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Yeh, the UK should, not gonna happen though while we still tolerate royalty.
Figures being circulated suggest reparations being sought is in the region of 200bn pounds.
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A segment on BBC Politics Live today suggested in the tens of trillions rather than billions!
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 4 seconds ago
No.
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Why not?
Just give an apology on behalf of the evil people that lived long before any of us now were born. Maybe chuck in some books for educational purposes.
Tell them we'll pay soon as Italy coughs for the Romans and Scandinavia for the Vikings plus when we are in budget surplus. Not happening.
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 2 minutes ago
Tell them we'll pay soon as Italy coughs for the Romans and Scandinavia for the Vikings plus when we are in budget surplus. Not happening.
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This whataboutery always comes up when this subject is bought up...
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 2 minutes ago
Tell them we'll pay soon as Italy coughs for the Romans and Scandinavia for the Vikings plus when we are in budget surplus. Not happening.
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This whataboutery always comes up when this subject is bought up...
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Maybe there's a good reason for that
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 2 minutes ago
Tell them we'll pay soon as Italy coughs for the Romans and Scandinavia for the Vikings plus when we are in budget surplus. Not happening.
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This whataboutery always comes up when this subject is bought up...
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Maybe there's a good reason for that
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And England to us lot... settle out of court for their tv rights deal
Just to be clear, when the reparations are paid will those affected go back to their ancestorial homeland?
The topic of reparations for slavery is complex and highly emotive, making it difficult to determine who should benefit, descendants of enslaved individuals or the countries from which they were taken.
After the UK abolished the slave trade in 1807 and slavery itself in 1834, the government compensated slave owners with £20 million, which was about 40% of its annual budget at the time. This was designed to stabilise a sector of the economy. This compensation came from taxpayers, and the debt wasn't fully repaid until 2015. Consequently, both the descendants of enslaved people and modern taxpayers effectively contributed to the wealth of those who profited from slavery.
Cities like Bristol and Liverpool became wealthy largely due to the slave trade, leading to the argument that Britain owes a debt not just to the descendants of enslaved individuals, but also to the taxpayers whose funds were used to enrich slave owners.
should the people of Rome pay reparations to all the nations that the Romans took slaves from?
should the Africans who caught & then sold other Africans for the transatlantic slave trade pay reparations?
should the Arabs pay reparations to all the African countries they took slaves from?
Where does it stop?
Why is it only European nations that are having to answer these questions ?
Britain owes a debt not just to the descendants of enslaved individuals, but also to the taxpayers whose funds were used to enrich slave owners.
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Great, give us a payment... just put tax up to pay for it...
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 4 minutes ago
Just to be clear, when the reparations are paid will those affected go back to their ancestorial homeland?
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No
There are estimated to be between 38,000,000 and 50,000,000 enslaved people today.
The transatlantic slave trade was around 12,000,000.
I’d rather focus on today than something that we made illegal two hundred years ago and pioneered enforcing this globally, all while paying a higher price for imports that weren’t involved in slave labour.
Why are the African countries not asked to pay reparations? They are the ones that kidnapped and rounded up their fellow peoples and sold them to the Europeans, the Dutch, the Portuguese, the British and Middle East.
Who does it get paid to? What about mixed race peoples? Do they get half?
Do us Europeans get counter-reparations from the likes of Tripoli, Turkey, Algiers and Morocco for the Barbary pirates who took over 1,000,000 Europeans into the slave trade.
Slavery is a disgusting practice that was ubiquitous and throughout human history. Slave comes from Slav where
Many Eastern Europeans (to use a modern phrase) who put into slavery by Islamic Spain a millennia ago. The romans, the Egyptians all had slaves. Britain was the first global power (and fully dominant power too) to make it illegal and take measures well beyond that to try to end the abhorrent practice globally.
Sadly this disgusting practice is still taking place today but all everyone wants to focus on is the US-imported debate which seems to think that the world didn’t exist before 1776 and that there isn’t anywhere else in existence other than the United States.
We dealt with slavery 200 years ago.
Should the descendants of the Aztecs pay reparations to the other Native America tribes they enslaved & used for human sacrifices ?
Should Mongolia pay reparations to a large part of Asia & Eastern Europe
Will foreign aid also stop once reparations are paid? Ghana has been taking billions from the UK over the years.
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 19 minutes ago
Tell them we'll pay soon as Italy coughs for the Romans and Scandinavia for the Vikings plus when we are in budget surplus. Not happening.
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u wot
we shud take ur roads away n ur runnin water ffs
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 minutes ago
No
There are estimated to be between 38,000,000 and 50,000,000 enslaved people today.
The transatlantic slave trade was around 12,000,000.
I’d rather focus on today than something that we made illegal two hundred years ago and pioneered enforcing this globally, all while paying a higher price for imports that weren’t involved in slave labour.
Why are the African countries not asked to pay reparations? They are the ones that kidnapped and rounded up their fellow peoples and sold them to the Europeans, the Dutch, the Portuguese, the British and Middle East.
Who does it get paid to? What about mixed race peoples? Do they get half?
Do us Europeans get counter-reparations from the likes of Tripoli, Turkey, Algiers and Morocco for the Barbary pirates who took over 1,000,000 Europeans into the slave trade.
Slavery is a disgusting practice that was ubiquitous and throughout human history. Slave comes from Slav where
Many Eastern Europeans (to use a modern phrase) who put into slavery by Islamic Spain a millennia ago. The romans, the Egyptians all had slaves. Britain was the first global power (and fully dominant power too) to make it illegal and take measures well beyond that to try to end the abhorrent practice globally.
Sadly this disgusting practice is still taking place today but all everyone wants to focus on is the US-imported debate which seems to think that the world didn’t exist before 1776 and that there isn’t anywhere else in existence other than the United States.
We dealt with slavery 200 years ago.
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this
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 21 seconds ago
Will foreign aid also stop once reparations are paid? Ghana has been taking billions from the UK over the years.
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exactly
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 7 minutes ago
Just to be clear, when the reparations are paid will those affected go back to their ancestorial homeland?
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Did Jewish people go 'back' to their ancestorial homeland after they received reparations?
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 39 seconds ago
Britain owes a debt not just to the descendants of enslaved individuals, but also to the taxpayers whose funds were used to enrich slave owners.
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Great, give us a payment... just put tax up to pay for it...
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It's an interesting take, I guess. Taxpayers were victims vicariously as our ancestors were beneficiaries of the trade through the actions of the state.
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posted on 22/10/24
Comment deleted by Article Creator
posted on 22/10/24
Yeh, the UK should, not gonna happen though while we still tolerate royalty.
posted on 22/10/24
Figures being circulated suggest reparations being sought is in the region of 200bn pounds.
--
A segment on BBC Politics Live today suggested in the tens of trillions rather than billions!
posted on 22/10/24
No.
posted on 22/10/24
Yes
posted on 22/10/24
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 4 seconds ago
No.
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Why not?
posted on 22/10/24
Just give an apology on behalf of the evil people that lived long before any of us now were born. Maybe chuck in some books for educational purposes.
posted on 22/10/24
Tell them we'll pay soon as Italy coughs for the Romans and Scandinavia for the Vikings plus when we are in budget surplus. Not happening.
posted on 22/10/24
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 2 minutes ago
Tell them we'll pay soon as Italy coughs for the Romans and Scandinavia for the Vikings plus when we are in budget surplus. Not happening.
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This whataboutery always comes up when this subject is bought up...
posted on 22/10/24
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 2 minutes ago
Tell them we'll pay soon as Italy coughs for the Romans and Scandinavia for the Vikings plus when we are in budget surplus. Not happening.
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This whataboutery always comes up when this subject is bought up...
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Maybe there's a good reason for that
posted on 22/10/24
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 2 minutes ago
Tell them we'll pay soon as Italy coughs for the Romans and Scandinavia for the Vikings plus when we are in budget surplus. Not happening.
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This whataboutery always comes up when this subject is bought up...
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Maybe there's a good reason for that
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And England to us lot... settle out of court for their tv rights deal
posted on 22/10/24
Just to be clear, when the reparations are paid will those affected go back to their ancestorial homeland?
posted on 22/10/24
The topic of reparations for slavery is complex and highly emotive, making it difficult to determine who should benefit, descendants of enslaved individuals or the countries from which they were taken.
After the UK abolished the slave trade in 1807 and slavery itself in 1834, the government compensated slave owners with £20 million, which was about 40% of its annual budget at the time. This was designed to stabilise a sector of the economy. This compensation came from taxpayers, and the debt wasn't fully repaid until 2015. Consequently, both the descendants of enslaved people and modern taxpayers effectively contributed to the wealth of those who profited from slavery.
Cities like Bristol and Liverpool became wealthy largely due to the slave trade, leading to the argument that Britain owes a debt not just to the descendants of enslaved individuals, but also to the taxpayers whose funds were used to enrich slave owners.
posted on 22/10/24
should the people of Rome pay reparations to all the nations that the Romans took slaves from?
should the Africans who caught & then sold other Africans for the transatlantic slave trade pay reparations?
should the Arabs pay reparations to all the African countries they took slaves from?
Where does it stop?
Why is it only European nations that are having to answer these questions ?
posted on 22/10/24
Britain owes a debt not just to the descendants of enslaved individuals, but also to the taxpayers whose funds were used to enrich slave owners.
=========
Great, give us a payment... just put tax up to pay for it...
posted on 22/10/24
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 4 minutes ago
Just to be clear, when the reparations are paid will those affected go back to their ancestorial homeland?
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posted on 22/10/24
No
There are estimated to be between 38,000,000 and 50,000,000 enslaved people today.
The transatlantic slave trade was around 12,000,000.
I’d rather focus on today than something that we made illegal two hundred years ago and pioneered enforcing this globally, all while paying a higher price for imports that weren’t involved in slave labour.
Why are the African countries not asked to pay reparations? They are the ones that kidnapped and rounded up their fellow peoples and sold them to the Europeans, the Dutch, the Portuguese, the British and Middle East.
Who does it get paid to? What about mixed race peoples? Do they get half?
Do us Europeans get counter-reparations from the likes of Tripoli, Turkey, Algiers and Morocco for the Barbary pirates who took over 1,000,000 Europeans into the slave trade.
Slavery is a disgusting practice that was ubiquitous and throughout human history. Slave comes from Slav where
Many Eastern Europeans (to use a modern phrase) who put into slavery by Islamic Spain a millennia ago. The romans, the Egyptians all had slaves. Britain was the first global power (and fully dominant power too) to make it illegal and take measures well beyond that to try to end the abhorrent practice globally.
Sadly this disgusting practice is still taking place today but all everyone wants to focus on is the US-imported debate which seems to think that the world didn’t exist before 1776 and that there isn’t anywhere else in existence other than the United States.
We dealt with slavery 200 years ago.
posted on 22/10/24
Should the descendants of the Aztecs pay reparations to the other Native America tribes they enslaved & used for human sacrifices ?
posted on 22/10/24
Should Mongolia pay reparations to a large part of Asia & Eastern Europe
posted on 22/10/24
Will foreign aid also stop once reparations are paid? Ghana has been taking billions from the UK over the years.
posted on 22/10/24
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 19 minutes ago
Tell them we'll pay soon as Italy coughs for the Romans and Scandinavia for the Vikings plus when we are in budget surplus. Not happening.
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u wot
we shud take ur roads away n ur runnin water ffs
posted on 22/10/24
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 minutes ago
No
There are estimated to be between 38,000,000 and 50,000,000 enslaved people today.
The transatlantic slave trade was around 12,000,000.
I’d rather focus on today than something that we made illegal two hundred years ago and pioneered enforcing this globally, all while paying a higher price for imports that weren’t involved in slave labour.
Why are the African countries not asked to pay reparations? They are the ones that kidnapped and rounded up their fellow peoples and sold them to the Europeans, the Dutch, the Portuguese, the British and Middle East.
Who does it get paid to? What about mixed race peoples? Do they get half?
Do us Europeans get counter-reparations from the likes of Tripoli, Turkey, Algiers and Morocco for the Barbary pirates who took over 1,000,000 Europeans into the slave trade.
Slavery is a disgusting practice that was ubiquitous and throughout human history. Slave comes from Slav where
Many Eastern Europeans (to use a modern phrase) who put into slavery by Islamic Spain a millennia ago. The romans, the Egyptians all had slaves. Britain was the first global power (and fully dominant power too) to make it illegal and take measures well beyond that to try to end the abhorrent practice globally.
Sadly this disgusting practice is still taking place today but all everyone wants to focus on is the US-imported debate which seems to think that the world didn’t exist before 1776 and that there isn’t anywhere else in existence other than the United States.
We dealt with slavery 200 years ago.
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this
posted on 22/10/24
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 21 seconds ago
Will foreign aid also stop once reparations are paid? Ghana has been taking billions from the UK over the years.
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exactly
posted on 22/10/24
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 7 minutes ago
Just to be clear, when the reparations are paid will those affected go back to their ancestorial homeland?
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Did Jewish people go 'back' to their ancestorial homeland after they received reparations?
posted on 22/10/24
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 39 seconds ago
Britain owes a debt not just to the descendants of enslaved individuals, but also to the taxpayers whose funds were used to enrich slave owners.
=========
Great, give us a payment... just put tax up to pay for it...
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's an interesting take, I guess. Taxpayers were victims vicariously as our ancestors were beneficiaries of the trade through the actions of the state.
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