or to join or start a new Discussion

Articles/all comments
These 210744 comments are related to an article called:

LFC Tranny Thread

Page 7328 of 8430

posted on 29/8/23

We are stacked up front which is why I was saying all off season that if we get money for Salah we can use it to invest in the CDM, LCB and RW that we need.

Similar to what we did after Coutinho.

Too late now of course.

posted on 29/8/23

Weird argument this, we all know Salah has a unique skillset in the team, and we all know he has no ready replacment.

If Salah leaves that will probably mean a tweak in the system, and I really don't think it's unreasonable to predict that we place the goal burden on the £70mn striker we bought last year.

posted on 29/8/23

We're already moving towards that tbh

posted on 29/8/23

What are we gonna do when Salah is too old, seeing as we can never hope to replace his goals or spread them across the team?

posted on 29/8/23

comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted less than a minute ago
What are we gonna do when Salah is too old, seeing as we can never hope to replace his goals or spread them across the team?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Relegation beckons.

posted on 29/8/23

FWIW although Salah scores a bunch I don't think we're anywhere near as reliant on him as a team as we were Suarez or Torres.

posted on 29/8/23

We aren't bearing in mind he takes pens too. Don't think Torres and Suarez did as we had Gerrard?

posted on 29/8/23

comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 5 minutes ago
What are we gonna do when Salah is too old, seeing as we can never hope to replace his goals or spread them across the team?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We can replace his goals. We would need to sign a player near his level and improve in other areas of the team. I was more talking about selling Salah and hypothetically replacing him with Diaby level.

I mean Fred above states sell Salah and buy a CB, DM and a RW with the money. Ignoring the fact that we've been trying to sign those players anyway without selling Salah, it would have to be some business to get those three players in and keep the same output up, for the £100m(he was going even lower weeks back) Fred has been touting Salah for.

posted on 29/8/23

comment by InBefore (U20589)
posted 8 minutes ago
We aren't bearing in mind he takes pens too. Don't think Torres and Suarez did as we had Gerrard?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Only 5 of his 30 goals last term came from the penalty spot tbf.

posted on 29/8/23

comment by There'sOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 5 minutes ago
What are we gonna do when Salah is too old, seeing as we can never hope to replace his goals or spread them across the team?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We can replace his goals. We would need to sign a player near his level and improve in other areas of the team. I was more talking about selling Salah and hypothetically replacing him with Diaby level.

I mean Fred above states sell Salah and buy a CB, DM and a RW with the money. Ignoring the fact that we've been trying to sign those players anyway without selling Salah, it would have to be some business to get those three players in and keep the same output up, for the £100m(he was going even lower weeks back) Fred has been touting Salah for.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Oh, ok. That makes sense tbh.

posted on 29/8/23

comment by Michael Edwards 7-0 FC {Proud owner of the 5 0... (U2720)
posted 28 minutes ago
We're already moving towards that tbh
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This. He has become more of a creator now. This is what Pep Ljinders wanted. Less running and more creating with the younger forwards chipping in with goals. He will still bag goals but in this formation he needs a 9 and not a false 9.

posted on 29/8/23

comment by There'sOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
What's the point of having Salah if we can score the same amount of goals regardless? Honestly some people shouldn't talk about football.

The reason Salah scores loads of goals is not because he's gets loads created for him that others would also get, which isn't true as they'd have to be as good as Salah at getting them, it's because he's excellent at getting into positions for them to create for them using his ability to get into those positions, intelligence, pace etc. and then finishing ability to actually finish them off.

I remember people saying when Suarez left we'd spread the goals over the rest of the team(I may have been one of them. As it happened Sturridge got injured, the replacements were crap and we played a 19 year old up front on his own, who finished top goalscorer on something like 11 goals, then left in the summer.

Top forwards get you goals because they're top forwards. If you've lesser quality players you score less goals. I mean it goes without saying surely?

Of course there are anomalies as there are in everything but that doesn't mean it's the norm, obviously.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Think that's a bit of a silly comparison though given after Suarez left our forward options were Sturridge, Lambert, Balotelli and Borini .

Sturridge was the only guy you'd ever back to score 10+ out of those whereas I'd say all of Diaz, Nunez, Jota and Gakpo will do that, and that's not taking into account Salah's replacement as well.

I also reckon Mac and Dom will chip in with goals more regularly than our previous midfielders did.

posted on 29/8/23

comment by (K̇ash) - Liverpool 7-0 Man U (U1108)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Michael Edwards 7-0 FC {Proud owner of the 5 0... (U2720)
posted 28 minutes ago
We're already moving towards that tbh
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This. He has become more of a creator now. This is what Pep Ljinders wanted. Less running and more creating with the younger forwards chipping in with goals. He will still bag goals but in this formation he needs a 9 and not a false 9.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If I can ask how do you know that this is what Pep wanted?

Also, I wouldn't say Salah is more of a creator now than he was in the past. He is as creative as he's always been. It's not like he's suddenly assisting more goals than usual.

Fact is this and last season he's just not finishing at the same level as previous years IMO, but he's so good that he's still our best. No need to make excuses for him and start claiming he's now a creator.

posted on 29/8/23

comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by There'sOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
What's the point of having Salah if we can score the same amount of goals regardless? Honestly some people shouldn't talk about football.

The reason Salah scores loads of goals is not because he's gets loads created for him that others would also get, which isn't true as they'd have to be as good as Salah at getting them, it's because he's excellent at getting into positions for them to create for them using his ability to get into those positions, intelligence, pace etc. and then finishing ability to actually finish them off.

I remember people saying when Suarez left we'd spread the goals over the rest of the team(I may have been one of them. As it happened Sturridge got injured, the replacements were crap and we played a 19 year old up front on his own, who finished top goalscorer on something like 11 goals, then left in the summer.

Top forwards get you goals because they're top forwards. If you've lesser quality players you score less goals. I mean it goes without saying surely?

Of course there are anomalies as there are in everything but that doesn't mean it's the norm, obviously.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Think that's a bit of a silly comparison though given after Suarez left our forward options were Sturridge, Lambert, Balotelli and Borini.

Sturridge was the only guy you'd ever back to score 10+ out of those whereas I'd say all of Diaz, Nunez, Jota and Gakpo will do that, and that's not taking into account Salah's replacement as well.

I also reckon Mac and Dom will chip in with goals more regularly than our previous midfielders did.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Don't forget Sterling who was our top scorer IIRC. It would be silly if that's what I said but I wasn't comparing those players, I specially stated if you have worse quality replacements you're more likely to score less goals, which above players obviously showed.

The context of the discussion I was replying to was not replacing Salah. It was getting goals from the players we already have to replace his goals.

"Also you don’t need to replace Salah with another player with his output, we just need more from the other forwards."

This could happen of course, it has happened in the past but more likely it doesn't happen. I mean the other players should be scoring more anyhow, specifically Diaz and Nunez, for me but they haven't yet. That's with Salah.

posted on 29/8/23

comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) - Liverpool 7-0 Man U (U1108)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Michael Edwards 7-0 FC {Proud owner of the 5 0... (U2720)
posted 28 minutes ago
We're already moving towards that tbh
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This. He has become more of a creator now. This is what Pep Ljinders wanted. Less running and more creating with the younger forwards chipping in with goals. He will still bag goals but in this formation he needs a 9 and not a false 9.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If I can ask how do you know that this is what Pep wanted?

Also, I wouldn't say Salah is more of a creator now than he was in the past. He is as creative as he's always been. It's not like he's suddenly assisting more goals than usual.

Fact is this and last season he's just not finishing at the same level as previous years IMO, but he's so good that he's still our best. No need to make excuses for him and start claiming he's now a creator.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'd say there's truth in Salah's role changing although no idea why a coach is changing the system when Klopp decides the system.

We obviously bought in a number 9 with this in mind as we hadn't played with one for years. Salah was much wider last season and it certainly felt like he wasn't getting the same chances in the box he did in previous seasons, although the stats may suggest differently.

posted on 29/8/23

Salah's role changed about 4 to 5 times last season.

He had a monstrous run when we inverted

posted on 29/8/23

comment by Michael Edwards 7-0 FC {Proud owner of the 5 0... (U2720)
posted 11 seconds ago
Salah's role changed about 4 to 5 times last season.

He had a monstrous run when we inverted
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think we kind of went back to how the front three used to operate when Gakpo came in, with Salah getting more centrally and Gakpo operating as a false nine, IIRC the inverted role came back, a bit after that change.

Although towards the end of the season he was starting wider again. With the inverted role it would make sense that Salah is wider, even more so with a dedicated number 9, otherwise the whole right side of the pitch is missing.

posted on 29/8/23

Yeah until Gakpo came in it really looked like we didn't have a clue.

We tried Salah extremely wide.
Then we pushed Elliott out wide to get Salah more goal scoring opportunities.
Salah scored that hattrick against Rangers and then found himself playing as a striker.
Then we went back to basics with Gakpo
Then we inverted

posted on 29/8/23

Yeah let's hope we can settle on something as that will mean it's working. Overall so far happy with the points this season but certainly hasn't looked like it's working yet. Nunez could make the difference, as well as Bajcetic coming in. Obviously signing another top midfielder would be great, although that's looking increasingly unlikely.

comment by Neo (U9135)

posted on 29/8/23

It's funny there are more Doncaster rovers fans on here than there are Everton fans. Predicting an upset tonight though with Everton to go through.

posted on 29/8/23



The magic of the cup

posted on 29/8/23

comment by There'sOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 58 minutes ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by (K̇ash) - Liverpool 7-0 Man U (U1108)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Michael Edwards 7-0 FC {Proud owner of the 5 0... (U2720)
posted 28 minutes ago
We're already moving towards that tbh
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This. He has become more of a creator now. This is what Pep Ljinders wanted. Less running and more creating with the younger forwards chipping in with goals. He will still bag goals but in this formation he needs a 9 and not a false 9.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If I can ask how do you know that this is what Pep wanted?

Also, I wouldn't say Salah is more of a creator now than he was in the past. He is as creative as he's always been. It's not like he's suddenly assisting more goals than usual.

Fact is this and last season he's just not finishing at the same level as previous years IMO, but he's so good that he's still our best. No need to make excuses for him and start claiming he's now a creator.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'd say there's truth in Salah's role changing although no idea why a coach is changing the system when Klopp decides the system.

We obviously bought in a number 9 with this in mind as we hadn't played with one for years. Salah was much wider last season and it certainly felt like he wasn't getting the same chances in the box he did in previous seasons, although the stats may suggest differently.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I would agree with this if Salah was getting less opportunities to score. I haven't checked the stats but it honestly looks like he's still getting the chances, he's just missing more of them. If he's getting less chances I'd theorise it's probably mostly down to himself as he seemingly can't really beat defenders as easily and as often as he used to.

posted on 29/8/23

comment by Michael Edwards 7-0 FC {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Naby8 (U6997)
posted 56 seconds ago
comment by Michael Edwards 7-0 FC {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 19 seconds ago
Nah if he really wants to move Klopp sanctions it. We might tell him he'll need to stay until Jan, like we did with Coutinho but Klopp doesn't hold players back, who don't want to be here.

There's also that little thing of us getting the right fee
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Coutinho was kicking up a stink - the back ‘injury’ which never was. If Salah were prepared to effectively down tools then maybe but he just doesn’t seem the type
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Coutinho still came back onto the pitch and showed out of this world form before moving in Jan.

We've been here before with thinking players "aren't that type"
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Good god man, your username is just that. You do know you’re not the actual ME don’t you? You’ve virtually sold him and driven him to the airport

posted on 29/8/23

Speaking of right wingers, Chelsea have agreed a deal with Sportings Marcus Edwards

posted on 29/8/23

comment by (K̇ash) - Liverpool 7-0 Man U (U1108)
posted about 2 hours ago
Speaking of right wingers, Chelsea have agreed a deal with Sportings Marcus Edwards
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Page 7328 of 8430

Sign in if you want to comment