comment by Kaiser Havertz (U5245)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Blarmy (U14547)
posted 37 seconds ago
rtm stop trying
apparently our concerns are irrational and we should bow to the intellectual superiority of biggish and co
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Yeah fk us for not lying down and whinging every game
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christ if you are not whinging after that you are stoic as a these https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokushinbutsu
comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted 8 minutes ago
But Lampard isn’t helping by playing them in different positions each game.
Havertz & Werner were not suited to a 3-4-3. Mount is not a wide player. Call me impatient but Lampard‘s tinkering is delaying any improvements
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That’s my thoughts too !
Lampard will think that keeping clean sheets is a sign of improvement of our defence. I am not sure he knows how to improve the defence without sacrificing the ability to attack yet.
Chopping and changing doesn’t help the team to settle either. There is no team chemistry or an identity on a style of play.
comment by CP10 (U1097)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Kaiser Havertz (U5245)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by CP10 (U1097)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Kaiser Havertz (U5245)
posted less than a minute ago
Yes you generally need good players to do well
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Nice.
Or you could admit managers are there to elevate their abilities and to get them to play better than individuals and more as a team.
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Obviously. But then you’re pretending he hasn’t improved anyone so what’s the point
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I'm not pretending anything. Who has he improved? Zouma hasn't improved. He's been good. He isn't any better than we knew he was. He just got more time on the pitch.
Mount? Tammy? CHO? Mount is just growing as a player naturally. Luckily he had a great start and earned himself a lot of time.
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Yeah so when someone improves it’s solely down to them but if someone gets worse it’s all Lampard. Not ar’sed arguing that
Lol he’s definitely improved Mount. Trying to deny that is ludicrous.
Zouma at the start of last season was crap. Since then he’s got back to his 2015 levels.
Lampard consistently brings in the wrong striker for the situation/game. Thats a huge issue. Not recognizing how to capitalize on an opportunity.
comment by CP10 (U1097)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Kaiser Havertz (U5245)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by CP10 (U1097)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Kaiser Havertz (U5245)
posted less than a minute ago
Yes you generally need good players to do well
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Nice.
Or you could admit managers are there to elevate their abilities and to get them to play better than individuals and more as a team.
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Obviously. But then you’re pretending he hasn’t improved anyone so what’s the point
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I'm not pretending anything. Who has he improved? Zouma hasn't improved. He's been good. He isn't any better than we knew he was. He just got more time on the pitch.
Mount? Tammy? CHO? Mount is just growing as a player naturally. Luckily he had a great start and earned himself a lot of time.
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This sounds like how we used to try witches.
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Id say he's improved Tammy, for all the good its done him though as he isnt gonna be starting striker now
comment by NPE - “relentless” (U22288)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted 2 minutes ago
We have a full-strength team now. Lampard is still acting like we need another two transfer windows
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Well we have had a full strength team for how long now?
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Long enough to not play the underdog
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If you keep conceding 3 goals in a game, you are the underdog. Truth is Lampard has not had the time with these players and the players gave not had the time yet either. Pulisic for example is clearly feeling his way back.Havertzand Werner not up to speed yet either.
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If you keep conceding three goals in a game get a different manager .
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Eventually yes.
Giroud/Tammy/Werner, he needs to figure out which of them suits each game.
Play to their strengths.
Giroud not getting a look in, bit like last season until he decided to use him after January. He's a far better sub than Bambi on ice
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He's improved Pulisic, got a consistency about him now that was lacking at Dortmund, one which if was there would've seen him go for the same 120mil euros they're demanding for Sancho.
He has improved certain players, undeniable.
If youre gonna go 3 at the back maybe try Kai or Pulisic in behind a front two of Werner and Giroud
comment by Kaiser Havertz (U5245)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by CP10 (U1097)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Kaiser Havertz (U5245)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by CP10 (U1097)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Kaiser Havertz (U5245)
posted less than a minute ago
Yes you generally need good players to do well
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Nice.
Or you could admit managers are there to elevate their abilities and to get them to play better than individuals and more as a team.
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Obviously. But then you’re pretending he hasn’t improved anyone so what’s the point
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I'm not pretending anything. Who has he improved? Zouma hasn't improved. He's been good. He isn't any better than we knew he was. He just got more time on the pitch.
Mount? Tammy? CHO? Mount is just growing as a player naturally. Luckily he had a great start and earned himself a lot of time.
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Yeah so when someone improves it’s solely down to them but if someone gets worse it’s all Lampard. Not ar’sed arguing that
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Didn't know you'd be like this. Mount started better last season than he's been since. That start has earned him endless mins. How has he improved since?
Zouma was already a solid defender with weaknesses. With more mins that remained constant. How has he improved since being under Lampard?
Laugh all you want but you have no retort to a difference in opinions. So its all a bit weak.
Mount was scoring mroe freely beginning of last season maybe but he developed quite clearly as a player over the year
Zouma is better now than he was during his loans at Stoke and Everton
Also Lamps was his manager at fecking Derby Rtm
Maybe give up this angle
comment by Blarmy (U14547)
posted less than a minute ago
Also Lamps was his manager at fecking Derby Rtm
Maybe give up this angle
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Still couldn't settle a defense
comment by NPE - “relentless” (U22288)
posted 9 seconds ago
I will always love Lampard but he just does not seem right for this role at this moment in his career. There is nothing traitorous about saying that.
Liverpool had Dalglish for a season in 2012 and as much as it pained them they sacked him.
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I don't even like Lampard that much. For some reason hecwad never my absolute Chelsea favourite. I much preferred Drogba, Cole, Zola and a few others.
I think Kovacic has improved since Sarri. I mean he won player of the year last season.
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Okay RtM, he hasn’t improved a single player. Happy?
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posted on 24/10/20
comment by Kaiser Havertz (U5245)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Blarmy (U14547)
posted 37 seconds ago
rtm stop trying
apparently our concerns are irrational and we should bow to the intellectual superiority of biggish and co
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Yeah fk us for not lying down and whinging every game
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christ if you are not whinging after that you are stoic as a these https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokushinbutsu
posted on 24/10/20
comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted 8 minutes ago
But Lampard isn’t helping by playing them in different positions each game.
Havertz & Werner were not suited to a 3-4-3. Mount is not a wide player. Call me impatient but Lampard‘s tinkering is delaying any improvements
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That’s my thoughts too !
Lampard will think that keeping clean sheets is a sign of improvement of our defence. I am not sure he knows how to improve the defence without sacrificing the ability to attack yet.
Chopping and changing doesn’t help the team to settle either. There is no team chemistry or an identity on a style of play.
posted on 24/10/20
comment by CP10 (U1097)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Kaiser Havertz (U5245)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by CP10 (U1097)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Kaiser Havertz (U5245)
posted less than a minute ago
Yes you generally need good players to do well
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Nice.
Or you could admit managers are there to elevate their abilities and to get them to play better than individuals and more as a team.
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Obviously. But then you’re pretending he hasn’t improved anyone so what’s the point
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I'm not pretending anything. Who has he improved? Zouma hasn't improved. He's been good. He isn't any better than we knew he was. He just got more time on the pitch.
Mount? Tammy? CHO? Mount is just growing as a player naturally. Luckily he had a great start and earned himself a lot of time.
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Yeah so when someone improves it’s solely down to them but if someone gets worse it’s all Lampard. Not ar’sed arguing that
posted on 24/10/20
Lol he’s definitely improved Mount. Trying to deny that is ludicrous.
Zouma at the start of last season was crap. Since then he’s got back to his 2015 levels.
posted on 24/10/20
Lampard consistently brings in the wrong striker for the situation/game. Thats a huge issue. Not recognizing how to capitalize on an opportunity.
posted on 24/10/20
Hes improved Mount
posted on 24/10/20
comment by CP10 (U1097)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Kaiser Havertz (U5245)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by CP10 (U1097)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Kaiser Havertz (U5245)
posted less than a minute ago
Yes you generally need good players to do well
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Nice.
Or you could admit managers are there to elevate their abilities and to get them to play better than individuals and more as a team.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Obviously. But then you’re pretending he hasn’t improved anyone so what’s the point
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I'm not pretending anything. Who has he improved? Zouma hasn't improved. He's been good. He isn't any better than we knew he was. He just got more time on the pitch.
Mount? Tammy? CHO? Mount is just growing as a player naturally. Luckily he had a great start and earned himself a lot of time.
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This sounds like how we used to try witches.
posted on 24/10/20
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posted on 24/10/20
Id say he's improved Tammy, for all the good its done him though as he isnt gonna be starting striker now
posted on 24/10/20
He's improved Kepa
posted on 24/10/20
comment by NPE - “relentless” (U22288)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted 2 minutes ago
We have a full-strength team now. Lampard is still acting like we need another two transfer windows
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Well we have had a full strength team for how long now?
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Long enough to not play the underdog
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If you keep conceding 3 goals in a game, you are the underdog. Truth is Lampard has not had the time with these players and the players gave not had the time yet either. Pulisic for example is clearly feeling his way back.Havertzand Werner not up to speed yet either.
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If you keep conceding three goals in a game get a different manager .
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Eventually yes.
posted on 24/10/20
Giroud/Tammy/Werner, he needs to figure out which of them suits each game.
Play to their strengths.
posted on 24/10/20
Giroud not getting a look in, bit like last season until he decided to use him after January. He's a far better sub than Bambi on ice
posted on 24/10/20
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posted on 24/10/20
He's improved Pulisic, got a consistency about him now that was lacking at Dortmund, one which if was there would've seen him go for the same 120mil euros they're demanding for Sancho.
He has improved certain players, undeniable.
posted on 24/10/20
If youre gonna go 3 at the back maybe try Kai or Pulisic in behind a front two of Werner and Giroud
posted on 24/10/20
comment by Kaiser Havertz (U5245)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by CP10 (U1097)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Kaiser Havertz (U5245)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by CP10 (U1097)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Kaiser Havertz (U5245)
posted less than a minute ago
Yes you generally need good players to do well
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Nice.
Or you could admit managers are there to elevate their abilities and to get them to play better than individuals and more as a team.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Obviously. But then you’re pretending he hasn’t improved anyone so what’s the point
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I'm not pretending anything. Who has he improved? Zouma hasn't improved. He's been good. He isn't any better than we knew he was. He just got more time on the pitch.
Mount? Tammy? CHO? Mount is just growing as a player naturally. Luckily he had a great start and earned himself a lot of time.
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Yeah so when someone improves it’s solely down to them but if someone gets worse it’s all Lampard. Not ar’sed arguing that
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Didn't know you'd be like this. Mount started better last season than he's been since. That start has earned him endless mins. How has he improved since?
Zouma was already a solid defender with weaknesses. With more mins that remained constant. How has he improved since being under Lampard?
Laugh all you want but you have no retort to a difference in opinions. So its all a bit weak.
posted on 24/10/20
Mount was scoring mroe freely beginning of last season maybe but he developed quite clearly as a player over the year
posted on 24/10/20
Zouma is better now than he was during his loans at Stoke and Everton
posted on 24/10/20
Also Lamps was his manager at fecking Derby Rtm
Maybe give up this angle
posted on 24/10/20
comment by Blarmy (U14547)
posted less than a minute ago
Also Lamps was his manager at fecking Derby Rtm
Maybe give up this angle
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Still couldn't settle a defense
posted on 24/10/20
comment by NPE - “relentless” (U22288)
posted 9 seconds ago
I will always love Lampard but he just does not seem right for this role at this moment in his career. There is nothing traitorous about saying that.
Liverpool had Dalglish for a season in 2012 and as much as it pained them they sacked him.
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I don't even like Lampard that much. For some reason hecwad never my absolute Chelsea favourite. I much preferred Drogba, Cole, Zola and a few others.
posted on 24/10/20
I think Kovacic has improved since Sarri. I mean he won player of the year last season.
posted on 24/10/20
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posted on 24/10/20
Okay RtM, he hasn’t improved a single player. Happy?
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