"Dubbed
Xavi no
Alsonso yes
Biscuits yes
Modric no
Cesc no
Schweinsteiger no
Pirlo yes
You seriously have no clue about carrick
VC is right, it's pointless discussing this with you. You don't have the first clue"
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WTF? Did I really just read that?
That's up there with the 'Suarez is better than Xavi and Iniesta' comment
Carrick having better technique than Xavi. That is actually the most stupid thing I have ever heard.
comment by ☺ Wumpatrol - Just give up on catching Tottnumb (U5046)
posted 20 seconds ago
Carrick having better technique than Xavi. That is actually the most stupid thing I have ever heard.
....................
I can only think of one clot on our board who would say such a thing.
Carrick isn't in the same technical class as Xavi. Not even close, and I highly rate Carrick as a player.
I doubt even Rob would say that. And I doubt that Macca has even said as such.
Dazza
I know Macca wouldn't have said it.
Asked about which players have better technique than Carrick, that is actually what he posted.
comment by ☺ Wumpatrol - Just give up on catching Tottnumb (U5046)
posted 2 minutes ago
Asked about which players have better technique than Carrick, that is actually what he posted.
............
Who posted it?
It looks to me as if he was disagreeing that those players play in the same position as Carrick.
If that's not the case then he's well wide of the mark.
http://www.joe.ie/football/videos/video-its-just-like-watching-barcelona-greek-youth-team-score-unbelievable-team-goal/
This is brilliant. My goal of the season. This is the sort of football we should be teaching our kids, not the kick and rush, get rid of it style. Coaching needs to change drastically. It doesn't help that the FA employ the likes of Hodgson and Pearce in the main national positions.
Although Rodgers gets a lot of stick for his Brent-esque chat, he is exactly the sort of coach we want to see more of in this country.
UnitedRedMacca-The Ralph Milne of The JA606 Manchester United Pun Team (U2024)
posted 20 hours, 41 minutes ago
Dubbed
Xavi no
Alsonso yes
Biscuits yes
Modric no
Cesc no
Schweinsteiger no
Pirlo yes
You seriously have no clue about carrick
VC is right, it's pointless discussing this with you. You don't have the first clue
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Don't know whether he meant 'yes' carrick is better than Xavi, or 'no' he's not. Either way, given the players he has listed, it makes no difference.
Technically Carrick is not better than any of them, even Busquets, to suggest otherwise is hilarious (and to use an often misused ja606 term), utterly deluded.
Carrick is brilliant. For me as good as Busquets. But Xavi is a step above.
No, not even as good as Biscuits. Tactically, biscuits is the best player I have seen in a looong time! And Xavi is more than just a step above. Have you ever seen how that guy creates space for himself by turning quickly with the ball? Amazing! Have never seen anything like it!
Wum
I rate Xavi a lot. But 'step above' is just a term that could mean anything. But yeah, Xavi for me isn't peerless.
As for Busquets. He is very good but Carrick is so underrated it's unbelievable so excuse me for not having this debate with someone who is one of his underraters!
I don't underrate Carrick in fact I think without him, you wouldn't have won the title last year or at least not by much. Thing is United fans tend to overrate him in absurd ways as seen by Maccas comment. If you want to see what I am talking about with Biscuits, look for his highlights of the Barca-Atletico 1st leg league game and tell me whether you have seen a better tactical performance. The way he dispossed them and made space to spray the ball to other players was out of this world. Of course that is just 1 game, but he does that very often and for me that was his best game in a Barca shirt.
What "technical class" is Carrick in then, Vidicshin, you pleb? I've been dying to know.
You've just been sitting on the sidelines throwing insults.
Carrick has gone from 'underrated' to 'overrated' in the past couple of months.
He's always been a good player. But as one can see on here for example, couple of guys actually believe he's elite level.
Carrick isn't as good as Busquets. Still a quality midfielder, though.
He's been unfortunate to have been paired with so many different (as well as not good enough) partners at United.
Agreed Darren. Wenger wasn't crazy when he said that he wouldn't look out of place in the Barca midfield.
Carrick isn't even that much better than Arteta. Same level. Just a good player.
He's been playing in a settled team with an excellent manager.
Wum
Watch Carricks performance against Mourinhos Inter Milan in 2009. The perfect midfield performance.
Carrick is underrated and overrated at the same time. He is underrated by those who want a swashbuckling, goalscoring, creative central midfielder. He is equally overrated by people that appreciate what he does, but try to put him in the same category as Pirlo, Xavi, Alonso and Schweinsteiger.
He is a very good central midfielder that we don't see often enough in England but we do see on the continent. We love the swashbuckling midfielder like Gerrard, the wear your heart on a sleeve midfielder like Parker (who is awful) or the goalscoring midfielder like Lampard. We don't appreciate a player like Carrick. By we I mean the media. We as fans do appreciate what he does. He should be an England starter in mu opinion but he's not the level as those i've mentioned before.
FJM
Carrick is much better than Arteta.
FatJan
I agree with most of what you say but I strongly disagree about Alonso. The guy has been very poor over the past 3 years where Carrick has just gotten better.
But you do make some other great points.
Definitely better than Arteta.
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posted on 12/6/13
"Dubbed
Xavi no
Alsonso yes
Biscuits yes
Modric no
Cesc no
Schweinsteiger no
Pirlo yes
You seriously have no clue about carrick
VC is right, it's pointless discussing this with you. You don't have the first clue"
====
WTF? Did I really just read that?
That's up there with the 'Suarez is better than Xavi and Iniesta' comment
posted on 12/6/13
Carrick having better technique than Xavi. That is actually the most stupid thing I have ever heard.
posted on 12/6/13
comment by ☺ Wumpatrol - Just give up on catching Tottnumb (U5046)
posted 20 seconds ago
Carrick having better technique than Xavi. That is actually the most stupid thing I have ever heard.
....................
I can only think of one clot on our board who would say such a thing.
Carrick isn't in the same technical class as Xavi. Not even close, and I highly rate Carrick as a player.
posted on 12/6/13
I doubt even Rob would say that. And I doubt that Macca has even said as such.
posted on 12/6/13
Dazza
I know Macca wouldn't have said it.
posted on 12/6/13
Asked about which players have better technique than Carrick, that is actually what he posted.
posted on 12/6/13
comment by ☺ Wumpatrol - Just give up on catching Tottnumb (U5046)
posted 2 minutes ago
Asked about which players have better technique than Carrick, that is actually what he posted.
............
Who posted it?
posted on 12/6/13
It looks to me as if he was disagreeing that those players play in the same position as Carrick.
If that's not the case then he's well wide of the mark.
posted on 12/6/13
http://www.joe.ie/football/videos/video-its-just-like-watching-barcelona-greek-youth-team-score-unbelievable-team-goal/
This is brilliant. My goal of the season. This is the sort of football we should be teaching our kids, not the kick and rush, get rid of it style. Coaching needs to change drastically. It doesn't help that the FA employ the likes of Hodgson and Pearce in the main national positions.
Although Rodgers gets a lot of stick for his Brent-esque chat, he is exactly the sort of coach we want to see more of in this country.
posted on 12/6/13
UnitedRedMacca-The Ralph Milne of The JA606 Manchester United Pun Team (U2024)
posted 20 hours, 41 minutes ago
Dubbed
Xavi no
Alsonso yes
Biscuits yes
Modric no
Cesc no
Schweinsteiger no
Pirlo yes
You seriously have no clue about carrick
VC is right, it's pointless discussing this with you. You don't have the first clue
-------------
Don't know whether he meant 'yes' carrick is better than Xavi, or 'no' he's not. Either way, given the players he has listed, it makes no difference.
Technically Carrick is not better than any of them, even Busquets, to suggest otherwise is hilarious (and to use an often misused ja606 term), utterly deluded.
posted on 12/6/13
Carrick is brilliant. For me as good as Busquets. But Xavi is a step above.
posted on 12/6/13
No, not even as good as Biscuits. Tactically, biscuits is the best player I have seen in a looong time! And Xavi is more than just a step above. Have you ever seen how that guy creates space for himself by turning quickly with the ball? Amazing! Have never seen anything like it!
posted on 12/6/13
Wum
I rate Xavi a lot. But 'step above' is just a term that could mean anything. But yeah, Xavi for me isn't peerless.
As for Busquets. He is very good but Carrick is so underrated it's unbelievable so excuse me for not having this debate with someone who is one of his underraters!
posted on 12/6/13
*is peerless.
posted on 12/6/13
I don't underrate Carrick in fact I think without him, you wouldn't have won the title last year or at least not by much. Thing is United fans tend to overrate him in absurd ways as seen by Maccas comment. If you want to see what I am talking about with Biscuits, look for his highlights of the Barca-Atletico 1st leg league game and tell me whether you have seen a better tactical performance. The way he dispossed them and made space to spray the ball to other players was out of this world. Of course that is just 1 game, but he does that very often and for me that was his best game in a Barca shirt.
posted on 12/6/13
What "technical class" is Carrick in then, Vidicshin, you pleb? I've been dying to know.
You've just been sitting on the sidelines throwing insults.
posted on 12/6/13
Carrick has gone from 'underrated' to 'overrated' in the past couple of months.
He's always been a good player. But as one can see on here for example, couple of guys actually believe he's elite level.
posted on 12/6/13
Carrick isn't as good as Busquets. Still a quality midfielder, though.
He's been unfortunate to have been paired with so many different (as well as not good enough) partners at United.
posted on 12/6/13
Agreed Darren. Wenger wasn't crazy when he said that he wouldn't look out of place in the Barca midfield.
posted on 12/6/13
Carrick isn't even that much better than Arteta. Same level. Just a good player.
He's been playing in a settled team with an excellent manager.
posted on 12/6/13
Wum
Watch Carricks performance against Mourinhos Inter Milan in 2009. The perfect midfield performance.
posted on 12/6/13
Carrick is underrated and overrated at the same time. He is underrated by those who want a swashbuckling, goalscoring, creative central midfielder. He is equally overrated by people that appreciate what he does, but try to put him in the same category as Pirlo, Xavi, Alonso and Schweinsteiger.
He is a very good central midfielder that we don't see often enough in England but we do see on the continent. We love the swashbuckling midfielder like Gerrard, the wear your heart on a sleeve midfielder like Parker (who is awful) or the goalscoring midfielder like Lampard. We don't appreciate a player like Carrick. By we I mean the media. We as fans do appreciate what he does. He should be an England starter in mu opinion but he's not the level as those i've mentioned before.
posted on 12/6/13
FJM
Carrick is much better than Arteta.
posted on 12/6/13
FatJan
I agree with most of what you say but I strongly disagree about Alonso. The guy has been very poor over the past 3 years where Carrick has just gotten better.
But you do make some other great points.
posted on 12/6/13
Definitely better than Arteta.
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