The better of the Sanch's

comment by T.J (U15973)
posted 12 seconds ago
Don't mind passing a lot more, but it's got to be a bit quicker and forward.

He surely can't be impressed with what he saw today, quality was a shambles
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I agree - but I think his reasoning will not be we were being too slow in possession

comment by NPE - Maresca's Minions (U22712)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by minididi (U17584)
posted 17 seconds ago
Palmer seems to be getting less and less of the ball in the final third. Would love to see the stats (re. no. of touches/passes) but his shot volume has almost certainly gone down
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He gets marked out of games which wouldn't be possible if our wingers were a threat.
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That's a fair point - though I wouldn't say that Madueke and Neto are getting as many one on one opportunities as you'd expect given the opposition are basically shadowing Palmer

comment by minididi (U17584)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by NPE - Maresca's Minions (U22712)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by minididi (U17584)
posted 17 seconds ago
Palmer seems to be getting less and less of the ball in the final third. Would love to see the stats (re. no. of touches/passes) but his shot volume has almost certainly gone down
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He gets marked out of games which wouldn't be possible if our wingers were a threat.
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That's a fair point - though I wouldn't say that Madueke and Neto are getting as many one on one opportunities as you'd expect given the opposition are basically shadowing Palmer
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I think once they start converting then itll free up Palmer. But Palmer needs to adapt as well

comment by T.J (U15973)
posted 48 seconds ago

Don't mind passing a lot more, but it's got to be a bit quicker and forward.

He surely can't be impressed with what he saw today, quality was a shambles
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It is comparative to some of the possession football we've seen over the last 4-5 years. We're not doing the grinding switch through the back 4 (one at the time) sh!te now, and are developing nice interplay in the midfield.

Playing possession football quickly is very hard to come by. That most certainly does take time.

Just feel we're more dangerous when we move the ball quicker, as shown in glimpses in the first half. When we slow it down it allows the opposition to get back in their shape and then we struggle.

I guess Maresca will argue and say we don't lose the ball as much in transition by slowing it down etc.

comment by T.J (U15973)
posted 53 seconds ago
Just feel we're more dangerous when we move the ball quicker, as shown in glimpses in the first half. When we slow it down it allows the opposition to get back in their shape and then we struggle.

I guess Maresca will argue and say we don't lose the ball as much in transition by slowing it down etc.
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I actual prefer counter attacking football — just saying the longer Maresca is here, the slower and more possession based we'll become.

Anyway, another opportunity missed for me. That game was their for the taking and ultimately we failed to deliver the goods.

At least it's not a defeat that many of us predicted before Mick off and we came back from conceding first.

Maresca won't like how we went from attacking their goal with two mins left of the game to defending our box and clinging on to our draw. That sort of thing will drive him nuts.

comment by T.J (U15973)
posted 33 seconds ago
Anyway, another opportunity missed for me. That game was their for the taking and ultimately we failed to deliver the goods.

At least it's not a defeat that many of us predicted before Mick off and we came back from conceding first.
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Only problem is I also have zero confidence for Arsenal game

comment by NPE - Maresca's Minions (U22712)
posted 24 seconds ago
Maresca won't like how we went from attacking their goal with two mins left of the game to defending our box and clinging on to our draw. That sort of thing will drive him nuts.
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I understand that, he hates the end to end nature of games and prefers us to control the match by having possession.

It's just finding that right balance and not keep the ball for the sake of it without any actual urgency

How was that not a red for Utd ??? Just watching replays my mind hasn't changed. VAR looked at that and decided it's not a red. How ????

Jackson wasn’t that bad today but he should’ve been subbed at some point

comment by T.J (U15973)
posted 2 minutes ago

Just feel we're more dangerous when we move the ball quicker, as shown in glimpses in the first half. When we slow it down it allows the opposition to get back in their shape and then we struggle.

I guess Maresca will argue and say we don't lose the ball as much in transition by slowing it down etc.
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Yeah so do I. We're actually a transition team on paper - defensive minded CM's, all pace up front.

And like NPE I prefer counter football, but if we're determined to play possession I'll take this atm (it's vertically minded) especially if it's going to get better

I thought overall the ref was alright

comment by NPE - Maresca's Minions (U22712)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by T.J (U15973)
posted 33 seconds ago
Anyway, another opportunity missed for me. That game was their for the taking and ultimately we failed to deliver the goods.

At least it's not a defeat that many of us predicted before Mick off and we came back from conceding first.
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Only problem is I also have zero confidence for Arsenal game
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They've got a tough away game in Milan midweek and hopefully Odegaard is still out, I'll be a little bit more confident then lol

comment by CSTP (U1453)
posted 2 minutes ago

I thought overall the ref was alright
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I felt bad for him when he blow for the free kick in the first half when he should've played advantage.

This is the life of a referee. I'm sure the second after he did that he knew he'd f*cked up, and if Hojlund scored he'd be getting called bent, corrupt, blah blah blah by United fans the rest of the week.

comment by T.J (U15973)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by NPE - Maresca's Minions (U22712)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by T.J (U15973)
posted 33 seconds ago
Anyway, another opportunity missed for me. That game was their for the taking and ultimately we failed to deliver the goods.

At least it's not a defeat that many of us predicted before Mick off and we came back from conceding first.
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Only problem is I also have zero confidence for Arsenal game
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They've got a tough away game in Milan midweek and hopefully Odegaard is still out, I'll be a little bit more confident then lol
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This is my thinking especially if a couple pick up knocks

Disappointed not to get the win, one of those games where I think the age of the team showed

Had enough to beat them but played a little within themselves today

That being said, glad to come away from old Trafford without a chitty defeat

Wonder why we’re always so lethargic and timid away from home? Even when the opposition is awful.
Wolves should have battered us first half.
Bournemouth battered us too.
Newcastle awful.
Today awful.
Liverpool…was okay. And there for the taking and we played within ourselves.
West Ham we was okay too.

Big big games away from home for half a decade now we haven’t turned up other than maybe city away last year.

comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 2 hours, 30 minutes ago
How was that not a red for Utd ??? Just watching replays my mind hasn't changed. VAR looked at that and decided it's not a red. How ????
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It’s a straight red and VAR should’ve told the ref it needed to be. He targeted Palmers knee while diving in. There’s no world where that isn’t a red card offense. They blew it massively.

comment by RtM (U1097)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 2 hours, 30 minutes ago
How was that not a red for Utd ??? Just watching replays my mind hasn't changed. VAR looked at that and decided it's not a red. How ????
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It’s a straight red and VAR should’ve told the ref it needed to be. He targeted Palmers knee while diving in. There’s no world where that isn’t a red card offense. They blew it massively.
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Yup it was a disgusting tackle and could have seriously injured Palmer. Under current rules that's a straight red. No two ways about it.

The club should demand that those Var officials issue a statement describing exactly why they didn't think it was a red card. We need to know for clarification at very least.

comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by RtM (U1097)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by Superb (U6486)
posted 2 hours, 30 minutes ago
How was that not a red for Utd ??? Just watching replays my mind hasn't changed. VAR looked at that and decided it's not a red. How ????
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It’s a straight red and VAR should’ve told the ref it needed to be. He targeted Palmers knee while diving in. There’s no world where that isn’t a red card offense. They blew it massively.
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Yup it was a disgusting tackle and could have seriously injured Palmer. Under current rules that's a straight red. No two ways about it.

The club should demand that those Var officials issue a statement describing exactly why they didn't think it was a red card. We need to know for clarification at very least.
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We already have that on twitter

The referee issued a yellow card to Martinez for a challenge on Palmer. VAR checked for a potential red card and confirmed the referee’s call of no red card, deeming that it was a reckless challenge and not serious foul play

https://x.com/PLMatchCentre/status/1853143065747411024

Should've been a red as he had no intention of playing the ball. Thankfully it was very late in the game so it didn't affect the end result.