comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 minute ago
Willing to give Amorim plenty of time in terms of results but I do want to see an improvement in style reasonably quickly. Other manager have made huge changes at clubs without signing their own players.
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When they shift to a style which is completely removed from the one the squad is used and suited to, *and* where there are very obvious and huge gaps in the squad (literally zero wingbacks, which are absolutely key to the setup, and a dearth of inside forwards)?
*If* he decides to try to replicate what he’s doing at Sporting, I think we’ll see a pretty clear style of play emerge fairly quickly…. and it’ll bomb hard until he gets his (several and various) signings, because we just don’t have close to the players to make it work right now.
That’s what I mean about patience. We aren’t going to fly up the league. Will people accept that and give him - and the system - time, understanding that this is going to be a huge and difficult transition?
comment by It’s time for some Lancashire hotPote, R... (U17054)
posted 3 minutes ago
*If* he decides to try to replicate what he’s doing at Sporting, I think we’ll see a pretty clear style of play emerge fairly quickly…. and it’ll bomb hard until he gets his (several and various) signings, because we just don’t have close to the players to make it work right now.
That’s what I mean about patience. We aren’t going to fly up the league. Will people accept that and give him - and the system - time, understanding that this is going to be a huge and difficult transition?
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I expect he's going to have to do it with the players he has. It won't be perfect, and there'll be stumbles dare I say disasters along the way. But as long as we can see a system, a style of play, with players being developed for that system then that's fine.
Genuine question, do you think anyone at LFC thought they had the players to adopt Klopp's gengenpress and turnover of the ball and high intensity football before he arrived? They hadn't won anything in 5 years yet you could see the transformation in style in his first season even though he didn't get them back into the top 4 for two years.
I’m easily pleased, show me work rate, and I’m happy. To achieve that, fitness and conditioning are key, this has been an area of concern for a number of years. Ashworth should carefully assess each player from now until the next window, conduct a thorough gap analysis, and target players who will enable Amorim to implement his preferred formation and tactics. Reshaping the squad won’t happen in one window, we always knew it would take three to four windows before nearing completion. The managerial change was a setback, but I’m confident Ashworth is, or should be, on course.
One surprise was targeting a coach who predominantly favours a three at the back system, something I’ve never seen in my lifetime at Utd. I’m open to this change if it brings results, after all, we’ve tried nearly everything else with little success!
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 1 hour, 43 minutes ago
comment by It’s time for some Lancashire hotPote, Ruben (U17054)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
Probably deserves an article, rather than just a comment to explain, but Amorim is going to need…
TIME.
A lot of time.
He’s going to change the coaching staff. He’s going to change the way in which we play - completely - and the standards demanded of the players physically and mentally. He’s going to tear up what these players have been used to tactically and start again. And he’s going to need a lot of new players to get his system working.
Anyone expecting a revolution within a month or two of him coming in should switch off now to avoid disappointment.
As Vengeance has said, we’re talking 24 months before we can expect to see something like Amorim will have in mind for us.
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He won’t get that at Manchester United.
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He's already getting pelters from the British press for speaking in Portuguese at his CL press conference today.
'Disrespecting your British fans' was the accusation I believe.
comment by The Process
posted 36 minutes ago
Willing to give Amorim plenty of time in terms of results but I do want to see an improvement in style reasonably quickly. Other manager have made huge changes at clubs without signing their own players.
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Unlike other clubs, we had the Glazers as owners, prioritising profit over sporting success, we endured over a decade of financial wastefulness under Woodward, Murtough, and Arnold. As a result, we ended up with a squad lacking the quality that even our rivals weren’t interested in competing for.
Liverpool, by contrast, built a solid squad and then strengthened the team’s core. Under Klopp they achieved steady, incremental progress before finally winning the league, and they've remained competitive since. Klopp’s legacy is clear, with Slot now inheriting a squad capable of mounting a serious title challenge.
We had the finances, just not the best in class sporting leadership team, until now!
Disrespecting your British fans' was the accusation I believe.
--
Barf, this can’t be true, surely? Who’s made that accusation?!
comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 1 hour, 43 minutes ago
comment by It’s time for some Lancashire hotPote, Ruben (U17054)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
Probably deserves an article, rather than just a comment to explain, but Amorim is going to need…
TIME.
A lot of time.
He’s going to change the coaching staff. He’s going to change the way in which we play - completely - and the standards demanded of the players physically and mentally. He’s going to tear up what these players have been used to tactically and start again. And he’s going to need a lot of new players to get his system working.
Anyone expecting a revolution within a month or two of him coming in should switch off now to avoid disappointment.
As Vengeance has said, we’re talking 24 months before we can expect to see something like Amorim will have in mind for us.
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He won’t get that at Manchester United.
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He's already getting pelters from the British press for speaking in Portuguese at his CL press conference today.
'Disrespecting your British fans' was the accusation I believe.
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Amazing
Absolute facking cants. My god, there’s so much I don’t miss about facking Britain.
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 3 minutes ago
Disrespecting your British fans' was the accusation I believe.
--
Barf, this can’t be true, surely? Who’s made that accusation?!
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I've seen a couple of questions from the PC from english journalists (Simon Stone I think was one) and he answered their questions in Portuguese - this is pretty standard for a PC in Portugal when the club is Portuguese and the manager is Portuguese.
Heard a bit from the Monday Night Club Podcast on BBC. Might have misheard as I was doing something else earlier but I'm pretty sure this is what they reported the reaction was from the press.
Monday Night Club is on now and I've checked back to what was said and I was right, the british press have had a go at him for not replying in English and sticking to the format and answering all questions in Portuguese.
When in Lisbon do as the Lisbians do, as they say in Rome.
comment by Barf Vader
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 3 minutes ago
Disrespecting your British fans' was the accusation I believe.
--
Barf, this can’t be true, surely? Who’s made that accusation?!
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I've seen a couple of questions from the PC from english journalists (Simon Stone I think was one) and he answered their questions in Portuguese - this is pretty standard for a PC in Portugal when the club is Portuguese and the manager is Portuguese.
Heard a bit from the Monday Night Club Podcast on BBC. Might have misheard as I was doing something else earlier but I'm pretty sure this is what they reported the reaction was from the press.
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I find some journalists at the BBC, especially those covering Utd, rather frustrating. Simon Stone and Phil McNulty seem to stand out for me, as their style gives a sense of bias against Utd, it's often sensationalised claptrap , designed to drive traffic to the BBC website. Compared to our European counterparts, who are often multilingual, UK journalists do come across as somewhat narrow minded at times. The tendency for certain UK journalists to portray a sense of superiority, while lacking the same language skills, shows a type of snobbery that everyone despises.
comment by Vengeance
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
comment by Barf Vader
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 3 minutes ago
Disrespecting your British fans' was the accusation I believe.
--
Barf, this can’t be true, surely? Who’s made that accusation?!
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I've seen a couple of questions from the PC from english journalists (Simon Stone I think was one) and he answered their questions in Portuguese - this is pretty standard for a PC in Portugal when the club is Portuguese and the manager is Portuguese.
Heard a bit from the Monday Night Club Podcast on BBC. Might have misheard as I was doing something else earlier but I'm pretty sure this is what they reported the reaction was from the press.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I find some journalists at the BBC, especially those covering Utd, rather frustrating. Simon Stone and Phil McNulty seem to stand out for me, as their style gives a sense of bias against Utd, it's often sensationalised claptrap , designed to drive traffic to the BBC website. Compared to our European counterparts, who are often multilingual, UK journalists do come across as somewhat narrow minded at times. The tendency for certain UK journalists to portray a sense of superiority, while lacking the same language skills, shows a type of snobbery that everyone despises.
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Complete press conference, featuring a disrespectful and arrogant questioner, likely Gary Cotterill from Sky Sports (at 21:48). What a pig!
https://youtu.be/BC8MQE73Rowsi=QYcATDQ2j7RpCvz_
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 8 hours, 42 minutes ago
I don't think the players are toxic. I think it's a lazy excuse that the media continue to throw out. For starters ETH signed 14 players whilst our manager so half this squad were his own players. He also made Bruno his captain, brought through Mainoo and Rashford was his star man for a good while.
We just have a lot of poor players. When you get recruitment this wrong for over a decade this is the end result. It's simple math. If you buy a load of players that were never good enough to start with or just flop badly then you become a crap team.
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First comment sums it up well. Let’s see what the new board can do with a year at the club and a summer window.
This summer was underwhelming, I have hope for Ugarte but worry for De Ligt and Zirkzee, seem another pair who won’t propel us anywhere near where we need to be. Let’s hope Yoro is the player he’s hyped up to be.
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
comment by Barf Vader
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 3 minutes ago
Disrespecting your British fans' was the accusation I believe.
--
Barf, this can’t be true, surely? Who’s made that accusation?!
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I've seen a couple of questions from the PC from english journalists (Simon Stone I think was one) and he answered their questions in Portuguese - this is pretty standard for a PC in Portugal when the club is Portuguese and the manager is Portuguese.
Heard a bit from the Monday Night Club Podcast on BBC. Might have misheard as I was doing something else earlier but I'm pretty sure this is what they reported the reaction was from the press.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I find some journalists at the BBC, especially those covering Utd, rather frustrating. Simon Stone and Phil McNulty seem to stand out for me, as their style gives a sense of bias against Utd, it's often sensationalised claptrap , designed to drive traffic to the BBC website. Compared to our European counterparts, who are often multilingual, UK journalists do come across as somewhat narrow minded at times. The tendency for certain UK journalists to portray a sense of superiority, while lacking the same language skills, shows a type of snobbery that everyone despises.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Complete press conference, featuring a disrespectful and arrogant questioner, likely Gary Cotterill from Sky Sports (at 21:48). What a pig!
https://youtu.be/BC8MQE73Rowsi=QYcATDQ2j7RpCvz_
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There can only ever be 1 manager from Portugal in Gary Cotterill's eyes. The man is in love with Mourinho.
There can only ever be 1 manager from Portugal in Gary Cotterill's eyes. The man is in love with Mourinho.
…..
More than Robbsie and Wahl?
"It's like a cold shoulder to your English fans"
Cotterill the warrior is the self-appointed representative of United fans over here.
The question he put as well, which he wanted an answer in English to was, if you beat City tomorrow do you realise you'll be a hero to United fans before you even arrive at the club? Ffs.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 33 minutes ago
There can only ever be 1 manager from Portugal in Gary Cotterill's eyes. The man is in love with Mourinho.
…..
More than Robbsie and Wahl?
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Absolutely. Although he could be Wahl I suppose.
https://x.com/gary_cotterill?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
comment by Busby
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 8 hours, 42 minutes ago
I don't think the players are toxic. I think it's a lazy excuse that the media continue to throw out. For starters ETH signed 14 players whilst our manager so half this squad were his own players. He also made Bruno his captain, brought through Mainoo and Rashford was his star man for a good while.
We just have a lot of poor players. When you get recruitment this wrong for over a decade this is the end result. It's simple math. If you buy a load of players that were never good enough to start with or just flop badly then you become a crap team.
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First comment sums it up well. Let’s see what the new board can do with a year at the club and a summer window.
This summer was underwhelming, I have hope for Ugarte but worry for De Ligt and Zirkzee, seem another pair who won’t propel us anywhere near where we need to be. Let’s hope Yoro is the player he’s hyped up to be.
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Looking back, was this transfer window that underwhelming, or did you feel like this at the time? Initially, most people saw it as a solid beginning for the new sporting team. None of the players were finished articles and although most came at a cost, they arrived with high promise, some, like De Ligt, came with question marks and his patchy form shows why. Despite this, almost all may end up making some contribution, only time will tell. Zirkzee, however, appears unsettled, our current form isn’t helping any of the new players. At the moment, only Mazraoui can confidently hold his head up high.
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posted 19 hours, 45 minutes ago
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comment by Playmaker (U22780)
posted 11 seconds ago
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posted 30 seconds ago
I don't believe the fans were hurling abuse as they came out the tunnel. For the first 20 mins the crowd was right behind them.
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defo did, was surprised to hear this too, new manager etc....
he said it was so toxic near that tunnel
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Think I saw Britney Spears if that helps.
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sigh,
Somebody comes on and posts in peace, informing you of something that happened at your game, and you make it a toxic time.....
well there you go, I guess
anyone wishing to discuss this sensibly, let me know
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I was there. Didn't hear it. <w@nkhor>
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kin el mate, why the aggression? - my pal was there and he heard it, what more can I say.
came on here nothing but polite, pointing out a toxic culture at clubs is often the fans, it was at Leeds to.. get called a boat load of names..
kind of proves my point in a way, returing my politness with a name calling and a refusal to accept something I've heard, could of / should of made for a decent debate.
the toxicity on this thread alone proves my point. oh well
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 day, 10 hours ago
Willing to give Amorim plenty of time in terms of results but I do want to see an improvement in style reasonably quickly. Other manager have made huge changes at clubs without signing their own players.
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posted on 4/11/24
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 minute ago
Willing to give Amorim plenty of time in terms of results but I do want to see an improvement in style reasonably quickly. Other manager have made huge changes at clubs without signing their own players.
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When they shift to a style which is completely removed from the one the squad is used and suited to, *and* where there are very obvious and huge gaps in the squad (literally zero wingbacks, which are absolutely key to the setup, and a dearth of inside forwards)?
posted on 4/11/24
*If* he decides to try to replicate what he’s doing at Sporting, I think we’ll see a pretty clear style of play emerge fairly quickly…. and it’ll bomb hard until he gets his (several and various) signings, because we just don’t have close to the players to make it work right now.
That’s what I mean about patience. We aren’t going to fly up the league. Will people accept that and give him - and the system - time, understanding that this is going to be a huge and difficult transition?
posted on 4/11/24
comment by It’s time for some Lancashire hotPote, R... (U17054)
posted 3 minutes ago
*If* he decides to try to replicate what he’s doing at Sporting, I think we’ll see a pretty clear style of play emerge fairly quickly…. and it’ll bomb hard until he gets his (several and various) signings, because we just don’t have close to the players to make it work right now.
That’s what I mean about patience. We aren’t going to fly up the league. Will people accept that and give him - and the system - time, understanding that this is going to be a huge and difficult transition?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I expect he's going to have to do it with the players he has. It won't be perfect, and there'll be stumbles dare I say disasters along the way. But as long as we can see a system, a style of play, with players being developed for that system then that's fine.
Genuine question, do you think anyone at LFC thought they had the players to adopt Klopp's gengenpress and turnover of the ball and high intensity football before he arrived? They hadn't won anything in 5 years yet you could see the transformation in style in his first season even though he didn't get them back into the top 4 for two years.
posted on 4/11/24
I’m easily pleased, show me work rate, and I’m happy. To achieve that, fitness and conditioning are key, this has been an area of concern for a number of years. Ashworth should carefully assess each player from now until the next window, conduct a thorough gap analysis, and target players who will enable Amorim to implement his preferred formation and tactics. Reshaping the squad won’t happen in one window, we always knew it would take three to four windows before nearing completion. The managerial change was a setback, but I’m confident Ashworth is, or should be, on course.
One surprise was targeting a coach who predominantly favours a three at the back system, something I’ve never seen in my lifetime at Utd. I’m open to this change if it brings results, after all, we’ve tried nearly everything else with little success!
posted on 4/11/24
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 1 hour, 43 minutes ago
comment by It’s time for some Lancashire hotPote, Ruben (U17054)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
Probably deserves an article, rather than just a comment to explain, but Amorim is going to need…
TIME.
A lot of time.
He’s going to change the coaching staff. He’s going to change the way in which we play - completely - and the standards demanded of the players physically and mentally. He’s going to tear up what these players have been used to tactically and start again. And he’s going to need a lot of new players to get his system working.
Anyone expecting a revolution within a month or two of him coming in should switch off now to avoid disappointment.
As Vengeance has said, we’re talking 24 months before we can expect to see something like Amorim will have in mind for us.
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He won’t get that at Manchester United.
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He's already getting pelters from the British press for speaking in Portuguese at his CL press conference today.
'Disrespecting your British fans' was the accusation I believe.
posted on 4/11/24
comment by The Process
posted 36 minutes ago
Willing to give Amorim plenty of time in terms of results but I do want to see an improvement in style reasonably quickly. Other manager have made huge changes at clubs without signing their own players.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Unlike other clubs, we had the Glazers as owners, prioritising profit over sporting success, we endured over a decade of financial wastefulness under Woodward, Murtough, and Arnold. As a result, we ended up with a squad lacking the quality that even our rivals weren’t interested in competing for.
Liverpool, by contrast, built a solid squad and then strengthened the team’s core. Under Klopp they achieved steady, incremental progress before finally winning the league, and they've remained competitive since. Klopp’s legacy is clear, with Slot now inheriting a squad capable of mounting a serious title challenge.
We had the finances, just not the best in class sporting leadership team, until now!
posted on 4/11/24
Disrespecting your British fans' was the accusation I believe.
--
Barf, this can’t be true, surely? Who’s made that accusation?!
posted on 4/11/24
comment by Barf Vader (U15867)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Ruben The King Amorim Tim Tagi Dim (U10026)
posted 1 hour, 43 minutes ago
comment by It’s time for some Lancashire hotPote, Ruben (U17054)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
Probably deserves an article, rather than just a comment to explain, but Amorim is going to need…
TIME.
A lot of time.
He’s going to change the coaching staff. He’s going to change the way in which we play - completely - and the standards demanded of the players physically and mentally. He’s going to tear up what these players have been used to tactically and start again. And he’s going to need a lot of new players to get his system working.
Anyone expecting a revolution within a month or two of him coming in should switch off now to avoid disappointment.
As Vengeance has said, we’re talking 24 months before we can expect to see something like Amorim will have in mind for us.
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He won’t get that at Manchester United.
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He's already getting pelters from the British press for speaking in Portuguese at his CL press conference today.
'Disrespecting your British fans' was the accusation I believe.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Amazing
Absolute facking cants. My god, there’s so much I don’t miss about facking Britain.
posted on 4/11/24
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 3 minutes ago
Disrespecting your British fans' was the accusation I believe.
--
Barf, this can’t be true, surely? Who’s made that accusation?!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I've seen a couple of questions from the PC from english journalists (Simon Stone I think was one) and he answered their questions in Portuguese - this is pretty standard for a PC in Portugal when the club is Portuguese and the manager is Portuguese.
Heard a bit from the Monday Night Club Podcast on BBC. Might have misheard as I was doing something else earlier but I'm pretty sure this is what they reported the reaction was from the press.
posted on 4/11/24
Monday Night Club is on now and I've checked back to what was said and I was right, the british press have had a go at him for not replying in English and sticking to the format and answering all questions in Portuguese.
posted on 4/11/24
When in Lisbon do as the Lisbians do, as they say in Rome.
posted on 4/11/24
comment by Barf Vader
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 3 minutes ago
Disrespecting your British fans' was the accusation I believe.
--
Barf, this can’t be true, surely? Who’s made that accusation?!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I've seen a couple of questions from the PC from english journalists (Simon Stone I think was one) and he answered their questions in Portuguese - this is pretty standard for a PC in Portugal when the club is Portuguese and the manager is Portuguese.
Heard a bit from the Monday Night Club Podcast on BBC. Might have misheard as I was doing something else earlier but I'm pretty sure this is what they reported the reaction was from the press.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I find some journalists at the BBC, especially those covering Utd, rather frustrating. Simon Stone and Phil McNulty seem to stand out for me, as their style gives a sense of bias against Utd, it's often sensationalised claptrap , designed to drive traffic to the BBC website. Compared to our European counterparts, who are often multilingual, UK journalists do come across as somewhat narrow minded at times. The tendency for certain UK journalists to portray a sense of superiority, while lacking the same language skills, shows a type of snobbery that everyone despises.
posted on 4/11/24
comment by Vengeance
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
comment by Barf Vader
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 3 minutes ago
Disrespecting your British fans' was the accusation I believe.
--
Barf, this can’t be true, surely? Who’s made that accusation?!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I've seen a couple of questions from the PC from english journalists (Simon Stone I think was one) and he answered their questions in Portuguese - this is pretty standard for a PC in Portugal when the club is Portuguese and the manager is Portuguese.
Heard a bit from the Monday Night Club Podcast on BBC. Might have misheard as I was doing something else earlier but I'm pretty sure this is what they reported the reaction was from the press.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I find some journalists at the BBC, especially those covering Utd, rather frustrating. Simon Stone and Phil McNulty seem to stand out for me, as their style gives a sense of bias against Utd, it's often sensationalised claptrap , designed to drive traffic to the BBC website. Compared to our European counterparts, who are often multilingual, UK journalists do come across as somewhat narrow minded at times. The tendency for certain UK journalists to portray a sense of superiority, while lacking the same language skills, shows a type of snobbery that everyone despises.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Complete press conference, featuring a disrespectful and arrogant questioner, likely Gary Cotterill from Sky Sports (at 21:48). What a pig!
https://youtu.be/BC8MQE73Rowsi=QYcATDQ2j7RpCvz_
posted on 4/11/24
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 8 hours, 42 minutes ago
I don't think the players are toxic. I think it's a lazy excuse that the media continue to throw out. For starters ETH signed 14 players whilst our manager so half this squad were his own players. He also made Bruno his captain, brought through Mainoo and Rashford was his star man for a good while.
We just have a lot of poor players. When you get recruitment this wrong for over a decade this is the end result. It's simple math. If you buy a load of players that were never good enough to start with or just flop badly then you become a crap team.
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First comment sums it up well. Let’s see what the new board can do with a year at the club and a summer window.
This summer was underwhelming, I have hope for Ugarte but worry for De Ligt and Zirkzee, seem another pair who won’t propel us anywhere near where we need to be. Let’s hope Yoro is the player he’s hyped up to be.
posted on 4/11/24
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 29 minutes ago
comment by Vengeance
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
comment by Barf Vader
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by Vengeance (U23079)
posted 3 minutes ago
Disrespecting your British fans' was the accusation I believe.
--
Barf, this can’t be true, surely? Who’s made that accusation?!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I've seen a couple of questions from the PC from english journalists (Simon Stone I think was one) and he answered their questions in Portuguese - this is pretty standard for a PC in Portugal when the club is Portuguese and the manager is Portuguese.
Heard a bit from the Monday Night Club Podcast on BBC. Might have misheard as I was doing something else earlier but I'm pretty sure this is what they reported the reaction was from the press.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I find some journalists at the BBC, especially those covering Utd, rather frustrating. Simon Stone and Phil McNulty seem to stand out for me, as their style gives a sense of bias against Utd, it's often sensationalised claptrap , designed to drive traffic to the BBC website. Compared to our European counterparts, who are often multilingual, UK journalists do come across as somewhat narrow minded at times. The tendency for certain UK journalists to portray a sense of superiority, while lacking the same language skills, shows a type of snobbery that everyone despises.
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Complete press conference, featuring a disrespectful and arrogant questioner, likely Gary Cotterill from Sky Sports (at 21:48). What a pig!
https://youtu.be/BC8MQE73Rowsi=QYcATDQ2j7RpCvz_
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There can only ever be 1 manager from Portugal in Gary Cotterill's eyes. The man is in love with Mourinho.
posted on 4/11/24
There can only ever be 1 manager from Portugal in Gary Cotterill's eyes. The man is in love with Mourinho.
…..
More than Robbsie and Wahl?
posted on 4/11/24
"It's like a cold shoulder to your English fans"
Cotterill the warrior is the self-appointed representative of United fans over here.
The question he put as well, which he wanted an answer in English to was, if you beat City tomorrow do you realise you'll be a hero to United fans before you even arrive at the club? Ffs.
posted on 4/11/24
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 33 minutes ago
There can only ever be 1 manager from Portugal in Gary Cotterill's eyes. The man is in love with Mourinho.
…..
More than Robbsie and Wahl?
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Absolutely. Although he could be Wahl I suppose.
https://x.com/gary_cotterill?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
posted on 5/11/24
comment by Busby
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 8 hours, 42 minutes ago
I don't think the players are toxic. I think it's a lazy excuse that the media continue to throw out. For starters ETH signed 14 players whilst our manager so half this squad were his own players. He also made Bruno his captain, brought through Mainoo and Rashford was his star man for a good while.
We just have a lot of poor players. When you get recruitment this wrong for over a decade this is the end result. It's simple math. If you buy a load of players that were never good enough to start with or just flop badly then you become a crap team.
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First comment sums it up well. Let’s see what the new board can do with a year at the club and a summer window.
This summer was underwhelming, I have hope for Ugarte but worry for De Ligt and Zirkzee, seem another pair who won’t propel us anywhere near where we need to be. Let’s hope Yoro is the player he’s hyped up to be.
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Looking back, was this transfer window that underwhelming, or did you feel like this at the time? Initially, most people saw it as a solid beginning for the new sporting team. None of the players were finished articles and although most came at a cost, they arrived with high promise, some, like De Ligt, came with question marks and his patchy form shows why. Despite this, almost all may end up making some contribution, only time will tell. Zirkzee, however, appears unsettled, our current form isn’t helping any of the new players. At the moment, only Mazraoui can confidently hold his head up high.
posted on 5/11/24
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 19 hours, 45 minutes ago
comment by The Spanish Italians - Its all coming home again (U21595)
posted 49 minutes ago
comment by Playmaker (U22780)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by The Spanish Italians - Its all coming home aga... (U21595)
posted 30 seconds ago
I don't believe the fans were hurling abuse as they came out the tunnel. For the first 20 mins the crowd was right behind them.
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defo did, was surprised to hear this too, new manager etc....
he said it was so toxic near that tunnel
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Think I saw Britney Spears if that helps.
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sigh,
Somebody comes on and posts in peace, informing you of something that happened at your game, and you make it a toxic time.....
well there you go, I guess
anyone wishing to discuss this sensibly, let me know
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I was there. Didn't hear it. <w@nkhor>
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kin el mate, why the aggression? - my pal was there and he heard it, what more can I say.
came on here nothing but polite, pointing out a toxic culture at clubs is often the fans, it was at Leeds to.. get called a boat load of names..
kind of proves my point in a way, returing my politness with a name calling and a refusal to accept something I've heard, could of / should of made for a decent debate.
the toxicity on this thread alone proves my point. oh well
posted on 6/11/24
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 day, 10 hours ago
Willing to give Amorim plenty of time in terms of results but I do want to see an improvement in style reasonably quickly. Other manager have made huge changes at clubs without signing their own players.
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This is obvious.
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