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posted on 15/8/24

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
Let's not kid ourselves that Lawwell is loving this as a deflection from signings too.
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He’s not involved in signings but it’s fairly clear his presence and undoubtedly his set criteria severely restricts our scouting team

Hang on. Scouting team…..
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Nicholson knows the score and be reading his raised eyebrows, pursed lips and wry nods and getting the message.
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If he’s even at his desk “chasing down” our targets

The signings in Idah and Schmeichel came from Rodgers. Says it all really.
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Only read your first sentence.

posted on 15/8/24

comment by JFK - Super Nintendo Chalmers (U8919)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted about 2 hours ago
Not so.

Building warrants can be granted during works in Scotland. You don’t have to wait for approval before commencing installation.

Furthermore; building control will depend solely on the safety kpi’s required for temporary netting structures and will have the only affect on such works as they perform no other function other than being a dividing safety barrier.

The other criteria will be base upon the installation methods and site risk assessments.

These aren’t habitable, retail or commercial works and as such there are very few if any legislative concerns that would apply here.

Planning permission is an entirely separate requirement but again it is unlikely to even be required as it is a temporary screen inside and existing structure. A simple letter from the relevant planning authority will be more than sufficient.

Now you know all that; don’t you even question why Rangers haven’t even started the process as it is very straightforward?

Only conclusions being that they believe they will not be back at Ibrox by the New year or they simply haven’t got the finances or can be bothered.

Then again, maybe they just forgot and thought they could get away with it. Rangers know what they (haven’t) done, but that won’t be the public announcement as we can see. Just blame someone else is the mantra. No wonder the whole thing is such a bumbling mess.

Get a decent CEO in and one who hasn’t worked with Celtic before, because there doesn’t appear to be anybody competent within the building as it stands.
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What a boring bastirt you are.

Got about 2 paragraphs in and was thrilled at the thought of watching paint dry instead.
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books with pictures kind of guy?

why is carrot pubes trying to educate you so upsetting?
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“carrot pubes”

You called me something else the other day and I burst out laughing. Such a cant you are

posted on 15/8/24

comment by Magnum (3 in a row easy) (U22391)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
Let's not kid ourselves that Lawwell is loving this as a deflection from signings too.
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He’s not involved in signings but it’s fairly clear his presence and undoubtedly his set criteria severely restricts our scouting team

Hang on. Scouting team…..
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Nicholson knows the score and be reading his raised eyebrows, pursed lips and wry nods and getting the message.
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If he’s even at his desk “chasing down” our targets

The signings in Idah and Schmeichel came from Rodgers. Says it all really.
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Only read your first sentence.
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“Only”

What does this even mean?

posted on 15/8/24

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
Let's not kid ourselves that Lawwell is loving this as a deflection from signings too.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

He’s not involved in signings but it’s fairly clear his presence and undoubtedly his set criteria severely restricts our scouting team

Hang on. Scouting team…..
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Nicholson knows the score and be reading his raised eyebrows, pursed lips and wry nods and getting the message.
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"so theres this player highly rated, young, huge potential"

PL - "yesssss??"

I think he would improve the team and make us a profit in a few years

PL - "thats great news, how much?"

"about 9 million"

...

...

"euros that is"

...

"i see your fists and clenched white and your face is purple, so i think we should bid 2 million"

PL - oh thats great let me know how you get on. mind and ask marketting to send that mail out on comparing life insurance on the celtic website, put in something catchy like "keep the faith... in your life insurance!"

whanks.

posted on 15/8/24

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by JFK - Super Nintendo Chalmers (U8919)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted about 2 hours ago
Not so.

Building warrants can be granted during works in Scotland. You don’t have to wait for approval before commencing installation.

Furthermore; building control will depend solely on the safety kpi’s required for temporary netting structures and will have the only affect on such works as they perform no other function other than being a dividing safety barrier.

The other criteria will be base upon the installation methods and site risk assessments.

These aren’t habitable, retail or commercial works and as such there are very few if any legislative concerns that would apply here.

Planning permission is an entirely separate requirement but again it is unlikely to even be required as it is a temporary screen inside and existing structure. A simple letter from the relevant planning authority will be more than sufficient.

Now you know all that; don’t you even question why Rangers haven’t even started the process as it is very straightforward?

Only conclusions being that they believe they will not be back at Ibrox by the New year or they simply haven’t got the finances or can be bothered.

Then again, maybe they just forgot and thought they could get away with it. Rangers know what they (haven’t) done, but that won’t be the public announcement as we can see. Just blame someone else is the mantra. No wonder the whole thing is such a bumbling mess.

Get a decent CEO in and one who hasn’t worked with Celtic before, because there doesn’t appear to be anybody competent within the building as it stands.
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What a boring bastirt you are.

Got about 2 paragraphs in and was thrilled at the thought of watching paint dry instead.
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books with pictures kind of guy?

why is carrot pubes trying to educate you so upsetting?
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“carrot pubes”

You called me something else the other day and I burst out laughing. Such a cant you are
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possibly auburn amigo, i'm trying to branch out

posted on 15/8/24

That was it

Hang on. Why have I reminded you?

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 15/8/24

I can't understand why Rangers haven't written to UEFA demanding that the ref never takes charge of one of their games again. I mean, the stakes were way higher than anything that Collum or Clancy could ever influence and being Italian almost certainly, well, you know...

posted on 15/8/24

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
I can't understand why Rangers haven't written to UEFA demanding that the ref never takes charge of one of their games again. I mean, the stakes were way higher than anything that Collum or Clancy could ever influence and being Italian almost certainly, well, you know...
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celtic fans will never have the upper hand when it comes to complaining about scottish refs ... cmon.

posted on 15/8/24

I still can’t make my mind up about that second yellow card.

Their player’s head connects with Jefte’s elbow and regardless of intent or who went up first, there is no real shock when a booking gets dished out; especially in a European tie. As a country we are mugs thinking we can play the same way as we do in our domestic leagues.

But then I can see why it was more their player jumping into Jefte’s elbow or arm and then dropping to the floor like he’d been pole axed in which case I don’t see why it shouldn’t be deemed as a cautionable offence.

Same thing with raised boot. A player ducks down into a “raised boot” at waist level and gets his head clattered. Booking for the one with the “raised” leg. Or in Yang’s case, a straight red.

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 15/8/24

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
I can't understand why Rangers haven't written to UEFA demanding that the ref never takes charge of one of their games again. I mean, the stakes were way higher than anything that Collum or Clancy could ever influence and being Italian almost certainly, well, you know...
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celtic fans will never have the upper hand when it comes to complaining about scottish refs ... cmon.
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I acknowledge the the rangers superiority in this matter

posted on 15/8/24

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 32 seconds ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
I can't understand why Rangers haven't written to UEFA demanding that the ref never takes charge of one of their games again. I mean, the stakes were way higher than anything that Collum or Clancy could ever influence and being Italian almost certainly, well, you know...
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celtic fans will never have the upper hand when it comes to complaining about scottish refs ... cmon.
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I acknowledge the the rangers superiority in this matter
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Must be a trophy for that

comment by St3vie (U11028)

posted on 15/8/24

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 hours, 9 minutes ago
Not so.

Building warrants can be granted during works in Scotland. You don’t have to wait for approval before commencing installation.

Furthermore; building control will depend solely on the safety kpi’s required for temporary netting structures and will have the only affect on such works as they perform no other function other than being a dividing safety barrier.

The other criteria will be base upon the installation methods and site risk assessments.

These aren’t habitable, retail or commercial works and as such there are very few if any legislative concerns that would apply here.

Planning permission is an entirely separate requirement but again it is unlikely to even be required as it is a temporary screen inside and existing structure. A simple letter from the relevant planning authority will be more than sufficient.

Now you know all that; don’t you even question why Rangers haven’t even started the process as it is very straightforward?

Only conclusions being that they believe they will not be back at Ibrox by the New year or they simply haven’t got the finances or can be bothered.

Then again, maybe they just forgot and thought they could get away with it. Rangers know what they (haven’t) done, but that won’t be the public announcement as we can see. Just blame someone else is the mantra. No wonder the whole thing is such a bumbling mess.

Get a decent CEO in and one who hasn’t worked with Celtic before, because there doesn’t appear to be anybody competent within the building as it stands.
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I take all your points on board, but in relation to the game in September there is only two things that matters

1) Is Celtic Park ready for the game in September?
Well given a building warrant has still not been approved for the netting that clearly appears to be a stipulation of this agreement, then there is dubiety that the game can go ahead at Celtic Park with all the measures in place that were agreed upon, so again, will wait and see what the official word is

2) Will Ibrox be ready

Now this one is far more complex
The old firm game at Ibrox is not until January, so I would assume some of the stuff you've posted planning permission perhaps not being required for stuff, and building warrants not having to be approved before installation commences etc....could also apply to the works required at Ibrox, and could possibly all be rubber stamped and done for January

If that's not the case and Rangers have dropped the ball, it's on them, but as said countless times, we do not know

The second thing to consider, is this agreement between the two clubs. If all Rangers had to concern themselves with was getting Ibrox ready for January, and are confident that it will be, then they've not really done anything wrong have they?

If it was agreed that these works would be done for a certain time, or that Rangers would be at a certain point with the works by the time the first old firm came along to give Celtic assurances, then yeah finez would make perfect sense.

But see if it's just a case of Celtic simply not believing that Ibrox will be ready despite what they are being told, and basically just $hiting the bed, throwing the toys oot the pram and deciding not to give an away allocation for the September game....it's on them is it not?

posted on 15/8/24

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 40 minutes ago
That was it

Hang on. Why have I reminded you?
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i thought that was quite a nice one, a term of endearment

comment by St3vie (U11028)

posted on 15/8/24

There is also the small point that Celtic had a real opportunity to be the bigger man here, could have gave the away allocation for this game, proven they had done their bit, and then just left Rangers to embarrass themselves if/when Ibrox wasn't ready for January, proving the issues lied with them all along.

As JFK somewhat eluded to earlier, Celtic could then revoke the allocation for the third game, and then pile the pressure on Rangers to get their finger oot their erse for the last old firm of the season

Worst case scenario would be, Rangers have fans at Celtic Park in a couple weeks when we get humped

posted on 15/8/24

comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 14 minutes ago
There is also the small point that Celtic had a real opportunity to be the bigger man here, could have gave the away allocation for this game, proven they had done their bit, and then just left Rangers to embarrass themselves if/when Ibrox wasn't ready for January, proving the issues lied with them all along.

As JFK somewhat eluded to earlier, Celtic could then revoke the allocation for the third game, and then pile the pressure on Rangers to get their finger oot their erse for the last old firm of the season

Worst case scenario would be, Rangers have fans at Celtic Park in a couple weeks when we get humped
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This I agree with and I said right at the beginning of all of this that we missed our chance to be the “bigger man”.

Your earlier point not so much.

Whilst it hasn’t been officially announced in some formal statement, it is well understood that Celtic waited as long as they could to get categoric assurance from Rangers that their fans could be in Ibrox with all safety measures (including their own building works of course) complete and fully signed off by the relevant bodies. That wasn’t forthcoming in any way and so Celtic pulled the plug on Rangers fans coming into CP on a previously agreed reciprocal basis (by having no assurances in return for New Year).

Nothing in Rangers statement denies any of this and merely also mentions a reciprocal stance thereby by default trying to “blame” Celtic.

As for Building Warrant pending; that won’t change until all works are fully completed and signed off. It has been confirmed that Celtic have made significant changes that allows full implementation long before the due New Year game.

What seem to getting forgotten in all of this is that Sky demanded an end to this farce as they believe it is destroying their product. The police also want it as it makes their job easier. It’s no longer up to the clubs to be clowns about it unless they want less tv money of course.

There is an official agreement between both parties, the SFPL and the authorities along with the sponsor. As always there are get out clauses with the easiest one being fan safety. Not implementing the works in time and not giving cast iron assurance cleariy breaches that agreement

posted on 15/8/24

As JFK somewhat eluded to earlier, Celtic could then revoke the allocation for the third game, and then pile the pressure on Rangers to get their finger oot their erse for the last old firm of the season

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issue with this is, i would put it past you snidey going back on it.

I'm not a fan of the no away fans, and i'm not a fan of the piddly allocation either.

posted on 15/8/24

Stevie; it’s raining where I am.

Want to check your weather?

posted on 15/8/24

engels, dara o'shea, and a left back please.

not owen beck,

posted on 15/8/24

https://x.com/hun_occhio/status/1823976458911383999?s=46

posted on 15/8/24

comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 54 minutes ago
There is also the small point that Celtic had a real opportunity to be the bigger man here, could have gave the away allocation for this game, proven they had done their bit, and then just left Rangers to embarrass themselves if/when Ibrox wasn't ready for January, proving the issues lied with them all along.

As JFK somewhat eluded to earlier, Celtic could then revoke the allocation for the third game, and then pile the pressure on Rangers to get their finger oot their erse for the last old firm of the season

Worst case scenario would be, Rangers have fans at Celtic Park in a couple weeks when we get humped
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You deserve everything you get on this.
Celtic are above reproach on this and it's all a result of Rangers' brainless board pandering to the numbskulls in your support.
It's actually great fun watching you constantly wet the bed about it.
As i said earlier, nobody is going to spend money making Hampden safe for a small section of Celtic supporters when it's only for two games.

comment by St3vie (U11028)

posted on 15/8/24

comment by Magnum (3 in a row easy) (U22391)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 54 minutes ago
There is also the small point that Celtic had a real opportunity to be the bigger man here, could have gave the away allocation for this game, proven they had done their bit, and then just left Rangers to embarrass themselves if/when Ibrox wasn't ready for January, proving the issues lied with them all along.

As JFK somewhat eluded to earlier, Celtic could then revoke the allocation for the third game, and then pile the pressure on Rangers to get their finger oot their erse for the last old firm of the season

Worst case scenario would be, Rangers have fans at Celtic Park in a couple weeks when we get humped
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You deserve everything you get on this.
Celtic are above reproach on this and it's all a result of Rangers' brainless board pandering to the numbskulls in your support.
It's actually great fun watching you constantly wet the bed about it.
As i said earlier, nobody is going to spend money making Hampden safe for a small section of Celtic supporters when it's only for two games.
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Wet the bed

Waiting for the facts is all

I'm actually hoping Celtic come out and give a lengthy statement detailing exactly what Rangers have or have not done to warrant their decision to revoke the ticket allocation...coz I see no reason why they wouldn't do so given Rangers have basically said they have their ducks in order

posted on 15/8/24

You just know this is the season we draw each other in the earlier rounds of the cup and it will be a home game for Rangers at Hampden

posted on 15/8/24

comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Magnum (3 in a row easy) (U22391)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 54 minutes ago
There is also the small point that Celtic had a real opportunity to be the bigger man here, could have gave the away allocation for this game, proven they had done their bit, and then just left Rangers to embarrass themselves if/when Ibrox wasn't ready for January, proving the issues lied with them all along.

As JFK somewhat eluded to earlier, Celtic could then revoke the allocation for the third game, and then pile the pressure on Rangers to get their finger oot their erse for the last old firm of the season

Worst case scenario would be, Rangers have fans at Celtic Park in a couple weeks when we get humped
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You deserve everything you get on this.
Celtic are above reproach on this and it's all a result of Rangers' brainless board pandering to the numbskulls in your support.
It's actually great fun watching you constantly wet the bed about it.
As i said earlier, nobody is going to spend money making Hampden safe for a small section of Celtic supporters when it's only for two games.
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Wet the bed

Waiting for the facts is all

I'm actually hoping Celtic come out and give a lengthy statement detailing exactly what Rangers have or have not done to warrant their decision to revoke the ticket allocation...coz I see no reason why they wouldn't do so given Rangers have basically said they have their ducks in order
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I'm gonna be honest here

I am stunned to my very core that Stevie doesn't see what Rangers have done wrong and thinks Celtic are all very bad

Stunned I tell you

Stunned

comment by St3vie (U11028)

posted on 15/8/24

comment by Call Sign (U3627)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Magnum (3 in a row easy) (U22391)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by St3vie (U11028)
posted 54 minutes ago
There is also the small point that Celtic had a real opportunity to be the bigger man here, could have gave the away allocation for this game, proven they had done their bit, and then just left Rangers to embarrass themselves if/when Ibrox wasn't ready for January, proving the issues lied with them all along.

As JFK somewhat eluded to earlier, Celtic could then revoke the allocation for the third game, and then pile the pressure on Rangers to get their finger oot their erse for the last old firm of the season

Worst case scenario would be, Rangers have fans at Celtic Park in a couple weeks when we get humped
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You deserve everything you get on this.
Celtic are above reproach on this and it's all a result of Rangers' brainless board pandering to the numbskulls in your support.
It's actually great fun watching you constantly wet the bed about it.
As i said earlier, nobody is going to spend money making Hampden safe for a small section of Celtic supporters when it's only for two games.
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Wet the bed

Waiting for the facts is all

I'm actually hoping Celtic come out and give a lengthy statement detailing exactly what Rangers have or have not done to warrant their decision to revoke the ticket allocation...coz I see no reason why they wouldn't do so given Rangers have basically said they have their ducks in order
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I'm gonna be honest here

I am stunned to my very core that Stevie doesn't see what Rangers have done wrong and thinks Celtic are all very bad

Stunned I tell you

Stunned
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Want to tell me where I've said that like?

Simply making the point that everyone is jumping on the bandwagon that it's all Rangers fault that this has happened before the facts have came to light

There is every chance that our board has made a complete clusterfck of things yet again...every chance.....it's the far more likely scenario

But I'd rather wait and see exactly why Celtic have reneged on the agreement, because its Celtic that have done that, not Rangers....Celtic

Rangers have not refused a ticket allocation for Celtic Park, they were under the impression they would be getting one, but it has not been offered to them

All I want to know is why Celtic made that decision, because it is theirs to make, not anyone elses

posted on 15/8/24

I'm actually hoping Celtic come out and give a lengthy statement detailing exactly what Rangers have or have not done to warrant their decision to revoke the ticket allocation...coz I see no reason why they wouldn't do so given Rangers have basically said they have their ducks in order
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i don't imagine that celtic are doing this lightly, i'd say they have spoken to rangers about the situation, asked for certain assurances and been sceptical of the reality based on the feedback they have had.

whatever i think about the celtic board, i do believe they are far more organised than what rangers have, i'll need to trust their judgement on this.

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