comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 3 hours, 1 minute ago
Out of curiosity, what are all of you righteous heroes doing yourself about this situation? You all feel so strongly about it and attack anyone who isn’t fully committed to the destruction of Israel. So what are you actually all doing about it?
Or all you all just whining on an anonymous forum that makes zero difference to anything?
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You're just proving the point. Anyone that points out that Israel are the occupiers and created the conditions necessary for terrorist organisations like Hamas to exist with their apartheid system in Palestine, and highlight their gruesome human rights offences and contravention of international laws is "attacking anyone that isn't fully committed to the destruction of Israel".
Criticism of Israel acts as a trigger to you and you then automatically come out with these statements without even thinking and it seems you can't help yourself from doing it even when the facts are blatant.
What are YOU doing about Hamas and Israel's enemies apart from whining on an anonymous forum that makes zero difference to anything?
Western media documentary on Al Jazeera right now.
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Fred: Sign Someone!!!! (U3979)
posted 7 minutes ago
Yeah and the thing is I don’t think you’ll find anybody willing to condone Israel’s indiscriminate murder of civilians in Gaza and now Lebanon and see it as anything other than abhorrent.
But then I find the cowardice of Hamas and Hezbollah hiding behind civilians despicable also.
And I find the cowardice of Iran funding proxy wars with Israel and Saudi also appalling.
I also think the U.S. / UK etc need to back off as well, not sure why we should be steadfastly supporting Israel the way we are at the moment but I’m sure somebody can educate me as to why (without resorting to conspiracy theories).
Which is why I say there are cvnts all on sides even if right now what Israel are doing is what we should be focusing on.
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Correct me if I'm mistaken, but weren't you the one saying earlier on this thread that you'd sleep very peacefully after murdering the entire family of someone who'd murdered your child?
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Unfortunately for Fred this is actually the Zionist pov
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Except it’s not just a Zionist thing, is it? It applies every time innocent people are killed because of the actions of others. Innocent Germans died in air raids in WW2, innocent Americans on 9/11, and believe it or not, innocent Israelis during the Hamas attack. The list is endless.
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I think when its policy to kill kids because they'll grow up to get revenge is the issue I have. They target kids and then make tik toks showing their crimes.
Hamas attack on 0ct 7th killed more than 50% military personnel thats a 1:1 ratio. Show me anywhere close to this kind of outcome.
Palestinians under international law are allowed to violently attack Israel as they are being illegally occupied. This isn't my law it's just a fact
Term well and truly getting owned by mamba
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 26 minutes ago
Fred do you use the both sides are Cuuuuntz in the Russian/Ukrainian war?
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When Russia took crimea, were Ukraine firing rockets and mortars into russia, targetting civillians? planning terrorists atks etc? Must have missed it if they were.
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 26 minutes ago
Fred do you use the both sides are Cuuuuntz in the Russian/Ukrainian war?
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When Russia took crimea, were Ukraine firing rockets and mortars into russia, targetting civillians? planning terrorists atks etc? Must have missed it if they were.
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No, they were cozying up to he west, planning to join NATO and other things that were as good or worse than firing rockets into Russia.
Palestinians under international law are allowed to violently attack Israel as they are being illegally occupied. This isn't my law it's just a fact
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_Nations_resolutions_concerning_Israel
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 3 hours, 1 minute ago
Out of curiosity, what are all of you righteous heroes doing yourself about this situation? You all feel so strongly about it and attack anyone who isn’t fully committed to the destruction of Israel. So what are you actually all doing about it?
Or all you all just whining on an anonymous forum that makes zero difference to anything?
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You're just proving the point. Anyone that points out that Israel are the occupiers and created the conditions necessary for terrorist organisations like Hamas to exist with their apartheid system in Palestine, and highlight their gruesome human rights offences and contravention of international laws is "attacking anyone that isn't fully committed to the destruction of Israel".
Criticism of Israel acts as a trigger to you and you then automatically come out with these statements without even thinking and it seems you can't help yourself from doing it even when the facts are blatant.
What are YOU doing about Hamas and Israel's enemies apart from whining on an anonymous forum that makes zero difference to anything?
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As usual Mamba, you’re seeing what you want to see. Nothing I’ve posted suggests defence of anything Israel has done, but you continue with the rhetoric that I support their actions. It’s not criticism of Israel that prompts what I post, it’s the refusal to acknowledge the part of Iran, Hamas etc have played in the current events. The fact that you’re going back 80 years to justify what Hamas did a year ago is ridiculous. It’s one of the worst tactical and military decisions I can think of, knowingly sacrificing thousands of Palestinian lives, and to what end?
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 9 minutes ago
Term well and truly getting owned by mamba
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But sad that you see this as winning and losing on the internet. Grow up.
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 3 hours, 1 minute ago
Out of curiosity, what are all of you righteous heroes doing yourself about this situation? You all feel so strongly about it and attack anyone who isn’t fully committed to the destruction of Israel. So what are you actually all doing about it?
Or all you all just whining on an anonymous forum that makes zero difference to anything?
---------------------------------------------------------------------
You're just proving the point. Anyone that points out that Israel are the occupiers and created the conditions necessary for terrorist organisations like Hamas to exist with their apartheid system in Palestine, and highlight their gruesome human rights offences and contravention of international laws is "attacking anyone that isn't fully committed to the destruction of Israel".
Criticism of Israel acts as a trigger to you and you then automatically come out with these statements without even thinking and it seems you can't help yourself from doing it even when the facts are blatant.
What are YOU doing about Hamas and Israel's enemies apart from whining on an anonymous forum that makes zero difference to anything?
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As usual Mamba, you’re seeing what you want to see. Nothing I’ve posted suggests defence of anything Israel has done, but you continue with the rhetoric that I support their actions. It’s not criticism of Israel that prompts what I post, it’s the refusal to acknowledge the part of Iran, Hamas etc have played in the current events. The fact that you’re going back 80 years to justify what Hamas did a year ago is ridiculous. It’s one of the worst tactical and military decisions I can think of, knowingly sacrificing thousands of Palestinian lives, and to what end?
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Who was talking of a Palestinian state on Oct 6th?
Israel was about to normalise with Saudi
The whole world wants an independent Palestinian state, we most not the Israeli regime though. It's in their charter that there will never be an independent Palestinian state
Hamas is still in charge of most of gaza. Israel has failed when looking at their stated goals of the war hence the Hezbollah attacks. Israel doesn't want peace. It wants greater Israel
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Fred: Sign Someone!!!! (U3979)
posted 7 minutes ago
Yeah and the thing is I don’t think you’ll find anybody willing to condone Israel’s indiscriminate murder of civilians in Gaza and now Lebanon and see it as anything other than abhorrent.
But then I find the cowardice of Hamas and Hezbollah hiding behind civilians despicable also.
And I find the cowardice of Iran funding proxy wars with Israel and Saudi also appalling.
I also think the U.S. / UK etc need to back off as well, not sure why we should be steadfastly supporting Israel the way we are at the moment but I’m sure somebody can educate me as to why (without resorting to conspiracy theories).
Which is why I say there are cvnts all on sides even if right now what Israel are doing is what we should be focusing on.
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Correct me if I'm mistaken, but weren't you the one saying earlier on this thread that you'd sleep very peacefully after murdering the entire family of someone who'd murdered your child?
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Unfortunately for Fred this is actually the Zionist pov
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Except it’s not just a Zionist thing, is it? It applies every time innocent people are killed because of the actions of others. Innocent Germans died in air raids in WW2, innocent Americans on 9/11, and believe it or not, innocent Israelis during the Hamas attack. The list is endless.
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I think when its policy to kill kids because they'll grow up to get revenge is the issue I have. They target kids and then make tik toks showing their crimes.
Hamas attack on 0ct 7th killed more than 50% military personnel thats a 1:1 ratio. Show me anywhere close to this kind of outcome.
Palestinians under international law are allowed to violently attack Israel as they are being illegally occupied. This isn't my law it's just a fact
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I think you’re very selective in your rights and wrongs. So Hamas only had a kill rate of 50% civilians in their attack and you’re peddling this as a positive?
I give up.
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Fred: Sign Someone!!!! (U3979)
posted 7 minutes ago
Yeah and the thing is I don’t think you’ll find anybody willing to condone Israel’s indiscriminate murder of civilians in Gaza and now Lebanon and see it as anything other than abhorrent.
But then I find the cowardice of Hamas and Hezbollah hiding behind civilians despicable also.
And I find the cowardice of Iran funding proxy wars with Israel and Saudi also appalling.
I also think the U.S. / UK etc need to back off as well, not sure why we should be steadfastly supporting Israel the way we are at the moment but I’m sure somebody can educate me as to why (without resorting to conspiracy theories).
Which is why I say there are cvnts all on sides even if right now what Israel are doing is what we should be focusing on.
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Correct me if I'm mistaken, but weren't you the one saying earlier on this thread that you'd sleep very peacefully after murdering the entire family of someone who'd murdered your child?
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Unfortunately for Fred this is actually the Zionist pov
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Except it’s not just a Zionist thing, is it? It applies every time innocent people are killed because of the actions of others. Innocent Germans died in air raids in WW2, innocent Americans on 9/11, and believe it or not, innocent Israelis during the Hamas attack. The list is endless.
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I think when its policy to kill kids because they'll grow up to get revenge is the issue I have. They target kids and then make tik toks showing their crimes.
Hamas attack on 0ct 7th killed more than 50% military personnel thats a 1:1 ratio. Show me anywhere close to this kind of outcome.
Palestinians under international law are allowed to violently attack Israel as they are being illegally occupied. This isn't my law it's just a fact
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I think you’re very selective in your rights and wrongs. So Hamas only had a kill rate of 50% civilians in their attack and you’re peddling this as a positive?
I give up.
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No im showing the hypocrisy of labelling one side terrorists when Israel is far worse
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 26 minutes ago
Fred do you use the both sides are Cuuuuntz in the Russian/Ukrainian war?
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When Russia took crimea, were Ukraine firing rockets and mortars into russia, targetting civillians? planning terrorists atks etc? Must have missed it if they were.
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No, they were cozying up to he west, planning to join NATO and other things that were as good or worse than firing rockets into Russia.
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What?!
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 3 hours, 1 minute ago
Out of curiosity, what are all of you righteous heroes doing yourself about this situation? You all feel so strongly about it and attack anyone who isn’t fully committed to the destruction of Israel. So what are you actually all doing about it?
Or all you all just whining on an anonymous forum that makes zero difference to anything?
---------------------------------------------------------------------
You're just proving the point. Anyone that points out that Israel are the occupiers and created the conditions necessary for terrorist organisations like Hamas to exist with their apartheid system in Palestine, and highlight their gruesome human rights offences and contravention of international laws is "attacking anyone that isn't fully committed to the destruction of Israel".
Criticism of Israel acts as a trigger to you and you then automatically come out with these statements without even thinking and it seems you can't help yourself from doing it even when the facts are blatant.
What are YOU doing about Hamas and Israel's enemies apart from whining on an anonymous forum that makes zero difference to anything?
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As usual Mamba, you’re seeing what you want to see. Nothing I’ve posted suggests defence of anything Israel has done, but you continue with the rhetoric that I support their actions. It’s not criticism of Israel that prompts what I post, it’s the refusal to acknowledge the part of Iran, Hamas etc have played in the current events. The fact that you’re going back 80 years to justify what Hamas did a year ago is ridiculous. It’s one of the worst tactical and military decisions I can think of, knowingly sacrificing thousands of Palestinian lives, and to what end?
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So Hamas' actions on Oct 7th led to knowingly sacrificing Palestinian lives. Where was the concern for Palestinian lives of those illegally imprisoned and abused or forced from their homes by settlers in the years/decades prior to Oct 7th?
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 3 hours, 1 minute ago
Out of curiosity, what are all of you righteous heroes doing yourself about this situation? You all feel so strongly about it and attack anyone who isn’t fully committed to the destruction of Israel. So what are you actually all doing about it?
Or all you all just whining on an anonymous forum that makes zero difference to anything?
---------------------------------------------------------------------
You're just proving the point. Anyone that points out that Israel are the occupiers and created the conditions necessary for terrorist organisations like Hamas to exist with their apartheid system in Palestine, and highlight their gruesome human rights offences and contravention of international laws is "attacking anyone that isn't fully committed to the destruction of Israel".
Criticism of Israel acts as a trigger to you and you then automatically come out with these statements without even thinking and it seems you can't help yourself from doing it even when the facts are blatant.
What are YOU doing about Hamas and Israel's enemies apart from whining on an anonymous forum that makes zero difference to anything?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
As usual Mamba, you’re seeing what you want to see. Nothing I’ve posted suggests defence of anything Israel has done, but you continue with the rhetoric that I support their actions. It’s not criticism of Israel that prompts what I post, it’s the refusal to acknowledge the part of Iran, Hamas etc have played in the current events. The fact that you’re going back 80 years to justify what Hamas did a year ago is ridiculous. It’s one of the worst tactical and military decisions I can think of, knowingly sacrificing thousands of Palestinian lives, and to what end?
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Who was talking of a Palestinian state on Oct 6th?
Israel was about to normalise with Saudi
The whole world wants an independent Palestinian state, we most not the Israeli regime though. It's in their charter that there will never be an independent Palestinian state
Hamas is still in charge of most of gaza. Israel has failed when looking at their stated goals of the war hence the Hezbollah attacks. Israel doesn't want peace. It wants greater Israel
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That’s fine, I wish that the Palestinians could have their own state and believe Israel should let them. However, that attack has done nothing to move that possibility any closer, has had the opposite effect if you’re willing to be honest.
If you think that the Hamas attack was worth the suffering inflicted on the Palestinians since then, then there’s nothing I could ever say that will change your view. But to me, it’s either action for actions sake, which rarely ends well or achieves the desired result, or even worse is the possibility that Hamas have been manipulated by Iran to trigger these events.
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 26 minutes ago
Fred do you use the both sides are Cuuuuntz in the Russian/Ukrainian war?
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When Russia took crimea, were Ukraine firing rockets and mortars into russia, targetting civillians? planning terrorists atks etc? Must have missed it if they were.
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No, they were cozying up to he west, planning to join NATO and other things that were as good or worse than firing rockets into Russia.
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ffs what a load of tosh. So you're a russia sympathiser now aswell as hamas etc. Got it.
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 3 hours, 1 minute ago
Out of curiosity, what are all of you righteous heroes doing yourself about this situation? You all feel so strongly about it and attack anyone who isn’t fully committed to the destruction of Israel. So what are you actually all doing about it?
Or all you all just whining on an anonymous forum that makes zero difference to anything?
---------------------------------------------------------------------
You're just proving the point. Anyone that points out that Israel are the occupiers and created the conditions necessary for terrorist organisations like Hamas to exist with their apartheid system in Palestine, and highlight their gruesome human rights offences and contravention of international laws is "attacking anyone that isn't fully committed to the destruction of Israel".
Criticism of Israel acts as a trigger to you and you then automatically come out with these statements without even thinking and it seems you can't help yourself from doing it even when the facts are blatant.
What are YOU doing about Hamas and Israel's enemies apart from whining on an anonymous forum that makes zero difference to anything?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
As usual Mamba, you’re seeing what you want to see. Nothing I’ve posted suggests defence of anything Israel has done, but you continue with the rhetoric that I support their actions. It’s not criticism of Israel that prompts what I post, it’s the refusal to acknowledge the part of Iran, Hamas etc have played in the current events. The fact that you’re going back 80 years to justify what Hamas did a year ago is ridiculous. It’s one of the worst tactical and military decisions I can think of, knowingly sacrificing thousands of Palestinian lives, and to what end?
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So Hamas' actions on Oct 7th led to knowingly sacrificing Palestinian lives. Where was the concern for Palestinian lives of those illegally imprisoned and abused or forced from their homes by settlers in the years/decades prior to Oct 7th?
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Justifying a wrong with a wrong. Nice one.
comment by Fred: Sign Someone!!!! (U3979)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 26 minutes ago
Fred do you use the both sides are Cuuuuntz in the Russian/Ukrainian war?
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When Russia took crimea, were Ukraine firing rockets and mortars into russia, targetting civillians? planning terrorists atks etc? Must have missed it if they were.
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No, they were cozying up to he west, planning to join NATO and other things that were as good or worse than firing rockets into Russia.
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What?!
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I knew Mamba was a bit mad, but this takes the biscuit
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 26 minutes ago
Fred do you use the both sides are Cuuuuntz in the Russian/Ukrainian war?
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When Russia took crimea, were Ukraine firing rockets and mortars into russia, targetting civillians? planning terrorists atks etc? Must have missed it if they were.
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No, they were cozying up to he west, planning to join NATO and other things that were as good or worse than firing rockets into Russia.
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fam, now you get it
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Fred: Sign Someone!!!! (U3979)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 26 minutes ago
Fred do you use the both sides are Cuuuuntz in the Russian/Ukrainian war?
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When Russia took crimea, were Ukraine firing rockets and mortars into russia, targetting civillians? planning terrorists atks etc? Must have missed it if they were.
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No, they were cozying up to he west, planning to join NATO and other things that were as good or worse than firing rockets into Russia.
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What?!
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I knew Mamba was a bit mad, but this takes the biscuit
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I was waiting for the punchline when I read it
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Fred: Sign Someone!!!! (U3979)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 26 minutes ago
Fred do you use the both sides are Cuuuuntz in the Russian/Ukrainian war?
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When Russia took crimea, were Ukraine firing rockets and mortars into russia, targetting civillians? planning terrorists atks etc? Must have missed it if they were.
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No, they were cozying up to he west, planning to join NATO and other things that were as good or worse than firing rockets into Russia.
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What?!
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I knew Mamba was a bit mad, but this takes the biscuit
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The fack is wrong with you two? Those are the reasons Russia has given for the war.
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 1 second ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 3 hours, 1 minute ago
Out of curiosity, what are all of you righteous heroes doing yourself about this situation? You all feel so strongly about it and attack anyone who isn’t fully committed to the destruction of Israel. So what are you actually all doing about it?
Or all you all just whining on an anonymous forum that makes zero difference to anything?
---------------------------------------------------------------------
You're just proving the point. Anyone that points out that Israel are the occupiers and created the conditions necessary for terrorist organisations like Hamas to exist with their apartheid system in Palestine, and highlight their gruesome human rights offences and contravention of international laws is "attacking anyone that isn't fully committed to the destruction of Israel".
Criticism of Israel acts as a trigger to you and you then automatically come out with these statements without even thinking and it seems you can't help yourself from doing it even when the facts are blatant.
What are YOU doing about Hamas and Israel's enemies apart from whining on an anonymous forum that makes zero difference to anything?
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As usual Mamba, you’re seeing what you want to see. Nothing I’ve posted suggests defence of anything Israel has done, but you continue with the rhetoric that I support their actions. It’s not criticism of Israel that prompts what I post, it’s the refusal to acknowledge the part of Iran, Hamas etc have played in the current events. The fact that you’re going back 80 years to justify what Hamas did a year ago is ridiculous. It’s one of the worst tactical and military decisions I can think of, knowingly sacrificing thousands of Palestinian lives, and to what end?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So Hamas' actions on Oct 7th led to knowingly sacrificing Palestinian lives. Where was the concern for Palestinian lives of those illegally imprisoned and abused or forced from their homes by settlers in the years/decades prior to Oct 7th?
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Justifying a wrong with a wrong. Nice one.
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Erm no
Interesting your concern for the people of Palestine only extends to when Hamas are supposedly to blame and not when Israel is in the wrong according to international law.
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 3 hours, 1 minute ago
Out of curiosity, what are all of you righteous heroes doing yourself about this situation? You all feel so strongly about it and attack anyone who isn’t fully committed to the destruction of Israel. So what are you actually all doing about it?
Or all you all just whining on an anonymous forum that makes zero difference to anything?
---------------------------------------------------------------------
You're just proving the point. Anyone that points out that Israel are the occupiers and created the conditions necessary for terrorist organisations like Hamas to exist with their apartheid system in Palestine, and highlight their gruesome human rights offences and contravention of international laws is "attacking anyone that isn't fully committed to the destruction of Israel".
Criticism of Israel acts as a trigger to you and you then automatically come out with these statements without even thinking and it seems you can't help yourself from doing it even when the facts are blatant.
What are YOU doing about Hamas and Israel's enemies apart from whining on an anonymous forum that makes zero difference to anything?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
As usual Mamba, you’re seeing what you want to see. Nothing I’ve posted suggests defence of anything Israel has done, but you continue with the rhetoric that I support their actions. It’s not criticism of Israel that prompts what I post, it’s the refusal to acknowledge the part of Iran, Hamas etc have played in the current events. The fact that you’re going back 80 years to justify what Hamas did a year ago is ridiculous. It’s one of the worst tactical and military decisions I can think of, knowingly sacrificing thousands of Palestinian lives, and to what end?
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Making out like Hamas or any of Israel's enemies are the beginnings of this conflict like you tried to do is defending the actions of Israel. It is making a case for their occupation of Palestine, apartheid on the people and the current genocide.
The occupation and consequent trampling of human rights, which continues to this day, is the root cause and the biggest impediment to peace and stability in the region. What kind of knucklehead doesn't see that by now?
Historically, Israel could have easily kept to it's own borders and secured it's territory. Failing that, it could have also treated people who fell under it's control with human dignity and equality of all men, instead of running a class system based on religion/race and then acting surprised when the inevitable violent uprising occurs. All this while at the same time trying to build towards peaceful coexistence with it's neighbours.
Some of Israel's neighbours had already softened their stance massively over the decades and before this war, even building relations with Israel. There is no Hamas in West Bank and we see the same thing, so Hamas is clearly not the cause, but a reaction. The PLO is in the West Bank and they acknowledge Israel's right to exist and want to peacefully work towards peace. They are ignored by Israel while Palestinians are constantly being forcefully and violently displaced in favour of new Israeli settlements.
Over 10,000 people have been held without trial in the West Bank since Oct 7. Hundreds killed. There is no Hamas in the West Bank, only PLO, who have put down their arms and acknowledged Israel. I don't see how that has helped.
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Fred: Sign Someone!!!! (U3979)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 26 minutes ago
Fred do you use the both sides are Cuuuuntz in the Russian/Ukrainian war?
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When Russia took crimea, were Ukraine firing rockets and mortars into russia, targetting civillians? planning terrorists atks etc? Must have missed it if they were.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, they were cozying up to he west, planning to join NATO and other things that were as good or worse than firing rockets into Russia.
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What?!
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I knew Mamba was a bit mad, but this takes the biscuit
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The fack is wrong with you two? Those are the reasons Russia has given for the war.
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Ah sorry Mamba, my bad. Putin said it so that’s ok. Feck hell
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 3 hours, 1 minute ago
Out of curiosity, what are all of you righteous heroes doing yourself about this situation? You all feel so strongly about it and attack anyone who isn’t fully committed to the destruction of Israel. So what are you actually all doing about it?
Or all you all just whining on an anonymous forum that makes zero difference to anything?
---------------------------------------------------------------------
You're just proving the point. Anyone that points out that Israel are the occupiers and created the conditions necessary for terrorist organisations like Hamas to exist with their apartheid system in Palestine, and highlight their gruesome human rights offences and contravention of international laws is "attacking anyone that isn't fully committed to the destruction of Israel".
Criticism of Israel acts as a trigger to you and you then automatically come out with these statements without even thinking and it seems you can't help yourself from doing it even when the facts are blatant.
What are YOU doing about Hamas and Israel's enemies apart from whining on an anonymous forum that makes zero difference to anything?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
As usual Mamba, you’re seeing what you want to see. Nothing I’ve posted suggests defence of anything Israel has done, but you continue with the rhetoric that I support their actions. It’s not criticism of Israel that prompts what I post, it’s the refusal to acknowledge the part of Iran, Hamas etc have played in the current events. The fact that you’re going back 80 years to justify what Hamas did a year ago is ridiculous. It’s one of the worst tactical and military decisions I can think of, knowingly sacrificing thousands of Palestinian lives, and to what end?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who was talking of a Palestinian state on Oct 6th?
Israel was about to normalise with Saudi
The whole world wants an independent Palestinian state, we most not the Israeli regime though. It's in their charter that there will never be an independent Palestinian state
Hamas is still in charge of most of gaza. Israel has failed when looking at their stated goals of the war hence the Hezbollah attacks. Israel doesn't want peace. It wants greater Israel
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That’s fine, I wish that the Palestinians could have their own state and believe Israel should let them. However, that attack has done nothing to move that possibility any closer, has had the opposite effect if you’re willing to be honest.
If you think that the Hamas attack was worth the suffering inflicted on the Palestinians since then, then there’s nothing I could ever say that will change your view. But to me, it’s either action for actions sake, which rarely ends well or achieves the desired result, or even worse is the possibility that Hamas have been manipulated by Iran to trigger these events.
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I said Israel has to go and you called me a physcopath
Israel will NEVER agree to a 2 state solution. As I've pointed out numerous times. Its in their charter just like Hamas has destruction of Israel in their charter which you are quick to point out.
So the other option is a ONE state solution where equal rights to all Jews, Muslims and Christians (and atheists) now shall I tell you why Israel won't agree to this? Its because if it was a true democracy then the Jews would be a minority so they'll never accept this.
They don't want peace. The government needs regime change in order for peace. Cmon us/uk sort it out. Oh no you keep arming, funding and providing diplomatic support for them.
US needs to be ejected from UN using article 6 and the world would be a more peaceful place. They're yhe biggest war mongers on earth. Always at war since their creation
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posted on 8/10/24
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 3 hours, 1 minute ago
Out of curiosity, what are all of you righteous heroes doing yourself about this situation? You all feel so strongly about it and attack anyone who isn’t fully committed to the destruction of Israel. So what are you actually all doing about it?
Or all you all just whining on an anonymous forum that makes zero difference to anything?
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You're just proving the point. Anyone that points out that Israel are the occupiers and created the conditions necessary for terrorist organisations like Hamas to exist with their apartheid system in Palestine, and highlight their gruesome human rights offences and contravention of international laws is "attacking anyone that isn't fully committed to the destruction of Israel".
Criticism of Israel acts as a trigger to you and you then automatically come out with these statements without even thinking and it seems you can't help yourself from doing it even when the facts are blatant.
What are YOU doing about Hamas and Israel's enemies apart from whining on an anonymous forum that makes zero difference to anything?
posted on 8/10/24
Western media documentary on Al Jazeera right now.
posted on 8/10/24
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Fred: Sign Someone!!!! (U3979)
posted 7 minutes ago
Yeah and the thing is I don’t think you’ll find anybody willing to condone Israel’s indiscriminate murder of civilians in Gaza and now Lebanon and see it as anything other than abhorrent.
But then I find the cowardice of Hamas and Hezbollah hiding behind civilians despicable also.
And I find the cowardice of Iran funding proxy wars with Israel and Saudi also appalling.
I also think the U.S. / UK etc need to back off as well, not sure why we should be steadfastly supporting Israel the way we are at the moment but I’m sure somebody can educate me as to why (without resorting to conspiracy theories).
Which is why I say there are cvnts all on sides even if right now what Israel are doing is what we should be focusing on.
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Correct me if I'm mistaken, but weren't you the one saying earlier on this thread that you'd sleep very peacefully after murdering the entire family of someone who'd murdered your child?
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Unfortunately for Fred this is actually the Zionist pov
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Except it’s not just a Zionist thing, is it? It applies every time innocent people are killed because of the actions of others. Innocent Germans died in air raids in WW2, innocent Americans on 9/11, and believe it or not, innocent Israelis during the Hamas attack. The list is endless.
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I think when its policy to kill kids because they'll grow up to get revenge is the issue I have. They target kids and then make tik toks showing their crimes.
Hamas attack on 0ct 7th killed more than 50% military personnel thats a 1:1 ratio. Show me anywhere close to this kind of outcome.
Palestinians under international law are allowed to violently attack Israel as they are being illegally occupied. This isn't my law it's just a fact
posted on 8/10/24
Term well and truly getting owned by mamba
posted on 8/10/24
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 26 minutes ago
Fred do you use the both sides are Cuuuuntz in the Russian/Ukrainian war?
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When Russia took crimea, were Ukraine firing rockets and mortars into russia, targetting civillians? planning terrorists atks etc? Must have missed it if they were.
posted on 8/10/24
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 26 minutes ago
Fred do you use the both sides are Cuuuuntz in the Russian/Ukrainian war?
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When Russia took crimea, were Ukraine firing rockets and mortars into russia, targetting civillians? planning terrorists atks etc? Must have missed it if they were.
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No, they were cozying up to he west, planning to join NATO and other things that were as good or worse than firing rockets into Russia.
posted on 8/10/24
Palestinians under international law are allowed to violently attack Israel as they are being illegally occupied. This isn't my law it's just a fact
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_Nations_resolutions_concerning_Israel
posted on 8/10/24
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 3 hours, 1 minute ago
Out of curiosity, what are all of you righteous heroes doing yourself about this situation? You all feel so strongly about it and attack anyone who isn’t fully committed to the destruction of Israel. So what are you actually all doing about it?
Or all you all just whining on an anonymous forum that makes zero difference to anything?
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You're just proving the point. Anyone that points out that Israel are the occupiers and created the conditions necessary for terrorist organisations like Hamas to exist with their apartheid system in Palestine, and highlight their gruesome human rights offences and contravention of international laws is "attacking anyone that isn't fully committed to the destruction of Israel".
Criticism of Israel acts as a trigger to you and you then automatically come out with these statements without even thinking and it seems you can't help yourself from doing it even when the facts are blatant.
What are YOU doing about Hamas and Israel's enemies apart from whining on an anonymous forum that makes zero difference to anything?
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As usual Mamba, you’re seeing what you want to see. Nothing I’ve posted suggests defence of anything Israel has done, but you continue with the rhetoric that I support their actions. It’s not criticism of Israel that prompts what I post, it’s the refusal to acknowledge the part of Iran, Hamas etc have played in the current events. The fact that you’re going back 80 years to justify what Hamas did a year ago is ridiculous. It’s one of the worst tactical and military decisions I can think of, knowingly sacrificing thousands of Palestinian lives, and to what end?
posted on 8/10/24
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 9 minutes ago
Term well and truly getting owned by mamba
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But sad that you see this as winning and losing on the internet. Grow up.
posted on 8/10/24
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 3 hours, 1 minute ago
Out of curiosity, what are all of you righteous heroes doing yourself about this situation? You all feel so strongly about it and attack anyone who isn’t fully committed to the destruction of Israel. So what are you actually all doing about it?
Or all you all just whining on an anonymous forum that makes zero difference to anything?
---------------------------------------------------------------------
You're just proving the point. Anyone that points out that Israel are the occupiers and created the conditions necessary for terrorist organisations like Hamas to exist with their apartheid system in Palestine, and highlight their gruesome human rights offences and contravention of international laws is "attacking anyone that isn't fully committed to the destruction of Israel".
Criticism of Israel acts as a trigger to you and you then automatically come out with these statements without even thinking and it seems you can't help yourself from doing it even when the facts are blatant.
What are YOU doing about Hamas and Israel's enemies apart from whining on an anonymous forum that makes zero difference to anything?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
As usual Mamba, you’re seeing what you want to see. Nothing I’ve posted suggests defence of anything Israel has done, but you continue with the rhetoric that I support their actions. It’s not criticism of Israel that prompts what I post, it’s the refusal to acknowledge the part of Iran, Hamas etc have played in the current events. The fact that you’re going back 80 years to justify what Hamas did a year ago is ridiculous. It’s one of the worst tactical and military decisions I can think of, knowingly sacrificing thousands of Palestinian lives, and to what end?
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Who was talking of a Palestinian state on Oct 6th?
Israel was about to normalise with Saudi
The whole world wants an independent Palestinian state, we most not the Israeli regime though. It's in their charter that there will never be an independent Palestinian state
Hamas is still in charge of most of gaza. Israel has failed when looking at their stated goals of the war hence the Hezbollah attacks. Israel doesn't want peace. It wants greater Israel
posted on 8/10/24
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Fred: Sign Someone!!!! (U3979)
posted 7 minutes ago
Yeah and the thing is I don’t think you’ll find anybody willing to condone Israel’s indiscriminate murder of civilians in Gaza and now Lebanon and see it as anything other than abhorrent.
But then I find the cowardice of Hamas and Hezbollah hiding behind civilians despicable also.
And I find the cowardice of Iran funding proxy wars with Israel and Saudi also appalling.
I also think the U.S. / UK etc need to back off as well, not sure why we should be steadfastly supporting Israel the way we are at the moment but I’m sure somebody can educate me as to why (without resorting to conspiracy theories).
Which is why I say there are cvnts all on sides even if right now what Israel are doing is what we should be focusing on.
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Correct me if I'm mistaken, but weren't you the one saying earlier on this thread that you'd sleep very peacefully after murdering the entire family of someone who'd murdered your child?
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Unfortunately for Fred this is actually the Zionist pov
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Except it’s not just a Zionist thing, is it? It applies every time innocent people are killed because of the actions of others. Innocent Germans died in air raids in WW2, innocent Americans on 9/11, and believe it or not, innocent Israelis during the Hamas attack. The list is endless.
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I think when its policy to kill kids because they'll grow up to get revenge is the issue I have. They target kids and then make tik toks showing their crimes.
Hamas attack on 0ct 7th killed more than 50% military personnel thats a 1:1 ratio. Show me anywhere close to this kind of outcome.
Palestinians under international law are allowed to violently attack Israel as they are being illegally occupied. This isn't my law it's just a fact
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I think you’re very selective in your rights and wrongs. So Hamas only had a kill rate of 50% civilians in their attack and you’re peddling this as a positive?
I give up.
posted on 8/10/24
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Fred: Sign Someone!!!! (U3979)
posted 7 minutes ago
Yeah and the thing is I don’t think you’ll find anybody willing to condone Israel’s indiscriminate murder of civilians in Gaza and now Lebanon and see it as anything other than abhorrent.
But then I find the cowardice of Hamas and Hezbollah hiding behind civilians despicable also.
And I find the cowardice of Iran funding proxy wars with Israel and Saudi also appalling.
I also think the U.S. / UK etc need to back off as well, not sure why we should be steadfastly supporting Israel the way we are at the moment but I’m sure somebody can educate me as to why (without resorting to conspiracy theories).
Which is why I say there are cvnts all on sides even if right now what Israel are doing is what we should be focusing on.
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Correct me if I'm mistaken, but weren't you the one saying earlier on this thread that you'd sleep very peacefully after murdering the entire family of someone who'd murdered your child?
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Unfortunately for Fred this is actually the Zionist pov
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Except it’s not just a Zionist thing, is it? It applies every time innocent people are killed because of the actions of others. Innocent Germans died in air raids in WW2, innocent Americans on 9/11, and believe it or not, innocent Israelis during the Hamas attack. The list is endless.
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I think when its policy to kill kids because they'll grow up to get revenge is the issue I have. They target kids and then make tik toks showing their crimes.
Hamas attack on 0ct 7th killed more than 50% military personnel thats a 1:1 ratio. Show me anywhere close to this kind of outcome.
Palestinians under international law are allowed to violently attack Israel as they are being illegally occupied. This isn't my law it's just a fact
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I think you’re very selective in your rights and wrongs. So Hamas only had a kill rate of 50% civilians in their attack and you’re peddling this as a positive?
I give up.
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No im showing the hypocrisy of labelling one side terrorists when Israel is far worse
posted on 8/10/24
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 26 minutes ago
Fred do you use the both sides are Cuuuuntz in the Russian/Ukrainian war?
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When Russia took crimea, were Ukraine firing rockets and mortars into russia, targetting civillians? planning terrorists atks etc? Must have missed it if they were.
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No, they were cozying up to he west, planning to join NATO and other things that were as good or worse than firing rockets into Russia.
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What?!
posted on 8/10/24
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 3 hours, 1 minute ago
Out of curiosity, what are all of you righteous heroes doing yourself about this situation? You all feel so strongly about it and attack anyone who isn’t fully committed to the destruction of Israel. So what are you actually all doing about it?
Or all you all just whining on an anonymous forum that makes zero difference to anything?
---------------------------------------------------------------------
You're just proving the point. Anyone that points out that Israel are the occupiers and created the conditions necessary for terrorist organisations like Hamas to exist with their apartheid system in Palestine, and highlight their gruesome human rights offences and contravention of international laws is "attacking anyone that isn't fully committed to the destruction of Israel".
Criticism of Israel acts as a trigger to you and you then automatically come out with these statements without even thinking and it seems you can't help yourself from doing it even when the facts are blatant.
What are YOU doing about Hamas and Israel's enemies apart from whining on an anonymous forum that makes zero difference to anything?
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As usual Mamba, you’re seeing what you want to see. Nothing I’ve posted suggests defence of anything Israel has done, but you continue with the rhetoric that I support their actions. It’s not criticism of Israel that prompts what I post, it’s the refusal to acknowledge the part of Iran, Hamas etc have played in the current events. The fact that you’re going back 80 years to justify what Hamas did a year ago is ridiculous. It’s one of the worst tactical and military decisions I can think of, knowingly sacrificing thousands of Palestinian lives, and to what end?
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So Hamas' actions on Oct 7th led to knowingly sacrificing Palestinian lives. Where was the concern for Palestinian lives of those illegally imprisoned and abused or forced from their homes by settlers in the years/decades prior to Oct 7th?
posted on 8/10/24
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 3 hours, 1 minute ago
Out of curiosity, what are all of you righteous heroes doing yourself about this situation? You all feel so strongly about it and attack anyone who isn’t fully committed to the destruction of Israel. So what are you actually all doing about it?
Or all you all just whining on an anonymous forum that makes zero difference to anything?
---------------------------------------------------------------------
You're just proving the point. Anyone that points out that Israel are the occupiers and created the conditions necessary for terrorist organisations like Hamas to exist with their apartheid system in Palestine, and highlight their gruesome human rights offences and contravention of international laws is "attacking anyone that isn't fully committed to the destruction of Israel".
Criticism of Israel acts as a trigger to you and you then automatically come out with these statements without even thinking and it seems you can't help yourself from doing it even when the facts are blatant.
What are YOU doing about Hamas and Israel's enemies apart from whining on an anonymous forum that makes zero difference to anything?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
As usual Mamba, you’re seeing what you want to see. Nothing I’ve posted suggests defence of anything Israel has done, but you continue with the rhetoric that I support their actions. It’s not criticism of Israel that prompts what I post, it’s the refusal to acknowledge the part of Iran, Hamas etc have played in the current events. The fact that you’re going back 80 years to justify what Hamas did a year ago is ridiculous. It’s one of the worst tactical and military decisions I can think of, knowingly sacrificing thousands of Palestinian lives, and to what end?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who was talking of a Palestinian state on Oct 6th?
Israel was about to normalise with Saudi
The whole world wants an independent Palestinian state, we most not the Israeli regime though. It's in their charter that there will never be an independent Palestinian state
Hamas is still in charge of most of gaza. Israel has failed when looking at their stated goals of the war hence the Hezbollah attacks. Israel doesn't want peace. It wants greater Israel
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That’s fine, I wish that the Palestinians could have their own state and believe Israel should let them. However, that attack has done nothing to move that possibility any closer, has had the opposite effect if you’re willing to be honest.
If you think that the Hamas attack was worth the suffering inflicted on the Palestinians since then, then there’s nothing I could ever say that will change your view. But to me, it’s either action for actions sake, which rarely ends well or achieves the desired result, or even worse is the possibility that Hamas have been manipulated by Iran to trigger these events.
posted on 8/10/24
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 26 minutes ago
Fred do you use the both sides are Cuuuuntz in the Russian/Ukrainian war?
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When Russia took crimea, were Ukraine firing rockets and mortars into russia, targetting civillians? planning terrorists atks etc? Must have missed it if they were.
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No, they were cozying up to he west, planning to join NATO and other things that were as good or worse than firing rockets into Russia.
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ffs what a load of tosh. So you're a russia sympathiser now aswell as hamas etc. Got it.
posted on 8/10/24
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 3 hours, 1 minute ago
Out of curiosity, what are all of you righteous heroes doing yourself about this situation? You all feel so strongly about it and attack anyone who isn’t fully committed to the destruction of Israel. So what are you actually all doing about it?
Or all you all just whining on an anonymous forum that makes zero difference to anything?
---------------------------------------------------------------------
You're just proving the point. Anyone that points out that Israel are the occupiers and created the conditions necessary for terrorist organisations like Hamas to exist with their apartheid system in Palestine, and highlight their gruesome human rights offences and contravention of international laws is "attacking anyone that isn't fully committed to the destruction of Israel".
Criticism of Israel acts as a trigger to you and you then automatically come out with these statements without even thinking and it seems you can't help yourself from doing it even when the facts are blatant.
What are YOU doing about Hamas and Israel's enemies apart from whining on an anonymous forum that makes zero difference to anything?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
As usual Mamba, you’re seeing what you want to see. Nothing I’ve posted suggests defence of anything Israel has done, but you continue with the rhetoric that I support their actions. It’s not criticism of Israel that prompts what I post, it’s the refusal to acknowledge the part of Iran, Hamas etc have played in the current events. The fact that you’re going back 80 years to justify what Hamas did a year ago is ridiculous. It’s one of the worst tactical and military decisions I can think of, knowingly sacrificing thousands of Palestinian lives, and to what end?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So Hamas' actions on Oct 7th led to knowingly sacrificing Palestinian lives. Where was the concern for Palestinian lives of those illegally imprisoned and abused or forced from their homes by settlers in the years/decades prior to Oct 7th?
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Justifying a wrong with a wrong. Nice one.
posted on 8/10/24
comment by Fred: Sign Someone!!!! (U3979)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 26 minutes ago
Fred do you use the both sides are Cuuuuntz in the Russian/Ukrainian war?
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When Russia took crimea, were Ukraine firing rockets and mortars into russia, targetting civillians? planning terrorists atks etc? Must have missed it if they were.
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No, they were cozying up to he west, planning to join NATO and other things that were as good or worse than firing rockets into Russia.
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What?!
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I knew Mamba was a bit mad, but this takes the biscuit
posted on 8/10/24
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 26 minutes ago
Fred do you use the both sides are Cuuuuntz in the Russian/Ukrainian war?
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When Russia took crimea, were Ukraine firing rockets and mortars into russia, targetting civillians? planning terrorists atks etc? Must have missed it if they were.
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No, they were cozying up to he west, planning to join NATO and other things that were as good or worse than firing rockets into Russia.
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fam, now you get it
posted on 8/10/24
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Fred: Sign Someone!!!! (U3979)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 26 minutes ago
Fred do you use the both sides are Cuuuuntz in the Russian/Ukrainian war?
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When Russia took crimea, were Ukraine firing rockets and mortars into russia, targetting civillians? planning terrorists atks etc? Must have missed it if they were.
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No, they were cozying up to he west, planning to join NATO and other things that were as good or worse than firing rockets into Russia.
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What?!
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I knew Mamba was a bit mad, but this takes the biscuit
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I was waiting for the punchline when I read it
posted on 8/10/24
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Fred: Sign Someone!!!! (U3979)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 26 minutes ago
Fred do you use the both sides are Cuuuuntz in the Russian/Ukrainian war?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
When Russia took crimea, were Ukraine firing rockets and mortars into russia, targetting civillians? planning terrorists atks etc? Must have missed it if they were.
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No, they were cozying up to he west, planning to join NATO and other things that were as good or worse than firing rockets into Russia.
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What?!
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I knew Mamba was a bit mad, but this takes the biscuit
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The fack is wrong with you two? Those are the reasons Russia has given for the war.
posted on 8/10/24
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 1 second ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 3 hours, 1 minute ago
Out of curiosity, what are all of you righteous heroes doing yourself about this situation? You all feel so strongly about it and attack anyone who isn’t fully committed to the destruction of Israel. So what are you actually all doing about it?
Or all you all just whining on an anonymous forum that makes zero difference to anything?
---------------------------------------------------------------------
You're just proving the point. Anyone that points out that Israel are the occupiers and created the conditions necessary for terrorist organisations like Hamas to exist with their apartheid system in Palestine, and highlight their gruesome human rights offences and contravention of international laws is "attacking anyone that isn't fully committed to the destruction of Israel".
Criticism of Israel acts as a trigger to you and you then automatically come out with these statements without even thinking and it seems you can't help yourself from doing it even when the facts are blatant.
What are YOU doing about Hamas and Israel's enemies apart from whining on an anonymous forum that makes zero difference to anything?
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As usual Mamba, you’re seeing what you want to see. Nothing I’ve posted suggests defence of anything Israel has done, but you continue with the rhetoric that I support their actions. It’s not criticism of Israel that prompts what I post, it’s the refusal to acknowledge the part of Iran, Hamas etc have played in the current events. The fact that you’re going back 80 years to justify what Hamas did a year ago is ridiculous. It’s one of the worst tactical and military decisions I can think of, knowingly sacrificing thousands of Palestinian lives, and to what end?
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So Hamas' actions on Oct 7th led to knowingly sacrificing Palestinian lives. Where was the concern for Palestinian lives of those illegally imprisoned and abused or forced from their homes by settlers in the years/decades prior to Oct 7th?
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Justifying a wrong with a wrong. Nice one.
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Erm no
Interesting your concern for the people of Palestine only extends to when Hamas are supposedly to blame and not when Israel is in the wrong according to international law.
posted on 8/10/24
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 3 hours, 1 minute ago
Out of curiosity, what are all of you righteous heroes doing yourself about this situation? You all feel so strongly about it and attack anyone who isn’t fully committed to the destruction of Israel. So what are you actually all doing about it?
Or all you all just whining on an anonymous forum that makes zero difference to anything?
---------------------------------------------------------------------
You're just proving the point. Anyone that points out that Israel are the occupiers and created the conditions necessary for terrorist organisations like Hamas to exist with their apartheid system in Palestine, and highlight their gruesome human rights offences and contravention of international laws is "attacking anyone that isn't fully committed to the destruction of Israel".
Criticism of Israel acts as a trigger to you and you then automatically come out with these statements without even thinking and it seems you can't help yourself from doing it even when the facts are blatant.
What are YOU doing about Hamas and Israel's enemies apart from whining on an anonymous forum that makes zero difference to anything?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
As usual Mamba, you’re seeing what you want to see. Nothing I’ve posted suggests defence of anything Israel has done, but you continue with the rhetoric that I support their actions. It’s not criticism of Israel that prompts what I post, it’s the refusal to acknowledge the part of Iran, Hamas etc have played in the current events. The fact that you’re going back 80 years to justify what Hamas did a year ago is ridiculous. It’s one of the worst tactical and military decisions I can think of, knowingly sacrificing thousands of Palestinian lives, and to what end?
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Making out like Hamas or any of Israel's enemies are the beginnings of this conflict like you tried to do is defending the actions of Israel. It is making a case for their occupation of Palestine, apartheid on the people and the current genocide.
The occupation and consequent trampling of human rights, which continues to this day, is the root cause and the biggest impediment to peace and stability in the region. What kind of knucklehead doesn't see that by now?
Historically, Israel could have easily kept to it's own borders and secured it's territory. Failing that, it could have also treated people who fell under it's control with human dignity and equality of all men, instead of running a class system based on religion/race and then acting surprised when the inevitable violent uprising occurs. All this while at the same time trying to build towards peaceful coexistence with it's neighbours.
Some of Israel's neighbours had already softened their stance massively over the decades and before this war, even building relations with Israel. There is no Hamas in West Bank and we see the same thing, so Hamas is clearly not the cause, but a reaction. The PLO is in the West Bank and they acknowledge Israel's right to exist and want to peacefully work towards peace. They are ignored by Israel while Palestinians are constantly being forcefully and violently displaced in favour of new Israeli settlements.
Over 10,000 people have been held without trial in the West Bank since Oct 7. Hundreds killed. There is no Hamas in the West Bank, only PLO, who have put down their arms and acknowledged Israel. I don't see how that has helped.
posted on 8/10/24
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Fred: Sign Someone!!!! (U3979)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 26 minutes ago
Fred do you use the both sides are Cuuuuntz in the Russian/Ukrainian war?
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When Russia took crimea, were Ukraine firing rockets and mortars into russia, targetting civillians? planning terrorists atks etc? Must have missed it if they were.
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No, they were cozying up to he west, planning to join NATO and other things that were as good or worse than firing rockets into Russia.
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What?!
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I knew Mamba was a bit mad, but this takes the biscuit
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The fack is wrong with you two? Those are the reasons Russia has given for the war.
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Ah sorry Mamba, my bad. Putin said it so that’s ok. Feck hell
posted on 8/10/24
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Out of curiosity, what are all of you righteous heroes doing yourself about this situation? You all feel so strongly about it and attack anyone who isn’t fully committed to the destruction of Israel. So what are you actually all doing about it?
Or all you all just whining on an anonymous forum that makes zero difference to anything?
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You're just proving the point. Anyone that points out that Israel are the occupiers and created the conditions necessary for terrorist organisations like Hamas to exist with their apartheid system in Palestine, and highlight their gruesome human rights offences and contravention of international laws is "attacking anyone that isn't fully committed to the destruction of Israel".
Criticism of Israel acts as a trigger to you and you then automatically come out with these statements without even thinking and it seems you can't help yourself from doing it even when the facts are blatant.
What are YOU doing about Hamas and Israel's enemies apart from whining on an anonymous forum that makes zero difference to anything?
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As usual Mamba, you’re seeing what you want to see. Nothing I’ve posted suggests defence of anything Israel has done, but you continue with the rhetoric that I support their actions. It’s not criticism of Israel that prompts what I post, it’s the refusal to acknowledge the part of Iran, Hamas etc have played in the current events. The fact that you’re going back 80 years to justify what Hamas did a year ago is ridiculous. It’s one of the worst tactical and military decisions I can think of, knowingly sacrificing thousands of Palestinian lives, and to what end?
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Who was talking of a Palestinian state on Oct 6th?
Israel was about to normalise with Saudi
The whole world wants an independent Palestinian state, we most not the Israeli regime though. It's in their charter that there will never be an independent Palestinian state
Hamas is still in charge of most of gaza. Israel has failed when looking at their stated goals of the war hence the Hezbollah attacks. Israel doesn't want peace. It wants greater Israel
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That’s fine, I wish that the Palestinians could have their own state and believe Israel should let them. However, that attack has done nothing to move that possibility any closer, has had the opposite effect if you’re willing to be honest.
If you think that the Hamas attack was worth the suffering inflicted on the Palestinians since then, then there’s nothing I could ever say that will change your view. But to me, it’s either action for actions sake, which rarely ends well or achieves the desired result, or even worse is the possibility that Hamas have been manipulated by Iran to trigger these events.
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I said Israel has to go and you called me a physcopath
Israel will NEVER agree to a 2 state solution. As I've pointed out numerous times. Its in their charter just like Hamas has destruction of Israel in their charter which you are quick to point out.
So the other option is a ONE state solution where equal rights to all Jews, Muslims and Christians (and atheists) now shall I tell you why Israel won't agree to this? Its because if it was a true democracy then the Jews would be a minority so they'll never accept this.
They don't want peace. The government needs regime change in order for peace. Cmon us/uk sort it out. Oh no you keep arming, funding and providing diplomatic support for them.
US needs to be ejected from UN using article 6 and the world would be a more peaceful place. They're yhe biggest war mongers on earth. Always at war since their creation
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