Elvis
- Evra lied about the number of times he originally claimed Suarez racially abused him.
- Evra lied about a Chelsea staff member racially abusing him.
- Evra lied as he hinted racist abuse by French coach, but later denied original statement.
Is that enough, three is a nice round number, no? x
How did Evra lie in the Chelsea case?
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Also tried to blame the manager and French staff for starting trouble in 2010 world cup..
Liar lair mouth on fire
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
Lying in the Chelsea case, lying in the Suarez case. Saying his fellow countrymen were racist against him after they "branded him a monkey grovelling to the white man". His major role in the World Cup fiasco. Saying the n-word on video.
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TOOR we have already address all of these issues. You know fine well that Evra never accused his countrymen of racial abuse. That was the spin that ESPN put on it. Evra never mentioned race nor does the monkey reference refer to race in the context of that specific case.
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Who said it isn't reference to race? Saying moneky grovelling before the whiteman isn't reference to race? Wow, just wow.
"Your opinion that he lied in the Suarez case is just that - opinion."
No, that is fact. Saying Suarez said the n-word then changing it. Saying he said it ten times, changing to five, then to seven. Saying that Suarez said because you are black, when in the language spoken and in the words Evra used was impossible as no fluent Spanish speaker would have talked like that. Amongst other things.
saying the n-word on video?!
clutching at straws there.... wasn't that tounge in cheek.
Suarez has biten a player, cheated at the world cup.
sent off and still celebrated.
cos he has no morals.
racially abused a player and he admitted saying it.
the lies to lfc and the fans making them look mugs.
kicks parker van damn style.
plus he's an ugly muthakunucker
yeah, wow, suarez is the perfect icon for liverpool.
TOOR is a MORON
TOORON!
Why do people keep feeding him the attention he craves, it just keeps him coming back for more.
Arguing with him is like arguing with a special needs child, you're actually being mean!
comment by X (U4074)
posted 45 seconds ago
Elvis
- Evra lied about the number of times he originally claimed Suarez racially abused him.
- Evra lied about a Chelsea staff member racially abusing him.
- Evra lied as he hinted racist abuse by French coach, but later denied original statement.
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- 10 times. Figure of speech. If he had said 'like 10 times' then nothing would have been made of it. Whether it was 5, 7 or 10 doesnt really matter that much does it?
- No he didnt. He specifically said that he never heard any racial abuse in the Chelsea case.
- First I have ever heard of that. Have you got a link to that?
Elvis you can deny Evra lied in the Chelsea case, but you then can't use the fact that Suarez was found guilty to prove Suarez lied x
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 25 seconds ago
saying the n-word on video?!
clutching at straws there.... wasn't that tounge in cheek.
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it doesn't matter how it was used. This is a disgusting word and Evra used it, on video, then claimed Suarez used it when he didn't.
Get em TOOR
Seriously though whatever you say wouldn't change anything so lets just get over it.
Elvis (U7425)
Explain to me why racial abuse is worse than any other form.
I mean, give me your own reasons. Is it okay for me to instigate an argument and insult you (I presume you are white) whatever way I like, but as soon as you mention my skin colour then you are the bad guy and I am the victim?
I would be interested in why you think that I can call your mother a sl ut, sl ag, wh ore, but if you call me black then I am the victim!
comment by Bobby (U4765) posted 5 minutes ago
Was it taken to the Court of Abritration for Sport?
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I'm not entirely sure it can go the the country of arbitration for sport until all other avenues have been exhausted.
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You mean like an appeal!
If LFC were not happy with the treatment of their player by the Governing body then the club can take the matter to the CAS. They could have appealed and if they were still unsatisfied with the Justice that was being handed out, and had grounds to do so, then they could go to CAS.
Any action would have put the 8 match punishment on hold. Like Terry, they could probably have ensured matter were dealth with in the summer.
Protesting your inncocence and then not fighting to protect it does not make any sense.
LFC fans on hear saying " Suarez did not shake Evra hand as a matter of honour and principle". Well if Suarez is such a man of principle it is ridiculous to suggest that he would not fight to clear his name.
Suarez has biten a player, cheated at the world cup.
sent off and still celebrated.
Disgusting behaviour to bite a fellow footballer. However if handball is cheating then every player is a cheat who has broken the rules, which means every player, ever.
Trying to volley the ball, missing it and catching another player is common place and happens many many times throughout the season.
Well if Suarez is such a man of principle it is ridiculous to suggest that he would not fight to clear his name.
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comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
Who said it isn't reference to race? Saying moneky grovelling before the whiteman isn't reference to race? Wow, just wow.
"Your opinion that he lied in the Suarez case is just that - opinion."
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No it is a reference to being a slave/pet. They arent mocking him for his race (which is the same as his) they are mocking him for grovelling. It is quite simple TOOR.
No, that is fact. Saying Suarez said the n-word then changing it. Saying he said it ten times, changing to five, then to seven. Saying that Suarez said because you are black, when in the language spoken and in the words Evra used was impossible as no fluent Spanish speaker would have talked like that. Amongst other things.
As for the n word - he admitted that he had translated it wrong. You think that is lying. Did the FA? Either way, it is opinion not fact. Unless of course you can get inside Evra's mind? Thought not.
How did Evra lie in the Chelsea case?
====================================
Also tried to blame the manager and French staff for starting trouble in 2010 world cup..
Liar lair mouth on fire
SORRY NOT HAPPY WITH THAT
I'am sure its "liar liar your pants are on fire, dont go near the telephone wire"
?
elvis - no link, I read in a french paper at the time, though you might argue it was sensationalist rubbish.
Even so 10 times is not a figure of speech, it is an exaggeration of the serious of the incident.
I think one time is serious enough, why Evra felt the need to exaggerate we can only speculate x
comment by X (U4074)
Elvis you can deny Evra lied in the Chelsea case, but you then can't use the fact that Suarez was found guilty to prove Suarez lied x
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I have never categorically stated that Suarez is guilty. It is my opinion that he probably is. But im also open to the fact that he may be innocent.
Explain to me why racial abuse is worse than any other form.
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Actually racial abuse can be dangerous, as it could be as a result of hate towards a particular race. That's why you have to be very careful.
Other forms of abuse are usually due to anger/frustration/annoyance, etc.
it doesn't matter how it was used. This is a disgusting word and Evra used it, on video, then claimed Suarez used it when he didn't.
um...but suarez did. then the idiot said it was perfectly fine to say it in his country. what a plank he is.
then he lied to you and to LFC, by not shaking the hand.
He lied to you, and got rapped on the knuckles.
and the evra video was done for a laugh, all about context isn't it.
Evra wasn't aiming it at anyone in particular, just messing around.
Suarez the ignoramus, used it to racially slur a person, which he got convicted of....nasty piece of work that buck tooth idiot is...
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
Who said it isn't reference to race? Saying moneky grovelling before the whiteman isn't reference to race? Wow, just wow.
"Your opinion that he lied in the Suarez case is just that - opinion."
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No it is a reference to being a slave/pet. They arent mocking him for his race (which is the same as his) they are mocking him for grovelling. It is quite simple TOOR.
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Yes black slave before the white man. You and everybody else knows what he meant be of course you try to defend it, why?
"As for the n word - he admitted that he had translated it wrong. You think that is lying. Did the FA? Either way, it is opinion not fact. Unless of course you can get inside Evra's mind? Thought not."
Suarez admitted he said 'negro' but not to insult Evra. But you and everybody else don't believe this. Unless you can get inside Suarez' mind? Thought not.
comment by BillyBobTaunton (U4886)
posted 4 minutes ago
Elvis (U7425)
Explain to me why racial abuse is worse than any other form.
I mean, give me your own reasons. Is it okay for me to instigate an argument and insult you (I presume you are white) whatever way I like, but as soon as you mention my skin colour then you are the bad guy and I am the victim?
I would be interested in why you think that I can call your mother a sl ut, sl ag, wh ore, but if you call me black then I am the victim!
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BBT I am only on lunch for another few mins so don't have time for a long winded wum by you. But once again; welcome to the 1970s.
SORRY NOT HAPPY WITH THAT
I'am sure its "liar liar your pants are on fire, dont go near the telephone wire"
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I don't like that one
I prefer the one I used
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 27 seconds ago
it doesn't matter how it was used. This is a disgusting word and Evra used it, on video, then claimed Suarez used it when he didn't.
um...but suarez did. then the idiot said it was perfectly fine to say it in his country.
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No he didn't. Evra said 'n*g*er'. Suarez said 'black' in Spanish, which is 'negro'.
Even so 10 times is not a figure of speech, it is an exaggeration of the serious of the incident.
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Exactly and you can't use it in a serious issue like this.
theres a difference between calling some one n****r and negro(which is spanish for black) stupid.
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posted on 14/2/12
Elvis
- Evra lied about the number of times he originally claimed Suarez racially abused him.
- Evra lied about a Chelsea staff member racially abusing him.
- Evra lied as he hinted racist abuse by French coach, but later denied original statement.
Is that enough, three is a nice round number, no? x
posted on 14/2/12
How did Evra lie in the Chelsea case?
====================================
Also tried to blame the manager and French staff for starting trouble in 2010 world cup..
Liar lair mouth on fire
posted on 14/2/12
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
Lying in the Chelsea case, lying in the Suarez case. Saying his fellow countrymen were racist against him after they "branded him a monkey grovelling to the white man". His major role in the World Cup fiasco. Saying the n-word on video.
----------------------------------------------
TOOR we have already address all of these issues. You know fine well that Evra never accused his countrymen of racial abuse. That was the spin that ESPN put on it. Evra never mentioned race nor does the monkey reference refer to race in the context of that specific case.
---------------------------------------
Who said it isn't reference to race? Saying moneky grovelling before the whiteman isn't reference to race? Wow, just wow.
"Your opinion that he lied in the Suarez case is just that - opinion."
No, that is fact. Saying Suarez said the n-word then changing it. Saying he said it ten times, changing to five, then to seven. Saying that Suarez said because you are black, when in the language spoken and in the words Evra used was impossible as no fluent Spanish speaker would have talked like that. Amongst other things.
posted on 14/2/12
saying the n-word on video?!
clutching at straws there.... wasn't that tounge in cheek.
Suarez has biten a player, cheated at the world cup.
sent off and still celebrated.
cos he has no morals.
racially abused a player and he admitted saying it.
the lies to lfc and the fans making them look mugs.
kicks parker van damn style.
plus he's an ugly muthakunucker
yeah, wow, suarez is the perfect icon for liverpool.
posted on 14/2/12
TOOR is a MORON
TOORON!
Why do people keep feeding him the attention he craves, it just keeps him coming back for more.
Arguing with him is like arguing with a special needs child, you're actually being mean!
posted on 14/2/12
comment by X (U4074)
posted 45 seconds ago
Elvis
- Evra lied about the number of times he originally claimed Suarez racially abused him.
- Evra lied about a Chelsea staff member racially abusing him.
- Evra lied as he hinted racist abuse by French coach, but later denied original statement.
-----------------------------------------
- 10 times. Figure of speech. If he had said 'like 10 times' then nothing would have been made of it. Whether it was 5, 7 or 10 doesnt really matter that much does it?
- No he didnt. He specifically said that he never heard any racial abuse in the Chelsea case.
- First I have ever heard of that. Have you got a link to that?
posted on 14/2/12
Elvis you can deny Evra lied in the Chelsea case, but you then can't use the fact that Suarez was found guilty to prove Suarez lied x
posted on 14/2/12
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 25 seconds ago
saying the n-word on video?!
clutching at straws there.... wasn't that tounge in cheek.
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it doesn't matter how it was used. This is a disgusting word and Evra used it, on video, then claimed Suarez used it when he didn't.
posted on 14/2/12
Get em TOOR
Seriously though whatever you say wouldn't change anything so lets just get over it.
posted on 14/2/12
Elvis (U7425)
Explain to me why racial abuse is worse than any other form.
I mean, give me your own reasons. Is it okay for me to instigate an argument and insult you (I presume you are white) whatever way I like, but as soon as you mention my skin colour then you are the bad guy and I am the victim?
I would be interested in why you think that I can call your mother a sl ut, sl ag, wh ore, but if you call me black then I am the victim!
posted on 14/2/12
comment by Bobby (U4765) posted 5 minutes ago
Was it taken to the Court of Abritration for Sport?
---------
I'm not entirely sure it can go the the country of arbitration for sport until all other avenues have been exhausted.
- - - -
You mean like an appeal!
If LFC were not happy with the treatment of their player by the Governing body then the club can take the matter to the CAS. They could have appealed and if they were still unsatisfied with the Justice that was being handed out, and had grounds to do so, then they could go to CAS.
Any action would have put the 8 match punishment on hold. Like Terry, they could probably have ensured matter were dealth with in the summer.
Protesting your inncocence and then not fighting to protect it does not make any sense.
LFC fans on hear saying " Suarez did not shake Evra hand as a matter of honour and principle". Well if Suarez is such a man of principle it is ridiculous to suggest that he would not fight to clear his name.
posted on 14/2/12
Suarez has biten a player, cheated at the world cup.
sent off and still celebrated.
Disgusting behaviour to bite a fellow footballer. However if handball is cheating then every player is a cheat who has broken the rules, which means every player, ever.
Trying to volley the ball, missing it and catching another player is common place and happens many many times throughout the season.
posted on 14/2/12
Well if Suarez is such a man of principle it is ridiculous to suggest that he would not fight to clear his name.
===
posted on 14/2/12
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
Who said it isn't reference to race? Saying moneky grovelling before the whiteman isn't reference to race? Wow, just wow.
"Your opinion that he lied in the Suarez case is just that - opinion."
--------------------------------
No it is a reference to being a slave/pet. They arent mocking him for his race (which is the same as his) they are mocking him for grovelling. It is quite simple TOOR.
No, that is fact. Saying Suarez said the n-word then changing it. Saying he said it ten times, changing to five, then to seven. Saying that Suarez said because you are black, when in the language spoken and in the words Evra used was impossible as no fluent Spanish speaker would have talked like that. Amongst other things.
As for the n word - he admitted that he had translated it wrong. You think that is lying. Did the FA? Either way, it is opinion not fact. Unless of course you can get inside Evra's mind? Thought not.
posted on 14/2/12
How did Evra lie in the Chelsea case?
====================================
Also tried to blame the manager and French staff for starting trouble in 2010 world cup..
Liar lair mouth on fire
SORRY NOT HAPPY WITH THAT
I'am sure its "liar liar your pants are on fire, dont go near the telephone wire"
?
posted on 14/2/12
elvis - no link, I read in a french paper at the time, though you might argue it was sensationalist rubbish.
Even so 10 times is not a figure of speech, it is an exaggeration of the serious of the incident.
I think one time is serious enough, why Evra felt the need to exaggerate we can only speculate x
posted on 14/2/12
comment by X (U4074)
Elvis you can deny Evra lied in the Chelsea case, but you then can't use the fact that Suarez was found guilty to prove Suarez lied x
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I have never categorically stated that Suarez is guilty. It is my opinion that he probably is. But im also open to the fact that he may be innocent.
posted on 14/2/12
Explain to me why racial abuse is worse than any other form.
=====================================
Actually racial abuse can be dangerous, as it could be as a result of hate towards a particular race. That's why you have to be very careful.
Other forms of abuse are usually due to anger/frustration/annoyance, etc.
posted on 14/2/12
it doesn't matter how it was used. This is a disgusting word and Evra used it, on video, then claimed Suarez used it when he didn't.
um...but suarez did. then the idiot said it was perfectly fine to say it in his country. what a plank he is.
then he lied to you and to LFC, by not shaking the hand.
He lied to you, and got rapped on the knuckles.
and the evra video was done for a laugh, all about context isn't it.
Evra wasn't aiming it at anyone in particular, just messing around.
Suarez the ignoramus, used it to racially slur a person, which he got convicted of....nasty piece of work that buck tooth idiot is...
posted on 14/2/12
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 31 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
Who said it isn't reference to race? Saying moneky grovelling before the whiteman isn't reference to race? Wow, just wow.
"Your opinion that he lied in the Suarez case is just that - opinion."
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No it is a reference to being a slave/pet. They arent mocking him for his race (which is the same as his) they are mocking him for grovelling. It is quite simple TOOR.
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Yes black slave before the white man. You and everybody else knows what he meant be of course you try to defend it, why?
"As for the n word - he admitted that he had translated it wrong. You think that is lying. Did the FA? Either way, it is opinion not fact. Unless of course you can get inside Evra's mind? Thought not."
Suarez admitted he said 'negro' but not to insult Evra. But you and everybody else don't believe this. Unless you can get inside Suarez' mind? Thought not.
posted on 14/2/12
comment by BillyBobTaunton (U4886)
posted 4 minutes ago
Elvis (U7425)
Explain to me why racial abuse is worse than any other form.
I mean, give me your own reasons. Is it okay for me to instigate an argument and insult you (I presume you are white) whatever way I like, but as soon as you mention my skin colour then you are the bad guy and I am the victim?
I would be interested in why you think that I can call your mother a sl ut, sl ag, wh ore, but if you call me black then I am the victim!
------------------------------------
BBT I am only on lunch for another few mins so don't have time for a long winded wum by you. But once again; welcome to the 1970s.
posted on 14/2/12
SORRY NOT HAPPY WITH THAT
I'am sure its "liar liar your pants are on fire, dont go near the telephone wire"
=================================
I don't like that one
I prefer the one I used
posted on 14/2/12
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 27 seconds ago
it doesn't matter how it was used. This is a disgusting word and Evra used it, on video, then claimed Suarez used it when he didn't.
um...but suarez did. then the idiot said it was perfectly fine to say it in his country.
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No he didn't. Evra said 'n*g*er'. Suarez said 'black' in Spanish, which is 'negro'.
posted on 14/2/12
Even so 10 times is not a figure of speech, it is an exaggeration of the serious of the incident.
===================================
Exactly and you can't use it in a serious issue like this.
posted on 14/2/12
theres a difference between calling some one n****r and negro(which is spanish for black) stupid.
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