Depends whether you classify French as a nationality or a race, some might argue its both x
comment by Anfield of Dreams (U6971)
posted 26 seconds ago
what happens if he had said "why French?" is that derogatory because hes not worthy of a name???
your also forgetting that negro is commonly used in Uruguay.
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Of course 'negro' is commonly used, it's a colour. It's commonly used in every country not just Uruguay.
it only started because Evra thought he was called THE "N" word...but wasnt which he then subsequently changed from his original report. This is when the whole case shouldve been thrown out
Of course 'negro' is commonly used, it's a colour. It's commonly used in every country not just Uruguay.
yeah, some say its used in parts of kent as well.
comment by X (U4074)
posted 8 seconds ago
Depends whether you classify French as a nationality or a race, some might argue its both x
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regardless why would it be any worse if it was racial and not about a nation of people?
Why does racism sit above all else?
Why should people be punished for the past?
This is the 21st century. Time to move on a treat everybody as equal.
were not in Uraguay are we!!!!!!!!!!!
& you cant walk round saying "eh black" or "why black", WE ALL KNOW THIS DONT WE.
& you cant walk round saying "eh black" or "why black", WE ALL KNOW THIS DONT WE.
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The issue is why not?
Is it derogatory to be called black? No it's not, so how can it be abuse of any kind? Let alone racial abuse.
TOOR my sentiments exactly
What to appeal a decision you feel is incorrect?
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No, for him to goto the CAS in this instance.
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I am sorry but that excuse is nuts, proven drug cheats in sports can go to the CAS, but Suarez is not allowed.....not even with all this so called paper thin evidence he was convicted on?
comment by oldnewtonheath (U10418)
posted 1 second ago
were not in Uraguay are we!!!!!!!!!!!
& you cant walk round saying "eh black" or "why black", WE ALL KNOW THIS DONT WE.
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We can't but it still isn't racial abuse to ask, "why, black?" as there is no derogative used in reference to race.
comment by Fellaini's pirouette to perfection (U1308)
posted 1 second ago
What to appeal a decision you feel is incorrect?
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No, for him to goto the CAS in this instance.
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I am sorry but that excuse is nuts
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Indeed.
Bobby, I just feel TOORON is a massive drain on peoples time. Any thread he gets on, where he just says "black" to everyone elses "white" (no pun intended) and they spend hours and hours arguing with him, leaving other threads devoid of posts.
What they don't realise is that they are playing in to his hands, feeding him attention, which is what he desperately craves.
He's like JA606 cancer, eating away at it from the inside.
comment by oldnewtonheath (U10418)
posted 1 second ago
were not in Uraguay are we!!!!!!!!!!!
& you cant walk round saying "eh black" or "why black", WE ALL KNOW THIS DONT WE.
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We can't but it still isn't racial abuse to ask, "why, black?" as there is no derogative used in reference to race.
Please grow up. Its wrong you know it but you keep defending it, WHY?
We can't but it still isn't racial abuse to ask, "why, black?" as there is no derogative used in reference to race.
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it has already been explained, several times, why in itself it is derogatory, it doesn't require a qualifying swear word to make it so.
Try this - walk into your nearest shop staffed by a person of a particular ethnicity, walk up to the counter and ask for 20 benson and hedges, <insert ethnicity here>. no insults, no qualifying swearwords - and see what happens.
comment by VictorGooner™ (U2027)
posted 1 minute ago
We can't but it still isn't racial abuse to ask, "why, black?" as there is no derogative used in reference to race.
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it has already been explained, several times, why in itself it is derogatory, it doesn't require a qualifying swear word to make it so.
Try this - walk into your nearest shop staffed by a person of a particular ethnicity, walk up to the counter and ask for 20 benson and hedges, <insert ethnicity here>. no insults, no qualifying swearwords - and see what happens.
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Exactly. It is wrong.
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Fellaini's pirouette to perfection (U1308)
posted 1 second ago
What to appeal a decision you feel is incorrect?
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No, for him to goto the CAS in this instance.
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I am sorry but that excuse is nuts
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Indeed.
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So we agree you have no evidence that is is not possible for him to go to the CAS or as you put it illigal!
You are painting yourself into a corner and making yourself look like a right plank while you do.
comment by newWAYNEorder, the smiley god (U1015)
posted 41 seconds ago
Bobby, I just feel TOORON is a massive drain on peoples time. Any thread he gets on, where he just says "black" to everyone elses "white" (no pun intended) and they spend hours and hours arguing with him, leaving other threads devoid of posts.
What they don't realise is that they are playing in to his hands, feeding him attention, which is what he desperately craves.
He's like JA606 cancer, eating away at it from the inside.
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Are you finished following me around every article I go on and using your childish nickname? I mean if I'm going to have to filter you just so I don't have to see your childish comments then sobeit. I'll leave it up to you. Ask yourself one thing though, for somebody who craves attention, why do i filter people? For somebody you say is intentionally going around winding people up, why do I stay on my own board?
The simple fact is, you're a grown man who acts like a child, rubbishing everything which goes against your opinion, doing childish drawings and turning every adult debate into a childish insult match. So make your choice.
comment by oldnewtonheath (U10418)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by oldnewtonheath (U10418)
posted 1 second ago
were not in Uraguay are we!!!!!!!!!!!
& you cant walk round saying "eh black" or "why black", WE ALL KNOW THIS DONT WE.
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We can't but it still isn't racial abuse to ask, "why, black?" as there is no derogative used in reference to race.
Please grow up. Its wrong you know it but you keep defending it, WHY?
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Grow up? In what way are my comments childish? This is fact. You cannot abuse somebody without being derogatory. You cannot racially abuse somebody without be derogatory in regards to their race. These are factual statements and to suggest somebody is childish just because he/she doesn't agree with you is quite frankly ridiculous.
Walk into your nearest shop and call the assistants sister a c*nt. It won't go down well but that doesn't mean that the Spanish word Negro is racially abusive.
Grow up? In what way are my comments childish? This is fact. You cannot abuse somebody without being derogatory. You cannot racially abuse somebody without be derogatory in regards to their race. These are factual statements and to suggest somebody is childish just because he/she doesn't agree with you is quite frankly ridiculous.
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This does make a lot of sense.
How is "don't touch me south american" any better by the way?
comment by VictorGooner™ (U2027)
posted 5 minutes ago
We can't but it still isn't racial abuse to ask, "why, black?" as there is no derogative used in reference to race.
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it has already been explained, several times, why in itself it is derogatory, it doesn't require a qualifying swear word to make it so.
Try this - walk into your nearest shop staffed by a person of a particular ethnicity, walk up to the counter and ask for 20 benson and hedges, <insert ethnicity here>. no insults, no qualifying swearwords - and see what happens.
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This isn;t what happened though.
He asked "why, black?" which isn't derogatory meaning it isn't even abuse nevermind racist abuse.
Elvis said it is against FA rules to mention race at all, if so fair enough, Suarez was against this rule. However why wasn't he punished for this but instead abuse and racist abuse? I'll tell you, because it is not about what Suarez admitted to, it is about what Evra said that Suarez said.
comment by 5x (U5488)
posted 17 seconds ago
Walk into your nearest shop and call the assistants sister a c*nt. It won't go down well but that doesn't mean that the Spanish word Negro is racially abusive.
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To refer to someone by their skin colour alone isn't a nice thing to do. I wouldn't do it to anyone - especially not in the middle of a heated exchange.
How is "don't touch me south american" any better by the way?
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it's not. had Suarez made a complaint about it, and evra admitted to saying it, or it could be proved some other way, then I'm sure he would also have been banned.
Walk into your nearest shop and call the assistants sister a c*nt. It won't go down well but that doesn't mean that the Spanish word Negro is racially abusive.
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The bloke who runs my local shop is an only child
EVRA DID ADMIT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
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posted on 14/2/12
Depends whether you classify French as a nationality or a race, some might argue its both x
posted on 14/2/12
comment by Anfield of Dreams (U6971)
posted 26 seconds ago
what happens if he had said "why French?" is that derogatory because hes not worthy of a name???
your also forgetting that negro is commonly used in Uruguay.
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Of course 'negro' is commonly used, it's a colour. It's commonly used in every country not just Uruguay.
posted on 14/2/12
it only started because Evra thought he was called THE "N" word...but wasnt which he then subsequently changed from his original report. This is when the whole case shouldve been thrown out
posted on 14/2/12
Of course 'negro' is commonly used, it's a colour. It's commonly used in every country not just Uruguay.
yeah, some say its used in parts of kent as well.
posted on 14/2/12
comment by X (U4074)
posted 8 seconds ago
Depends whether you classify French as a nationality or a race, some might argue its both x
--------------------------
regardless why would it be any worse if it was racial and not about a nation of people?
Why does racism sit above all else?
Why should people be punished for the past?
This is the 21st century. Time to move on a treat everybody as equal.
posted on 14/2/12
were not in Uraguay are we!!!!!!!!!!!
& you cant walk round saying "eh black" or "why black", WE ALL KNOW THIS DONT WE.
posted on 14/2/12
& you cant walk round saying "eh black" or "why black", WE ALL KNOW THIS DONT WE.
__________________________________
The issue is why not?
Is it derogatory to be called black? No it's not, so how can it be abuse of any kind? Let alone racial abuse.
posted on 14/2/12
TOOR my sentiments exactly
posted on 14/2/12
What to appeal a decision you feel is incorrect?
---------------------------------
No, for him to goto the CAS in this instance.
===
I am sorry but that excuse is nuts, proven drug cheats in sports can go to the CAS, but Suarez is not allowed.....not even with all this so called paper thin evidence he was convicted on?
posted on 14/2/12
comment by oldnewtonheath (U10418)
posted 1 second ago
were not in Uraguay are we!!!!!!!!!!!
& you cant walk round saying "eh black" or "why black", WE ALL KNOW THIS DONT WE.
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We can't but it still isn't racial abuse to ask, "why, black?" as there is no derogative used in reference to race.
posted on 14/2/12
comment by Fellaini's pirouette to perfection (U1308)
posted 1 second ago
What to appeal a decision you feel is incorrect?
---------------------------------
No, for him to goto the CAS in this instance.
===
I am sorry but that excuse is nuts
-------------------------------
Indeed.
posted on 14/2/12
Bobby, I just feel TOORON is a massive drain on peoples time. Any thread he gets on, where he just says "black" to everyone elses "white" (no pun intended) and they spend hours and hours arguing with him, leaving other threads devoid of posts.
What they don't realise is that they are playing in to his hands, feeding him attention, which is what he desperately craves.
He's like JA606 cancer, eating away at it from the inside.
posted on 14/2/12
comment by oldnewtonheath (U10418)
posted 1 second ago
were not in Uraguay are we!!!!!!!!!!!
& you cant walk round saying "eh black" or "why black", WE ALL KNOW THIS DONT WE.
----------------------------------------
We can't but it still isn't racial abuse to ask, "why, black?" as there is no derogative used in reference to race.
Please grow up. Its wrong you know it but you keep defending it, WHY?
posted on 14/2/12
We can't but it still isn't racial abuse to ask, "why, black?" as there is no derogative used in reference to race.
-----------------------------
it has already been explained, several times, why in itself it is derogatory, it doesn't require a qualifying swear word to make it so.
Try this - walk into your nearest shop staffed by a person of a particular ethnicity, walk up to the counter and ask for 20 benson and hedges, <insert ethnicity here>. no insults, no qualifying swearwords - and see what happens.
posted on 14/2/12
comment by VictorGooner™ (U2027)
posted 1 minute ago
We can't but it still isn't racial abuse to ask, "why, black?" as there is no derogative used in reference to race.
-----------------------------
it has already been explained, several times, why in itself it is derogatory, it doesn't require a qualifying swear word to make it so.
Try this - walk into your nearest shop staffed by a person of a particular ethnicity, walk up to the counter and ask for 20 benson and hedges, <insert ethnicity here>. no insults, no qualifying swearwords - and see what happens.
------------------------------------
Exactly. It is wrong.
posted on 14/2/12
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Fellaini's pirouette to perfection (U1308)
posted 1 second ago
What to appeal a decision you feel is incorrect?
---------------------------------
No, for him to goto the CAS in this instance.
===
I am sorry but that excuse is nuts
-------------------------------
Indeed.
========
So we agree you have no evidence that is is not possible for him to go to the CAS or as you put it illigal!
You are painting yourself into a corner and making yourself look like a right plank while you do.
posted on 14/2/12
comment by newWAYNEorder, the smiley god (U1015)
posted 41 seconds ago
Bobby, I just feel TOORON is a massive drain on peoples time. Any thread he gets on, where he just says "black" to everyone elses "white" (no pun intended) and they spend hours and hours arguing with him, leaving other threads devoid of posts.
What they don't realise is that they are playing in to his hands, feeding him attention, which is what he desperately craves.
He's like JA606 cancer, eating away at it from the inside.
-------------------------------------
Are you finished following me around every article I go on and using your childish nickname? I mean if I'm going to have to filter you just so I don't have to see your childish comments then sobeit. I'll leave it up to you. Ask yourself one thing though, for somebody who craves attention, why do i filter people? For somebody you say is intentionally going around winding people up, why do I stay on my own board?
The simple fact is, you're a grown man who acts like a child, rubbishing everything which goes against your opinion, doing childish drawings and turning every adult debate into a childish insult match. So make your choice.
posted on 14/2/12
comment by oldnewtonheath (U10418)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by oldnewtonheath (U10418)
posted 1 second ago
were not in Uraguay are we!!!!!!!!!!!
& you cant walk round saying "eh black" or "why black", WE ALL KNOW THIS DONT WE.
----------------------------------------
We can't but it still isn't racial abuse to ask, "why, black?" as there is no derogative used in reference to race.
Please grow up. Its wrong you know it but you keep defending it, WHY?
----------------------------------------
Grow up? In what way are my comments childish? This is fact. You cannot abuse somebody without being derogatory. You cannot racially abuse somebody without be derogatory in regards to their race. These are factual statements and to suggest somebody is childish just because he/she doesn't agree with you is quite frankly ridiculous.
posted on 14/2/12
Walk into your nearest shop and call the assistants sister a c*nt. It won't go down well but that doesn't mean that the Spanish word Negro is racially abusive.
posted on 14/2/12
Grow up? In what way are my comments childish? This is fact. You cannot abuse somebody without being derogatory. You cannot racially abuse somebody without be derogatory in regards to their race. These are factual statements and to suggest somebody is childish just because he/she doesn't agree with you is quite frankly ridiculous.
________________________________
This does make a lot of sense.
How is "don't touch me south american" any better by the way?
posted on 14/2/12
comment by VictorGooner™ (U2027)
posted 5 minutes ago
We can't but it still isn't racial abuse to ask, "why, black?" as there is no derogative used in reference to race.
-----------------------------
it has already been explained, several times, why in itself it is derogatory, it doesn't require a qualifying swear word to make it so.
Try this - walk into your nearest shop staffed by a person of a particular ethnicity, walk up to the counter and ask for 20 benson and hedges, <insert ethnicity here>. no insults, no qualifying swearwords - and see what happens.
-------------------------------------------
This isn;t what happened though.
He asked "why, black?" which isn't derogatory meaning it isn't even abuse nevermind racist abuse.
Elvis said it is against FA rules to mention race at all, if so fair enough, Suarez was against this rule. However why wasn't he punished for this but instead abuse and racist abuse? I'll tell you, because it is not about what Suarez admitted to, it is about what Evra said that Suarez said.
posted on 14/2/12
comment by 5x (U5488)
posted 17 seconds ago
Walk into your nearest shop and call the assistants sister a c*nt. It won't go down well but that doesn't mean that the Spanish word Negro is racially abusive.
------------------------------------
To refer to someone by their skin colour alone isn't a nice thing to do. I wouldn't do it to anyone - especially not in the middle of a heated exchange.
posted on 14/2/12
How is "don't touch me south american" any better by the way?
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it's not. had Suarez made a complaint about it, and evra admitted to saying it, or it could be proved some other way, then I'm sure he would also have been banned.
posted on 14/2/12
Walk into your nearest shop and call the assistants sister a c*nt. It won't go down well but that doesn't mean that the Spanish word Negro is racially abusive.
==
The bloke who runs my local shop is an only child
posted on 14/2/12
EVRA DID ADMIT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
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