and you guys still think Suarez is world class who came up with this "Suarez is world class" thing anyway?
Think it was this guy....
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comment by Sir Robert Paisley says(U3823)
posted on 4/9/11
Better than
rooney..........Yes
Messi...........not better at the moment.
ronaldo........not better at the moment.
xavi..............probably
innesta........???.....if you mean iniesta then yes.
He's without doubt world class and your saying he isn't in the top 5 in the world just showsw you are a fool.
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What tops it off is the fact that people who don't see what he does are the fools!
comment by Sir Robert Paisley says(U3823)
posted on 4/9/11
Better than
rooney..........Yes
Messi...........not better at the moment.
ronaldo........not better at the moment.
xavi..............probably
innesta........???.....if you mean iniesta then yes.
He's without doubt world class and your saying he isn't in the top 5 in the world just showsw you are a fool.
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He thinks Suarez will be better than Messi and Ronaldo in the future. "not better at the moment."
Aaah the rétard turdystan is back again I see.
Somewhere there's a village crying out for it's idiot....
Seriously after that comment just ask the admins to close your account.
Why do rétards always write 'seriously' before they post a load of verbal diarheoa..
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posted 16 hours, 9 minutes ago
comment by Sir Robert Paisley says(U3823)
posted on 4/9/11
Better than
rooney..........Yes
Messi...........not better at the moment.
ronaldo........not better at the moment.
xavi..............probably
innesta........???.....if you mean iniesta then yes.
He's without doubt world class and your saying he isn't in the top 5 in the world just showsw you are a fool.
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He thinks Suarez will be better than Messi and Ronaldo in the future. "not better at the moment."
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Even if you completely ignore the mentions of Ronaldo and Messi, it is still a stupid post.
Was it actually serious?
Why are people so quick to say Hazard and Cazorla are world class ?
Suarez is better at both club level and international. He plays for a weaker club side yet still manages to outshine them.
comment by Metro_ (U6770)
posted 26 seconds ago
Why are people so quick to say Hazard and Cazorla are world class ?
Suarez is better at both club level and international. He plays for a weaker club side yet still manages to outshine them.
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1. Who says they are world class?
2. Not sure that he has really outshone Cazorla. He has this season, but over the last few years? Not so sure.
comment by Metro_ (U6770)
posted 4 minutes ago
Why are people so quick to say Hazard and Cazorla are world class ?
Never heard ANYBODY call these two world class. Hazard has the potential, but they are both just good players for the time being. I'd actually rate Suarez as better than both at the moment, though Hazard looks a star in the making
Oh and Hazard scored and assisted 35 goals or something stupid last season, so he probably did outperform Suarez last season.
Oh and Hazard scored and assisted 35 goals or something stupid last season, so he probably did outperform Suarez last season.
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so we can use certain leagues to gauge ones class but not all ?
comment by Metro_ (U6770)
posted 1 minute ago
Oh and Hazard scored and assisted 35 goals or something stupid last season, so he probably did outperform Suarez last season.
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so we can use certain leagues to gauge ones class but not all ?
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I think that the French league is stronger than the Dutch league, but not as strong as the PL.
All you have to do is take a look at Suarez's return in comparison to Hazard's then adjust for the difference in quality.
Even then, it is subjective. Which is why BB used the word probably.
I think that the French league is stronger than the Dutch league
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highly subjective ?
dutch clubs have a better qualifying record in CL so maybe you're wrong
Probably
There is nothing wrong with having a very good player and him not being deemed in the top bracket of world players. So long as he is performing for you who cares?
Okay then even if Suarez outperformed the French Leagues Player of the Season (in your opinion, because he scored and assisted less than a midfielder) I still said he is currently in the better form if the two.
You aren't going to convince me he is world class unless you can pull up some unarguable stats, which you can't, so give up.
comment by Metro_ (U6770)
posted 6 minutes ago
I think that the French league is stronger than the Dutch league
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highly subjective ?
dutch clubs have a better qualifying record in CL so maybe you're wrong
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1. Is that data inclusive of every year since the CL was formed? If so, its not really the best way to measure how the two leagues compare against each other right now.
2. There are more teams in the French league that are competitive. The Dutch league tends to have just 2 good teams. So whilst they might be better than the two best in the French league, I think that the overall quality of Lique 1 has been higher in recent years.
You aren't going to convince me he is world class unless you can pull up some unarguable stats
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If a guy is the top performer in his own league and dominated his last international tournament - even winning the thing isn't enough to make you even consider him then fine. I've seen enough over a few years to suggest that Suarez would get in all club sides in the world
comment by Metro_ (U6770)
I've seen enough over a few years to suggest that Suarez would get in all club sides in the world
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As a starter?
one thing that gets completely overlooked is that he played on the right wing of a 4-2-3-1 in Holland. And still scored a mountain of goals. And half the time for country he gets played in a wide position. And the first year at Liverpool he played a wide role quite frequently.
Wide forward (Robben's position) is his best and natural place on the pitch. This striker thing is new for him.
comment by Metro_ (U6770)
posted 3 minutes ago
As a starter?
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yes
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No chance.
Maybe in the squad though.
If a guy is the top performer in his own league
RVP was so much better than Suarez last season. What were you watching?
and dominated his last international tournament
No he never, he was possibly the biggest let downs in the Olympics, he flopped vs a load of kids.
if liverpool don't get into the CL or even europe next season do you think suarez will stay?
comment by joely_the_goaly. (U15498)
posted 2 minutes ago
if liverpool don't get into the CL or even europe next season do you think suarez will stay?
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I think he will probably stay at least another season. The club, players and fans have backed him big time and I think he appreciates that. At least I hope he does.
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posted on 19/11/12
and you guys still think Suarez is world class who came up with this "Suarez is world class" thing anyway?
posted on 19/11/12
Think it was this guy....
......................................
comment by Sir Robert Paisley says(U3823)
posted on 4/9/11
Better than
rooney..........Yes
Messi...........not better at the moment.
ronaldo........not better at the moment.
xavi..............probably
innesta........???.....if you mean iniesta then yes.
He's without doubt world class and your saying he isn't in the top 5 in the world just showsw you are a fool.
..............................................
What tops it off is the fact that people who don't see what he does are the fools!
posted on 19/11/12
comment by Sir Robert Paisley says(U3823)
posted on 4/9/11
Better than
rooney..........Yes
Messi...........not better at the moment.
ronaldo........not better at the moment.
xavi..............probably
innesta........???.....if you mean iniesta then yes.
He's without doubt world class and your saying he isn't in the top 5 in the world just showsw you are a fool.
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He thinks Suarez will be better than Messi and Ronaldo in the future. "not better at the moment."
posted on 19/11/12
Aaah the rétard turdystan is back again I see.
Somewhere there's a village crying out for it's idiot....
posted on 20/11/12
Seriously after that comment just ask the admins to close your account.
posted on 20/11/12
Why do rétards always write 'seriously' before they post a load of verbal diarheoa..
posted on 20/11/12
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posted 16 hours, 9 minutes ago
comment by Sir Robert Paisley says(U3823)
posted on 4/9/11
Better than
rooney..........Yes
Messi...........not better at the moment.
ronaldo........not better at the moment.
xavi..............probably
innesta........???.....if you mean iniesta then yes.
He's without doubt world class and your saying he isn't in the top 5 in the world just showsw you are a fool.
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He thinks Suarez will be better than Messi and Ronaldo in the future. "not better at the moment."
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Even if you completely ignore the mentions of Ronaldo and Messi, it is still a stupid post.
Was it actually serious?
posted on 20/11/12
Why are people so quick to say Hazard and Cazorla are world class ?
Suarez is better at both club level and international. He plays for a weaker club side yet still manages to outshine them.
posted on 20/11/12
comment by Metro_ (U6770)
posted 26 seconds ago
Why are people so quick to say Hazard and Cazorla are world class ?
Suarez is better at both club level and international. He plays for a weaker club side yet still manages to outshine them.
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1. Who says they are world class?
2. Not sure that he has really outshone Cazorla. He has this season, but over the last few years? Not so sure.
posted on 20/11/12
comment by Metro_ (U6770)
posted 4 minutes ago
Why are people so quick to say Hazard and Cazorla are world class ?
Never heard ANYBODY call these two world class. Hazard has the potential, but they are both just good players for the time being. I'd actually rate Suarez as better than both at the moment, though Hazard looks a star in the making
posted on 20/11/12
Oh and Hazard scored and assisted 35 goals or something stupid last season, so he probably did outperform Suarez last season.
posted on 20/11/12
Oh and Hazard scored and assisted 35 goals or something stupid last season, so he probably did outperform Suarez last season.
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so we can use certain leagues to gauge ones class but not all ?
posted on 20/11/12
comment by Metro_ (U6770)
posted 1 minute ago
Oh and Hazard scored and assisted 35 goals or something stupid last season, so he probably did outperform Suarez last season.
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so we can use certain leagues to gauge ones class but not all ?
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I think that the French league is stronger than the Dutch league, but not as strong as the PL.
All you have to do is take a look at Suarez's return in comparison to Hazard's then adjust for the difference in quality.
Even then, it is subjective. Which is why BB used the word probably.
posted on 20/11/12
I think that the French league is stronger than the Dutch league
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highly subjective ?
dutch clubs have a better qualifying record in CL so maybe you're wrong
posted on 20/11/12
Probably
There is nothing wrong with having a very good player and him not being deemed in the top bracket of world players. So long as he is performing for you who cares?
posted on 20/11/12
Okay then even if Suarez outperformed the French Leagues Player of the Season (in your opinion, because he scored and assisted less than a midfielder) I still said he is currently in the better form if the two.
You aren't going to convince me he is world class unless you can pull up some unarguable stats, which you can't, so give up.
posted on 20/11/12
comment by Metro_ (U6770)
posted 6 minutes ago
I think that the French league is stronger than the Dutch league
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highly subjective ?
dutch clubs have a better qualifying record in CL so maybe you're wrong
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1. Is that data inclusive of every year since the CL was formed? If so, its not really the best way to measure how the two leagues compare against each other right now.
2. There are more teams in the French league that are competitive. The Dutch league tends to have just 2 good teams. So whilst they might be better than the two best in the French league, I think that the overall quality of Lique 1 has been higher in recent years.
posted on 20/11/12
You aren't going to convince me he is world class unless you can pull up some unarguable stats
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If a guy is the top performer in his own league and dominated his last international tournament - even winning the thing isn't enough to make you even consider him then fine. I've seen enough over a few years to suggest that Suarez would get in all club sides in the world
posted on 20/11/12
comment by Metro_ (U6770)
I've seen enough over a few years to suggest that Suarez would get in all club sides in the world
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As a starter?
posted on 20/11/12
As a starter?
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yes
posted on 20/11/12
one thing that gets completely overlooked is that he played on the right wing of a 4-2-3-1 in Holland. And still scored a mountain of goals. And half the time for country he gets played in a wide position. And the first year at Liverpool he played a wide role quite frequently.
Wide forward (Robben's position) is his best and natural place on the pitch. This striker thing is new for him.
posted on 20/11/12
comment by Metro_ (U6770)
posted 3 minutes ago
As a starter?
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yes
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No chance.
Maybe in the squad though.
posted on 20/11/12
If a guy is the top performer in his own league
RVP was so much better than Suarez last season. What were you watching?
and dominated his last international tournament
No he never, he was possibly the biggest let downs in the Olympics, he flopped vs a load of kids.
posted on 20/11/12
if liverpool don't get into the CL or even europe next season do you think suarez will stay?
posted on 20/11/12
comment by joely_the_goaly. (U15498)
posted 2 minutes ago
if liverpool don't get into the CL or even europe next season do you think suarez will stay?
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I think he will probably stay at least another season. The club, players and fans have backed him big time and I think he appreciates that. At least I hope he does.
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