comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 1 minute ago
VVD deserved a straight red card for a foul on Havertz. Then he wouldnt have scored.
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I know you would come back to me.
Since when is elbowing allowed?
Desperate from Liverpool fans if anything. Literally on here lying about handballs
I am talking about the incident in the first half.
comment by T-BAD (U11806)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by T-BAD (U11806)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by T-BAD (U11806)
posted 1 minute ago
Honestly if that's a foul by Kiwior then football is kinda depressing. He didn't push him out the way or anything he just jumped over him.
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Looks like the Liverpool man made a back for Kiwior. Kiwior just got up high enough to win the ball. What is particularly worrying is the ref yet it go until we were in on goal, seems like he wanted to take all possibilities out of it. Never a handball, btw, high on the shoulder.
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Kiwior jumped into Szoboszlai with his hole into his back ffs. It's a clear foul. Nope nowhere near the shoulder. Upper arm but low enough fot handball, for me.
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Fair enough, I disagree but it is what it is. I think most teams would be annoyed with that being disallowed
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Well I mean the freekick was way back, for me our goalkeeper knew already it was a freekick as he saw the whistle and didn't go fully into it. But yeah we can agree to disagree on it.
I'm surprised that the penalty shout isn't being talked about as whilst I haven't see it again, it looked a penalty but instead people are focusing on a clear foul and a handball, which lead to a goal AFTER the whistle had gone.
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I thought it was a pen, I have no idea about the position of the fk - I do think if you're worrying about that then you need to look at yourself first though.
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What i mean is the referee had already blew for the freekick but Arsenal played on, challenged for the ball in the air, which for me was handball from Havertz, got it to the back post, hit the post, then tapped it in, all after the whistle had already gone, that's what I mean about it being so far back. It was already a freekick before any of that happened.
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 5 seconds ago
I am talking about the incident in the first half.
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Have you a video of this assault as we must be talking about different incidents, surely?
I don't think it was a freekick to begin with and I thought it was strange the ref blew it, but it defo affected the play after.
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 5 seconds ago
I am talking about the incident in the first half.
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Have you a video of this assault as we must be talking about different incidents, surely?
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Wait a minute
comment by T-BAD (U11806)
posted 3 minutes ago
There's no shame in admitting you got a decision your way. I dunno why you're so insecure about it?
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I'm happy to admit to that and have done for the penalty, although I did state i only saw the one replay and didn't hear why it wasn't given. However I'm not going to admit to something absolutely ridiculous when there is a foul, the whistle went for a foul, Arsenal played on, handled the ball, shot and hit the post and then shot again, all after the whistle. Who in their right mind would admit to that going their way?
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 5 seconds ago
I am talking about the incident in the first half.
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Have you a video of this assault as we must be talking about different incidents, surely?
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Wait a minute
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https://x.com/AFCAMDEN/status/1850615931472359507
Okay it was not elbow but kicked Havertz twice. How is that not a red card?
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by T-BAD (U11806)
posted 3 minutes ago
There's no shame in admitting you got a decision your way. I dunno why you're so insecure about it?
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I'm happy to admit to that and have done for the penalty, although I did state i only saw the one replay and didn't hear why it wasn't given. However I'm not going to admit to something absolutely ridiculous when there is a foul, the whistle went for a foul, Arsenal played on, handled the ball, shot and hit the post and then shot again, all after the whistle. Who in their right mind would admit to that going their way?
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I don't think the first foul was a foul, so it's contentious. Haven't seen the handball, have asked for clips but haven't been sent any
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 5 seconds ago
I am talking about the incident in the first half.
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Have you a video of this assault as we must be talking about different incidents, surely?
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Wait a minute
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https://x.com/AFCAMDEN/status/1850615931472359507
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Yes so no elbow and hit him with his backside. You're seeing an elbow and kickouts here? Really?
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 1 minute ago
Van Dijk elbowed Havertz. It´s a red card.
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comment by T-BAD (U11806)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by T-BAD (U11806)
posted 3 minutes ago
There's no shame in admitting you got a decision your way. I dunno why you're so insecure about it?
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I'm happy to admit to that and have done for the penalty, although I did state i only saw the one replay and didn't hear why it wasn't given. However I'm not going to admit to something absolutely ridiculous when there is a foul, the whistle went for a foul, Arsenal played on, handled the ball, shot and hit the post and then shot again, all after the whistle. Who in their right mind would admit to that going their way?
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I don't think the first foul was a foul, so it's contentious. Haven't seen the handball, have asked for clips but haven't been sent any
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I couldn't find it, I rewinded back to it earlier when checking the foul again.
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 5 seconds ago
I am talking about the incident in the first half.
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Have you a video of this assault as we must be talking about different incidents, surely?
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Wait a minute
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https://x.com/AFCAMDEN/status/1850615931472359507
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Yes so no elbow and hit him with his backside. You're seeing an elbow and kickouts here? Really?
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Twice he hit Havertz with his feet
This is a violent conduct. I am sure if that is Saliba he would have gone.
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 5 seconds ago
I am talking about the incident in the first half.
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Have you a video of this assault as we must be talking about different incidents, surely?
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Wait a minute
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https://x.com/AFCAMDEN/status/1850615931472359507
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Yes so no elbow and hit him with his backside. You're seeing an elbow and kickouts here? Really?
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Although I could accept perhaps a yellow given, a red is ridiculous.
Yes so no elbow and hit him with his backside
Strange backside he has.
So what law is used for the red then GT, as struggling to see a red here? Violent conduct? Surely not?
Yellow would have been fair
I rest my case here. You can see what VVD did with your eyes.
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 5 seconds ago
I am talking about the incident in the first half.
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Have you a video of this assault as we must be talking about different incidents, surely?
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Wait a minute
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https://x.com/AFCAMDEN/status/1850615931472359507
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Yes so no elbow and hit him with his backside. You're seeing an elbow and kickouts here? Really?
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Twice he hit Havertz with his feet
This is a violent conduct. I am sure if that is Saliba he would have gone.
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Record sales of tin foil in north London I see.
Ok so you think the video satisfies below?
Violent conduct is when a player uses or attempts to use excessive force or brutality against an opponent when not challenging for the ball, or against a team-mate, team official, match official, spectator or any other person, regardless of whether contact is made.
In addition, a player who, when not challenging for the ball, deliberately strikes an opponent or any other person on the head or face with the hand or arm, is guilty of violent conduct unless the force used was negligible.
So VVD is allowed to kick players. Okay got this.
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posted on 27/10/24
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 1 minute ago
VVD deserved a straight red card for a foul on Havertz. Then he wouldnt have scored.
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I know you would come back to me.
Since when is elbowing allowed?
posted on 27/10/24
Desperate from Liverpool fans if anything. Literally on here lying about handballs
posted on 27/10/24
I am talking about the incident in the first half.
posted on 27/10/24
comment by T-BAD (U11806)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by T-BAD (U11806)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by T-BAD (U11806)
posted 1 minute ago
Honestly if that's a foul by Kiwior then football is kinda depressing. He didn't push him out the way or anything he just jumped over him.
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Looks like the Liverpool man made a back for Kiwior. Kiwior just got up high enough to win the ball. What is particularly worrying is the ref yet it go until we were in on goal, seems like he wanted to take all possibilities out of it. Never a handball, btw, high on the shoulder.
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Kiwior jumped into Szoboszlai with his hole into his back ffs. It's a clear foul. Nope nowhere near the shoulder. Upper arm but low enough fot handball, for me.
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Fair enough, I disagree but it is what it is. I think most teams would be annoyed with that being disallowed
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Well I mean the freekick was way back, for me our goalkeeper knew already it was a freekick as he saw the whistle and didn't go fully into it. But yeah we can agree to disagree on it.
I'm surprised that the penalty shout isn't being talked about as whilst I haven't see it again, it looked a penalty but instead people are focusing on a clear foul and a handball, which lead to a goal AFTER the whistle had gone.
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I thought it was a pen, I have no idea about the position of the fk - I do think if you're worrying about that then you need to look at yourself first though.
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What i mean is the referee had already blew for the freekick but Arsenal played on, challenged for the ball in the air, which for me was handball from Havertz, got it to the back post, hit the post, then tapped it in, all after the whistle had already gone, that's what I mean about it being so far back. It was already a freekick before any of that happened.
posted on 27/10/24
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 5 seconds ago
I am talking about the incident in the first half.
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Have you a video of this assault as we must be talking about different incidents, surely?
posted on 27/10/24
I don't think it was a freekick to begin with and I thought it was strange the ref blew it, but it defo affected the play after.
posted on 27/10/24
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 5 seconds ago
I am talking about the incident in the first half.
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Have you a video of this assault as we must be talking about different incidents, surely?
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Wait a minute
posted on 27/10/24
comment by T-BAD (U11806)
posted 3 minutes ago
There's no shame in admitting you got a decision your way. I dunno why you're so insecure about it?
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I'm happy to admit to that and have done for the penalty, although I did state i only saw the one replay and didn't hear why it wasn't given. However I'm not going to admit to something absolutely ridiculous when there is a foul, the whistle went for a foul, Arsenal played on, handled the ball, shot and hit the post and then shot again, all after the whistle. Who in their right mind would admit to that going their way?
posted on 27/10/24
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 5 seconds ago
I am talking about the incident in the first half.
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Have you a video of this assault as we must be talking about different incidents, surely?
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Wait a minute
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https://x.com/AFCAMDEN/status/1850615931472359507
posted on 27/10/24
Blood of Jesus
posted on 27/10/24
Desperate loool
posted on 27/10/24
Okay it was not elbow but kicked Havertz twice. How is that not a red card?
posted on 27/10/24
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by T-BAD (U11806)
posted 3 minutes ago
There's no shame in admitting you got a decision your way. I dunno why you're so insecure about it?
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I'm happy to admit to that and have done for the penalty, although I did state i only saw the one replay and didn't hear why it wasn't given. However I'm not going to admit to something absolutely ridiculous when there is a foul, the whistle went for a foul, Arsenal played on, handled the ball, shot and hit the post and then shot again, all after the whistle. Who in their right mind would admit to that going their way?
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I don't think the first foul was a foul, so it's contentious. Haven't seen the handball, have asked for clips but haven't been sent any
posted on 27/10/24
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 5 seconds ago
I am talking about the incident in the first half.
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Have you a video of this assault as we must be talking about different incidents, surely?
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Wait a minute
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https://x.com/AFCAMDEN/status/1850615931472359507
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Yes so no elbow and hit him with his backside. You're seeing an elbow and kickouts here? Really?
posted on 27/10/24
comment by Salah Time. (U23032)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 1 minute ago
Van Dijk elbowed Havertz. It´s a red card.
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posted on 27/10/24
comment by T-BAD (U11806)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by T-BAD (U11806)
posted 3 minutes ago
There's no shame in admitting you got a decision your way. I dunno why you're so insecure about it?
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I'm happy to admit to that and have done for the penalty, although I did state i only saw the one replay and didn't hear why it wasn't given. However I'm not going to admit to something absolutely ridiculous when there is a foul, the whistle went for a foul, Arsenal played on, handled the ball, shot and hit the post and then shot again, all after the whistle. Who in their right mind would admit to that going their way?
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I don't think the first foul was a foul, so it's contentious. Haven't seen the handball, have asked for clips but haven't been sent any
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I couldn't find it, I rewinded back to it earlier when checking the foul again.
posted on 27/10/24
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 5 seconds ago
I am talking about the incident in the first half.
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Have you a video of this assault as we must be talking about different incidents, surely?
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Wait a minute
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https://x.com/AFCAMDEN/status/1850615931472359507
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Yes so no elbow and hit him with his backside. You're seeing an elbow and kickouts here? Really?
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Twice he hit Havertz with his feet
This is a violent conduct. I am sure if that is Saliba he would have gone.
posted on 27/10/24
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 5 seconds ago
I am talking about the incident in the first half.
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Have you a video of this assault as we must be talking about different incidents, surely?
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Wait a minute
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https://x.com/AFCAMDEN/status/1850615931472359507
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Yes so no elbow and hit him with his backside. You're seeing an elbow and kickouts here? Really?
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Although I could accept perhaps a yellow given, a red is ridiculous.
posted on 27/10/24
Yes so no elbow and hit him with his backside
Strange backside he has.
posted on 27/10/24
So what law is used for the red then GT, as struggling to see a red here? Violent conduct? Surely not?
posted on 27/10/24
Yellow would have been fair
posted on 27/10/24
I rest my case here. You can see what VVD did with your eyes.
posted on 27/10/24
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 5 seconds ago
I am talking about the incident in the first half.
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Have you a video of this assault as we must be talking about different incidents, surely?
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Wait a minute
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https://x.com/AFCAMDEN/status/1850615931472359507
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Yes so no elbow and hit him with his backside. You're seeing an elbow and kickouts here? Really?
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Twice he hit Havertz with his feet
This is a violent conduct. I am sure if that is Saliba he would have gone.
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Record sales of tin foil in north London I see.
posted on 27/10/24
Ok so you think the video satisfies below?
Violent conduct is when a player uses or attempts to use excessive force or brutality against an opponent when not challenging for the ball, or against a team-mate, team official, match official, spectator or any other person, regardless of whether contact is made.
In addition, a player who, when not challenging for the ball, deliberately strikes an opponent or any other person on the head or face with the hand or arm, is guilty of violent conduct unless the force used was negligible.
posted on 27/10/24
So VVD is allowed to kick players. Okay got this.
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