The real patriots are the ones that were there the next day to clean up and repair all the damage to the community.
I dont sympathise with either I even condemmed it multiple times on this thread.
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I asked Nick how the government have supported the riot in Leeds. He didn't answer.
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Sorry didn't see. I said seem to as it was met with silence or at least a huge difference in reaction. And we've obviously seen the fall out of this weeks protests and the chance in stance from starmer and co.
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You obviously weren't paying attention then.
https://www.itv.com/news/calendar/2024-07-18/disturbance-involving-agency-workers-sparks-mass-disorder
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Nickasaurus seems to have dipped into the rich Chelsea FC heritage of the Headhunters, Combat 18, etc.
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Said this would happen earlier in the thread. So predictable.
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You can't post apologetics for riots targeting ethnic minorities these days without being called a racist
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see. Nobody on this thread as far as I can see has posted "apologetics" for the riots? Sums up mine and others points.
Haha!
https://ow.ly/wsvO50SPUak
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posted 15 seconds ago
I asked Nick how the government have supported the riot in Leeds. He didn't answer.
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Sorry didn't see. I said seem to as it was met with silence or at least a huge difference in reaction. And we've obviously seen the fall out of this weeks protests and the chance in stance from starmer and co.
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You obviously weren't paying attention then.
https://www.itv.com/news/calendar/2024-07-18/disturbance-involving-agency-workers-sparks-mass-disorder
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Nickasaurus seems to have dipped into the rich Chelsea FC heritage of the Headhunters, Combat 18, etc.
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Said this would happen earlier in the thread. So predictable.
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Come on Nick, the Chelsea of the past you're trying to portray in comparison to what it is today isn't accurate.
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I've not mentioned chelsea once other than the area I mentioned as someone tried to mug me.
Not sure why you keep bringing up chelsea football club?
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You said 'even in Chelsea' about how it is now as if it's exceptional. When has this ever been the case, from hooligans and racists in the 70's and 80's to Russian Oligarchs more recently Chelsea has always been associated with crime.
I'm talking about both the area which includes the football club.
Very clear to see that so many on this site just swallow whatever label the MSM stick on certain individuals and movements and follow that narrative instead of looking into who these people ACTUALLY are and what their motives are for themselves
Why I don’t bother debating much on this site very often
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posted 1 hour, 17 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by John McGlashan (U1734)
posted 14 minutes ago
Here is an Index of Multiple Deprivation map of London from 2010 (red means bad):
https://ibb.co/L94dG1Q
Here is the same map from 2019 (latest data):
https://ibb.co/GPK4Ff9
To summarise on the above, there are far fewer areas of dark red in 2019 compared to 2010, showing London is becoming less deprived.
Oh but it's the crime we are more concerned about I hear you say.
Well here is the crime domain from 2015 (again, red bad):
https://ibb.co/kKYTzfG
Compare that to the latest data for crime (2019):
https://ibb.co/kKYTzfG
As you can see, London is getting relatively less deprived over the years and relatively safer.
Compare that with levels of immigration over the same period, the data shows that immigration is making London SAFER.
Your statistically invalided anecdotal "evidence" can now be dismissed.
I now consider the matter to be closed.
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and you think its valid to link completely separate stats on crime and deprivation with Immigration.
That would be like someone concluding that serious knife crime has gone up over the last 5 years, and so has immigration, so it's a result of immigration.
You are on no ground to question the validity of others 'evidence'
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Just stating facts.
Also with global warming and more sunny days, it is actually making people's skin darker in general. So darker skin actually = safer area.
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So basically if you want to stop climate change you’re a dirty, darker-skin-hating racist?
Chelsea as an area has been consistently known as one of the poshest areas of the country.
Football hooliganism at chelsea and its history has never had any correlation with the surrounding area.
Be like someone being attacked on brighton beach and linking it to the football club. Doesn't make sense.
In terms of areas, chelsea is not known for its high level of mugging or street crime.
comment by 1 Father- 1 Love - 2 Reds (U13312)
posted 2 minutes ago
Very clear to see that so many on this site just swallow whatever label the MSM stick on certain individuals and movements and follow that narrative instead of looking into who these people ACTUALLY are and what their motives are for themselves
Why I don’t bother debating much on this site very often
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You do your own research.
comment by 1 Father- 1 Love - 2 Reds (U13312)
posted 2 minutes ago
Very clear to see that so many on this site just swallow whatever label the MSM stick on certain individuals and movements and follow that narrative instead of looking into who these people ACTUALLY are and what their motives are for themselves
Why I don’t bother debating much on this site very often
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Yeah its a shame. oh well.
"Chelsea as an area has been consistently known as one of the poshest areas of the country."
Very expensive housing and a succession of Russian Oligarchs laundering their money through it will do that to an area.
In the 70's where did all those NF Chelsea fans live?
Low street crime, high financial crime is OK as its less visible.
My takeaways are, its not surprising to see these reactions, from both sides, as wrong as it is and that people have gone over the top. The public imo is being failed and there has been a degradation of our major cities and towns. Living in this country is the hardest its been in my lifetime and people are lashing out, incorrectly in some cases as i've mentioned.
I think we all want the same thing and that's an improvement of our country and state of living.
Sadly the wrong and extreme types will piggy back off the back off this and cause more separation unless our government get a hold of the current situation and consistently tackle these issues.
We can't have little kids being murdered and our public being unsafe.
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by 1 Father- 1 Love - 2 Reds (U13312)
posted 2 minutes ago
Very clear to see that so many on this site just swallow whatever label the MSM stick on certain individuals and movements and follow that narrative instead of looking into who these people ACTUALLY are and what their motives are for themselves
Why I don’t bother debating much on this site very often
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Yeah its a shame. oh well.
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Didn't you used to be quite normal Nick? Just for research purposes, what do you think it was that eventually tipped you? Do you use social media much or is it a friend group or what led you here to be arguing against the intelligent members of the site and joining the monnngo side? It's interesting that you often don't notice that you are losing someone until they have finally gone.
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posted 31 seconds ago
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by 1 Father- 1 Love - 2 Reds (U13312)
posted 2 minutes ago
Very clear to see that so many on this site just swallow whatever label the MSM stick on certain individuals and movements and follow that narrative instead of looking into who these people ACTUALLY are and what their motives are for themselves
Why I don’t bother debating much on this site very often
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Yeah its a shame. oh well.
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Didn't you used to be quite normal Nick? Just for research purposes, what do you think it was that eventually tipped you? Do you use social media much or is it a friend group or what led you here to be arguing against the intelligent members of the site and joining the monnngo side? It's interesting that you often don't notice that you are losing someone until they have finally gone.
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lol shut up barry you donut
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 3 minutes ago
"Chelsea as an area has been consistently known as one of the poshest areas of the country."
Very expensive housing and a succession of Russian Oligarchs laundering their money through it will do that to an area.
In the 70's where did all those NF Chelsea fans live?
Low street crime, high financial crime is OK as its less visible.
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Again dont get the relevance and not said any sort of crime is okay. Just said someone tried to mug me in chelsea which would be considered a rare occurence in years gone by.
Also, you know how thousands of people are coming here on small boats? Well those boats are essentially empty on the return journey aren't they? Would it therefore be possible to fill those boats with people from here? With the only criteria for being put on the boat is using the term "mainstream media" or "MSM". There could be some kind of software installed on everyone's PC as part of an update that automatically triggers a van to come and take you from your house to the boat as soon as you use that term. It would solve the vast majority of the country's problems.
comment by 1 Father- 1 Love - 2 Reds (U13312)
posted 13 minutes ago
Very clear to see that so many on this site just swallow whatever label the MSM stick on certain individuals and movements and follow that narrative instead of looking into who these people ACTUALLY are and what their motives are for themselves
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As usual, absolutely no substance at all in this comment. You haven't actually said anything. Who are these people ACTUALLY? What are their motives? Why are they protesting outside a mosque and linking it to what happened in Southport?
Try and include something tangible in your answer please, preferably beyond "They are fed up and want their country back!"
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posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 36 seconds ago
So the protesters in Leeds don't have a reason to protests but Tommy Robinson does? The Leeds protesters were provoked by police or child services I think. Completely different from Tommy and his thugs attacking cops and mosques based on lies and propaganda.
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Not sure they were necessarily provoked. It was a social services situation that the police had to get involved with.
Both riots were unacceptable and no one should be making excuses for either.
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Of course both riots are unacceptable and you are correct they were definitely but provoked. The point I wanted to make is that the root cause and origin of both riots is not the same and their consideration and handling therefore cannot be the same IMO. The Leeds riots are more a social issue than the Tommy Robinson protests which are very political, but with aspects of social too.
comment by 1 Father- 1 Love - 2 Reds (U13312)
posted 22 minutes ago
Very clear to see that so many on this site just swallow whatever label the MSM stick on certain individuals and movements and follow that narrative instead of looking into who these people ACTUALLY are and what their motives are for themselves
Why I don’t bother debating much on this site very often
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So tell us then who these people ACTUALLY are and what their motives are for themselves? Can't wait.
comment by John McGlashan (U1734)
posted 11 minutes ago
Also, you know how thousands of people are coming here on small boats? Well those boats are essentially empty on the return journey aren't they? Would it therefore be possible to fill those boats with people from here? With the only criteria for being put on the boat is using the term "mainstream media" or "MSM". There could be some kind of software installed on everyone's PC as part of an update that automatically triggers a van to come and take you from your house to the boat as soon as you use that term. It would solve the vast majority of the country's problems.
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I’d go as far as a list of words
SHEEPLE
WAKE UP
WOKE
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posted 1 hour ago
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posted 14 seconds ago
Not at all. Which I've said numerous times. Strange comment.
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I dont think its is.
You think London is a cess pit yet you have lived there all your life? Where do you live?
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Very strange comment.
Grew up Around Wimbledon/morden. Moved out last year to Surrey.
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asking you whereyou live in London that makes you say it's a cesspit, is a strange comment? Dont think so.
Wimbledon and Morden aren't cess pits though. They are quite nice.
But some of the other parts of London that are/were in Surrey, are though.
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 28 minutes ago
Chelsea as an area has been consistently known as one of the poshest areas of the country.
Football hooliganism at chelsea and its history has never had any correlation with the surrounding area.
Be like someone being attacked on brighton beach and linking it to the football club. Doesn't make sense.
In terms of areas, chelsea is not known for its high level of mugging or street crime.
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Muggings and Pickpocketting in Central London have risen three-fold plus in the past two years as criminals increasingly target wealthy people and foreign tourists
comment by John McGlashan (U1734)
posted 17 minutes ago
Also, you know how thousands of people are coming here on small boats? Well those boats are essentially empty on the return journey aren't they? Would it therefore be possible to fill those boats with people from here? With the only criteria for being put on the boat is using the term "mainstream media" or "MSM". There could be some kind of software installed on everyone's PC as part of an update that automatically triggers a van to come and take you from your house to the boat as soon as you use that term. It would solve the vast majority of the country's problems.
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This would be a disaster. There wouldn't be enough boats to take people out. We already spend trillions taking care of people coming in, now you want us to spend trillions more holding people waiting to go out?
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comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 28 minutes ago
Chelsea as an area has been consistently known as one of the poshest areas of the country.
Football hooliganism at chelsea and its history has never had any correlation with the surrounding area.
Be like someone being attacked on brighton beach and linking it to the football club. Doesn't make sense.
In terms of areas, chelsea is not known for its high level of mugging or street crime.
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Muggings and Pickpocketting in Central London have risen three-fold plus in the past two years as criminals increasingly target wealthy people and foreign tourists
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Also not enough police, police patrols and police presence or action. Cases take years in court and perps can get away as witnesses die or move away/abroad. They are demoralised and need a boost from this labour government.
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posted on 2/8/24
The real patriots are the ones that were there the next day to clean up and repair all the damage to the community.
posted on 2/8/24
I dont sympathise with either I even condemmed it multiple times on this thread.
posted on 2/8/24
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 15 seconds ago
I asked Nick how the government have supported the riot in Leeds. He didn't answer.
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Sorry didn't see. I said seem to as it was met with silence or at least a huge difference in reaction. And we've obviously seen the fall out of this weeks protests and the chance in stance from starmer and co.
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You obviously weren't paying attention then.
https://www.itv.com/news/calendar/2024-07-18/disturbance-involving-agency-workers-sparks-mass-disorder
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Nickasaurus seems to have dipped into the rich Chelsea FC heritage of the Headhunters, Combat 18, etc.
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Said this would happen earlier in the thread. So predictable.
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You can't post apologetics for riots targeting ethnic minorities these days without being called a racist
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see. Nobody on this thread as far as I can see has posted "apologetics" for the riots? Sums up mine and others points.
posted on 2/8/24
Haha!
https://ow.ly/wsvO50SPUak
posted on 2/8/24
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 15 seconds ago
I asked Nick how the government have supported the riot in Leeds. He didn't answer.
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Sorry didn't see. I said seem to as it was met with silence or at least a huge difference in reaction. And we've obviously seen the fall out of this weeks protests and the chance in stance from starmer and co.
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You obviously weren't paying attention then.
https://www.itv.com/news/calendar/2024-07-18/disturbance-involving-agency-workers-sparks-mass-disorder
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Nickasaurus seems to have dipped into the rich Chelsea FC heritage of the Headhunters, Combat 18, etc.
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Said this would happen earlier in the thread. So predictable.
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Come on Nick, the Chelsea of the past you're trying to portray in comparison to what it is today isn't accurate.
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I've not mentioned chelsea once other than the area I mentioned as someone tried to mug me.
Not sure why you keep bringing up chelsea football club?
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You said 'even in Chelsea' about how it is now as if it's exceptional. When has this ever been the case, from hooligans and racists in the 70's and 80's to Russian Oligarchs more recently Chelsea has always been associated with crime.
I'm talking about both the area which includes the football club.
posted on 2/8/24
Very clear to see that so many on this site just swallow whatever label the MSM stick on certain individuals and movements and follow that narrative instead of looking into who these people ACTUALLY are and what their motives are for themselves
Why I don’t bother debating much on this site very often
posted on 2/8/24
comment by John McGlashan (U1734)
posted 1 hour, 17 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by John McGlashan (U1734)
posted 14 minutes ago
Here is an Index of Multiple Deprivation map of London from 2010 (red means bad):
https://ibb.co/L94dG1Q
Here is the same map from 2019 (latest data):
https://ibb.co/GPK4Ff9
To summarise on the above, there are far fewer areas of dark red in 2019 compared to 2010, showing London is becoming less deprived.
Oh but it's the crime we are more concerned about I hear you say.
Well here is the crime domain from 2015 (again, red bad):
https://ibb.co/kKYTzfG
Compare that to the latest data for crime (2019):
https://ibb.co/kKYTzfG
As you can see, London is getting relatively less deprived over the years and relatively safer.
Compare that with levels of immigration over the same period, the data shows that immigration is making London SAFER.
Your statistically invalided anecdotal "evidence" can now be dismissed.
I now consider the matter to be closed.
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and you think its valid to link completely separate stats on crime and deprivation with Immigration.
That would be like someone concluding that serious knife crime has gone up over the last 5 years, and so has immigration, so it's a result of immigration.
You are on no ground to question the validity of others 'evidence'
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Just stating facts.
Also with global warming and more sunny days, it is actually making people's skin darker in general. So darker skin actually = safer area.
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So basically if you want to stop climate change you’re a dirty, darker-skin-hating racist?
posted on 2/8/24
Chelsea as an area has been consistently known as one of the poshest areas of the country.
Football hooliganism at chelsea and its history has never had any correlation with the surrounding area.
Be like someone being attacked on brighton beach and linking it to the football club. Doesn't make sense.
In terms of areas, chelsea is not known for its high level of mugging or street crime.
posted on 2/8/24
comment by 1 Father- 1 Love - 2 Reds (U13312)
posted 2 minutes ago
Very clear to see that so many on this site just swallow whatever label the MSM stick on certain individuals and movements and follow that narrative instead of looking into who these people ACTUALLY are and what their motives are for themselves
Why I don’t bother debating much on this site very often
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You do your own research.
posted on 2/8/24
comment by 1 Father- 1 Love - 2 Reds (U13312)
posted 2 minutes ago
Very clear to see that so many on this site just swallow whatever label the MSM stick on certain individuals and movements and follow that narrative instead of looking into who these people ACTUALLY are and what their motives are for themselves
Why I don’t bother debating much on this site very often
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Yeah its a shame. oh well.
posted on 2/8/24
"Chelsea as an area has been consistently known as one of the poshest areas of the country."
Very expensive housing and a succession of Russian Oligarchs laundering their money through it will do that to an area.
In the 70's where did all those NF Chelsea fans live?
Low street crime, high financial crime is OK as its less visible.
posted on 2/8/24
My takeaways are, its not surprising to see these reactions, from both sides, as wrong as it is and that people have gone over the top. The public imo is being failed and there has been a degradation of our major cities and towns. Living in this country is the hardest its been in my lifetime and people are lashing out, incorrectly in some cases as i've mentioned.
I think we all want the same thing and that's an improvement of our country and state of living.
Sadly the wrong and extreme types will piggy back off the back off this and cause more separation unless our government get a hold of the current situation and consistently tackle these issues.
We can't have little kids being murdered and our public being unsafe.
posted on 2/8/24
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by 1 Father- 1 Love - 2 Reds (U13312)
posted 2 minutes ago
Very clear to see that so many on this site just swallow whatever label the MSM stick on certain individuals and movements and follow that narrative instead of looking into who these people ACTUALLY are and what their motives are for themselves
Why I don’t bother debating much on this site very often
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Yeah its a shame. oh well.
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Didn't you used to be quite normal Nick? Just for research purposes, what do you think it was that eventually tipped you? Do you use social media much or is it a friend group or what led you here to be arguing against the intelligent members of the site and joining the monnngo side? It's interesting that you often don't notice that you are losing someone until they have finally gone.
posted on 2/8/24
comment by John McGlashan (U1734)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by 1 Father- 1 Love - 2 Reds (U13312)
posted 2 minutes ago
Very clear to see that so many on this site just swallow whatever label the MSM stick on certain individuals and movements and follow that narrative instead of looking into who these people ACTUALLY are and what their motives are for themselves
Why I don’t bother debating much on this site very often
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Yeah its a shame. oh well.
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Didn't you used to be quite normal Nick? Just for research purposes, what do you think it was that eventually tipped you? Do you use social media much or is it a friend group or what led you here to be arguing against the intelligent members of the site and joining the monnngo side? It's interesting that you often don't notice that you are losing someone until they have finally gone.
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lol shut up barry you donut
posted on 2/8/24
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 3 minutes ago
"Chelsea as an area has been consistently known as one of the poshest areas of the country."
Very expensive housing and a succession of Russian Oligarchs laundering their money through it will do that to an area.
In the 70's where did all those NF Chelsea fans live?
Low street crime, high financial crime is OK as its less visible.
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Again dont get the relevance and not said any sort of crime is okay. Just said someone tried to mug me in chelsea which would be considered a rare occurence in years gone by.
posted on 2/8/24
Also, you know how thousands of people are coming here on small boats? Well those boats are essentially empty on the return journey aren't they? Would it therefore be possible to fill those boats with people from here? With the only criteria for being put on the boat is using the term "mainstream media" or "MSM". There could be some kind of software installed on everyone's PC as part of an update that automatically triggers a van to come and take you from your house to the boat as soon as you use that term. It would solve the vast majority of the country's problems.
posted on 2/8/24
comment by 1 Father- 1 Love - 2 Reds (U13312)
posted 13 minutes ago
Very clear to see that so many on this site just swallow whatever label the MSM stick on certain individuals and movements and follow that narrative instead of looking into who these people ACTUALLY are and what their motives are for themselves
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As usual, absolutely no substance at all in this comment. You haven't actually said anything. Who are these people ACTUALLY? What are their motives? Why are they protesting outside a mosque and linking it to what happened in Southport?
Try and include something tangible in your answer please, preferably beyond "They are fed up and want their country back!"
posted on 2/8/24
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 36 seconds ago
So the protesters in Leeds don't have a reason to protests but Tommy Robinson does? The Leeds protesters were provoked by police or child services I think. Completely different from Tommy and his thugs attacking cops and mosques based on lies and propaganda.
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Not sure they were necessarily provoked. It was a social services situation that the police had to get involved with.
Both riots were unacceptable and no one should be making excuses for either.
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Of course both riots are unacceptable and you are correct they were definitely but provoked. The point I wanted to make is that the root cause and origin of both riots is not the same and their consideration and handling therefore cannot be the same IMO. The Leeds riots are more a social issue than the Tommy Robinson protests which are very political, but with aspects of social too.
posted on 2/8/24
*not provoked
posted on 2/8/24
comment by 1 Father- 1 Love - 2 Reds (U13312)
posted 22 minutes ago
Very clear to see that so many on this site just swallow whatever label the MSM stick on certain individuals and movements and follow that narrative instead of looking into who these people ACTUALLY are and what their motives are for themselves
Why I don’t bother debating much on this site very often
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So tell us then who these people ACTUALLY are and what their motives are for themselves? Can't wait.
posted on 2/8/24
comment by John McGlashan (U1734)
posted 11 minutes ago
Also, you know how thousands of people are coming here on small boats? Well those boats are essentially empty on the return journey aren't they? Would it therefore be possible to fill those boats with people from here? With the only criteria for being put on the boat is using the term "mainstream media" or "MSM". There could be some kind of software installed on everyone's PC as part of an update that automatically triggers a van to come and take you from your house to the boat as soon as you use that term. It would solve the vast majority of the country's problems.
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I’d go as far as a list of words
SHEEPLE
WAKE UP
WOKE
posted on 2/8/24
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 1 hour ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 14 seconds ago
Not at all. Which I've said numerous times. Strange comment.
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I dont think its is.
You think London is a cess pit yet you have lived there all your life? Where do you live?
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Very strange comment.
Grew up Around Wimbledon/morden. Moved out last year to Surrey.
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asking you whereyou live in London that makes you say it's a cesspit, is a strange comment? Dont think so.
Wimbledon and Morden aren't cess pits though. They are quite nice.
But some of the other parts of London that are/were in Surrey, are though.
posted on 2/8/24
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 28 minutes ago
Chelsea as an area has been consistently known as one of the poshest areas of the country.
Football hooliganism at chelsea and its history has never had any correlation with the surrounding area.
Be like someone being attacked on brighton beach and linking it to the football club. Doesn't make sense.
In terms of areas, chelsea is not known for its high level of mugging or street crime.
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Muggings and Pickpocketting in Central London have risen three-fold plus in the past two years as criminals increasingly target wealthy people and foreign tourists
posted on 2/8/24
comment by John McGlashan (U1734)
posted 17 minutes ago
Also, you know how thousands of people are coming here on small boats? Well those boats are essentially empty on the return journey aren't they? Would it therefore be possible to fill those boats with people from here? With the only criteria for being put on the boat is using the term "mainstream media" or "MSM". There could be some kind of software installed on everyone's PC as part of an update that automatically triggers a van to come and take you from your house to the boat as soon as you use that term. It would solve the vast majority of the country's problems.
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This would be a disaster. There wouldn't be enough boats to take people out. We already spend trillions taking care of people coming in, now you want us to spend trillions more holding people waiting to go out?
posted on 2/8/24
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 28 minutes ago
Chelsea as an area has been consistently known as one of the poshest areas of the country.
Football hooliganism at chelsea and its history has never had any correlation with the surrounding area.
Be like someone being attacked on brighton beach and linking it to the football club. Doesn't make sense.
In terms of areas, chelsea is not known for its high level of mugging or street crime.
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Muggings and Pickpocketting in Central London have risen three-fold plus in the past two years as criminals increasingly target wealthy people and foreign tourists
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Also not enough police, police patrols and police presence or action. Cases take years in court and perps can get away as witnesses die or move away/abroad. They are demoralised and need a boost from this labour government.
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