time travelling brits wow

comment by ai'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 38 minutes ago
Btw, I'm a bit disappointed, Daz. I thought my shirt sales comment was worth at least a passing recognition.
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Acknowledged.

comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 17 minutes ago
time travelling brits wow
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I shouldn't have to givea penny of tue wealth I inherited back to the people my parents stole it from.

Brought to you by the same people as

Fack the poor so long as you lower my taxes

Whoda thunk

comment by ai'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 52 minutes ago
comment by Joshua The King Of Kings Zirkzee (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
Germany are an interesting case by Western standards because of the Naaaazis, but even they’ll still be reluctant to give up their wealth as reparations.
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They're an interesring case in many regards. One of the most interesting arguments is that the Naazi atrocities weren't so much an exception but a consequence of the European (and American) settler colonial projects. Ironically, Israel can be seen in the same light.
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Yeah that’s true. I would argue they were an exception due to the unique nature of the regime, but that it came about as a consequence of the colonial project.

But what I mean about Germany being an interesting case is that when it comes to bringing up the sins of the past, they tend to get away with it on a global stage in way that Britain and America don’t.

It’s actually weird how many have managed to turn Germany into a victim when they are attacked for the Naazis. Just look at the reactions of some to the football songs the English sing about them. And these same people will try and lecture the British on colonialism.

I remember reading in some history paper somewhere that the original "brown shirts" were actually a surplus from the Southwest African Schutztruppe ("protection troops", they were already good at euphemisms back then).

Hermann Goring's father was actually the first Governor of German South West Africa.

They had extermination camps in SWA too, Shark Island being the most famous.

In reality they imitated what Kitchener had done with Boers and Black South Africans a handful of years earlier (which was in turn copied from the Spanish 'campos de reconcentración' in Cuba). The Germans went a step further by conducting human experimentation there too, and forced prisoners to boil dead prisoners down so that the bare bones could be sent back to Germany for anthropological studies.

Just in case people think this was before the Romans invaden Britain, this was actually 20th century.

Yeah I know about the inspiration from South Africa, but I think the ideology behind the whole genocide is very distinct from what came before it.

Much in the same way that slavery wasn’t a new phenomena when Africans started being shipped to America, but the scale of the displacement and the scientific racism that came to underpin it very much was.

comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 1 hour, 53 minutes ago
time travelling brits wow
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You have obviously never walked into a house in Liverpool or Manchester before, 1980s every time.

comment by Joshua The King Of Kings Zirkzee (U10026)
posted 18 hours, 17 minutes ago
Yeah I know about the inspiration from South Africa, but I think the ideology behind the whole genocide is very distinct from what came before it.

Much in the same way that slavery wasn’t a new phenomena when Africans started being shipped to America, but the scale of the displacement and the scientific racism that came to underpin it very much was.
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I see where you're coming from, but it wasn't completely different either. Genocides were being committed in colonial times, only they were on much smaller populations, and perhaps not as systematic. The huge shock to the system with the Naazis was arguably that this was European-on-European genocide.

Nevertheless, a large part of the thinking behind the Naazi project dated from the colonial times. Specifically, the key ideology of 'lebensraum' ('living space' - i.e. the need for expansion and colonisation of new lands, which was to come at the expense of the Slavs, who they viewed as an inferior race just as much as the Jews and others. It's true of all races other than the Aryans, but they had a special contempt for what they viewed as the Slavic race.

And those racial views were based on the same 19th century precepts whereby the notion of racial superiority provided the justification for colonisation and for the eradication of the so-perceived inferior races.

In the mid-19th century, the Anthropological Society of London even propounded the idea that the extermination of 'inferior races' was an act of mercy, since to their ability to adapt to 'civilisation' meant they were destined to die out anyway, and accelerating this process for them was merely putting them out of their misery.

You'll notice that this isn't a far cry from the compassion for special needs, hunter gatherer peoples that are destined to die out due to their incapability to adapt to Western civilisation. They would probably also have seen the logic in taking their daughters and helping them to 'breed up'.