CAs, look at the prices for the pavillion yourself, now tell me you think bringing in 3k per day on non match days is good:
http://www.leedsunited.com/staticFiles/7e/56/0,,10273~153214,00.pdf
Jonty, fair enough, so for you to be happy with Bates, you'd need to ensure he's not a fraudster? - and obviously we get some success too, backing players etc?
Jonty, it didn't open until September so it's a full year really. Matchday is a not bad at £18k. I beleive this could be one of the facilities that does add value in the coming years. I don't want further investment unless it is now in the squad. Then when in the PL invest in buying the ground. MOT
Tuscany, my main gripe is that he is not being honest with us and that money is going out of the club.
You have said you don't believe him when he says he hasn't taken a penny out of the club in 7 years.
If you can't believe him on that how can you believe him on anything?
I don't have a problem with him taking a salary, but why does he say he isn't?
We've had 7 years which he has not made the most of, I feel he has to repay those back to a degree.
He needs to be more transparent about club, engage better with fans (not banning people for different opinions), work out a more sensible ticket pricing structure to develop the fan base and create a fuller stadium, and invest sensibly in players and manager.
He needs to be more transparent about club, engage better with fans (not banning people for different opinions), work out a more sensible ticket pricing structure to develop the fan base and create a fuller stadium, and invest sensibly in players and manager.
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Totally agree. But would anyone beleive when he's being transparent. I do beleive in some of the things he says it's his age. Bit like when my gran calls me by my brothers name!!! I'm surprised he remembers which club he's running sometimes
How is match day 18k?
Assume pavillion opened sept (it actually opened in 2009!) then that's 21 home matches including the Arsenal match.
That's 13.5k per match.
Jonty, I agree Pal, on all things you have just said, the transparency and customer relations part I agree, obviosuly success too though, backing managers, and I have to say I am impressed that you would conceed if that was all to come for Bates, I agree it is a big IF
One thing I don't agree with is:
"If you can't believe him on that how can you believe him on anything"
seems a little black and white? - tell me you have never lied? big or small? - but I do agree it does not boad well for him, I just don;t think it can be that black and white IMO..
Cheers though Jonty, thats all I was wanting from you, we'll see in 2 years time
Tuscany, Bates lied under oath in court. He lied to us when saying the only player he'd ever prevented Grayson buying was a CB, then he said it was a midfielder, and you're admitting you feel he's lying about saying he doesn't draw a salary.
If you caught an employee of yours or a friends of yours continually lying you'd tend not to trust anything else they said....right?
Tusc
If your boss at pappa's pizza, kept telling porkies all the time, would you trust him.
Its a serious question
If you caught an employee of yours or a friends of yours continually lying you'd tend not to trust anything else they said....right?
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I agree Jonty, I was just wondering if he could turn it round with you?
LIW, I don't have a boss mate, serious answer to your serious question - I find that you are rather unreasable on this - something Jonty isn't
If Pags told you were 'big' how could you ever trust her again?
Jonty, based it on the following for the past year:
http://www.leedsunited.com/page/Homematchdayinfo/0,,10273,00.html
I must admit I enjoy meeting different fans in their before matches.
If Pags told you were 'big' how could you ever trust her again?
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Ive small hands mate, anything looks big in them
Trusting KB???? Are you kidding me? I have a question to anyone that trust anything KB is saying. Do you also believe that Santa and the tooth fairy exist?
So if you don't trust KB who does own us???
Norway, are you saying they don't
LIW even her t its ?
Tuscany, it's hard for me to see how he could.
Even Warnocks war chest?
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Like we ever had one
Tuscany, right now I'm not sure anymore
Norway, the Finns caught Santa!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1401143/
Tuscany, it's hard for me to see how he could.
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its a start though Jonty
Rome wasn't built in a day
Norway who was that fat man leaning over my bed on Christmas eve then? - my wife said it was Santa
Jonty You know, not everything you watch on the telly is true though
Did she tell you who was hiding under the be as well?
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posted on 19/4/12
CAs, look at the prices for the pavillion yourself, now tell me you think bringing in 3k per day on non match days is good:
http://www.leedsunited.com/staticFiles/7e/56/0,,10273~153214,00.pdf
posted on 19/4/12
whats your point
posted on 19/4/12
Jonty, fair enough, so for you to be happy with Bates, you'd need to ensure he's not a fraudster? - and obviously we get some success too, backing players etc?
posted on 19/4/12
Jonty, it didn't open until September so it's a full year really. Matchday is a not bad at £18k. I beleive this could be one of the facilities that does add value in the coming years. I don't want further investment unless it is now in the squad. Then when in the PL invest in buying the ground. MOT
posted on 19/4/12
Tuscany, my main gripe is that he is not being honest with us and that money is going out of the club.
You have said you don't believe him when he says he hasn't taken a penny out of the club in 7 years.
If you can't believe him on that how can you believe him on anything?
I don't have a problem with him taking a salary, but why does he say he isn't?
We've had 7 years which he has not made the most of, I feel he has to repay those back to a degree.
He needs to be more transparent about club, engage better with fans (not banning people for different opinions), work out a more sensible ticket pricing structure to develop the fan base and create a fuller stadium, and invest sensibly in players and manager.
posted on 19/4/12
He needs to be more transparent about club, engage better with fans (not banning people for different opinions), work out a more sensible ticket pricing structure to develop the fan base and create a fuller stadium, and invest sensibly in players and manager.
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Totally agree. But would anyone beleive when he's being transparent. I do beleive in some of the things he says it's his age. Bit like when my gran calls me by my brothers name!!! I'm surprised he remembers which club he's running sometimes
posted on 19/4/12
How is match day 18k?
Assume pavillion opened sept (it actually opened in 2009!) then that's 21 home matches including the Arsenal match.
That's 13.5k per match.
posted on 19/4/12
Jonty, I agree Pal, on all things you have just said, the transparency and customer relations part I agree, obviosuly success too though, backing managers, and I have to say I am impressed that you would conceed if that was all to come for Bates, I agree it is a big IF
One thing I don't agree with is:
"If you can't believe him on that how can you believe him on anything"
seems a little black and white? - tell me you have never lied? big or small? - but I do agree it does not boad well for him, I just don;t think it can be that black and white IMO..
Cheers though Jonty, thats all I was wanting from you, we'll see in 2 years time
posted on 19/4/12
Tuscany, Bates lied under oath in court. He lied to us when saying the only player he'd ever prevented Grayson buying was a CB, then he said it was a midfielder, and you're admitting you feel he's lying about saying he doesn't draw a salary.
If you caught an employee of yours or a friends of yours continually lying you'd tend not to trust anything else they said....right?
posted on 19/4/12
Tusc
If your boss at pappa's pizza, kept telling porkies all the time, would you trust him.
Its a serious question
posted on 19/4/12
If you caught an employee of yours or a friends of yours continually lying you'd tend not to trust anything else they said....right?
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I agree Jonty, I was just wondering if he could turn it round with you?
LIW, I don't have a boss mate, serious answer to your serious question - I find that you are rather unreasable on this - something Jonty isn't
If Pags told you were 'big' how could you ever trust her again?
posted on 19/4/12
Jonty, based it on the following for the past year:
http://www.leedsunited.com/page/Homematchdayinfo/0,,10273,00.html
I must admit I enjoy meeting different fans in their before matches.
posted on 19/4/12
If Pags told you were 'big' how could you ever trust her again?
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Ive small hands mate, anything looks big in them
posted on 19/4/12
Even Warnocks war chest?
posted on 19/4/12
Trusting KB???? Are you kidding me? I have a question to anyone that trust anything KB is saying. Do you also believe that Santa and the tooth fairy exist?
posted on 19/4/12
So if you don't trust KB who does own us???
posted on 19/4/12
Norway, are you saying they don't
LIW even her t its ?
posted on 19/4/12
Tuscany, it's hard for me to see how he could.
posted on 19/4/12
Even Warnocks war chest?
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Like we ever had one
posted on 19/4/12
Tuscany, right now I'm not sure anymore
posted on 19/4/12
Norway, the Finns caught Santa!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1401143/
posted on 19/4/12
Tuscany, it's hard for me to see how he could.
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its a start though Jonty
Rome wasn't built in a day
posted on 19/4/12
Norway who was that fat man leaning over my bed on Christmas eve then? - my wife said it was Santa
posted on 19/4/12
Jonty You know, not everything you watch on the telly is true though
posted on 19/4/12
Did she tell you who was hiding under the be as well?
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