He should be cancelled.

Isn’t Guehi in bother too for writing “I love Jesus” on his rainbow armband?

The guy is a Muslim and it’s against his religion.

What’s the problem.

comment by Pranky 23/24 LFC Draft Champ (U22336)
posted 11 seconds ago
The guy is a Muslim and it’s against his religion.

What’s the problem.
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Is gambling against his religion?

comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 JA606 Class Act (U2462)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Pranky 23/24 LFC Draft Champ (U22336)
posted 11 seconds ago
The guy is a Muslim and it’s against his religion.

What’s the problem.
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Is gambling against his religion?
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I have no idea I’m not a Muslim😆

If we really claim to be a tolerant society then there should be no issue with him having an opinion.

I think I'd respect these guys a lot more were they not to pick and choose which bit of their religion they follow.

Constantly comes across as being homophobic but hiding behind religion to be so.

I think it's commonly accepted that one should respect another's religion and their choices based on that. Fine I can do that mostly. Live and let live and all that.

However if we break it down on actual reality we're saying that made up stories and a whole belief system based on made up stories passed down to others over centuries should have more respect than actual real people with real stories.

When I think of it in that way then no I can't respect the beliefs he has as I'd rather respect real things, real people.

Invariably no one of any consequence will want him cancelled but the daily Mail will pretend that the ‘woke mob’ will try and cancel him.

The ‘woke mob’ being the gammon bingo purveyors in the Daily Mails mouldy hate filled basement

comment by Robben Amorim (U22716)
posted 3 minutes ago
Invariably no one of any consequence will want him cancelled but the daily Mail will pretend that the ‘woke mob’ will try and cancel him.

The ‘woke mob’ being the gammon bingo purveyors in the Daily Mails mouldy hate filled basement
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I don't want him cancelled by the way. I just find him rather hypocritical. It'll also be funny to find Mail readers supporting a Muslim and their beliefs.

comment by Pranky 23/24 LFC Draft Champ (U22336)
posted 11 minutes ago
The guy is a Muslim and it’s against his religion.

What’s the problem.
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Gods aren'r real. People are real.

People should have every right not to take the knee, not to wear a poppy and not to wear a rainbow armband.

comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 JA606 Class Act (U2462)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robben Amorim (U22716)
posted 3 minutes ago
Invariably no one of any consequence will want him cancelled but the daily Mail will pretend that the ‘woke mob’ will try and cancel him.

The ‘woke mob’ being the gammon bingo purveyors in the Daily Mails mouldy hate filled basement
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I don't want him cancelled by the way. I just find him rather hypocritical. It'll also be funny to find Mail readers supporting a Muslim and their beliefs.
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I always think one of the biggest ironies of today is a lot of right leaning daily mail types would actually get on quite well with Islam if they could only see past the whole being foreign and brown thing.

comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Pranky 23/24 LFC Draft Champ (U22336)
posted 11 minutes ago
The guy is a Muslim and it’s against his religion.

What’s the problem.
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Gods aren'r real. People are real.
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No shiiiit. But some folk take their religious beliefs quite seriously.
I just don’t see the issue here.

comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 JA606 Class Act (U2462)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Robben Amorim (U22716)
posted 3 minutes ago
Invariably no one of any consequence will want him cancelled but the daily Mail will pretend that the ‘woke mob’ will try and cancel him.

The ‘woke mob’ being the gammon bingo purveyors in the Daily Mails mouldy hate filled basement
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I don't want him cancelled by the way. I just find him rather hypocritical. It'll also be funny to find Mail readers supporting a Muslim and their beliefs.
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The banner that hangs high above the Daily Mail press room says ‘the enemy of my enemy is my friend - if it gets us clicks’

It's just a bit hypocritical IMO when he was happy to wear a shirt with the sponsor being a gambling firm when he stated he didn't wear the armband for 'religious reasons'.
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Yeah, this.

I don't really know whether people who are against this type of stuff are homophobic or are just, in their heads at least, "standing up to wokeism" or some BS (or indeed whether those are the same thing). Given the general ages of PL footballers it's not hard to believe a fair few of them are signed up an Andrew Tate way of thinking unfortunately...

In this case though, as much as I find it quite ridiculous that people are so against putting on an armband that's multicoloured, it should be a player's choice and I think it becomes counterproductive to make a big deal out of anyone not wanting to wear it.

That being said, if I were a gay Ipswich player I probably would be a bit disappointed with my captain taking that stance. But maybe that's a different matter.

Also, Marc Guehi got told off for writing "I love Jesus" on his armband. Why can't he express his love for another man, yet at the same time get told to wear a LBGTQ+ armband???

comment by Pranky 23/24 LFC Draft Champ (U22336)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Pranky 23/24 LFC Draft Champ (U22336)
posted 11 minutes ago
The guy is a Muslim and it’s against his religion.

What’s the problem.
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Gods aren'r real. People are real.
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No shiiiit. But some folk take their religious beliefs quite seriously.
I just don’t see the issue here.
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And that's fine but when it starts impacting real people then no, you don't get to disrespect real people with your made up god.

The issue is he is against real people with real feelings and using a made up god to justify it.

That being said, if I were a gay Ipswich player I probably would be a bit disappointed with my captain taking that stance. But maybe that's a different matter.
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Think they already would know Morsy thinks they are immoral and should be stoned to death tbf. An armband won't have changed that.

comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by Pranky 23/24 LFC Draft Champ (U22336)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Pranky 23/24 LFC Draft Champ (U22336)
posted 11 minutes ago
The guy is a Muslim and it’s against his religion.

What’s the problem.
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Gods aren'r real. People are real.
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No shiiiit. But some folk take their religious beliefs quite seriously.
I just don’t see the issue here.
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And that's fine but when it starts impacting real people then no, you don't get to disrespect real people with your made up god.

The issue is he is against real people with real feelings and using a made up god to justify it.
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comment by Pranky 23/24 LFC Draft Champ (U22336)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by Pranky 23/24 LFC Draft Champ (U22336)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Pranky 23/24 LFC Draft Champ (U22336)
posted 11 minutes ago
The guy is a Muslim and it’s against his religion.

What’s the problem.
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Gods aren'r real. People are real.
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No shiiiit. But some folk take their religious beliefs quite seriously.
I just don’t see the issue here.
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And that's fine but when it starts impacting real people then no, you don't get to disrespect real people with your made up god.

The issue is he is against real people with real feelings and using a made up god to justify it.
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That's funny?

It's is the truth broken down.

Two opinions. One is based on a made up belief system worshipping a made up god. One is real.

You side with the made up person over the real person.

That is funny actually.

I agree TOOR. As a disclaimer, I think all religions are nonsense.

But ultimately what this guy is saying is that he doesn't believe LGBTQ+ people have the same rights or support their inclusion in sport.

I don't believe he should have to wear the armband or should have any type of consequence but if you think that, own it. Own your bigotry. Don't blame religion you weak minded fool, own your opinions.

He has his beliefs and is entitled to them. Why should anybody be forced to support a cause they don't believe in?

Pride as an organisation has ran its course anyway, it's achieved it's goals and those who don't align with it's values never will.

I'm all for people having a safe space and be part of a community, but what is gained by footballers wearing a pride band or laces? Honestly, it's a normal part of life now and if you're worried about peoples sexual prefrence you've too much time on your hands.

comment by Pranky 23/24 LFC Draft Champ (U22336)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by TheresOnlyOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Pranky 23/24 LFC Draft Champ (U22336)
posted 11 minutes ago
The guy is a Muslim and it’s against his religion.

What’s the problem.
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Gods aren'r real. People are real.
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No shiiiit. But some folk take their religious beliefs quite seriously.
I just don’t see the issue here.
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You can't? This is a really small and easy gesture designed to make football feel more inclusive for a group of people who have typically felt unwelcomed by it, to say the least. I can totally see why people are disappointed that a PL captain just can't stomach taking part in it.

I don't really care what aspects of their religion people pick and choose to follow, but as Diafol points out, he was quite happy to spend a season wearing a shirt with "Unibet" plastered on it. If you are going to play the religion card, that to me feels a bit more damaging to its principles than wearing an armband to let gay people know it's OK to take part in football.

It's his call and as i said, if I were the FA I wouldn't be making a big deal out of it. But the rest of us are more than entitled to call it out as stupid and a bit hypocritical.

comment by Szoboss (U6997)
posted 3 seconds ago
I agree TOOR. As a disclaimer, I think all religions are nonsense.

But ultimately what this guy is saying is that he doesn't believe LGBTQ+ people have the same rights or support their inclusion in sport.

I don't believe he should have to wear the armband or should have any type of consequence but if you think that, own it. Own your bigotry. Don't blame religion you weak minded fool, own your opinions.

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Yeah I agree. If he refuses to wear the armband then fine but using religion is not an acceptable excuse for me. Neither is being against LGBTQ+ but at least that's real and people can therefore choose to interact with you based on your real beliefs.