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comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 8/3/13

Gerrard didn't do the same, he did worse. He caught Brown with his elbow, not his forearm. He did it from behind, not the front. There was no mitigating circumstances ie. the opponent stepping in front of him. The force of his swing was greater than Rooney's.

You laughably stated that Rooney could have killed McCarthy. Well, if that is the case, Michael Brown was lucky not be decapitated. Gerrard should have got at least a 20 game ban going on your scale. Then another 30 games for his elbow on Welbeck last season.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 8/3/13

At one end of the spectrum TOOR describes Nani's injury as a scratch, at the other end Rooney's forearm with little force could have killed a man.

posted on 8/3/13

comment by Statman John (U7425) posted 4 minutes ago
Gerrard didn't do the same, he did worse. He caught Brown with his elbow, not his forearm. He did it from behind, not the front. There was no mitigating circumstances ie. the opponent stepping in front of him. The force of his swing was greater than Rooney's.

You laughably stated that Rooney could have killed McCarthy. Well, if that is the case, Michael Brown was lucky not be decapitated. Gerrard should have got at least a 20 game ban going on your scale. Then another 30 games for his elbow on Welbeck last season.
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If Gerrard did worse, then he should have been punished. I'm not sure what you want here. Maybe you were hoping for me to defend Gerrard, be a hypocrite, then we could go on for pages about how one is worse than the other? I don't know.

posted on 8/3/13

comment by Statman John (U7425) posted 2 minutes ago
At one end of the spectrum TOOR describes Nani's injury as a scratch, at the other end Rooney's forearm with little force could have killed a man.
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I've never heard a scratch on the leg killing a man, no matter how he cries but I have heard of elbows to the head killing people.

posted on 8/3/13

Michael Brown was lucky not be decapitated.


I've heard of a scratch on the leg killing a man, you need to watch discovery channel.

when a dirty animal (carragher) scratches you, it could cause an infection and kill you

posted on 8/3/13

Essien on Hamman was really nasty

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 8/3/13

comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Statman John (U7425) posted 2 minutes ago
At one end of the spectrum TOOR describes Nani's injury as a scratch, at the other end Rooney's forearm with little force could have killed a man.
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I've never heard a scratch on the leg killing a man, no matter how he cries but I have heard of elbows to the head killing people.
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Lets be honest here, you are exaggerating both to suit your agenda. Nani's was more than a scratch - I'd probably call it a gash. It did need stitches. Still, that doesn't excuse the way he behaved on the pitch, which was a bit embarrassing.

Rooney didn't elbow McCarhty and even if he had the force with which he swung his arm was in no way going to kill anyone.

posted on 8/3/13

I've never heard a scratch on the leg killing a man, no matter how he cries but I have heard of elbows to the head killing people
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My friends son in law nearly lost his life from a scatch to his leg form playing football, somehow it got infected and some flesh eating bug got in there, it was touch and go he also had his leg amputated just below the hip, i thought you always stated facts!!!

posted on 8/3/13

I think Statman got it right there

posted on 8/3/13

comment by Statman John (U7425) posted 7 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Statman John (U7425) posted 2 minutes ago
At one end of the spectrum TOOR describes Nani's injury as a scratch, at the other end Rooney's forearm with little force could have killed a man.
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I've never heard a scratch on the leg killing a man, no matter how he cries but I have heard of elbows to the head killing people.
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Lets be honest here, you are exaggerating both to suit your agenda. Nani's was more than a scratch - I'd probably call it a gash. It did need stitches. Still, that doesn't excuse the way he behaved on the pitch, which was a bit embarrassing.

Rooney didn't elbow McCarhty and even if he had the force with which he swung his arm was in no way going to kill anyone.
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Yes, it needed stiches, it was a scratch, suffered as Carraghers' studs scratched down his leg. It was a scratch. It wouldn't keep you out of any games, that's for sure, as evidenced with him coming right back in, despite United trying to overplay it saying he'd be out for a month.

Yes, I'm exaggerating Rooney's elbow, of course, I know the chances of him killing a man with it are low but it's simply to get my point across, how bad it was in comparison to other things which are punished much worse.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 8/3/13

I'd say that Carra's tackle on Nani has a greater chance of causing a serious injury than Rooney's forearm, which you keep describing as an elbow, despite the fact his elbow did not in any way come into contact with McCarthy. But you know that.

posted on 8/3/13

Diego Lopez could have taken vidics head off, he escaped unpunished.

nani scratched arbeloas arm, he gets sent off the pitch.
arbeloa studded evras thigh, gets a yellow card.
varane takes out evra last man, goes unpunished.
Ramos fouls non stop in the first leg yet only receives one yellow
Ramos takes out evra in the box, no penalty.
ref blows whistle when we should have a corner.
Madrid players got away with murder in both legs

posted on 8/3/13

comment by Statman John (U7425) posted 3 minutes ago
I'd say that Carra's tackle on Nani has a greater chance of causing a serious injury than Rooney's forearm, which you keep describing as an elbow, despite the fact his elbow did not in any way come into contact with McCarthy. But you know that.
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Since when does a leg injury have more potential to serious damage someone than an elbow to the head? Ah yes, when it's a United player who does the elbow. Got it.

posted on 8/3/13

comment by Greg- (U1192) posted 3 minutes ago
Diego Lopez could have taken vidics head off, he escaped unpunished.

nani scratched arbeloas arm, he gets sent off the pitch.
arbeloa studded evras thigh, gets a yellow card.
varane takes out evra last man, goes unpunished.
Ramos fouls non stop in the first leg yet only receives one yellow
Ramos takes out evra in the box, no penalty.
ref blows whistle when we should have a corner.
Madrid players got away with murder in both legs
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Wow, still going on about it. You were beaten by a better team. Get over it.

comment by Jay. (U16498)

posted on 8/3/13

Wow, still going on about it. You were beaten by a better team. Get over it.

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No, we weren't. As has been pointed out numerous times, for 75 minutes of that match, total, we were the better side. Madrid took advantage of an incorrect decision by the referee, and that ultimately decided the game.

You'll find that most United fans were prepared to lose, provided we gave a good account of ourselves, and lost in a manner befitting of the game we were playing. That wasn't the case.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 8/3/13

comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Statman John (U7425) posted 3 minutes ago
I'd say that Carra's tackle on Nani has a greater chance of causing a serious injury than Rooney's forearm, which you keep describing as an elbow, despite the fact his elbow did not in any way come into contact with McCarthy. But you know that.
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Since when does a leg injury have more potential to serious damage someone than an elbow to the head? Ah yes, when it's a United player who does the elbow. Got it.
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Very simplistic way of looking at it TOOR. You have to take into the account the force of each movement. Rooney's forearm on McCarthy had little force. So little in fact that McCarthy didn't even go down.

Carra went over the top of the ball and caught Nani's planted leg about halfway up the shin. Carra's leg was locked and he went in with some force.

It isn't too hard to work out which action had the most potential to cause a serious injury.

posted on 8/3/13

Wow, still going on about it. You were beaten by a better team. Get over it.
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Isn't this thread about controversial decisions yet you turn it into a murder case and how Rooney should be trialed In court for attempted murder and how nani Just received a scratch......

posted on 8/3/13

I gave a controversial decision, just because you don't like it, doesn't mean you have to whine throughout the thread about it, Greg.

posted on 8/3/13

Toor

Since when does a leg injury have more potential to serious damage someone than an elbow to the head
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Infection???

posted on 8/3/13

comment by RED666 (U6562) posted 17 minutes ago

I've never heard a scratch on the leg killing a man, no matter how he cries but I have heard of elbows to the head killing people
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My friends son in law nearly lost his life from a scatch to his leg form playing football, somehow it got infected and some flesh eating bug got in there, it was touch and go he also had his leg amputated just below the hip, i thought you always stated facts!!!
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A flesh eating bug? What is this, Men in Black 5?

posted on 8/3/13

any wound that requires stitiches cannot be described as a scratch

posted on 8/3/13

"comment by Jay MUFC (U16498) posted 5 minutes ago
Wow, still going on about it. You were beaten by a better team. Get over it.

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No, we weren't. As has been pointed out numerous times, for 75 minutes of that match, total, we were the better side."

No you weren't. You parked the bus in both legs and the team who went out to play football won.

Just stop whining about it, it's over. Deal with it.

posted on 8/3/13

comment by blabla (U11635) posted 28 seconds ago
any wound that requires stitiches cannot be described as a scratch
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Who said? You?

Please.

posted on 8/3/13

Toor

I gave a controversial decision, just because you don't like it, doesn't mean you have to whine throughout the thread about it, Greg
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And yet your first post was to try and pick holes in my comment and not offer anything to do with the article

posted on 8/3/13

I work in a hospital and scratches get stitched very frequently. It's just to help the healing process and stop infection.

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