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Both just puppets for the 1% ers

America votes with its stomach. Are the people hungry for more change? Upset stomach? We will see

soccer?lol.

How much does it cost to stand as the 3rd (or 4th or 5th) person running for president in the states?

And I am asking about the most minimum. Like register to run and have your name on the ballot sheet, kinda thing.

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How can I repost this article tomorrow night for those who want to discuss the election?

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to be honest i didn't mind your joke just seeing as there's some Americans on here I wouldn't want them getting the article pulled, might be from NY you never know.

You made really good points in your little essay though.

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The thing with voting is, how many people actually go out the way and see what they are voting for when they actually vote for someone? I have met people who always vote labour or tory no matter what policy they run.

The other thing is, I can understand voting for the lesser of two evils. But of if they are as bad as each other? you're pretty much stuck with the same level of Evil (as Kang and Kodos demonstrated in The Simpsons).

Democracy itself isn't a great system. When you have anyone over the age of 18 being able to vote. Majority of the population are idiots. One just has to see the fact that someone like Romney could win and Bush actually winning an election that letting people have a say may sound great but people don't know what's good for them. The second thing is, when you are voted in for only 4 or 5 years, you don't always have enough time to implement your policies and depending on how your country is set up, you may not even have the power to do so.

One also has to see how democracy is like in countries like Pakistan and Bangladesh, where its more like a change of dynasties rather than actual democracy. The two parties are as bad as each other, the only thing that is different is that what may be the lesser of two evils for you may not be the same case for the other voters.

Another thing, I have seen plenty here complain about the smaller nations having as much rights in their votes as the bigger nations in FIFA. If it were possible to have people qualified to vote and then it being mandatory for them to vote, it would improve the system to an extent.

Even China's system wouldn't be bad if they didn't abuse their people's rights or tried to control what the people thought or could say.

I've lost faith because whether tory or labour get in, it doesn't effect me as much as say if the BNP were to get in. If it BNP were ever in with a chance of winning, I would definently vote for the lesser of two evils, but to even have someone like the BNP having a chance at getting voted in shows that the system sounds great but is not.

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The thing with voting is, how many people actually go out the way and see what they are voting for when they actually vote for someone? I have met people who always vote labour or tory no matter what policy they run.
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This is what I don't like about how voting has turned out in the UK and the US. It's not about what's best for the country anymore, it's about beating the opposition.
I'd like to think that if I was a politician and I recognised the I had made a mistake or that the opposition had a better idea on something, I'd be enough of a man to do what's best for the country, admit I was wrong and change things.

The second thing is, when you are voted in for only 4 or 5 years, you don't always have enough time to implement your policies and depending on how your country is set up, you may not even have the power to do so.
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Agree with this too, Obama has not had time to change things, especially in the current climate, but things are now showing signs of improvement. Changing things now would ruin everything.

Obama is the NWO´s puppet so will definitely win. They need him to expand their worldwide agenda.

Mitt Romney believes the world is only a few thousand years old and that dinosaurs were put here to test mankind.
No matter how bad Obama is, i'd never vote for someone who believes that there is some non-existent God in a cloud judging us all and using that as an excuse to bomb Iran and start WW3.

Obama is the NWO´s puppet so will definitely win. They need him to expand their worldwide agenda.
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Please tell me this is a joke.

Agreed Bloodred!

The NWO's agenda relies on Mitt Romney and his close ties with the Tea Party movement.

Though it could be argued that both Obama and Romney are working for the same paymasters at the end of the day.

Mitt Romney believes the world is only a few thousand years old and that dinosaurs were put here to test mankind.

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And these are the sort of people who get put forward to supposedly lead the free world ?

Either way I find it sad that so many people get sucked into the illusion that voting for either man will make any difference as these days Presidents are nothing more than puppets.

Also the President actually has little realistic influence or power when it comes to fixing or changing things like the economy.

In the US the Federal Reserve Bank has all the power when it comes to the economy at large and it is the Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank who actually dictates policy. Not the President.

To make matters worse there is very little about the Federal Reserve Bank that is actually Federal and it is essentially a private banking cartel.

So in essence we have a private banking cartel dictating what happens to the economy of the US and therefore the the world at large as the worldwide economy is so dependant upon what happens in America.

When you realise that you understand why the world´s economy is in such a mess and why we are in one of the biggest recessions since the Great Depression of the 1920´s.

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The thing with voting is, how many people actually go out the way and see what they are voting for when they actually vote for someone? I have met people who always vote labour or tory no matter what policy they run.
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This is what I don't like about how voting has turned out in the UK and the US. It's not about what's best for the country anymore, it's about beating the opposition.
I'd like to think that if I was a politician and I recognised the I had made a mistake or that the opposition had a better idea on something, I'd be enough of a man to do what's best for the country, admit I was wrong and change things.
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I've just been told Obama's in the lead, any truth to this? What time will we have a clear idea of how the elections are going?

If the president had influence over the monetary policy he would manipulate rates around election cycles.

Not saying the Fed is the right choice but it's certainly a better one than the president.

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The bookies have Obama at 1/5 which is a sign that he's got a decent lead. It all comes down to Nevada, Florida and Ohio I believe.