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comment by Neo (U9135)

posted on 6/4/21

The Athletic saying that Southampton want to sign Neco Williams. God I hope it’s true.

posted on 6/4/21

comment by Fred Klopp (U3979)
posted 12 minutes ago
I actually don't think Trent goes to the Euros. Which is an absolute farce but he's not the media golden boy he once was so Southgate won't pick him.
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To be honest every pundit has said that Trent should be in the squad if not the team. It's just some Waistcoat expert who has no idea.

comment by Szoboss (U6997)

posted on 6/4/21

comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 55 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 13 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted about 3 hours ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 5 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 12 minutes ago
Not sure why people have such a low opinion of agents, they're just recruitment consultants.

If you want access to the best people for the job then you may well have to pay for it, or you can save that money and get someone not as good.

Agents will get the best deal for the player and quite often for the selling club too. On top of that they will have a big say in the buyer getting what they want also, which is the player and his skills.

It's not fluke that we spend so much on agent fees but regularly secure good players for Klopp.
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I use recruiters, not because the standard of employee is necessarily better but it's just more consistent. You will get high quality candidate 9 time out of 10 with recruiter, direct advertising? 5/6 times maybe.

The difference imo is that the recruiter is working for the bill-payer (and themselves obviously) in sourcing the type of candidate you need and want.

With clubs, it's scouting networks that do much of the sourcing of players. Agents, from what I can tell, are working primarily for the player and then trying to get a good price for the selling club. And yet it's the buying club that foots the bill (from what I understand).

Agents would make much more sense to me if it was the player that paid the bill. Or even the selling club paid a %. Because it's their interests the agent looks after. But it's just become an accepted part of football.

Where I think it become very underhand is agents unsettling players or talking to the press to either get an improved contract or a move - another pay day basically. Brokering a move I can just about see why it happens (every club benefits as a seller at some point) but the disruption is difficult to accept as a fan.

posted on 6/4/21

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posted on 6/4/21

A few excuses that I have heard is about tournament experience, which Trippier has, but by that logic I'd take TAA over James. But he would take James as he's more solid defensively.

On an article a bit ago somebody said that International football is slower/more defensive than club football. Whilst true, with all the attacking talent, flair and energy we have in this squad, why don't we just use that as our identity.

posted on 6/4/21

comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 11 minutes ago
I'd have TAA in the squad and probably the team, but he hasn't had a good game for England yet. He is very much suited to how we play, one of our most important attacking players but England don't play that way. Southgate would have worked with him every day with how he wants him to play and he obviously isn't doing something right. I personally don't see what Trippier gives that TAA doesn't. Defensively and going forward but Trippier has earnt Southgates trust.
Some players are outstanding for club and never replicate that form at international level. Some players look better at international level than club.
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Hes not really been given a run of games though has he. As soon as Walker was dropped after World Cup then Southgate opted for Trippier to continue and now recently it has been James. Trent has been the best right back in the world but waistcoat man has his favourites.

posted on 6/4/21

comment by (K̇ash) I'm the Mané - PL Champione (U1108)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Fred Klopp (U3979)
posted 12 minutes ago
I actually don't think Trent goes to the Euros. Which is an absolute farce but he's not the media golden boy he once was so Southgate won't pick him.
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To be honest every pundit has said that Trent should be in the squad if not the team. It's just some Waistcoat expert who has no idea.
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Southgate is a fad manager. Useless basically.

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comment by Szoboss (U6997)

posted on 6/4/21

I have mixed feeling about Southgate; I think he was seen as a progressive manager simply because he's relatively young, liked to promote young players and isn't wed to a certain system. I don't think he's progressive in his style of play though. And I also think he's been fortunate.

WC18 we needed an injury time winner to beat Tunisia in a ludicrously easy group and pens to beat Columbia. We then played well against Sweden before being frankly outplayed by Croatia.

You can only beat who is in front of you but if you look at the 90 mins score we beat Sweden, Tunisia and Panama; drew with Columbia and lost to Belgium and Croatia. Is that a set of result to dine out on? Not imo.

For balance the Nations League wins against Spain and Croatia were impressive (albeit we lost pretty meekly to Holland).

Most importantly for TAA though, I don't think Southgate is a particularly attacking manager. He doesn't like to take a risk to score a goal. I have little doubt that if England had a manager like Pep or Klopp, he'd play every match. But that's not who Southgate is. It's not being talked about right now because he's injured but I wouldn't put money on Grealish making the squad either.

TAA wouldn't be the first talent not to trusted by an England manager for fear of what they don't have as opposed to appreciation of what they do, he won't be the last either. But for me, to have a talent like TAA and not want to integrate him is absolutely nuts.

posted on 6/4/21

I must admit some of the attacking patterns against poland were very good.

posted on 6/4/21

Seen it before in qualifiers

comment by Szoboss (U6997)

posted on 6/4/21

comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
I must admit some of the attacking patterns against poland were very good.
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I only watched the second half but that looked fairly pedestrian to me. The commentators did seem to think we fully deserved the HT lead though so I'm assuming the first half was better.

posted on 6/4/21

Not sure if there's an official source yet but Varane is supposedly out with Covid

posted on 6/4/21

comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 7 minutes ago
Not sure if there's an official source yet but Varane is supposedly out with Covid
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On skysports too

posted on 6/4/21

comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 6 minutes ago
Not sure if there's an official source yet but Varane is supposedly out with Covid
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It's happening boys!!!

I would love it if Porto did a number on Chelsea.

posted on 6/4/21

comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 3 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 13 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted about 3 hours ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 5 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 12 minutes ago
Not sure why people have such a low opinion of agents, they're just recruitment consultants.

If you want access to the best people for the job then you may well have to pay for it, or you can save that money and get someone not as good.

Agents will get the best deal for the player and quite often for the selling club too. On top of that they will have a big say in the buyer getting what they want also, which is the player and his skills.

It's not fluke that we spend so much on agent fees but regularly secure good players for Klopp.
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Aren’t you in recruitment?
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Haha yes I am and if people want to spend their money on adverts which MIGHT get them the right person they are welcome to otherwise I will be charging 10% to 20% of their salary.

Happy to accept day rates on consultants.

Tell your friends.
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From my experience you nearly always get poor quality when you recruit through an agency. Not really comparable to football of course as you know how the person performs before you go after him. The agency is simply there to get the player and therefore themselves the most money.
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Why are you recruiting poor quality people?

If you would like help putting together a more comprehensive interview process let me know.
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That's the thing, my company doesn't interview people as they pay the recruitment agency to do that.

posted on 6/4/21

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posted on 6/4/21

comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 3 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 13 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted about 3 hours ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 5 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 12 minutes ago
Not sure why people have such a low opinion of agents, they're just recruitment consultants.

If you want access to the best people for the job then you may well have to pay for it, or you can save that money and get someone not as good.

Agents will get the best deal for the player and quite often for the selling club too. On top of that they will have a big say in the buyer getting what they want also, which is the player and his skills.

It's not fluke that we spend so much on agent fees but regularly secure good players for Klopp.
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Aren’t you in recruitment?
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Haha yes I am and if people want to spend their money on adverts which MIGHT get them the right person they are welcome to otherwise I will be charging 10% to 20% of their salary.

Happy to accept day rates on consultants.

Tell your friends.
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From my experience you nearly always get poor quality when you recruit through an agency. Not really comparable to football of course as you know how the person performs before you go after him. The agency is simply there to get the player and therefore themselves the most money.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Why are you recruiting poor quality people?

If you would like help putting together a more comprehensive interview process let me know.
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That's the thing, my company doesn't interview people as they pay the recruitment agency to do that.
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Really? That is NOT a good system.

posted on 6/4/21

comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted about a minute ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 3 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 13 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted about 3 hours ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 5 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 12 minutes ago
Not sure why people have such a low opinion of agents, they're just recruitment consultants.

If you want access to the best people for the job then you may well have to pay for it, or you can save that money and get someone not as good.

Agents will get the best deal for the player and quite often for the selling club too. On top of that they will have a big say in the buyer getting what they want also, which is the player and his skills.

It's not fluke that we spend so much on agent fees but regularly secure good players for Klopp.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Aren’t you in recruitment?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Haha yes I am and if people want to spend their money on adverts which MIGHT get them the right person they are welcome to otherwise I will be charging 10% to 20% of their salary.

Happy to accept day rates on consultants.

Tell your friends.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
From my experience you nearly always get poor quality when you recruit through an agency. Not really comparable to football of course as you know how the person performs before you go after him. The agency is simply there to get the player and therefore themselves the most money.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Why are you recruiting poor quality people?

If you would like help putting together a more comprehensive interview process let me know.
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That's the thing, my company doesn't interview people as they pay the recruitment agency to do that.
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Seriously? So you get whoever the recruitment company deem to be ok after they interview them? I guess it depends on what the work is, but that sounds absolutely insane to me.
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Yes, it's ridiculous. They send a list with CV's and recommend the best people based on their interview.

posted on 6/4/21

comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 3 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 13 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted about 3 hours ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 5 hours, 29 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted 12 minutes ago
Not sure why people have such a low opinion of agents, they're just recruitment consultants.

If you want access to the best people for the job then you may well have to pay for it, or you can save that money and get someone not as good.

Agents will get the best deal for the player and quite often for the selling club too. On top of that they will have a big say in the buyer getting what they want also, which is the player and his skills.

It's not fluke that we spend so much on agent fees but regularly secure good players for Klopp.
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Aren’t you in recruitment?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Haha yes I am and if people want to spend their money on adverts which MIGHT get them the right person they are welcome to otherwise I will be charging 10% to 20% of their salary.

Happy to accept day rates on consultants.

Tell your friends.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
From my experience you nearly always get poor quality when you recruit through an agency. Not really comparable to football of course as you know how the person performs before you go after him. The agency is simply there to get the player and therefore themselves the most money.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Why are you recruiting poor quality people?

If you would like help putting together a more comprehensive interview process let me know.
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That's the thing, my company doesn't interview people as they pay the recruitment agency to do that.
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Really? That is NOT a good system.
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Completely agree.

posted on 6/4/21

You'd be better of hiring an internal recruiter and that way you only pay for candidates that are successful. Put in a rebate system too.

posted on 6/4/21

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posted on 6/4/21

Although to be fair I find the whole interview thing useless. You essentially hire the person who's great at talking a good game, whereas somebody a bit more introverted or nervous at interviews could be the better candidate.

posted on 6/4/21

comment by Robbing Cromwell - agent of the hierarchy. (U6374)
posted about a minute ago
You'd be better of hiring an internal recruiter and that way you only pay for candidates that are successful. Put in a rebate system too.
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Yes they're looking at something similar. Would save them a fortune too.

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