I don't think Muslims will ever like Jews, just because they're Jews and there is a lot of history there between the two.
What the actual fk is this?
So many ignorant people on here
Jews and Muslims lived in peace in Palestine before Iarael was created but as you can see above Muslims are the bad guys
Jews were chased out of European Christian countries which is why Israel and Zionism was created but no lets blame the Muslims
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 13 minutes ago
Israel is a racist colony
I pointed out that its backers were all colonising countries
Term calls me racist
He doesn't ever address anything I write just retorts to insults and tries to discredit what I say calling me racist
He believes every Israel says and peddles their propaganda
When I told him there was no command centres under the hospitals in gaza he wouldn't have any of it.
Been a dkhead ever since, ex military i believe so no doubt involved in the illegal genocidal wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Explains alot tbh
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You’re just a ranter, I don’t even think you know what you’re posting tbh.
Your last sentence sums you up perfectly. Just an ignorant fool who thinks everyone has to be on one side or the other. The worst kind out there.
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 3 minutes ago
I don't think Muslims will ever like Jews, just because they're Jews and there is a lot of history there between the two.
What the actual fk is this?
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Sorry, a generalist comment.
I should have been more specific.
I haven't come across any Muslim in my life so far that has a good thing to say about the Jews in power.
Even the average Jew that is just getting on with their life, there is always a dig or two towards them, despite that person being just like any other person.
I'm basing this on people I have come across, not every Muslim on the planet.
I spent a lot of time in the UAE, and those priicks don't seem to give a fack about Palestine.
Look I've studied this topic for years and yes I have issues when people say there's both sides like they're even comparable.
I know most of you are good guys but I'm afraid you're ignorant of the truth if you put up this argument.
Im very passionate about justice and deep down I know the truth will eventually come out.
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 6 minutes ago
Look I've studied this topic for years and yes I have issues when people say there's both sides like they're even comparable.
I know most of you are good guys but I'm afraid you're ignorant of the truth if you put up this argument.
Im very passionate about justice and deep down I know the truth will eventually come out.
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So will you admit that even if it’s not balanced that there is a share of fault on both sides?
comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴 (U1192)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 3 minutes ago
I don't think Muslims will ever like Jews, just because they're Jews and there is a lot of history there between the two.
What the actual fk is this?
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Sorry, a generalist comment.
I should have been more specific.
I haven't come across any Muslim in my life so far that has a good thing to say about the Jews in power.
Even the average Jew that is just getting on with their life, there is always a dig or two towards them, despite that person being just like any other person.
I'm basing this on people I have come across, not every Muslim on the planet.
I spent a lot of time in the UAE, and those priicks don't seem to give a fack about Palestine.
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That's a huge misconception. I used to live in Prestwich which has a high Jewish and Muslim population. These are Orthodox Jews and we all got on. Both my neighbours were Jewish. You are just making things up.
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posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴 (U1192)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 3 minutes ago
I don't think Muslims will ever like Jews, just because they're Jews and there is a lot of history there between the two.
What the actual fk is this?
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Sorry, a generalist comment.
I should have been more specific.
I haven't come across any Muslim in my life so far that has a good thing to say about the Jews in power.
Even the average Jew that is just getting on with their life, there is always a dig or two towards them, despite that person being just like any other person.
I'm basing this on people I have come across, not every Muslim on the planet.
I spent a lot of time in the UAE, and those priicks don't seem to give a fack about Palestine.
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That's a huge misconception. I used to live in Prestwich which has a high Jewish and Muslim population. These are Orthodox Jews and we all got on. Both my neighbours were Jewish. You are just making things up.
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To be fair Kash I struggle to see you getting on with anybody regardless of race
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posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 6 minutes ago
Look I've studied this topic for years and yes I have issues when people say there's both sides like they're even comparable.
I know most of you are good guys but I'm afraid you're ignorant of the truth if you put up this argument.
Im very passionate about justice and deep down I know the truth will eventually come out.
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So will you admit that even if it’s not balanced that there is a share of fault on both sides?
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What will that achieve, i suppose you want me to condemn, ok Hamas shouldn't have killed ANY innocent civilians on Oct 7th.
You have to look at the root cause of everything. The creation of Israel, the nakba. The execution of Rabin
The sad thing is, Israel don't attack Hamas or Hezbollah. They're hiding underground as we all know. Israel therefore operates the Dahiya protocol killing civilians.
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posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴 (U1192)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 3 minutes ago
I don't think Muslims will ever like Jews, just because they're Jews and there is a lot of history there between the two.
What the actual fk is this?
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Sorry, a generalist comment.
I should have been more specific.
I haven't come across any Muslim in my life so far that has a good thing to say about the Jews in power.
Even the average Jew that is just getting on with their life, there is always a dig or two towards them, despite that person being just like any other person.
I'm basing this on people I have come across, not every Muslim on the planet.
I spent a lot of time in the UAE, and those priicks don't seem to give a fack about Palestine.
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That's a huge misconception. I used to live in Prestwich which has a high Jewish and Muslim population. These are Orthodox Jews and we all got on. Both my neighbours were Jewish. You are just making things up.
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This is why I usually don't bother with these articles on a football forum, cba with them.
Why would I make it up? Wife's side of family are Pakistani Muslims. Maybe the Pakistanis have different views towards them compared to wherever you're from.
They have a "family friend" plumber who's Jewish, and literally every single time he is brought up there is a comment about him being Jewish. Maybe it's meant for comedic effect and not actually an insult but with the goings on with the world today it's difficult to tell.
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posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 6 minutes ago
Look I've studied this topic for years and yes I have issues when people say there's both sides like they're even comparable.
I know most of you are good guys but I'm afraid you're ignorant of the truth if you put up this argument.
Im very passionate about justice and deep down I know the truth will eventually come out.
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So will you admit that even if it’s not balanced that there is a share of fault on both sides?
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From what I've seen and read, the degree to which people accept fault on both sides depends on how they're looking at this conflict.
Those that see the last 12 months as the latest chapter in a 100 year story struggle with the idea of joint responsibility because of the huge imbalance of reprehensible actions.
Those that see this conflict as stand alone or as a result of immediate actions are much more inclined to the 'fault both sides' point of view.
To be fair Kash I struggle to see you getting on with anybody regardless of race
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Was gonna say similar. Both neighbours WERE Jewish. Seems a bit sus to me that both Jewish neighbours would up and leave.
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Fred: Sign Someone!!!! (U3979)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 6 minutes ago
Look I've studied this topic for years and yes I have issues when people say there's both sides like they're even comparable.
I know most of you are good guys but I'm afraid you're ignorant of the truth if you put up this argument.
Im very passionate about justice and deep down I know the truth will eventually come out.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So will you admit that even if it’s not balanced that there is a share of fault on both sides?
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What will that achieve, i suppose you want me to condemn, ok Hamas shouldn't have killed ANY innocent civilians on Oct 7th.
You have to look at the root cause of everything. The creation of Israel, the nakba. The execution of Rabin
The sad thing is, Israel don't attack Hamas or Hezbollah. They're hiding underground as we all know. Israel therefore operates the Dahiya protocol killing civilians.
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Yeah and the thing is I don’t think you’ll find anybody willing to condone Israel’s indiscriminate murder of civilians in Gaza and now Lebanon and see it as anything other than abhorrent.
But then I find the cowardice of Hamas and Hezbollah hiding behind civilians despicable also.
And I find the cowardice of Iran funding proxy wars with Israel and Saudi also appalling.
I also think the U.S. / UK etc need to back off as well, not sure why we should be steadfastly supporting Israel the way we are at the moment but I’m sure somebody can educate me as to why (without resorting to conspiracy theories).
Which is why I say there are cvnts all on sides even if right now what Israel are doing is what we should be focusing on.
I don't believe Hamas and Hezbollah hide behind civilians. I believe they hide underground
Go and fight them is what I say but one side is willing to fight and die for the cause and the other prefers to bomb from the air. Hmmm who are the actual cowards? Fight them and kill them all. Stop killing civilians ffs
The world wouldn't stand by if another country did this to any European country, it just wouldn't happen and we all know it
also think the U.S. / UK etc need to back off as well, not sure why we should be steadfastly supporting Israel the way we are at the moment but I’m sure somebody can educate me as to why (without resorting to conspiracy theories)
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Educated guess but there are agreements going back decades between the west and Israel.
I always see them as the wests "baby" that has come into power and now they're proud of them, how far they have come, how much of a superpower they are now.
Tech giant, etc.
Weird take but the governments are so fackkng corrupt I wouldn't be surprised.
Fred do you use the both sides are Cuuuuntz in the Russian/Ukrainian war?
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posted 7 minutes ago
Yeah and the thing is I don’t think you’ll find anybody willing to condone Israel’s indiscriminate murder of civilians in Gaza and now Lebanon and see it as anything other than abhorrent.
But then I find the cowardice of Hamas and Hezbollah hiding behind civilians despicable also.
And I find the cowardice of Iran funding proxy wars with Israel and Saudi also appalling.
I also think the U.S. / UK etc need to back off as well, not sure why we should be steadfastly supporting Israel the way we are at the moment but I’m sure somebody can educate me as to why (without resorting to conspiracy theories).
Which is why I say there are cvnts all on sides even if right now what Israel are doing is what we should be focusing on.
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Correct me if I'm mistaken, but weren't you the one saying earlier on this thread that you'd sleep very peacefully after murdering the entire family of someone who'd murdered your child?
comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴 (U1192)
posted 11 minutes ago
To be fair Kash I struggle to see you getting on with anybody regardless of race
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Was gonna say similar. Both neighbours WERE Jewish. Seems a bit sus to me that both Jewish neighbours would up and leave.
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I don't get this?
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posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Fred: Sign Someone!!!! (U3979)
posted 7 minutes ago
Yeah and the thing is I don’t think you’ll find anybody willing to condone Israel’s indiscriminate murder of civilians in Gaza and now Lebanon and see it as anything other than abhorrent.
But then I find the cowardice of Hamas and Hezbollah hiding behind civilians despicable also.
And I find the cowardice of Iran funding proxy wars with Israel and Saudi also appalling.
I also think the U.S. / UK etc need to back off as well, not sure why we should be steadfastly supporting Israel the way we are at the moment but I’m sure somebody can educate me as to why (without resorting to conspiracy theories).
Which is why I say there are cvnts all on sides even if right now what Israel are doing is what we should be focusing on.
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Correct me if I'm mistaken, but weren't you the one saying earlier on this thread that you'd sleep very peacefully after murdering the entire family of someone who'd murdered your child?
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Unfortunately for Fred this is actually the Zionist pov
comment by (K̇ash) - Welcome to Mo Trafford - Free Pales... (U1108)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴 (U1192)
posted 11 minutes ago
To be fair Kash I struggle to see you getting on with anybody regardless of race
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Was gonna say similar. Both neighbours WERE Jewish. Seems a bit sus to me that both Jewish neighbours would up and leave.
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I don't get this?
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Both your neighbours were Jewish but they left because you're a caaaant.
It was meant to be a joke, but now the joke has passed.
comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴 (U1192)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by (K̇ash) - Welcome to Mo Trafford - Free Pales... (U1108)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴 (U1192)
posted 11 minutes ago
To be fair Kash I struggle to see you getting on with anybody regardless of race
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Was gonna say similar. Both neighbours WERE Jewish. Seems a bit sus to me that both Jewish neighbours would up and leave.
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I don't get this?
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Both your neighbours were Jewish but they left because you're a caaaant.
It was meant to be a joke, but now the joke has passed.
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Lol sorry mate.
There was no land grabbing going on that's for sure.
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 4 minutes ago
I don't believe Hamas and Hezbollah hide behind civilians. I believe they hide underground
Go and fight them is what I say but one side is willing to fight and die for the cause and the other prefers to bomb from the air. Hmmm who are the actual cowards? Fight them and kill them all. Stop killing civilians ffs
The world wouldn't stand by if another country did this to any European country, it just wouldn't happen and we all know it
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How do you think Hamas would fight if they had the same resources as Israel? Would they refuse to use their planes because it would be cowardly? Don’t be daft.
And you’re contradicting yourself. You say Hamas are willing to fight and die for the cause, then acknowledge they’re hiding underground. They carried out a smash and grab raid and then went into hiding, with full knowledge of how Israel would retaliate. And you think us white westerners are the ones falling for propaganda? Hamas have abandoned the Palestinian people and done nothing but left them to the mercy of the Israeli bombs.
I don't think Muslims will ever like Jews, just because they're Jews and there is a lot of history there between the two.
Jews and Muslims lived together for thousands of years in the Middle East including in Palestine, that is absolute crap. It’s the formation of Israel and the rise of Zionism which has destabilised everything.
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Fred: Sign Someone!!!! (U3979)
posted 7 minutes ago
Yeah and the thing is I don’t think you’ll find anybody willing to condone Israel’s indiscriminate murder of civilians in Gaza and now Lebanon and see it as anything other than abhorrent.
But then I find the cowardice of Hamas and Hezbollah hiding behind civilians despicable also.
And I find the cowardice of Iran funding proxy wars with Israel and Saudi also appalling.
I also think the U.S. / UK etc need to back off as well, not sure why we should be steadfastly supporting Israel the way we are at the moment but I’m sure somebody can educate me as to why (without resorting to conspiracy theories).
Which is why I say there are cvnts all on sides even if right now what Israel are doing is what we should be focusing on.
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Correct me if I'm mistaken, but weren't you the one saying earlier on this thread that you'd sleep very peacefully after murdering the entire family of someone who'd murdered your child?
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Unfortunately for Fred this is actually the Zionist pov
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Except it’s not just a Zionist thing, is it? It applies every time innocent people are killed because of the actions of others. Innocent Germans died in air raids in WW2, innocent Americans on 9/11, and believe it or not, innocent Israelis during the Hamas attack. The list is endless.
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posted 53 seconds ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 4 minutes ago
I don't believe Hamas and Hezbollah hide behind civilians. I believe they hide underground
Go and fight them is what I say but one side is willing to fight and die for the cause and the other prefers to bomb from the air. Hmmm who are the actual cowards? Fight them and kill them all. Stop killing civilians ffs
The world wouldn't stand by if another country did this to any European country, it just wouldn't happen and we all know it
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How do you think Hamas would fight if they had the same resources as Israel? Would they refuse to use their planes because it would be cowardly? Don’t be daft.
And you’re contradicting yourself. You say Hamas are willing to fight and die for the cause, then acknowledge they’re hiding underground. They carried out a smash and grab raid and then went into hiding, with full knowledge of how Israel would retaliate. And you think us white westerners are the ones falling for propaganda? Hamas have abandoned the Palestinian people and done nothing but left them to the mercy of the Israeli bombs.
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They carried out a smash and grab raid and then went into hiding, with full knowledge of how Israel would retaliate
You keep saying this, almost like you're justifying the genocide. I don't think anyone would have predicted full impunity from war crimes after war crimes. UN being useless and ICC doing nothing but a verbal telling off.
As for your other point about hiding underground. Lets look at it from a military perspective. Gaza is the most densely populates area on earth. Fact
Israel has air dominance and better air supremacy than most countries in the world.
Israel is happy to kill 100 civilians to 1 "terrorist" ratio.
They wouldn't exist if they didn't go underground, its not fkin rocket science
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posted on 8/10/24
I don't think Muslims will ever like Jews, just because they're Jews and there is a lot of history there between the two.
What the actual fk is this?
posted on 8/10/24
So many ignorant people on here
Jews and Muslims lived in peace in Palestine before Iarael was created but as you can see above Muslims are the bad guys
Jews were chased out of European Christian countries which is why Israel and Zionism was created but no lets blame the Muslims
posted on 8/10/24
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 13 minutes ago
Israel is a racist colony
I pointed out that its backers were all colonising countries
Term calls me racist
He doesn't ever address anything I write just retorts to insults and tries to discredit what I say calling me racist
He believes every Israel says and peddles their propaganda
When I told him there was no command centres under the hospitals in gaza he wouldn't have any of it.
Been a dkhead ever since, ex military i believe so no doubt involved in the illegal genocidal wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Explains alot tbh
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You’re just a ranter, I don’t even think you know what you’re posting tbh.
Your last sentence sums you up perfectly. Just an ignorant fool who thinks everyone has to be on one side or the other. The worst kind out there.
posted on 8/10/24
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 3 minutes ago
I don't think Muslims will ever like Jews, just because they're Jews and there is a lot of history there between the two.
What the actual fk is this?
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Sorry, a generalist comment.
I should have been more specific.
I haven't come across any Muslim in my life so far that has a good thing to say about the Jews in power.
Even the average Jew that is just getting on with their life, there is always a dig or two towards them, despite that person being just like any other person.
I'm basing this on people I have come across, not every Muslim on the planet.
I spent a lot of time in the UAE, and those priicks don't seem to give a fack about Palestine.
posted on 8/10/24
Look I've studied this topic for years and yes I have issues when people say there's both sides like they're even comparable.
I know most of you are good guys but I'm afraid you're ignorant of the truth if you put up this argument.
Im very passionate about justice and deep down I know the truth will eventually come out.
posted on 8/10/24
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 6 minutes ago
Look I've studied this topic for years and yes I have issues when people say there's both sides like they're even comparable.
I know most of you are good guys but I'm afraid you're ignorant of the truth if you put up this argument.
Im very passionate about justice and deep down I know the truth will eventually come out.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So will you admit that even if it’s not balanced that there is a share of fault on both sides?
posted on 8/10/24
comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴 (U1192)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 3 minutes ago
I don't think Muslims will ever like Jews, just because they're Jews and there is a lot of history there between the two.
What the actual fk is this?
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Sorry, a generalist comment.
I should have been more specific.
I haven't come across any Muslim in my life so far that has a good thing to say about the Jews in power.
Even the average Jew that is just getting on with their life, there is always a dig or two towards them, despite that person being just like any other person.
I'm basing this on people I have come across, not every Muslim on the planet.
I spent a lot of time in the UAE, and those priicks don't seem to give a fack about Palestine.
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That's a huge misconception. I used to live in Prestwich which has a high Jewish and Muslim population. These are Orthodox Jews and we all got on. Both my neighbours were Jewish. You are just making things up.
posted on 8/10/24
comment by (K̇ash) - Welcome to Mo Trafford - Free Palestine 🇵🇸 (U1108)
posted 20 seconds ago
comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴 (U1192)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 3 minutes ago
I don't think Muslims will ever like Jews, just because they're Jews and there is a lot of history there between the two.
What the actual fk is this?
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Sorry, a generalist comment.
I should have been more specific.
I haven't come across any Muslim in my life so far that has a good thing to say about the Jews in power.
Even the average Jew that is just getting on with their life, there is always a dig or two towards them, despite that person being just like any other person.
I'm basing this on people I have come across, not every Muslim on the planet.
I spent a lot of time in the UAE, and those priicks don't seem to give a fack about Palestine.
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That's a huge misconception. I used to live in Prestwich which has a high Jewish and Muslim population. These are Orthodox Jews and we all got on. Both my neighbours were Jewish. You are just making things up.
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To be fair Kash I struggle to see you getting on with anybody regardless of race
posted on 8/10/24
comment by Fred: Sign Someone!!!! (U3979)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 6 minutes ago
Look I've studied this topic for years and yes I have issues when people say there's both sides like they're even comparable.
I know most of you are good guys but I'm afraid you're ignorant of the truth if you put up this argument.
Im very passionate about justice and deep down I know the truth will eventually come out.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So will you admit that even if it’s not balanced that there is a share of fault on both sides?
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What will that achieve, i suppose you want me to condemn, ok Hamas shouldn't have killed ANY innocent civilians on Oct 7th.
You have to look at the root cause of everything. The creation of Israel, the nakba. The execution of Rabin
The sad thing is, Israel don't attack Hamas or Hezbollah. They're hiding underground as we all know. Israel therefore operates the Dahiya protocol killing civilians.
posted on 8/10/24
comment by (K̇ash) - Welcome to Mo Trafford - Free Pales... (U1108)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴 (U1192)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 3 minutes ago
I don't think Muslims will ever like Jews, just because they're Jews and there is a lot of history there between the two.
What the actual fk is this?
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Sorry, a generalist comment.
I should have been more specific.
I haven't come across any Muslim in my life so far that has a good thing to say about the Jews in power.
Even the average Jew that is just getting on with their life, there is always a dig or two towards them, despite that person being just like any other person.
I'm basing this on people I have come across, not every Muslim on the planet.
I spent a lot of time in the UAE, and those priicks don't seem to give a fack about Palestine.
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That's a huge misconception. I used to live in Prestwich which has a high Jewish and Muslim population. These are Orthodox Jews and we all got on. Both my neighbours were Jewish. You are just making things up.
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This is why I usually don't bother with these articles on a football forum, cba with them.
Why would I make it up? Wife's side of family are Pakistani Muslims. Maybe the Pakistanis have different views towards them compared to wherever you're from.
They have a "family friend" plumber who's Jewish, and literally every single time he is brought up there is a comment about him being Jewish. Maybe it's meant for comedic effect and not actually an insult but with the goings on with the world today it's difficult to tell.
posted on 8/10/24
comment by Fred: Sign Someone!!!! (U3979)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 6 minutes ago
Look I've studied this topic for years and yes I have issues when people say there's both sides like they're even comparable.
I know most of you are good guys but I'm afraid you're ignorant of the truth if you put up this argument.
Im very passionate about justice and deep down I know the truth will eventually come out.
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So will you admit that even if it’s not balanced that there is a share of fault on both sides?
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From what I've seen and read, the degree to which people accept fault on both sides depends on how they're looking at this conflict.
Those that see the last 12 months as the latest chapter in a 100 year story struggle with the idea of joint responsibility because of the huge imbalance of reprehensible actions.
Those that see this conflict as stand alone or as a result of immediate actions are much more inclined to the 'fault both sides' point of view.
posted on 8/10/24
To be fair Kash I struggle to see you getting on with anybody regardless of race
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Was gonna say similar. Both neighbours WERE Jewish. Seems a bit sus to me that both Jewish neighbours would up and leave.
posted on 8/10/24
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Fred: Sign Someone!!!! (U3979)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 6 minutes ago
Look I've studied this topic for years and yes I have issues when people say there's both sides like they're even comparable.
I know most of you are good guys but I'm afraid you're ignorant of the truth if you put up this argument.
Im very passionate about justice and deep down I know the truth will eventually come out.
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So will you admit that even if it’s not balanced that there is a share of fault on both sides?
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What will that achieve, i suppose you want me to condemn, ok Hamas shouldn't have killed ANY innocent civilians on Oct 7th.
You have to look at the root cause of everything. The creation of Israel, the nakba. The execution of Rabin
The sad thing is, Israel don't attack Hamas or Hezbollah. They're hiding underground as we all know. Israel therefore operates the Dahiya protocol killing civilians.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah and the thing is I don’t think you’ll find anybody willing to condone Israel’s indiscriminate murder of civilians in Gaza and now Lebanon and see it as anything other than abhorrent.
But then I find the cowardice of Hamas and Hezbollah hiding behind civilians despicable also.
And I find the cowardice of Iran funding proxy wars with Israel and Saudi also appalling.
I also think the U.S. / UK etc need to back off as well, not sure why we should be steadfastly supporting Israel the way we are at the moment but I’m sure somebody can educate me as to why (without resorting to conspiracy theories).
Which is why I say there are cvnts all on sides even if right now what Israel are doing is what we should be focusing on.
posted on 8/10/24
I don't believe Hamas and Hezbollah hide behind civilians. I believe they hide underground
Go and fight them is what I say but one side is willing to fight and die for the cause and the other prefers to bomb from the air. Hmmm who are the actual cowards? Fight them and kill them all. Stop killing civilians ffs
The world wouldn't stand by if another country did this to any European country, it just wouldn't happen and we all know it
posted on 8/10/24
also think the U.S. / UK etc need to back off as well, not sure why we should be steadfastly supporting Israel the way we are at the moment but I’m sure somebody can educate me as to why (without resorting to conspiracy theories)
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Educated guess but there are agreements going back decades between the west and Israel.
I always see them as the wests "baby" that has come into power and now they're proud of them, how far they have come, how much of a superpower they are now.
Tech giant, etc.
Weird take but the governments are so fackkng corrupt I wouldn't be surprised.
posted on 8/10/24
Fred do you use the both sides are Cuuuuntz in the Russian/Ukrainian war?
posted on 8/10/24
comment by Fred: Sign Someone!!!! (U3979)
posted 7 minutes ago
Yeah and the thing is I don’t think you’ll find anybody willing to condone Israel’s indiscriminate murder of civilians in Gaza and now Lebanon and see it as anything other than abhorrent.
But then I find the cowardice of Hamas and Hezbollah hiding behind civilians despicable also.
And I find the cowardice of Iran funding proxy wars with Israel and Saudi also appalling.
I also think the U.S. / UK etc need to back off as well, not sure why we should be steadfastly supporting Israel the way we are at the moment but I’m sure somebody can educate me as to why (without resorting to conspiracy theories).
Which is why I say there are cvnts all on sides even if right now what Israel are doing is what we should be focusing on.
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Correct me if I'm mistaken, but weren't you the one saying earlier on this thread that you'd sleep very peacefully after murdering the entire family of someone who'd murdered your child?
posted on 8/10/24
comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴 (U1192)
posted 11 minutes ago
To be fair Kash I struggle to see you getting on with anybody regardless of race
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Was gonna say similar. Both neighbours WERE Jewish. Seems a bit sus to me that both Jewish neighbours would up and leave.
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I don't get this?
posted on 8/10/24
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Fred: Sign Someone!!!! (U3979)
posted 7 minutes ago
Yeah and the thing is I don’t think you’ll find anybody willing to condone Israel’s indiscriminate murder of civilians in Gaza and now Lebanon and see it as anything other than abhorrent.
But then I find the cowardice of Hamas and Hezbollah hiding behind civilians despicable also.
And I find the cowardice of Iran funding proxy wars with Israel and Saudi also appalling.
I also think the U.S. / UK etc need to back off as well, not sure why we should be steadfastly supporting Israel the way we are at the moment but I’m sure somebody can educate me as to why (without resorting to conspiracy theories).
Which is why I say there are cvnts all on sides even if right now what Israel are doing is what we should be focusing on.
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Correct me if I'm mistaken, but weren't you the one saying earlier on this thread that you'd sleep very peacefully after murdering the entire family of someone who'd murdered your child?
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Unfortunately for Fred this is actually the Zionist pov
posted on 8/10/24
comment by (K̇ash) - Welcome to Mo Trafford - Free Pales... (U1108)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴 (U1192)
posted 11 minutes ago
To be fair Kash I struggle to see you getting on with anybody regardless of race
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Was gonna say similar. Both neighbours WERE Jewish. Seems a bit sus to me that both Jewish neighbours would up and leave.
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I don't get this?
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Both your neighbours were Jewish but they left because you're a caaaant.
It was meant to be a joke, but now the joke has passed.
posted on 8/10/24
comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴 (U1192)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by (K̇ash) - Welcome to Mo Trafford - Free Pales... (U1108)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Ali - 🇪🇦 🏴 (U1192)
posted 11 minutes ago
To be fair Kash I struggle to see you getting on with anybody regardless of race
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Was gonna say similar. Both neighbours WERE Jewish. Seems a bit sus to me that both Jewish neighbours would up and leave.
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I don't get this?
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Both your neighbours were Jewish but they left because you're a caaaant.
It was meant to be a joke, but now the joke has passed.
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Lol sorry mate.
There was no land grabbing going on that's for sure.
posted on 8/10/24
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 4 minutes ago
I don't believe Hamas and Hezbollah hide behind civilians. I believe they hide underground
Go and fight them is what I say but one side is willing to fight and die for the cause and the other prefers to bomb from the air. Hmmm who are the actual cowards? Fight them and kill them all. Stop killing civilians ffs
The world wouldn't stand by if another country did this to any European country, it just wouldn't happen and we all know it
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How do you think Hamas would fight if they had the same resources as Israel? Would they refuse to use their planes because it would be cowardly? Don’t be daft.
And you’re contradicting yourself. You say Hamas are willing to fight and die for the cause, then acknowledge they’re hiding underground. They carried out a smash and grab raid and then went into hiding, with full knowledge of how Israel would retaliate. And you think us white westerners are the ones falling for propaganda? Hamas have abandoned the Palestinian people and done nothing but left them to the mercy of the Israeli bombs.
posted on 8/10/24
I don't think Muslims will ever like Jews, just because they're Jews and there is a lot of history there between the two.
Jews and Muslims lived together for thousands of years in the Middle East including in Palestine, that is absolute crap. It’s the formation of Israel and the rise of Zionism which has destabilised everything.
posted on 8/10/24
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Fred: Sign Someone!!!! (U3979)
posted 7 minutes ago
Yeah and the thing is I don’t think you’ll find anybody willing to condone Israel’s indiscriminate murder of civilians in Gaza and now Lebanon and see it as anything other than abhorrent.
But then I find the cowardice of Hamas and Hezbollah hiding behind civilians despicable also.
And I find the cowardice of Iran funding proxy wars with Israel and Saudi also appalling.
I also think the U.S. / UK etc need to back off as well, not sure why we should be steadfastly supporting Israel the way we are at the moment but I’m sure somebody can educate me as to why (without resorting to conspiracy theories).
Which is why I say there are cvnts all on sides even if right now what Israel are doing is what we should be focusing on.
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Correct me if I'm mistaken, but weren't you the one saying earlier on this thread that you'd sleep very peacefully after murdering the entire family of someone who'd murdered your child?
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Unfortunately for Fred this is actually the Zionist pov
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Except it’s not just a Zionist thing, is it? It applies every time innocent people are killed because of the actions of others. Innocent Germans died in air raids in WW2, innocent Americans on 9/11, and believe it or not, innocent Israelis during the Hamas attack. The list is endless.
posted on 8/10/24
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 4 minutes ago
I don't believe Hamas and Hezbollah hide behind civilians. I believe they hide underground
Go and fight them is what I say but one side is willing to fight and die for the cause and the other prefers to bomb from the air. Hmmm who are the actual cowards? Fight them and kill them all. Stop killing civilians ffs
The world wouldn't stand by if another country did this to any European country, it just wouldn't happen and we all know it
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How do you think Hamas would fight if they had the same resources as Israel? Would they refuse to use their planes because it would be cowardly? Don’t be daft.
And you’re contradicting yourself. You say Hamas are willing to fight and die for the cause, then acknowledge they’re hiding underground. They carried out a smash and grab raid and then went into hiding, with full knowledge of how Israel would retaliate. And you think us white westerners are the ones falling for propaganda? Hamas have abandoned the Palestinian people and done nothing but left them to the mercy of the Israeli bombs.
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They carried out a smash and grab raid and then went into hiding, with full knowledge of how Israel would retaliate
You keep saying this, almost like you're justifying the genocide. I don't think anyone would have predicted full impunity from war crimes after war crimes. UN being useless and ICC doing nothing but a verbal telling off.
As for your other point about hiding underground. Lets look at it from a military perspective. Gaza is the most densely populates area on earth. Fact
Israel has air dominance and better air supremacy than most countries in the world.
Israel is happy to kill 100 civilians to 1 "terrorist" ratio.
They wouldn't exist if they didn't go underground, its not fkin rocket science
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