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comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 14/8/24

comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 56 minutes ago

he wants to take several touches at times rather than getting a shot off
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filth

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 14/8/24

comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 3 hours, 41 minutes ago
The truth is we should be winning this league at a canter. We have started the season playing good football and adding quality to the team gives us the opportunity to not drop standards when we make subs.

Europe I'd like to see us do better but spending 10's of millions to significantly improve is not going to happen as the finances of getting to QF does not equate to what we'd need to spend to try get there.

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Don’t think anybody’s saying we need a net spend of 10s of millions. Just an upgrade on Taylor and Scales, for starters, which really shouldn’t be difficult … or particularly expensive.
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I disagree on the latter.

TM value Taylor at €7.5m! Granted we can argue all day long about their valuations but they are usually on the low side. The bits he's added to his game are good but he can't change his height of the system he's asked to play.

I have no inside but I would not be shocked if the club are trying to low ball him in light of his apparent passion for the club and besties with all the dressing room etc. I believe his missus is a nurse still working shifts and very grounded doesn't want to give that up even though she could be a gym bunny WAG. He isn't signing for Rangers. Celtic have a strong hand.

Unless of course BR doesn't see him as the long-term future which frankly is unlikely - we are more proactive moving guys on in their last year if that was the case.

What bothers me is say we sign Beck for £3m - down Mags - is he taking the jersey - seems unlikely? So, why would he sign if he wasn't first pick which he will get at other clubs? Same goes for anyone else in that £1-4m category. Best we can hope for is a job share but nobody likes that. Anything cheaper or academy is likely to be useless?

No idea where it is headed.

posted on 14/8/24

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 3 hours, 41 minutes ago
The truth is we should be winning this league at a canter. We have started the season playing good football and adding quality to the team gives us the opportunity to not drop standards when we make subs.

Europe I'd like to see us do better but spending 10's of millions to significantly improve is not going to happen as the finances of getting to QF does not equate to what we'd need to spend to try get there.

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Don’t think anybody’s saying we need a net spend of 10s of millions. Just an upgrade on Taylor and Scales, for starters, which really shouldn’t be difficult … or particularly expensive.
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I disagree on the latter.

TM value Taylor at €7.5m! Granted we can argue all day long about their valuations but they are usually on the low side. The bits he's added to his game are good but he can't change his height of the system he's asked to play.

I have no inside but I would not be shocked if the club are trying to low ball him in light of his apparent passion for the club and besties with all the dressing room etc. I believe his missus is a nurse still working shifts and very grounded doesn't want to give that up even though she could be a gym bunny WAG. He isn't signing for Rangers. Celtic have a strong hand.

Unless of course BR doesn't see him as the long-term future which frankly is unlikely - we are more proactive moving guys on in their last year if that was the case.

What bothers me is say we sign Beck for £3m - down Mags - is he taking the jersey - seems unlikely? So, why would he sign if he wasn't first pick which he will get at other clubs? Same goes for anyone else in that £1-4m category. Best we can hope for is a job share but nobody likes that. Anything cheaper or academy is likely to be useless?

No idea where it is headed.
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All about opinions, but to me Taylor just has NO footballing attributes … zip … nada … zilch … fook all. Can’t defend on the deck and rarely even bothers to jump for a high ball, offers nowt going forward, has no pace, and isn’t a great passer. Other than that he’s class. On top of all that he has no competition for his place, as the only LB at the club. It’s a frankly ludicrous situation.

posted on 14/8/24

comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted 3 hours, 41 minutes ago
The truth is we should be winning this league at a canter. We have started the season playing good football and adding quality to the team gives us the opportunity to not drop standards when we make subs.

Europe I'd like to see us do better but spending 10's of millions to significantly improve is not going to happen as the finances of getting to QF does not equate to what we'd need to spend to try get there.

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Don’t think anybody’s saying we need a net spend of 10s of millions. Just an upgrade on Taylor and Scales, for starters, which really shouldn’t be difficult … or particularly expensive.
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I disagree on the latter.

TM value Taylor at €7.5m! Granted we can argue all day long about their valuations but they are usually on the low side. The bits he's added to his game are good but he can't change his height of the system he's asked to play.

I have no inside but I would not be shocked if the club are trying to low ball him in light of his apparent passion for the club and besties with all the dressing room etc. I believe his missus is a nurse still working shifts and very grounded doesn't want to give that up even though she could be a gym bunny WAG. He isn't signing for Rangers. Celtic have a strong hand.

Unless of course BR doesn't see him as the long-term future which frankly is unlikely - we are more proactive moving guys on in their last year if that was the case.

What bothers me is say we sign Beck for £3m - down Mags - is he taking the jersey - seems unlikely? So, why would he sign if he wasn't first pick which he will get at other clubs? Same goes for anyone else in that £1-4m category. Best we can hope for is a job share but nobody likes that. Anything cheaper or academy is likely to be useless?

No idea where it is headed.
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All about opinions, but to me Taylor just has NO footballing attributes … zip … nada … zilch … fook all. Can’t defend on the deck and rarely even bothers to jump for a high ball, offers nowt going forward, has no pace, and isn’t a great passer. Other than that he’s class. On top of all that he has no competition for his place, as the only LB at the club. It’s a frankly ludicrous situation.
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I completely disagree with that.

Is he top class Champs League teams want him quality? Probably not but to say he has no footballing attributes is just not liking him.

He can't do anything about his height but he adapted to that inverted role brilliantly. He has a good footballing brain and his use of the ball in tight spaces is good.

For me two top managers rate him - Ange and Brendan. If they were certain he was useless he would have been one of the first replaced.

Can we upgrade on him? Of course

Is he scheidt? Not at all

Is he the current scapegoat of lack of transfer activity? Yes 100%

posted on 14/8/24

That inverted role in the champs league with screw us. Scales covering lb and cb

posted on 14/8/24

As I said, all about opinions. My opinion of Taylor has fook all to do with me “disliking” him. I’m sure he’s a decent bloke and decent pro. I still think he’s a pash footballer, based on pretty much every time I’ve seen him in a Celtic shirt. Yep, he can’t help being a short erse, but he could still actually attempt to challenge for high balls, rather than his trademark rooted to the ground watching from a safe 5 yards away as the latest free header arrows towards our goal. He’s a level above Ralston, but they’re both back up at best … IMO. Scapegoat for this window? … We’ve been crying out for a LB upgrade for 3 fecking years.

posted on 14/8/24

I think we can do much better than taylor. He has been better than expected for sure, and is a decent player.

But we should be aiming for better.

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 14/8/24

It can be done. We scouted AJ and he's a marginally better FB than GT. Still tough to know how someone will fit in.

posted on 14/8/24

I think aj is an outstanding full back defensively - average going forward but excellent defender. Gt is the opposite - excellent in an attacking sense but weak defensively - maybe old fashioned but I prefer aj as a full back every time.

posted on 14/8/24

comment by Foddy - make mine a quadruple treble (U8028)
posted 5 minutes ago
I think aj is an outstanding full back defensively - average going forward but excellent defender. Gt is the opposite - excellent in an attacking sense but weak defensively - maybe old fashioned but I prefer aj as a full back every time.
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Taylor, excellent going forward??

he averages 1 goal and 3 assists a season in all comps.

posted on 14/8/24

I think AJ is a better full back, much better

posted on 14/8/24

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 45 minutes ago
It can be done. We scouted AJ and he's a marginally better FB than GT. Still tough to know how someone will fit in.
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Again, all about opinions, but for me AJ is more than “marginally better” than GT. Didn’t have quite as good a season last year (who did?), but he can actually defend, for starters … the prime job of a FB in my book. Played every game as Canada got to the semis of the recent Copa America. That’s at least one level above anything Greg Taylor will ever achieve … IMO. Don’t think AJ is any worse going forward either. If we had an AJ equivalent at LB I’d be happy.

posted on 14/8/24

We will get murdered in the CL with Scales, Taylor and Ralston. While I admire their determination and work rate, they are not good enough for Celtic, for the reasons stated by others.

posted on 14/8/24

Ranging that Rangers are in the Europa League, they'll get loads more cash than us now.

posted on 14/8/24

https://youtu.be/q4f0Bg51xTA?si=FrYaVXFEz1lfbzmn

comment by St3vie (U11028)

posted on 14/8/24

Johnston is a good full back, does the defensive basics very well....and having put up with Tavernier for nearly 10 years now, I'd give my right arm for a player that does that

posted on 14/8/24

comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 15 minutes ago
Johnston is a good full back, does the defensive basics very well....and having put up with Tavernier for nearly 10 years now, I'd give my right arm for a player that does that
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You’d have taken Tav over Johnson every time for at least 9 of those last ten years. We wouldn’t have been close to Celtic without him. It’s last year he’s noticeably gone downhill

posted on 14/8/24

comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 15 minutes ago
Johnston is a good full back, does the defensive basics very well....and having put up with Tavernier for nearly 10 years now, I'd give my right arm for a player that does that
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You’d have taken Tav over Johnson every time for at least 9 of those last ten years. We wouldn’t have been close to Celtic without him. It’s last year he’s noticeably gone downhill
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"Put up with"

posted on 14/8/24

I reckon most would have taken Tavernier over AJ for a fair part of the last 10 years, as he would only have been 15 years old a decade ago.

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 14/8/24

comment by I'm not as think as you drunk I am.......Schizophrenia was my idea!.....No it wasn't!.....You are never alone with a Schizo :D (U2115)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 15 minutes ago
Johnston is a good full back, does the defensive basics very well....and having put up with Tavernier for nearly 10 years now, I'd give my right arm for a player that does that
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You’d have taken Tav over Johnson every time for at least 9 of those last ten years. We wouldn’t have been close to Celtic without him. It’s last year he’s noticeably gone downhill
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"Put up with"
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Obviously dunnit thinks Tav is the dug's baws cos he's scored gazillions of goals and assists but he's been culpable multiple times against his biggest rival. But that's the issue in Scotland, almost every player has a flaw else they'd be playing elsewhere.

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 14/8/24

comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided what to change it to yet (U10636)
posted 4 minutes ago
I reckon most would have taken Tavernier over AJ for a fair part of the last 10 years, as he would only have been 15 years old a decade ago.
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And to our best knowledge doesn't cut dug's ears.

comment by St3vie (U11028)

posted on 14/8/24

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by I'm not as think as you drunk I am.......Schizophrenia was my idea!.....No it wasn't!.....You are never alone with a Schizo :D (U2115)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 15 minutes ago
Johnston is a good full back, does the defensive basics very well....and having put up with Tavernier for nearly 10 years now, I'd give my right arm for a player that does that
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You’d have taken Tav over Johnson every time for at least 9 of those last ten years. We wouldn’t have been close to Celtic without him. It’s last year he’s noticeably gone downhill
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"Put up with"
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Obviously dunnit thinks Tav is the dug's baws cos he's scored gazillions of goals and assists but he's been culpable multiple times against his biggest rival. But that's the issue in Scotland, almost every player has a flaw else they'd be playing elsewhere.
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I want my defenders to be able to defend first and foremost

Can get other players to take penalties and free kicks

Our midfield and forwards might get forward more and score a few more goals if they weren't having to think about tracking back to help cover out defensive weaknesses quite so much

posted on 14/8/24

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
comment by Foddy - make mine a quadruple treble (U8028)
posted 5 minutes ago
I think aj is an outstanding full back defensively - average going forward but excellent defender. Gt is the opposite - excellent in an attacking sense but weak defensively - maybe old fashioned but I prefer aj as a full back every time.
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Taylor, excellent going forward??

he averages 1 goal and 3 assists a season in all comps.
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I watch them every week - Taylor is a big part of our attacking shape and plays his part. It’s all relative though - domestically great, Europe not so much !

posted on 14/8/24

comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by I'm not as think as you drunk I am.......Schizophrenia was my idea!.....No it wasn't!.....You are never alone with a Schizo :D (U2115)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 15 minutes ago
Johnston is a good full back, does the defensive basics very well....and having put up with Tavernier for nearly 10 years now, I'd give my right arm for a player that does that
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You’d have taken Tav over Johnson every time for at least 9 of those last ten years. We wouldn’t have been close to Celtic without him. It’s last year he’s noticeably gone downhill
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"Put up with"
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Obviously dunnit thinks Tav is the dug's baws cos he's scored gazillions of goals and assists but he's been culpable multiple times against his biggest rival. But that's the issue in Scotland, almost every player has a flaw else they'd be playing elsewhere.
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I want my defenders to be able to defend first and foremost

Can get other players to take penalties and free kicks

Our midfield and forwards might get forward more and score a few more goals if they weren't having to think about tracking back to help cover out defensive weaknesses quite so much
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We wouldn’t have been close to Celtic or have gotten to a European final. You can’t have seen much if you think he only scored penalties and free kicks

comment by St3vie (U11028)

posted on 14/8/24

comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by I'm not as think as you drunk I am.......Schizophrenia was my idea!.....No it wasn't!.....You are never alone with a Schizo :D (U2115)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 15 minutes ago
Johnston is a good full back, does the defensive basics very well....and having put up with Tavernier for nearly 10 years now, I'd give my right arm for a player that does that
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You’d have taken Tav over Johnson every time for at least 9 of those last ten years. We wouldn’t have been close to Celtic without him. It’s last year he’s noticeably gone downhill
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"Put up with"
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Obviously dunnit thinks Tav is the dug's baws cos he's scored gazillions of goals and assists but he's been culpable multiple times against his biggest rival. But that's the issue in Scotland, almost every player has a flaw else they'd be playing elsewhere.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I want my defenders to be able to defend first and foremost

Can get other players to take penalties and free kicks

Our midfield and forwards might get forward more and score a few more goals if they weren't having to think about tracking back to help cover out defensive weaknesses quite so much
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We wouldn’t have been close to Celtic or have gotten to a European final. You can’t have seen much if you think he only scored penalties and free kicks
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We reached a European final with Christian Dailly and Kirk Broadfoot playing at right back, we didn't need them to score umpteen goals to get there.....just had to defend well...we also won league titles during that period to, coz we were very difficult to beat

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