Ziyech looks like a startled rabbit at the moment too.

comment by Kaiser Havertz (U5245)
posted about a minute ago
Lads we have an actual goalkeeper. Thought this day would never come
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I am still not sure how good he actually is, but at least he makes saves.

comment by CSTP (U1453)
posted 2 minutes ago
lol both teams were definitely scared
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Hell yes

comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 9 seconds ago
Ziyech looks like a startled rabbit at the moment too.
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Made a good ball out to the left wing near the end. Though unfortunately the chance was wasted when it got to Kante...

Ziyech needs a nice easy game to settle in

These kind of situations aren’t helping him

Yeah Kante losing it like that annoyed me at the end. Our one attack all half.

Time to watch some women get beaten up in the UFC to take away that shet show of a performance out of my head.

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Missed a boob falling out bro

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comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted 1 minute ago
But Lampard isn’t helping by playing them in different positions each game.

Havertz & Werner were not suited to a 3-4-3. Mount is not a wide player. Call me impatient but Lampard‘s tinkering is delaying any improvements
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Its possible this was a set up purely for United. It worked to perfection in the FA Cup last season. In the modern game players need to be adaptable.

comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted about a minute ago
If you keep conceding 3 goals in a game, you are the underdog.
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That falls on the manager, not down to the lack of quality in the squad he is managing
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And the manager is trying to change it.

comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted 2 minutes ago

But Lampard isn’t helping by playing them in different positions each game.

Havertz & Werner were not suited to a 3-4-3. Mount is not a wide player. Call me impatient but Lampard‘s tinkering is delaying any improvements
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He is settling down a bit when it comes to selections this season (so far), still tinkering with setup & especially player positions.

My line for this is still mid-season, if he's still messing about after that questions need to be asked.

comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted 1 minute ago
But Lampard isn’t helping by playing them in different positions each game.

Havertz & Werner were not suited to a 3-4-3. Mount is not a wide player. Call me impatient but Lampard‘s tinkering is delaying any improvements
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Its possible this was a set up purely for United. It worked to perfection in the FA Cup last season. In the modern game players need to be adaptable.


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Agree with that. At the same time we shouldn't still not know what our best formation is. The manager should also know who his best team is. Neither seem apparent.

comment by CP10 (U1097)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted 1 minute ago
But Lampard isn’t helping by playing them in different positions each game.

Havertz & Werner were not suited to a 3-4-3. Mount is not a wide player. Call me impatient but Lampard‘s tinkering is delaying any improvements
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Its possible this was a set up purely for United. It worked to perfection in the FA Cup last season. In the modern game players need to be adaptable.


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Agree with that. At the same time we shouldn't still not know what our best formation is. The manager should also know who his best team is. Neither seem apparent.
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I think t is pretty clear Frank intends to pmsy 4 2 3 1 in most games. I think he would have pmayed it today had it not been leaking so many goals. Ultimately, he needs it to work in his preferred system.

comment by Devil (U6522)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted 2 minutes ago

But Lampard isn’t helping by playing them in different positions each game.

Havertz & Werner were not suited to a 3-4-3. Mount is not a wide player. Call me impatient but Lampard‘s tinkering is delaying any improvements
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He is settling down a bit when it comes to selections this season (so far), still tinkering with setup & especially player positions.

My line for this is still mid-season, if he's still messing about after that questions need to be asked.
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Its too simplistic to ignore that we've largely been awful and looked incompetent just because its a nice milestone at the halfway point through the season. Questions should be asked throughout.

comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by CP10 (U1097)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted 1 minute ago
But Lampard isn’t helping by playing them in different positions each game.

Havertz & Werner were not suited to a 3-4-3. Mount is not a wide player. Call me impatient but Lampard‘s tinkering is delaying any improvements
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Its possible this was a set up purely for United. It worked to perfection in the FA Cup last season. In the modern game players need to be adaptable.


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Agree with that. At the same time we shouldn't still not know what our best formation is. The manager should also know who his best team is. Neither seem apparent.
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I think t is pretty clear Frank intends to pmsy 4 2 3 1 in most games. I think he would have pmayed it today had it not been leaking so many goals. Ultimately, he needs it to work in his preferred system.
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But its not our best system with these players is it? He's handcuffed himself by deciding that if he has.

comment by CP10 (U1097)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Devil (U6522)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted 2 minutes ago

But Lampard isn’t helping by playing them in different positions each game.

Havertz & Werner were not suited to a 3-4-3. Mount is not a wide player. Call me impatient but Lampard‘s tinkering is delaying any improvements
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He is settling down a bit when it comes to selections this season (so far), still tinkering with setup & especially player positions.

My line for this is still mid-season, if he's still messing about after that questions need to be asked.
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Its too simplistic to ignore that we've largely been awful and looked incompetent just because its a nice milestone at the halfway point through the season. Questions should be asked throughout.
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Yep agree, continuous analysis makes sense. I am more reserved though at drawing strong conclusions at this stage.

comment by CP10 (U1097)
posted about a minute ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by CP10 (U1097)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted 1 minute ago
But Lampard isn’t helping by playing them in different positions each game.

Havertz & Werner were not suited to a 3-4-3. Mount is not a wide player. Call me impatient but Lampard‘s tinkering is delaying any improvements
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Its possible this was a set up purely for United. It worked to perfection in the FA Cup last season. In the modern game players need to be adaptable.


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Agree with that. At the same time we shouldn't still not know what our best formation is. The manager should also know who his best team is. Neither seem apparent.
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I think t is pretty clear Frank intends to pmsy 4 2 3 1 in most games. I think he would have pmayed it today had it not been leaking so many goals. Ultimately, he needs it to work in his preferred system.
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But its not our best system with these players is it? He's handcuffed himself by deciding that if he has.
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He thinks if us and maybe he can prove us wrong.

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comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted less than a minute ago
We need to play to the players strengths. We’re never going to develop into a top side with this scattergun approach.

I will give him time, but I won’t reach for reasons to defend him over what is actually happening on the pitch.


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I won't reach for reasons to defend him either. No reaching required, just some rational thinking.

comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted less than a minute ago
We need to play to the players strengths. We’re never going to develop into a top side with this scattergun approach.

I will give him time, but I won’t reach for reasons to defend him over what is actually happening on the pitch.


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I won't reach for reasons to defend him either. No reaching required, just some rational thinking.
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Reaching can be rational, its just weak not illogical thinking

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comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted less than a minute ago
Optimistic not rational
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Nah, optimistic would be expecting us to be clicking after a handful of games.

I’m not sure what makes me more angry a 0-0 or a 3-3. 😠