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Kennedy assassination- Conspiracy or not?

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posted on 14/11/13

The building collapsed inwards with shows massive failure of internal supporting structures. The supporting structures were the floors and it wasn't strong enough.


http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/jom/0112/eagar/eagar-0112.html

posted on 14/11/13

Really, people believe this was a controlled explosion? People need to look at how the building was designed and how the temperature of the fires weakened the steel structure. No need for them to be melted, just depending on size and shape factor enough to buckle under the loads placed on them

posted on 14/11/13

No need for them to be melted, just depending on size and shape factor heated enough to buckle under the loads placed on them.

posted on 14/11/13

Conspiracy theorists don't help themselves by going out of their way to look and act like lunatics.

posted on 14/11/13

comment by Jalisco Red - Space Monkey Mafia (U4195)
posted 9 minutes ago
Conspiracy theorists don't help themselves by going out of their way to look and act like lunatics.

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Openly dismissing a debunk to the theory doesn't help matters.

A good example. Metro claims that the US Government had left the Eastern Seaboard defenceless.

This is easilly debunked. I know of at least one US Air Force base that definately had Aircraft in the air that day.

Andrews.

posted on 14/11/13

Again, I told you about my golf partner
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Well we can't argue with that can we

posted on 14/11/13

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Jalisco Red - Space Monkey Mafia (U4195)
posted 9 minutes ago
Conspiracy theorists don't help themselves by going out of their way to look and act like lunatics.

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Openly dismissing a debunk to the theory doesn't help matters.

A good example. Metro claims that the US Government had left the Eastern Seaboard defenceless.

This is easilly debunked. I know of at least one US Air Force base that definately had Aircraft in the air that day.

Andrews.
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You completely miss the point on this point don't you.

comment by WTCBU (U13662)

posted on 14/11/13

I believe that Oswald acted alone.

I think these points have already been made by other posts. Oswald was an expert marksman, he seldom missed his target. All sniper rifles are bolt action. Oswald fired 3 shots over a period of 8 secs. During the First World War, the standard fire rate for British infantry was 15 aimed shots every minute using standard Lee Enfield 303 bolt action rifles.

Jack Ruby did not have a clue about Oswald being in the police station that day. He was there due to a set of circumstances totally unplanned. One of his dancing girls asked Ruby to wire her some money to pay her rent. He took his pet dog along to American Express and queued up to wire The money.

When he came outside he saw the press congregating outside the police station and asked what was happening. It was only then that he discovered that is was Oswald being taken to court. This was at 10.00 AM. Oswald was due to appear in court at 9.00 AM but requested a change of clothes.

White People in Dallas carry guns.

Moon rock did not come from Blackpool. Diana death was the clearest case of a straight forward traffic accident ever. She would have survived if she had put her seatbelt on. 9/11 the two most difficult and dangerous procedures that a trained pilot carries out is take off and landing. Crashing is relatively easy.

Anything else that I have missed?

posted on 14/11/13

Anything else that I have missed?
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Your brain perhaps

posted on 14/11/13

comment by Metro_1 (U6770)
posted 3 minutes ago
Anything else that I have missed?
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Your brain perhaps

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Oh dear........

posted on 14/11/13

VC - is this radio DJ you?

http://youtu.be/tE3pMPObcGU

posted on 14/11/13

WTCBU

Could you clear up who started the Reichstag fire and whether the Jacobean state knew about the Gunpowder Plot?

posted on 14/11/13

comment by Metro_1 (U6770)
posted 1 minute ago
VC - is this radio DJ you?

http://youtu.be/tE3pMPObcGU

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I think the caller is you.....Fuel not hot enough to melt steel....

posted on 14/11/13

Anything else that I have missed?

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Yes. Please debunk the theory that United always get all the decisions because they have been paying off refs for years. That is one for the real tin foil hat brigade.

posted on 14/11/13

Bleeding el Arouna don't milk it

It can't by the way

comment by WTCBU (U13662)

posted on 14/11/13

United can not afford to pay off refs. United fans have their bank accounts debited to pay the interest on the huge loans that some yanks managed to con you.

Germans are more efficient than Brits. They succeeded in burning down their parliament and we failed to burn down ours.

Next.

posted on 14/11/13

the pentagon crash site. the conspiracy theorists claim it wasn't flight 77 but a missile despite the fact you have overwhelming physical evidence pointing to the fact it's flight 77 ie plane debris, forensic debis of the victims, cockpit recorder and yet CT will still claim it was a missile despite having no evidence whatsoever

comment by TUX (U5315)

posted on 14/11/13

Kennedy assassination- Conspiracy or not?
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Yep. Along with many, many others.

posted on 14/11/13

the conspiracy theorists claim
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So you're grouping people who doubt the official story as one group with one shared view

Tut tut tut - people can be on both sides of this debate but please don't insult people by suggesting one view suits all

posted on 14/11/13

so for the record metro was it flight 77 that hit the pentagon?

posted on 14/11/13

Tut tut tut - people can be on both sides of this debate but please don't insult people by suggesting one view suits all

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That's the thing though. There's no one coherent conspiracy in any of these things, just a load of lonely, intellectually malnourished maniacs looking for an argument and contradicting each other in the process.

posted on 15/11/13

Regarding the JFK assassination it's pretty clear that the Lee Harvey Oswald theory is the conspiracy and the grassy knoll theory is what actually happened.

The trajectory of JFK's body after the impact of the bullet was clearly caused by a shot from his right rather than from the book depository behind him.

I also think just because someone has an alternate theory on a version of events (not just huge events) doesn't mean they're a loon or a whacko.

The likes of Pythagoras, Magellan and Archimedes were deemed "crazy" in their day but were proved to be on the money.

posted on 15/11/13

Fair points, bruceandpally.

But I've never seen an interview with Pythagoras, Magellan or Archimedes. The people I've seen talking about 9/11 and 7/7 conspiracies look like there's nothing behind their eyes other than a desperate yearning to be listened to by somebody, anybody.

posted on 15/11/13

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posted on 15/11/13

Cia invented al cia da- been working this angle for years. 9-11 was terrorists...but working for special interests. People..read the news... the american government are currently running the same people throughout the middle east/africa. Can you not feel the tension around the world....we are on the edge of something big happening.

World politics/ecomonics is the new cocaine.


Oh i gotta laugh at the conspiacy theory abuse...this forum is one big conspiacy theory.

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