by the looks of things.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
50,000 may seem like a relatively small amount when comparing to the total of 685,000 net and 1,200,000 in. But do remember that our net figure was around 50k for years and years and years. So it’s still pretty significant
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We still exported 532,000 people.
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Less than 20% of those are British, about half non-EU and the rest EU
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And?
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