comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 4 minutes ago
Sander Berge not in Burnley's squad tonight (Wout is though!) but some suggestion that he still has a knock and is missing because of injury.
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Might be because some big team is dumb enough to spend money on him
Those Branthwaite stories aren't going away either.
Three CBs purchased would be a bit too much in some ways but perhaps it's a different set up ETH is going with eventually where we're strong and comfortable bringing the ball out from the back.
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 3 minutes ago
Those Branthwaite stories aren't going away either.
Three CBs purchased would be a bit too much in some ways but perhaps it's a different set up ETH is going with eventually where we're strong and comfortable bringing the ball out from the back.
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Don’t believe it, I think we’ll sign a CM and we’re done.
comment by Sydney Sweeney (U11781)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 3 minutes ago
Those Branthwaite stories aren't going away either.
Three CBs purchased would be a bit too much in some ways but perhaps it's a different set up ETH is going with eventually where we're strong and comfortable bringing the ball out from the back.
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Don’t believe it, I think we’ll sign a CM and we’re done.
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I doubt it too but wouldn't be too surprised either. Yoro, De Ligt, Martinez, Branthwaite would give us great options and I'm sure Yoro and Branthwaite would be used at FB at times too. Well nominally at FB anyway.
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Sydney Sweeney (U11781)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 3 minutes ago
Those Branthwaite stories aren't going away either.
Three CBs purchased would be a bit too much in some ways but perhaps it's a different set up ETH is going with eventually where we're strong and comfortable bringing the ball out from the back.
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Don’t believe it, I think we’ll sign a CM and we’re done.
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I doubt it too but wouldn't be too surprised either. Yoro, De Ligt, Martinez, Branthwaite would give us great options and I'm sure Yoro and Branthwaite would be used at FB at times too. Well nominally at FB anyway.
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Centre halves being converted to full backs seems all the rage these days.
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Sydney Sweeney (U11781)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 3 minutes ago
Those Branthwaite stories aren't going away either.
Three CBs purchased would be a bit too much in some ways but perhaps it's a different set up ETH is going with eventually where we're strong and comfortable bringing the ball out from the back.
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Don’t believe it, I think we’ll sign a CM and we’re done.
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I doubt it too but wouldn't be too surprised either. Yoro, De Ligt, Martinez, Branthwaite would give us great options and I'm sure Yoro and Branthwaite would be used at FB at times too. Well nominally at FB anyway.
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Centre halves being converted to full backs seems all the rage these days.
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I'm not saying it will happen of course, and I think it's unlikely, but those rumours aren't going away.
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
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posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 17 minutes ago
Really hope it's not Sander Berge who we sign. He will just be the latest in a long line of players who aren't good enough to play for this club but we signed them anyway. Even for £20-25m it's not worth it. We need to sign more quality players and if they aren't available then don't waste the money on more dross causing more issues down the line.
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If we go for Berge it’ll be to replace Amrabat I think. A stop gap until dealing with Casemiro’s replacement next summer.
Not what I’d do personally, but maybe there’s no Plan B for Ugarte right now.
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Even as a stop gap it's too much. It's another 20-30m thrown away and probably 80-100k a week on a player we won't be able to shift.
As much as we need reinforcements, I'd rather give the minutes to one of the academy lads than waste more money on a player who isn't good enough as I said.
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Berge is 26 so it's not like he's only good for 2 seasons with no resale value. If he was around £20m, we wouldn't be much out of pocket. If he's used as a squad rotation player to give some others a rest or cover the inevitable injuries/suspensions.
If our new recruitment team reckon Berge is a good signing I would back them.
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 minute ago
If our new recruitment team reckon Berge is a good signing I would back them.
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So long as it’s a reasonable fee and we dont pay him so much we can’t ship him. I agree.
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 29 seconds ago
If our new recruitment team reckon Berge is a good signing I would back them.
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Our new recruitment team haven't had a lot of time to do anything yet. Probably why we have gone for two more former ETH players and a Dutch striker this window as they haven't had a great deal of time to do anything given how long it took for them to start.
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 minute ago
If our new recruitment team reckon Berge is a good signing I would back them.
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So long as it’s a reasonable fee and we dont pay him so much we can’t ship him. I agree.
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This.
I don't think our recruitment team have had much impact on this window lads. If they have recommended De Ligt and Mazraoui then that's a hell of a coincidence isn't it? Even Zirkzee who is Dutch and a former Bayern reserve player which is the exact same path as ETH.
I don't think we are going to truly benefit from Ashworth and his team until next summer. This one probably came too soon.
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 29 seconds ago
If our new recruitment team reckon Berge is a good signing I would back them.
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Our new recruitment team haven't had a lot of time to do anything yet. Probably why we have gone for two more former ETH players and a Dutch striker this window as they haven't had a great deal of time to do anything given how long it took for them to start.
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I doubt ETH's nationality had much to do with the signings (apart from convincing the player to join). Zirkzee is the profile of player we were looking for and De Lift is an experienced CB with a pretty low price tag. Given the lack of top CBs at the moment, a world class one will be ridiculous money.
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 seconds ago
I don't think our recruitment team have had much impact on this window lads. If they have recommended De Ligt and Mazraoui then that's a hell of a coincidence isn't it? Even Zirkzee who is Dutch and a former Bayern reserve player which is the exact same path as ETH.
I don't think we are going to truly benefit from Ashworth and his team until next summer. This one probably came too soon.
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Didn’t ETH already say that signing De Ligt was someone idea or am I dreaming?
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 29 seconds ago
If our new recruitment team reckon Berge is a good signing I would back them.
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Our new recruitment team haven't had a lot of time to do anything yet. Probably why we have gone for two more former ETH players and a Dutch striker this window as they haven't had a great deal of time to do anything given how long it took for them to start.
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If McTominay leaves and Berge comes in at roughly break even, then to me that represents an improvement to our CM options. McTominay isn't a proper CM player whereas Berge is; he's better in the air, a better passer, better receiving the ball deeper and a better ball carrier. I don't think anyone thinks Berge is a player that will take us to the next level, but we need good squad options and at the right price he seems like he could be just that.
He's at least a more tried and tested (and mobile) PL player than Amrabat and I think it's fair to say that with a run of games towards the end of the season (as well as a brief spell before Xmas that has been somewhat forgotten about) Amrabat showed some value to us. If we could find a squad option that offers an improvement on what Amrabat offered by spending no more than sale of a player like McTominary then I fail to see the problem.
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 seconds ago
I don't think our recruitment team have had much impact on this window lads. If they have recommended De Ligt and Mazraoui then that's a hell of a coincidence isn't it? Even Zirkzee who is Dutch and a former Bayern reserve player which is the exact same path as ETH.
I don't think we are going to truly benefit from Ashworth and his team until next summer. This one probably came too soon.
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Didn’t ETH already say that signing De Ligt was someone idea or am I dreaming?
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I haven't seen anything like that myself but you could be right.
Personally though I think it's fairly obvious ETH retained a lot of input for this specific window. De Ligt and Mazraoui will be the 5th former players he's signed with a further few transfers of Dutch players such as Malacia, Weghorst (loan) and Zirkzee.
I don't think Ashworth and his team was in place early enough for this window myself which is why we've done what we've done.
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 seconds ago
I don't think our recruitment team have had much impact on this window lads. If they have recommended De Ligt and Mazraoui then that's a hell of a coincidence isn't it? Even Zirkzee who is Dutch and a former Bayern reserve player which is the exact same path as ETH.
I don't think we are going to truly benefit from Ashworth and his team until next summer. This one probably came too soon.
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Didn’t ETH already say that signing De Ligt was someone idea or am I dreaming?
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He did. It was a recommendation put forward by the recruitment team.
It was also pretty clear that our first choice CB options were Branthwaite and Todibo - which surely lays to rest any ideas that ETH has the kind of sway over transfer decisions that he may have had previously (which, again I have to stress, was a club/structural issue, and not an ETH one. I know this will continue to be utterly lost on SE85 but I'm a glutton for punishment it seems).
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 seconds ago
I don't think our recruitment team have had much impact on this window lads. If they have recommended De Ligt and Mazraoui then that's a hell of a coincidence isn't it? Even Zirkzee who is Dutch and a former Bayern reserve player which is the exact same path as ETH.
I don't think we are going to truly benefit from Ashworth and his team until next summer. This one probably came too soon.
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Didn’t ETH already say that signing De Ligt was someone idea or am I dreaming?
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I haven't seen anything like that myself but you could be right.
Personally though I think it's fairly obvious ETH retained a lot of input for this specific window. De Ligt and Mazraoui will be the 5th former players he's signed with a further few transfers of Dutch players such as Malacia, Weghorst (loan) and Zirkzee.
I don't think Ashworth and his team was in place early enough for this window myself which is why we've done what we've done.
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Ten Hag said "believe it or not his name didn't come from me in this process"
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 seconds ago
I don't think our recruitment team have had much impact on this window lads. If they have recommended De Ligt and Mazraoui then that's a hell of a coincidence isn't it? Even Zirkzee who is Dutch and a former Bayern reserve player which is the exact same path as ETH.
I don't think we are going to truly benefit from Ashworth and his team until next summer. This one probably came too soon.
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Didn’t ETH already say that signing De Ligt was someone idea or am I dreaming?
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He did. It was a recommendation put forward by the recruitment team.
It was also pretty clear that our first choice CB options were Branthwaite and Todibo - which surely lays to rest any ideas that ETH has the kind of sway over transfer decisions that he may have had previously (which, again I have to stress, was a club/structural issue, and not an ETH one. I know this will continue to be utterly lost on SE85 but I'm a glutton for punishment it seems).
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#agenda
comment by Arctic Monkey (U14534)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 seconds ago
I don't think our recruitment team have had much impact on this window lads. If they have recommended De Ligt and Mazraoui then that's a hell of a coincidence isn't it? Even Zirkzee who is Dutch and a former Bayern reserve player which is the exact same path as ETH.
I don't think we are going to truly benefit from Ashworth and his team until next summer. This one probably came too soon.
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Didn’t ETH already say that signing De Ligt was someone idea or am I dreaming?
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I haven't seen anything like that myself but you could be right.
Personally though I think it's fairly obvious ETH retained a lot of input for this specific window. De Ligt and Mazraoui will be the 5th former players he's signed with a further few transfers of Dutch players such as Malacia, Weghorst (loan) and Zirkzee.
I don't think Ashworth and his team was in place early enough for this window myself which is why we've done what we've done.
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Ten Hag said "believe it or not his name didn't come from me in this process"
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Ashworth said “No, it wasn’t Ten Hag who recommended him, Erik was on holiday. funnily enough it was this random phonecall I got from someone with a Dutch accent, who recommended him, it was odd because it sounded like that person was at the beach.”
We've signed 5 former Ajax players in two years and we've also signed 3 further Dutch players and it's apparently my agenda?
This place cracks me up. 😂
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Arctic Monkey (U14534)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 seconds ago
I don't think our recruitment team have had much impact on this window lads. If they have recommended De Ligt and Mazraoui then that's a hell of a coincidence isn't it? Even Zirkzee who is Dutch and a former Bayern reserve player which is the exact same path as ETH.
I don't think we are going to truly benefit from Ashworth and his team until next summer. This one probably came too soon.
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Didn’t ETH already say that signing De Ligt was someone idea or am I dreaming?
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I haven't seen anything like that myself but you could be right.
Personally though I think it's fairly obvious ETH retained a lot of input for this specific window. De Ligt and Mazraoui will be the 5th former players he's signed with a further few transfers of Dutch players such as Malacia, Weghorst (loan) and Zirkzee.
I don't think Ashworth and his team was in place early enough for this window myself which is why we've done what we've done.
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Ten Hag said "believe it or not his name didn't come from me in this process"
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Ashworth said “No, it wasn’t Ten Hag who recommended him, Erik was on holiday. funnily enough it was this random phonecall I got from someone with a Dutch accent, who recommended him, it was odd because it sounded like that person was at the beach.”
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comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 3 minutes ago
We've signed 5 former Ajax players in two years and we've also signed 3 further Dutch players and it's apparently my agenda?
This place cracks me up. 😂
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He did. It was a recommendation put forward by the recruitment team.
It was also pretty clear that our first choice CB options were Branthwaite and Todibo - which surely lays to rest any ideas that ETH has the kind of sway over transfer decisions that he may have had previously (which, again I have to stress, was a club/structural issue, and not an ETH one. I know this will continue to be utterly lost on SE85 but I'm a glutton for punishment it seems).
As said eloquently by Berba.
comment by Clever - son son son - 'Ten Haaaagendas please' of the year Runner Up 2021 (U18599)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 3 minutes ago
We've signed 5 former Ajax players in two years and we've also signed 3 further Dutch players and it's apparently my agenda?
This place cracks me up. 😂
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He did. It was a recommendation put forward by the recruitment team.
It was also pretty clear that our first choice CB options were Branthwaite and Todibo - which surely lays to rest any ideas that ETH has the kind of sway over transfer decisions that he may have had previously (which, again I have to stress, was a club/structural issue, and not an ETH one. I know this will continue to be utterly lost on SE85 but I'm a glutton for punishment it seems).
As said eloquently by Berba.
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A club structural problem appointing a manager who had wasted 400 million + agreed
Branthwaite and Todibo may well have been the first choice but for very different reasons we weren't able to get those done.
To land on De Ligt and Mazraoui is a hell of a coincidence I must say, especially after Lisandro, Antony and Onana have already joined.
Some would say you'd have to be an absolute moron to believe he's had no input here.
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posted on 12/8/24
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 4 minutes ago
Sander Berge not in Burnley's squad tonight (Wout is though!) but some suggestion that he still has a knock and is missing because of injury.
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Might be because some big team is dumb enough to spend money on him
posted on 12/8/24
Those Branthwaite stories aren't going away either.
Three CBs purchased would be a bit too much in some ways but perhaps it's a different set up ETH is going with eventually where we're strong and comfortable bringing the ball out from the back.
posted on 12/8/24
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 3 minutes ago
Those Branthwaite stories aren't going away either.
Three CBs purchased would be a bit too much in some ways but perhaps it's a different set up ETH is going with eventually where we're strong and comfortable bringing the ball out from the back.
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Don’t believe it, I think we’ll sign a CM and we’re done.
posted on 12/8/24
comment by Sydney Sweeney (U11781)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 3 minutes ago
Those Branthwaite stories aren't going away either.
Three CBs purchased would be a bit too much in some ways but perhaps it's a different set up ETH is going with eventually where we're strong and comfortable bringing the ball out from the back.
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Don’t believe it, I think we’ll sign a CM and we’re done.
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I doubt it too but wouldn't be too surprised either. Yoro, De Ligt, Martinez, Branthwaite would give us great options and I'm sure Yoro and Branthwaite would be used at FB at times too. Well nominally at FB anyway.
posted on 12/8/24
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Sydney Sweeney (U11781)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 3 minutes ago
Those Branthwaite stories aren't going away either.
Three CBs purchased would be a bit too much in some ways but perhaps it's a different set up ETH is going with eventually where we're strong and comfortable bringing the ball out from the back.
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Don’t believe it, I think we’ll sign a CM and we’re done.
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I doubt it too but wouldn't be too surprised either. Yoro, De Ligt, Martinez, Branthwaite would give us great options and I'm sure Yoro and Branthwaite would be used at FB at times too. Well nominally at FB anyway.
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Centre halves being converted to full backs seems all the rage these days.
posted on 12/8/24
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Sydney Sweeney (U11781)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
posted 3 minutes ago
Those Branthwaite stories aren't going away either.
Three CBs purchased would be a bit too much in some ways but perhaps it's a different set up ETH is going with eventually where we're strong and comfortable bringing the ball out from the back.
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Don’t believe it, I think we’ll sign a CM and we’re done.
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I doubt it too but wouldn't be too surprised either. Yoro, De Ligt, Martinez, Branthwaite would give us great options and I'm sure Yoro and Branthwaite would be used at FB at times too. Well nominally at FB anyway.
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Centre halves being converted to full backs seems all the rage these days.
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I'm not saying it will happen of course, and I think it's unlikely, but those rumours aren't going away.
posted on 12/8/24
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 17 minutes ago
Really hope it's not Sander Berge who we sign. He will just be the latest in a long line of players who aren't good enough to play for this club but we signed them anyway. Even for £20-25m it's not worth it. We need to sign more quality players and if they aren't available then don't waste the money on more dross causing more issues down the line.
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If we go for Berge it’ll be to replace Amrabat I think. A stop gap until dealing with Casemiro’s replacement next summer.
Not what I’d do personally, but maybe there’s no Plan B for Ugarte right now.
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Even as a stop gap it's too much. It's another 20-30m thrown away and probably 80-100k a week on a player we won't be able to shift.
As much as we need reinforcements, I'd rather give the minutes to one of the academy lads than waste more money on a player who isn't good enough as I said.
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Berge is 26 so it's not like he's only good for 2 seasons with no resale value. If he was around £20m, we wouldn't be much out of pocket. If he's used as a squad rotation player to give some others a rest or cover the inevitable injuries/suspensions.
posted on 12/8/24
If our new recruitment team reckon Berge is a good signing I would back them.
posted on 12/8/24
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 minute ago
If our new recruitment team reckon Berge is a good signing I would back them.
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So long as it’s a reasonable fee and we dont pay him so much we can’t ship him. I agree.
posted on 12/8/24
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 29 seconds ago
If our new recruitment team reckon Berge is a good signing I would back them.
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Our new recruitment team haven't had a lot of time to do anything yet. Probably why we have gone for two more former ETH players and a Dutch striker this window as they haven't had a great deal of time to do anything given how long it took for them to start.
posted on 12/8/24
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 minute ago
If our new recruitment team reckon Berge is a good signing I would back them.
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So long as it’s a reasonable fee and we dont pay him so much we can’t ship him. I agree.
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This.
posted on 12/8/24
I don't think our recruitment team have had much impact on this window lads. If they have recommended De Ligt and Mazraoui then that's a hell of a coincidence isn't it? Even Zirkzee who is Dutch and a former Bayern reserve player which is the exact same path as ETH.
I don't think we are going to truly benefit from Ashworth and his team until next summer. This one probably came too soon.
posted on 12/8/24
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 29 seconds ago
If our new recruitment team reckon Berge is a good signing I would back them.
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Our new recruitment team haven't had a lot of time to do anything yet. Probably why we have gone for two more former ETH players and a Dutch striker this window as they haven't had a great deal of time to do anything given how long it took for them to start.
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I doubt ETH's nationality had much to do with the signings (apart from convincing the player to join). Zirkzee is the profile of player we were looking for and De Lift is an experienced CB with a pretty low price tag. Given the lack of top CBs at the moment, a world class one will be ridiculous money.
posted on 12/8/24
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 seconds ago
I don't think our recruitment team have had much impact on this window lads. If they have recommended De Ligt and Mazraoui then that's a hell of a coincidence isn't it? Even Zirkzee who is Dutch and a former Bayern reserve player which is the exact same path as ETH.
I don't think we are going to truly benefit from Ashworth and his team until next summer. This one probably came too soon.
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Didn’t ETH already say that signing De Ligt was someone idea or am I dreaming?
posted on 12/8/24
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 29 seconds ago
If our new recruitment team reckon Berge is a good signing I would back them.
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Our new recruitment team haven't had a lot of time to do anything yet. Probably why we have gone for two more former ETH players and a Dutch striker this window as they haven't had a great deal of time to do anything given how long it took for them to start.
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If McTominay leaves and Berge comes in at roughly break even, then to me that represents an improvement to our CM options. McTominay isn't a proper CM player whereas Berge is; he's better in the air, a better passer, better receiving the ball deeper and a better ball carrier. I don't think anyone thinks Berge is a player that will take us to the next level, but we need good squad options and at the right price he seems like he could be just that.
He's at least a more tried and tested (and mobile) PL player than Amrabat and I think it's fair to say that with a run of games towards the end of the season (as well as a brief spell before Xmas that has been somewhat forgotten about) Amrabat showed some value to us. If we could find a squad option that offers an improvement on what Amrabat offered by spending no more than sale of a player like McTominary then I fail to see the problem.
posted on 12/8/24
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 seconds ago
I don't think our recruitment team have had much impact on this window lads. If they have recommended De Ligt and Mazraoui then that's a hell of a coincidence isn't it? Even Zirkzee who is Dutch and a former Bayern reserve player which is the exact same path as ETH.
I don't think we are going to truly benefit from Ashworth and his team until next summer. This one probably came too soon.
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Didn’t ETH already say that signing De Ligt was someone idea or am I dreaming?
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I haven't seen anything like that myself but you could be right.
Personally though I think it's fairly obvious ETH retained a lot of input for this specific window. De Ligt and Mazraoui will be the 5th former players he's signed with a further few transfers of Dutch players such as Malacia, Weghorst (loan) and Zirkzee.
I don't think Ashworth and his team was in place early enough for this window myself which is why we've done what we've done.
posted on 12/8/24
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 seconds ago
I don't think our recruitment team have had much impact on this window lads. If they have recommended De Ligt and Mazraoui then that's a hell of a coincidence isn't it? Even Zirkzee who is Dutch and a former Bayern reserve player which is the exact same path as ETH.
I don't think we are going to truly benefit from Ashworth and his team until next summer. This one probably came too soon.
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Didn’t ETH already say that signing De Ligt was someone idea or am I dreaming?
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He did. It was a recommendation put forward by the recruitment team.
It was also pretty clear that our first choice CB options were Branthwaite and Todibo - which surely lays to rest any ideas that ETH has the kind of sway over transfer decisions that he may have had previously (which, again I have to stress, was a club/structural issue, and not an ETH one. I know this will continue to be utterly lost on SE85 but I'm a glutton for punishment it seems).
posted on 12/8/24
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 seconds ago
I don't think our recruitment team have had much impact on this window lads. If they have recommended De Ligt and Mazraoui then that's a hell of a coincidence isn't it? Even Zirkzee who is Dutch and a former Bayern reserve player which is the exact same path as ETH.
I don't think we are going to truly benefit from Ashworth and his team until next summer. This one probably came too soon.
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Didn’t ETH already say that signing De Ligt was someone idea or am I dreaming?
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I haven't seen anything like that myself but you could be right.
Personally though I think it's fairly obvious ETH retained a lot of input for this specific window. De Ligt and Mazraoui will be the 5th former players he's signed with a further few transfers of Dutch players such as Malacia, Weghorst (loan) and Zirkzee.
I don't think Ashworth and his team was in place early enough for this window myself which is why we've done what we've done.
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Ten Hag said "believe it or not his name didn't come from me in this process"
posted on 12/8/24
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 seconds ago
I don't think our recruitment team have had much impact on this window lads. If they have recommended De Ligt and Mazraoui then that's a hell of a coincidence isn't it? Even Zirkzee who is Dutch and a former Bayern reserve player which is the exact same path as ETH.
I don't think we are going to truly benefit from Ashworth and his team until next summer. This one probably came too soon.
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Didn’t ETH already say that signing De Ligt was someone idea or am I dreaming?
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He did. It was a recommendation put forward by the recruitment team.
It was also pretty clear that our first choice CB options were Branthwaite and Todibo - which surely lays to rest any ideas that ETH has the kind of sway over transfer decisions that he may have had previously (which, again I have to stress, was a club/structural issue, and not an ETH one. I know this will continue to be utterly lost on SE85 but I'm a glutton for punishment it seems).
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#agenda
posted on 12/8/24
comment by Arctic Monkey (U14534)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 seconds ago
I don't think our recruitment team have had much impact on this window lads. If they have recommended De Ligt and Mazraoui then that's a hell of a coincidence isn't it? Even Zirkzee who is Dutch and a former Bayern reserve player which is the exact same path as ETH.
I don't think we are going to truly benefit from Ashworth and his team until next summer. This one probably came too soon.
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Didn’t ETH already say that signing De Ligt was someone idea or am I dreaming?
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I haven't seen anything like that myself but you could be right.
Personally though I think it's fairly obvious ETH retained a lot of input for this specific window. De Ligt and Mazraoui will be the 5th former players he's signed with a further few transfers of Dutch players such as Malacia, Weghorst (loan) and Zirkzee.
I don't think Ashworth and his team was in place early enough for this window myself which is why we've done what we've done.
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Ten Hag said "believe it or not his name didn't come from me in this process"
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Ashworth said “No, it wasn’t Ten Hag who recommended him, Erik was on holiday. funnily enough it was this random phonecall I got from someone with a Dutch accent, who recommended him, it was odd because it sounded like that person was at the beach.”
posted on 12/8/24
We've signed 5 former Ajax players in two years and we've also signed 3 further Dutch players and it's apparently my agenda?
This place cracks me up. 😂
posted on 12/8/24
comment by Baz tard - Ineos your face (U19119)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Arctic Monkey (U14534)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 2 seconds ago
I don't think our recruitment team have had much impact on this window lads. If they have recommended De Ligt and Mazraoui then that's a hell of a coincidence isn't it? Even Zirkzee who is Dutch and a former Bayern reserve player which is the exact same path as ETH.
I don't think we are going to truly benefit from Ashworth and his team until next summer. This one probably came too soon.
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Didn’t ETH already say that signing De Ligt was someone idea or am I dreaming?
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I haven't seen anything like that myself but you could be right.
Personally though I think it's fairly obvious ETH retained a lot of input for this specific window. De Ligt and Mazraoui will be the 5th former players he's signed with a further few transfers of Dutch players such as Malacia, Weghorst (loan) and Zirkzee.
I don't think Ashworth and his team was in place early enough for this window myself which is why we've done what we've done.
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Ten Hag said "believe it or not his name didn't come from me in this process"
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Ashworth said “No, it wasn’t Ten Hag who recommended him, Erik was on holiday. funnily enough it was this random phonecall I got from someone with a Dutch accent, who recommended him, it was odd because it sounded like that person was at the beach.”
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posted on 12/8/24
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 3 minutes ago
We've signed 5 former Ajax players in two years and we've also signed 3 further Dutch players and it's apparently my agenda?
This place cracks me up. 😂
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He did. It was a recommendation put forward by the recruitment team.
It was also pretty clear that our first choice CB options were Branthwaite and Todibo - which surely lays to rest any ideas that ETH has the kind of sway over transfer decisions that he may have had previously (which, again I have to stress, was a club/structural issue, and not an ETH one. I know this will continue to be utterly lost on SE85 but I'm a glutton for punishment it seems).
As said eloquently by Berba.
posted on 12/8/24
comment by Clever - son son son - 'Ten Haaaagendas please' of the year Runner Up 2021 (U18599)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 3 minutes ago
We've signed 5 former Ajax players in two years and we've also signed 3 further Dutch players and it's apparently my agenda?
This place cracks me up. 😂
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He did. It was a recommendation put forward by the recruitment team.
It was also pretty clear that our first choice CB options were Branthwaite and Todibo - which surely lays to rest any ideas that ETH has the kind of sway over transfer decisions that he may have had previously (which, again I have to stress, was a club/structural issue, and not an ETH one. I know this will continue to be utterly lost on SE85 but I'm a glutton for punishment it seems).
As said eloquently by Berba.
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A club structural problem appointing a manager who had wasted 400 million + agreed
posted on 12/8/24
Branthwaite and Todibo may well have been the first choice but for very different reasons we weren't able to get those done.
To land on De Ligt and Mazraoui is a hell of a coincidence I must say, especially after Lisandro, Antony and Onana have already joined.
Some would say you'd have to be an absolute moron to believe he's had no input here.
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