I clearly acknowledged being wrong about benteke.

Amusing you don't acknowledge me being right about lovren though, I suppose that supports your "doesn't fit my narrative" tendencies though.

The stats do establish the fact he is good going forward, having better stats over two years than his peers does establish he is better than them at it.

To say that's not true is ludicrous, and probably pretty hypocritical, unless you go through your daily life ignoring statistical fact which I find highly unlikely.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, it's when you state your opinion as fact with no solid evidence that you become a liar.

Seeing as moreno does register some of the highest assist, chance and clear cut chances in the league compared to his peers proves he is good at attacking.

To refute that because "my eyes" is ridiculous.

The usage of stats as the be all and end all is ridiculous. Just as ridiculous is the complete dismissal of them. Of course what you see can tell you other things stats can't but also you can have a pre-determined opinion which can make you block out the good and only concentrate on the bad.

The simple fact is we employ Moreno to attack, to be our width down the left as Coutinho cuts inside, this means if play breaks down he can be caught upfield, which happens a lot and causes problems defensively when his pace isn't enough to get him back in time. However offensively it creates space for Coutinho to cut inside as the opposition right back has to go out to Moreno.

He also lunges in a lot of the time which sometimes causes a problem, like a penalty against but often it wins possession. I heard Gary Neville criticise him for lunging in, when he put in a great tackle. This is an example of wanting to see the bad but not the good.

I don't think the term 'well established' has ever been used so narrowly.

Stats are about context. Accepting some stats and rejecting others doesn't make anyone a hypocrite.

I don't think you being 'right' about Lovren is anything to do with stats.

This is all just the stubborn immaturity of some posters again, can't accept they might be wrong, can't accept that In the context of Premier league fullbacks he's one of the best in terms of attacking.
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This 'everyone who disagrees with me is immature' routine is getting pretty tiresome. You really need to get your head out of your backside. He is nowhere near as good as you're claiming. The vast majority are using what they've seen on the pitch to come to the conclusion that his final ball isn't as good as you claim. Chances created is meaningless if it's not a good goal scoring opportunity. Your argument that maybe we've all missed his fantastic balls is lame. If they were that good we'd all be in agreement, or are you the only one that sees these balls?

It's looking like there's only one person that can't accept they're wrong.....

Seeing as moreno does register some of the highest assist, chance and clear cut chances in the league compared to his peers proves he is good at attacking.
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Clear cut chances? I've not seen that stat. Have you just added that one?

comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 1 minute ago
This is all just the stubborn immaturity of some posters again, can't accept they might be wrong, can't accept that In the context of Premier league fullbacks he's one of the best in terms of attacking.
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This 'everyone who disagrees with me is immature' routine is getting pretty tiresome. You really need to get your head out of your backside. He is nowhere near as good as you're claiming. The vast majority are using what they've seen on the pitch to come to the conclusion that his final ball isn't as good as you claim. Chances created is meaningless if it's not a good goal scoring opportunity. Your argument that maybe we've all missed his fantastic balls is lame. If they were that good we'd all be in agreement, or are you the only one that sees these balls?

It's looking like there's only one person that can't accept they're wrong.....
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Its as if the herd mentality of scapegoating refuse to look for evidence outside their narrow view.

The fact is that whatever you think of the % of his balls that are "quality chances" he creates a HIGHER VOLUME of them than other fullbacks in the league.

Thats what matters, also considering he has one of the best long passing %s in the league for fullbacks you would assume that the majority of them at least get to one of our players.

Which even if you want to use your anti moreno bias to suggest our players pick it up on the other cornerflag is preferable to what other fullbacks are doing, namely giving away possession.

perhaps you will find this an interesting read:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance

particularly the Belief disconfirmation paradigm section

comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 1 minute ago
This is all just the stubborn immaturity of some posters again, can't accept they might be wrong, can't accept that In the context of Premier league fullbacks he's one of the best in terms of attacking.
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This 'everyone who disagrees with me is immature' routine is getting pretty tiresome. You really need to get your head out of your backside. He is nowhere near as good as you're claiming. The vast majority are using what they've seen on the pitch to come to the conclusion that his final ball isn't as good as you claim. Chances created is meaningless if it's not a good goal scoring opportunity. Your argument that maybe we've all missed his fantastic balls is lame. If they were that good we'd all be in agreement, or are you the only one that sees these balls?

It's looking like there's only one person that can't accept they're wrong.....
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Its as if the herd mentality of scapegoating refuse to look for evidence outside their narrow view.

The fact is that whatever you think of the % of his balls that are "quality chances" he creates a HIGHER VOLUME of them than other fullbacks in the league.

Thats what matters, also considering he has one of the best long passing %s in the league for fullbacks you would assume that the majority of them at least get to one of our players.

Which even if you want to use your anti moreno bias to suggest our players pick it up on the other cornerflag is preferable to what other fullbacks are doing, namely giving away possession.

perhaps you will find this an interesting read:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance

particularly the Belief disconfirmation paradigm section
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Maybe you should check this out......

https://www.drugs.com/cg/narcissistic-personality-disorder.html

comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 6 minutes ago

Maybe you should check this out......

https://www.drugs.com/cg/narcissistic-personality-disorder.html
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I wouldnt say you were a narcissist Term,

Just an aggressive narrow minded imbecile.

hence why youve probably missed the point of my link, that being in "herd agreement" doesnt change fact, as people actively seek out those who agree with them in the modern world, because it hurts their feelings to be wrong

comment by The Facking Happy Gaffer Pranks (U6283)
posted 6 minutes ago

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Was laughing at terms comment not the one above ffs

What's the latest on mane

Moreno injured Mane which proved he was in position. Debate over.

Moreno could make for a great Robben-esque cut inside winger.

Sky Sports have just confirmed its just a muscle injury for Mane, not a dislocation, which is good news. Still not sure how long he will be out for though.

comment by Fear Me Neo (U9135)
posted 2 minutes ago
Sky Sports have just confirmed its just a muscle injury for Mane, not a dislocation, which is good news. Still not sure how long he will be out for though.
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cheers neo

Also classic Term

Mahrez has signed a new contract with Leicester.

Cue Arsenal board breakdown in 3..2..1..

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Sky said maximum of one game

comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 6 minutes ago

Maybe you should check this out......

https://www.drugs.com/cg/narcissistic-personality-disorder.html
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I wouldnt say you were a narcissist Term,

Just an aggressive narrow minded imbecile.

hence why youve probably missed the point of my link, that being in "herd agreement" doesnt change fact, as people actively seek out those who agree with them in the modern world, because it hurts their feelings to be wrong
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Fecking hell, when I do it I'm an aggressive imbecile. When the Harvard, Yale, Oxford and Cambridge graduate does it, it's because he's a mature intellectual

And anyone who disagrees with you is guilty of herd mentality, because the great IRU couldn't possibly be wrong. You sir are a grade A, prime specimen Narcissist

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comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 3 hours, 38 minutes ago
It's a long time to elapse, to require three touches there's no way it's central with just the keeper to beat,

However in your extremely unlikely situation that would be a judgement call based on the company doing the analysis (who have teams of people recording then reviewing the statistics) but as a general rule there is a touch limit below which there wouldn't be a review,

Instead the midfielder would get a "key pass" awarded to them
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Do you not remember Milan Baros? He always, ALWAYS took a million touches for no reason!

have we decided if Moreno is $hite yet? I need to know what my opinion on the matter is